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So .... Who's your QB in 2014 ?! - [edit] Mallett?

infantrycak said:
So only a retread would have been a good choice?
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No, only if they have won multiple Super Bowls.

It's a wonder any coach gets a first time gig in the NFL, after everyone retires there's no one with NFL head coaching experience left.
 
In 2014, I wouldn't be surprised to see Matt Cassel show up, via a trade or in free agency if he is released by the Vikes. In the future, I'm not discounting Brett Hundley entering the draft and climbing up boards. He would have the best metrics of any of the QBs, plus upside. I see a lot of Cam Newton in Hundley.
 
Kyle Orton was mentioned earlier. I'd have no problem with that as a stop gap QB. Dallas will have to cut him to help fix their cap situation.

Pats fans are ready to trade Mallet to us for a 3rd. Don't know enough about him to like him or not.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Can anyone post a more credible critique of Bridgewaters "piss poor mechanics" because apart from his ability to diagnose a defense, his footwork, quick release, velocity, pocket awareness and accuracy are way better than any QB in college football not named Winston. Do people really believe an exaggerated over the top release like Hundley is ideal all of the time? I prefer a guy who can make multiple angle deliveries.
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Thank you! I was wondering where the other sane people on this board were to back me up on that...
 
Lucky said:
In 2014, I wouldn't be surprised to see Matt Cassel show up, via a trade or in free agency if he is released by the Vikes. In the future, I'm not discounting Brett Hundley entering the draft and climbing up boards. He would have the best metrics of any of the QBs, plus upside. I see a lot of Cam Newton in Hundley.
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Not impressed. Watched him yesterday and he's another new breed who would rather make a play with his feet than his arm. Throwing to wide open receivers on a post doesn't show me much, he's not reading the defense, looking off DBs or adjusting the play at the line.

Who was the last "running" QB to win a Super Bowl, Steve Young? Just saying.

Hundley would be better served by going back to school and learning the science of quarterbacking, his physical ability alone will not get it done at the next level. Reminds me a lot of VY when he was in school.

That Bruin LB #20 was the most impressive player on the fueld yesterday IMO.
 
Im I'm looking forward to watching Bortles and see what the hype is about. Petty to me is a system guy I think anyone who runs the Briles/Sumlin offense will have big numbers.
 
Cassel, Kyle orton. Really? And then what? Hope we get a low pick next year to draft a qb for the future? Lets just rename the Texans to the Browns of the south.
 
I look forward to Teddy being drafted and fitting the bill because some of the ideas you guys have should be illegal. 2015 QBs, Cutler, Cassel, Keenum, guys that just had ACLs.. WTF is wrong with y'all?

And the things people will say to downplay Teddy. Incredible.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Im I'm looking forward to watching Bortles and see what the hype is about. Petty to me is a system guy I think anyone who runs the Briles/Sumlin offense will have big numbers.
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Have you seen Petty play? Superb arm strength, really good mobility, appears to be a smart kid, great tough and accuracy.

Petty would be my #1 QB in this yrs draft.
 
I am just chucking this one out there so lets not go crazy for the suggestion, but the rams are due to pay Sam Bradford $14 million next year but receive no cap hit if they cut him.

They have the chance to draft Johnny Football for a significant cap saving.

Should the Texans take a look at Bradford if he becomes available?
 
welsh texan said:
I am just chucking this one out there so lets not go crazy for the suggestion, but the rams are due to pay Sam Bradford $14 million next year but receive no cap hit if they cut him.

They have the chance to draft Johnny Football for a significant cap saving.

Should the Texans take a look at Bradford if he becomes available?
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Only if he's a short term solution while we're waiting for the #1 pick to develop.
 
steelbtexan said:
Have you seen Petty play? Superb arm strength, really good mobility, appears to be a smart kid, great tough and accuracy.

Petty would be my #1 QB in this yrs draft.
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I think he has skills obviously, and Briles has said he's the best QB he's ever coached which carries a lot of weight with me since I respect Briles as a coach immensely. With all that said, I value a college QB who is already familiar with pro style offenses, is more polished and ready to start right away, spread QBs are getting eaten for lunch in the NFL.
 
JM is the CLEAR CUT best qb coming out of this draft and its not even close..heck, he might be just as good a prospect as Andrew Luck was and it seems NOBODY sees it. Why is this?? This is the most underrated guy coming out this year. The only reason he isn't the BEST prospect since...nobody, is because he isn't 6'4..THATS IT. You read that right. That is the only true reason. If he was 6'4 doing the things he does he would be an Andrew Luck/Michael Vick best of both worlds combination and everybody in the sports world would peg him as the next surefire HOF qb. The thing is he still is, except he's not 6'4.
Now, I understand he does have his cons like any other qb but they are also correctable.

Cons: 1)Runs too much...that's adjustable.
2)Holds ball with one hand while scrambling and running...thats adjustable
3) Off field issues....umm not really, im sure you have done worse.
4)...anything else?

Ok now the pros.
Pros:
1) Extremely high football IQ
2) Very passionate about the game, True leader
3)Clutch and a Winner
4) Strong arm, accurate passer,pocket presence when there is protection, Field Vision
5) Masterful footwork, scrambling ability only few have, extremely shifty and quick, human highlight
6) Best stats ive ever seen for a two year starter in college.
7) IT
8) extremely underrated

The only thing that has everyone blind and worried is his height. His frame isn't even fully matured yet. How old is he like 20!? Hes going to get alot thicker the next few years. He is only going to get better. Much much better. Dont compare him to Young, Vick, Tebow, etc. This guy is more like Russell Wilson on steroids (excuse the saying) . Bill O Brien if you see this, please make the right choice. Johnny Football is the TRUTH.

And just so its out there, Im not even an A&M fan. I didn't even watch the bowl game last night. He'll I was on the Bridgewater bandwagon before I did some research on this drafts qb's this past week.
Well fast forward to today Jan1 2014 and I see the light.

Johnny Manziel is the CLEAR CUT #1 OVERALL DRAFT CHOICE IN THIS YEARS DRAFT.


I posted this reply on another message board so I'm just going to be lazy n paste it here.
 
Could you post all the subsequent inflammatory replies that you received on that site and save everyone a bunch of time.
 
TheIronDuke said:
After seeing Blake Bortles' girlfriend, I think he is the QB for us.
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This is pretty much what this board should stick to. The combined football IQ of 90% of the frequenters of TT would make them prime candidates to make a major football decision based on how the players girlfriend looked.
 
kingtexan said:
This is pretty much what this board should stick to. The combined football IQ of 90% of the frequenters of TT would make them prime candidates to make a major football decision based on how the players girlfriend looked.
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Probably be about as right as your stellar analysis.
 
kingtexan said:
This is pretty much what this board should stick to. The combined football IQ of 90% of the frequenters of TT would make them prime candidates to make a major football decision based on how the players girlfriend looked.
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Aside from this GF nonsense, do you dislike Bortles? If so please explain why?
 
welsh texan said:
I am just chucking this one out there so lets not go crazy for the suggestion, but the rams are due to pay Sam Bradford $14 million next year but receive no cap hit if they cut him.

They have the chance to draft Johnny Football for a significant cap saving.

Should the Texans take a look at Bradford if he becomes available?
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I was thinking about Bradford this morning. Would be a good 2 year band aid.
 
Uncle Rico said:
I think he has skills obviously, and Briles has said he's the best QB he's ever coached which carries a lot of weight with me since I respect Briles as a coach immensely. With all that said, I value a college QB who is already familiar with pro style offenses, is more polished and ready to start right away, spread QBs are getting eaten for lunch in the NFL.
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Fair enough
 
The only thing Bridgewater has over Manziel is height. If Manziel had Bridgewater's height, no one would be talking about the glove man. I would take Manziel over TB with the first overall pick.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
The only thing Bridgewater has over Manziel is height. If Manziel had Bridgewater's height, no one would be talking about the glove man. I would take Manziel over TB with the first overall pick.
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Manziel is my favorite player in college football, but Bridgewater has a quicker release and better pocket presence.


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FirstTexansFan said:
But he said he wasn't.. I on the other hand... Bleed Maroon, and no way do I use my 1.1 for JFF... Later in the round maybe.
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We throw this thought process around a lot on grabbing a player later in the round, but if this is the QB you believe in to take your team to the next level, why do you need to wait? If a player is a wasted pick at 1 or 15, they are still wasted.

I believe JM is the best college player at any position, but does that translate into a great NFL player, not always. I would embrace JM at #1 if after evaluations on something outside of height he still looks like the best QB.
 
BigBull said:
Manziel is my favorite player in college football, but Bridgewater has a quicker release and better pocket presence.


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No way. Maybe he has a little bit better pocket presence but thats not to say manziel doesn't have any. Besides Bridgewater had an extra year to improve. Manziel has pocket presence as well and very good at that. Bridgewater doesn't have the playmaking manziel has. As far as release, I think Bridgewater is slower tbh
 
kingtexan said:
This is pretty much what this board should stick to. The combined football IQ of 90% of the frequenters of TT would make them prime candidates to make a major football decision based on how the players girlfriend looked.
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Or maybe you can look up two posts from that one which would help you wrap your mind around the fact that I was obviously joking.
 
guichows6 said:
No way. Maybe he has a little bit better pocket presence but thats not to say manziel doesn't have any. Besides Bridgewater had an extra year to improve. Manziel has pocket presence as well and very good at that. Bridgewater doesn't have the playmaking manziel has. As far as release, I think Bridgewater is slower tbh
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It's not even close Teddy is far and away quicker with his release and has better pocket presence by a lot. I also add a more polished passer. Of corse all of this is just my opinion. JFF is the most exciting player in college football, but that doesn't mean he's the best qb as far as skill set.


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guichows6 said:
JM is the CLEAR CUT best qb coming out of this draft and its not even close..

.....Johnny Manziel is the CLEAR CUT #1 OVERALL DRAFT CHOICE IN THIS YEARS DRAFT.


I posted this reply on another message board so I'm just going to be lazy n paste it here.
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guichows6 said:
No.

Its a good article but as the end says, Manziel is the only other qb that can challenge Bridgewater for best qb in this draft.
Either way these two qb's will be playing against each other for a long time. Jax will take either of those two unless the browns trade with the redskins and scoop em up first. We need to make the right choice.
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That's fair. I just want to temper the JFF is head and shoulders the best QB talk because it is not accurate. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
 
The AFC South could very possibly turn out exciting to watch. Luck, Teddy with Texans, and Johnny with the Jags. Sorry Manziel fans, he's good but I don't see the Texans skipping on Bridgewater and rightfully so.

Edit: I forgot about Cleveland and Minny. I'm still hungover.
 
TexansFight said:
Blake Bortles looks terrible in the Fiesta Bowl against a mediocre defense. DO NOT WANT.
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All I know is I've watched him twice now and I think he is really raw. The other game was the UofH game that he didn't even throw a td in the entire game. I can see why some like him though with his size and his scrambling ability.


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Norg said:
Just a Rumor that BOB said he has his eye on Ryan mallet already cuz he does not feel any QB's In the 1st round in this draft or does not feel any are worth a #1 pick
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I wouldn't mind seeing Big Tex in a Texans uniform. Although I think you would still have to draft a qb by the 3rd or 4th round to compete with him.


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I think Bridgewater is the clearcut #1 at this point. He isn't an elite prospect like Luck or Manning coming out, but I would say he's in the Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, David Carr range (yes I know two of them were busts, it has nothing to do with the scouting process). He's smart, reads defenses extremely well, uses all of his receivers and goes through his progressions, has a strong arm, great footwork, quick release, great accuracy in the pocket or on the move, ran a pro style offense, and has great poise under pressure (among the best blitz beaters in college), great pocket presence and a high character type. There just isn't much to knock the guy for except size.

After him by a good margin is Derek Carr. He's the elite physical prospect in this class with the big gun, size and athleticism. Lazer Rocket Arm, good accuracy, experienced, makes good pre-snap adjustments after reading the defense, good football IQ and is a student of the game. Mostly played out of the shotgun and struggles when pressured.

I wouldn't look at the other QB prospects in the top 10. Manziel has the character of a turd, a wimpy arm, and his style of football is going to get him broken in half by the end of his first NFL game.
 
McShay of ESPN projects the Texans taking Bridgewater at 1, Bortles going to Jax at 3, and Manziel to Cleve at 4.

Obviously, Bortles' stock is rising (quickly).
 
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