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All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

Mr teX said:
But this is the case for every single qb in the league not named brady, manning, rothlisberger, rodgers and brees. I could take your post scratch out schaub's name and put matt ryan, joe flacco or any 25 other starting qbs in the nfl not named the above mentionedtop 5 and it would be just as valid. Hell up until today matt ryan was thought to be this huge choke artist in atl.. U gotta put these things into perspective man.
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I agree with you on Matt Ryan.

I also agree with whom you're responding with when he said - MS needs more weapons. I've been ripping him hard the last few hours. Now, I'm accepting that he is here for the next few years. Given this, we MUST put weapons around him. #2 WR, TEs, #2 RB, FBs, shore up the o-line etc etc.

James Casey really let down MS in the opening minutes....and that just can't happen. MS has to really work on his decision making and read the defense better. If that bo-legged freak in Dallas can run a bit.....MS should be able to here and there.....run and slide:pissed:
 
Mr teX said:
But this is the case for every single qb in the league not named brady, manning, rothlisberger, rodgers and brees. I could take your post scratch out schaub's name and put matt ryan, joe flacco or any 25 other starting qbs in the nfl not named the above mentionedtop 5 and it would be just as valid. Hell up until today matt ryan was thought to be this huge choke artist in atl.. U gotta put these things into perspective man.
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No one in their right mind has asked matt schaub to be rodgers,brees,big ben,eli,or any of the top guys,but what people are pissing and moaning about is his negative plays under pressure. Any time he gets any pressure,its a negative play or no play. As I've said earlier,qbs earn their money in the red zone and 3rd down. Matt has been garbage all year and when the team is setup like it is,the qb has to be effecient. No one expects him to escape the pocket and make aaron rodgers type throws,but why can't he climb and slide in the pocket to buy time. When his 1st read is gone,that play is over. He can't reset his feet and get to another wr option. So as I said,if kubes is gonna ride the schaub train,the wr better be like a young andre,the te better be like a young gates,the slot needs to be welker like,the ol needs to be like sf,and the defense needs to be like pittsburgh of 4 yrs ago. If you can't achieve all of that,you have no chance of smelling a superbowl with matt schaub.
 
leebigeztx said:
No one in their right mind has asked matt schaub to be rodgers,brees,big ben,eli,or any of the top guys,but what people are pissing and moaning about is his negative plays under pressure. Any time he gets any pressure,its a negative play or no play. As I've said earlier,qbs earn their money in the red zone and 3rd down. Matt has been garbage all year and when the team is setup like it is,the qb has to be effecient. No one expects him to escape the pocket and make aaron rodgers type throws,but why can't he climb and slide in the pocket to buy time. When his 1st read is gone,that play is over. He can't reset his feet and get to another wr option. So as I said,if kubes is gonna ride the schaub train,the wr better be like a young andre,the te better be like a young gates,the slot needs to be welker like,the ol needs to be like sf,and the defense needs to be like pittsburgh of 4 yrs ago. If you can't achieve all of that,you have no chance of smelling a superbowl with matt schaub.
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1st of all, getting outside of the pocket, escaping pressure and throwing the ball away isn't considered a " negative" play...this is what schaub does 90% of the time and its what most non running qb's do at least 80% of the time...if anything its a positive that they avoided taking the sack for negative yards.

2nd of all, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben and Eli is exactly who you guys are asking him to be though b/c those guys along with a few others are the only ones who consistently make positive, downfield plays when the pressure is on. That is y those guys are considered who they are.......elite. This is fine if this is what u want; hell i want it too...i'm just smart enough to know that our team doesnt have an elite qb...so i dont expect him to do elite things. I'm also smart enough to know that this team isnt built this way and that coming across elite qb's is about as hit or miss as schaub's deep ball.

You cant count Wilson, Kap and RG3 just yet b/c they havent been in the league long enough yet.
 
Mr teX said:
1st of all, getting outside of the pocket, escaping pressure and throwing the ball away isn't considered a " negative" play...this is what schaub does 90% of the time and its what most non running qb's do at least 80% of the time...if anything its a positive that they avoided taking the sack for negative yards. .
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Only problem is it was on 3rd down. So even if he took a sack we were still punting. Should have looked up and saw at least 3 receivers were open
 
AndyWin said:
Exactly, all these Schaub loyalists are throwing stats out from today's game. How about we get the ball DOWN field earlier in the game instead of punting every series then being down 3+ scores? Trash points and stats are such a mind fogger, it's amazing.
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He threw a TD pass on his first throw of the game. Not his fault Casey doesn't catch the most catchable ball I've seen in a play-off game.

As far as throwing the ball downfield, I've got to look at the all-22 before I blame Schaub. I still don't believe he needs to force the ball down field.

I'm not a Schaub loyalist, I've been saying he sucked for a long time. I'm just not going to dump on him because all of a sudden he's not Ben Roethlisberger. He is who he is & just like everyone else, he needs to be put in a position to succeed. He's better with a spread, hurry up offense. Why don't we see a spread hurry up offense when we know he has to have a big game?

He's made some big throws this season, when the bootleg worked & we had receivers running wide open down field....... I didn't even see any of that yesterday.

Asking Matt to stiff arm defensive ends (which he did) to get outside the pocket & still make a play is asinine & that's what we did yesterday. Don't blame Matt, blame the offensive guru who called that crap.

Until I see Kubiak putt Matt in a position to succeed & then Matt fails, I'm not going to blame him for not being able to do what we know he can't do.

End of the first half, that's what Matt needs to be successful, we went there he was successful, my biggest question now, is why we didn't do more of it?

Keep in mind, everyone said Matt has to have a big game to have a chance. If Matt has to have a big game, if Matt has to have his biggest game of the season, why is he not put in position to do what he does best?
 
Mr teX said:
Bottom line is between barwin, mercilus and reed we got very little production and u cant have that out of those positions in wades defense....
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That's because the middle of our defense is horrible. We get ZERO PUSH UP THE MIDDLE. Between the hacks we have splitting time at ILB and Cody we are so weak up the middle it's pathetic. When the QB can step up in the pocket it makes it harder for the outside guys to get to him.

With the year Watt and Smith had our middle guys should of bad career years getti g to the QB. Just shows how bad they are.

And this talk about Mario is a joke. His biggest problem is that he wants to be a speed rusher. He just wants to run around the outside doing a big loop. Most of his sacks came because pressure up the middle forced the QB to step back into his path. He has no moves to get to the QB even after all these years. He would have done no better in barwins place this year than Barwin did.

This is why people shouldn't look just at stats. Do your homework. Go to the Bills message board and see what they think of Mario.
 
leebigeztx said:
No one in their right mind has asked matt schaub to be rodgers,brees,big ben,eli,or any of the top guys,but what people are pissing and moaning about is his negative plays under pressure. Any time he gets any pressure,its a negative play or no play. As I've said earlier,qbs earn their money in the red zone and 3rd down. Matt has been garbage all year and when the team is setup like it is,the qb has to be effecient. No one expects him to escape the pocket and make aaron rodgers type throws,but why can't he climb and slide in the pocket to buy time. When his 1st read is gone,that play is over. He can't reset his feet and get to another wr option. So as I said,if kubes is gonna ride the schaub train,the wr better be like a young andre,the te better be like a young gates,the slot needs to be welker like,the ol needs to be like sf,and the defense needs to be like pittsburgh of 4 yrs ago. If you can't achieve all of that,you have no chance of smelling a superbowl with matt schaub.
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I think we have an issue with so many people arguing so many different things, but there are people saying Matt should be able to get out the pocket & make a play, ala Rogers. & your comment there about resetting his feet..... makes it sound like you are as well.

Matt used to be pretty good stepping up & to the side & delivering strikes while taking hits. Something changed this year.... actually after the Broncos game, maybe because I remember him working the pocket & delivering bombs despite getting his ear torn off.
 
AndyWin said:
Exactly, all these Schaub loyalists are throwing stats out from today's game. How about we get the ball DOWN field earlier in the game instead of punting every series then being down 3+ scores? Trash points and stats are such a mind fogger, it's amazing.
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This ^^^.
 
In a league where there is a cap , the guys who are paid the most have to be able to cover for the lesser paids short comings . Casey dropped a TD and then the next pass ends up in the 1st row . I bet the Texans lead the league in gaining 3 yards on a 3rd and 8 .
 
I've been seeing Schaub supporters throw out 330+ yards with 2 TDs and only 1 INT to defend Schaub.
At the same time, the Schaub detractors have said that stats are meaningless -- especially in garbage time.

Schaub supporters have pointed to the 40+ points our defense has given up to the Patriots both times as being insurmountable
Schaub detractors have blamed the stalling offense for giving the Patriots easy scoring opportunities.


I remember reading a few months ago that yards per attempt by the QB, and opposing yards per attempt (for the defense), were two of the most predictive statistics in the NFL. QB rating and opposing QB rating are of course more correlative with wins, but those have scores built in so the statistics are somewhat circular.

Anyway, since the Patriots game, here is how our team stacks up in yards per attempts:
7.25 Schaub 8.5 Brady (loss)
8.42 Schaub 6.9 Luck (win)
5.56 Schaub 5.8 Ponder (loss)
7.64 Schaub 6.8 Luck (loss)
6.90 Schaub 4.2 Dalton (win)
6.73 Schaub 8.6 Brady (loss)

Before the Pats game Schaub's yards per attempts was 7.3. After it was 7.1

Before the Pats game our defense was giving up 6.3 yards per attempt. After it was 6.8.

Some of Schaubs numbers are padded by garbage time. To me it looks like our defense and offense were never playing well at the same time. When we held the opponents passing game in check (Minn), our offense was awful. When we moved the ball ok, we either committed turnovers or gave up a ton of points on defense.

Thats one other thing these stats don't take into account: Turnovers. Schaub threw a costly INT in this game. He had two horrible picks against Indy as well. YPA only matters if turnovers are roughly equal. When you lose the turnover battle, you have to be extra good. Our offense started giving the ball away at the same time our defense forgot how to make plays on the ball.
 
Mr teX said:
It was the same with the rockets and t-mac with fans In this city. people cried for 3-4 years about how t-mac wasnt doing this or that in the playoffs even though dudes numbers actually went up in those times...the rest of the team just couldn't do much to help him..so morey got him outta here and fans rejoiced in the streets. 3 years of lottery picks, a new coach, numerous failed advances towards other superstars and record setting dwindling attendance numbers later, we finally got that superstar....or so we think anyway. It remains to be seen if he'll be able to take us where we ultimately have been trying to go...his last foray in the playoffs though, he kinda disappeared...fans will never learn. I wonder if they'll turn on him too.
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Don't think you watched the NBA playoffs last year because Harden carried the Thunder to the finals. He held the ball in crunch time in the first three rounds, not Westbrook or Durant. He was breaking down defenses. And it only took the Rockets three years, while they played .500 ball with a relatively young team. They aren't afraid to make changes and are quick to react. It is not fair to compare the Texans and Rockets because the Rockets are much better run while the Texans are okay with the status quo. At least the Rockets tried to get a superstar and finally got one. The Texans didn't even talk to Manning.
 
gtexan02 said:
Thats one other thing these stats don't take into account: Turnovers. Schaub threw a costly INT in this game. He had two horrible picks against Indy as well. YPA only matters if turnovers are roughly equal. When you lose the turnover battle, you have to be extra good. Our offense started giving the ball away at the same time our defense forgot how to make plays on the ball.
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I don't know how, but I forgot his fumble as well.

I made a comment earlier, that Schaub played better than Peyton since Peyton threw 2 INTs & lost a fumble. I was wrong, Schaub threw an Int & lost a fumble, so if he played any better, we're talking about polishing a turd here. Peyton threw 3 TDs to Schaub's 2 so that makes up for the extra Int.
 
I was thinking of making a Matt Schaub "Waterboy" picture where I'd photoshop Matt's head onto Bobby Boucher's body or maybe shop that big water rig he carried around onto Matt. Ok, it was a cheesy thought but I really was thinking that the best place for Matt on this team is distributing "High Quality H2O" instead of fumbles and picks.

That's when this showed up in Google Image Search.

Waterboy_3.jpg


Matt Schaub bears more than a passing resemblance to Bobby Boucher's dad. Now I can't unsee this so I pass the problem on to all of you. Enjoy!
 
My gut tells me the Texans will draft Schuab's replacement in next year's draft. I think next year is Schuab's last year as a Texan. They aren't going to release him since he's all we got right now and he still has a lot of money left on his contract, but after next season the cap hit won't be as bad. For now, I think the Texans will try and improve other positions and hope for the best with Schaub as QB next season.
 
I admit it. I have QB envy. I have trouble looking at any team and not projecting success with their QB on the Texans. Matt Schaub is limited enough that he'll rarely if ever win a game by himself. I know we'll end up with Schaub for 2013 but it's time to start weighing the options for the future.
 
silvrhand said:
You have to ask yourself, are you happy with just having a good season and getting into the playoffs, or do you want to win a superbowl.

Jim Harbaugh has the balls to make those decisions, Kubiak, well not so much, Bellichick cut a guy the day before the superbowl..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...iquan-underwood-eve-super-bowl-004651704.html
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eh..... chances are Harbaugh does not draft Kaepernick if he knew they would get to the NFC Championship game.


After I just typed that, I had to stop & think. When they hired Harbaugh, he looked at Smith & by draft time, he knew Smith couldn't get him to the NFC Championship game. I don't think Harbaugh was wrong as much as Smith played above his ceiling & that's the point isn't it.

1. Harbaugh knows who Alex Smith is.
2. Players play above their ceiling for him.


Forget whatever argument I thought I might have.
 
Fiddler said:
eh..... chances are Harbaugh does not draft Kaepernick if he knew they would get to the NFC Championship game.


After I just typed that, I had to stop & think. When they hired Harbaugh, he looked at Smith & by draft time, he knew Smith couldn't get him to the NFC Championship game. I don't think Harbaugh was wrong as much as Smith played above his ceiling & that's the point isn't it.

1. Harbaugh knows who Alex Smith is.
2. Players play above their ceiling for him.


Forget whatever argument I thought I might have.
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Kaepernick has a ton of talent and he can hurt you in many ways as a 2nd rd pick . He plays behind an OL with three 1st rd picks . Matt Ryan was the 3rd pick in the draft and they gave him a ton of weapons . Its about allocating your capspace .
 
Did you HAVE TO START ANOTHER THREAD!!!!!????? Geeeeezzzzz, there's Schaub bashing going on all over this place!!
 
You sure you didnt read the Q and A thread that Gary had from 2010

And it got bumped today?
 
ckhouston said:
Presser after the game he was asked

"Of all the quarterbacks who have won this weekend, is there any doubt in your mind you belong with them?"

His answer

"Absolutely no doubt in my mind, I belong up there with EVERY ONE of them"

That would include Brady, which would make him putting himself in the elite category.

Have to go to houstontexans.com and watch the video of he and Gary after the game ... comments are at the end.
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This is such BS. If he had said "no I'm not that good" you would be slagging him for that. Plus he didn't say he was elite.
 
infantrycak said:
This is such BS. If he had said "no I'm not that good" you would be slagging him for that.
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And that is the crux of this whole 'argument', which I hesitate to call it as much. It's really not about performance, it's entirely about their impression of what a QB should be like. Honestly, some of these muppets would rather have Philip Rivers because he throws tantrums (like they do) and attempts to blame all around. Philip flippin Rivers :spin:
 
ckhouston said:
I was answering someones question. I didn't start the thread making a big deal out of what he said. Feel free to go through all of my posts and bash everything I say at will .... you don't fool anyone.
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Fool anyone about what? I have essentially stayed out of the Schaub debate.

If the poster who had brought this "elite" claim up I would have quoted him instead and had the same reply.
 
TexanSam said:
I think next year is Schuab's last year as a Texan. They aren't going to release him since he's all we got right now and he still has a lot of money left on his contract, but after next season the cap hit won't be as bad.
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Asbad as if they released Schaub this offseason? No, that would be cap suicide. But, Schaub's contract will still cause over $10 mil in dead money if he is released in the 2014 offseason. Unless Schaub become bionic, this contract will cripple the Texans.
 
On the Matt Schaub show he was asked what made him elite & he spewed out a bunch of stuff. There's a thread talking about that already. Title says something about Matt answers questions, or Matt Schaub show.
 
thunderkyss said:
On the Matt Schaub show he was asked what made him elite & he spewed out a bunch of stuff. There's a thread talking about that already. Title says something about Matt answers questions, or Matt Schaub show.
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Wait...he has a show?!? Thank God I'm not a listener or near.
 
It was on 610am in the morning, probably around 8am

I thought it was funny cuz the reason he gave are some of the reason people dont like him and think he's conservative
 
ckhouston said:
I responded when someone said he had never done that and to prove him wrong.

Matt said after the game he belonged in the same category as Tom Brady.

That to me is saying he is elite comparing himself to arguably the best who has ever played the game.
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Such bullsh!t! I could care less what you might infer or interpret, in your opinion, as to what he said.

The thread title is a lie. Show me where he was quoted, saying that he was "elite".

Again, prove me wrong.
 
ckhouston said:
So, in your little world, if some says "I am exactly like Jesus" ... you have to wait for them to say "I am the son of God" before accepting what they mean?

Ok ...
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You took his words and twisted them into making it seem like he anointed himself as some elite QB in the NFL which he did not. He was asked a question of whether or not if he belonged amongst some of the best QB's in this league or not. He said yes, that he felt that he did belong with them. What the hell else was he supposed to say? No, they're way better then me, and I'm not worthy of any comparisons and slouch in his chair with his head down after that? He said what any rational person would expect him to say when asked that question.

He never once claimed that he was elite as you have tried to put it though. You twisted it to take a dig at Schaub like you do every day.
 
Schaub is kind of like Tony Romo. He's not a BAD QB but he's not a starter. He's that guy who should be relegated to being a "commander Cody". Keep him in reserves for when your main guy is down. He can do a stellar job in a few games, but he's not the top guy because he can't carry the team on his back OR fire them up to win in "no win" situations.
 
Jules Winnfield said:
boooooo.


Yea lets not compare matt schaub to great qbs. lets compare him to joe flacoo and tony romo.

smdh....

Houstonians need to get off this path to perpetual mediocrity.


Why can we expect schaub to be as great as the other qbs?

even more important,

Why cant we start planning to draft and look for the qb of the future while schaub plays out his contract?

Why would that be so bad?
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A 13 win season isn't mediocre. 8-8 is mediocre 9-7 is mediocre. We need receivers not a quarterback. After Dre none of our receivers are better than their corner backs. Schaub threw for 4000+ this yr.
 
ckhouston said:
So, in your little world, if some says "I am exactly like Jesus" ... you have to wait for them to say "I am the son of God" before accepting what they mean?

Ok ...
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The thread title "Schaub stated he was elite" was a lie and you know it.

Well, on second thought, maybe you really don't. Being that you're such a lying coward yourself, (go get drunk and go slide down the escalator) I guess you really don't know the difference.
 
dream_team said:
When did he pad his stats?

If you want to talk about padding stats, Brady is the king of that!
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How does Brady pad stats when they are throwing from the word go?

Look at his situational stats by quarter. Pretty consistent

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/situationalstats

I haven't paid as much attention but Schaub got a huge amount of stats padding 2 years back when they were behind all the time until the 4th and had to throw non-stop. This year he seems fine.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/situationalstats

EDIT: Here is Schaub 2010...big 4th quarter padding as stated

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/situationalstats?season=2010
 
HoustonFrog said:
How does Brady pad stats when they are throwing from the word go?

Look at his situational stats by quarter. Pretty consistent

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/situationalstats

I haven't paid as much attention but Schaub got a huge amount of stats padding 2 years back when they were behind all the time until the 4th and had to throw non-stop. The last 2 years I have no clue because the above metrics isn't pulling up on NFL.com for those years. This year he seems fine

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/situationalstats
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I consider stat padding when you're throwing the ball and you don't have to. So i don't really consider Schaub padding his stats around that time; He threw the ball as much as he did b/c he had to try to win the game. yes the defense does let up a little, but it lets up in both situations when you're ahead by 30 pts (running clock) and when you're down 30 pts (giving up). So in that regard, both qb's benefited somewhat.
 
HoustonFrog said:
How does Brady pad stats when they are throwing from the word go?

Look at his situational stats by quarter. Pretty consistent

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/situationalstats

I haven't paid as much attention but Schaub got a huge amount of stats padding 2 years back when they were behind all the time until the 4th and had to throw non-stop. This year he seems fine.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/situationalstats

EDIT: Here is Schaub 2010...big 4th quarter padding as stated

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/situationalstats?season=2010
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Everyone knows Brady's stats are padded. It's not on him, but it's his coach. Even though they could be up 3 TDs in the 4th quarter, Brady will still be passing like they're behind (when most teams in this situation would run the ball to kill the clock). That's why I say his stats are padded. Look at this past game. At the 11:35 mark in the 4th quarter, the Pats are up 18 (3 possessions). Any normal coach would start killing the clock, but instead, Brady does 4 passes in a row. I get it, they are going for the kill and being ultra-aggressive. But this is what I mean by padding stats, throwing the ball when most teams are running it.

Schaub (and Kubiak) on the other hand is the total opposite. They throw only when they have to. In fact, most fans will tell you they don't throw it enough. That, I don't call padding stats.
 
dream_team said:
Everyone knows Brady's stats are padded. It's not on him, but it's his coach. Even though they could be up 3 TDs in the 4th quarter, Brady will still be passing like they're behind (when most teams in this situation would run the ball to kill the clock). That's why I say his stats are padded. Look at this past game. At the 11:35 mark in the 4th quarter, the Pats are up 18 (3 possessions). Any normal coach would start killing the clock, but instead, Brady does 4 passes in a row. I get it, they are going for the kill and being ultra-aggressive. But this is what I mean by padding stats, throwing the ball when most teams are running it.

Schaub (and Kubiak) on the other hand is the total opposite. They throw only when they have to. In fact, most fans will tell you they don't throw it enough. That, I don't call padding stats.
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I don't think that is stat padding in Brady's case. That is just their offense. They throw to short check downs as a form of running..conservative throws. If you look at that link his numbers are pretty even by quarter. Also, with the comebacks these days, I wouldn't call 18 insurmountable. They just don't have a running game.

Mr teX said:
I consider stat padding when you're throwing the ball and you don't have to. So i don't really consider Schaub padding his stats around that time; He threw the ball as much as he did b/c he had to try to win the game. yes the defense does let up a little, but it lets up in both situations when you're ahead by 30 pts (running clock) and when you're down 30 pts (giving up). So in that regard, both qb's benefited somewhat.
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I get what your saying but I think many people's definition includes games where there is an unlikely chance to win but your QB is throwing into prevent defenses. Just throwing hat out there.
 
You can put some blame on other facets of the team for their late season failures, but the biggest blame goes on Schaub as QB not being able to move the ball WHEN IT MATTERS.
Pretty sure at one point in the Pats game I saw we were 2/12 on 3rd downs. That's atrocious. People spitting his stats at me that he got during trash time are idiots. When Matt Schaub converts a 3rd and 5+ to help move the chains, it's AMAZING. When everyone else does it, it's expected.
 
dream_team said:
Everyone knows Brady's stats are padded. It's not on him, but it's his coach. Even though they could be up 3 TDs in the 4th quarter, Brady will still be passing like they're behind (when most teams in this situation would run the ball to kill the clock). That's why I say his stats are padded. Look at this past game. At the 11:35 mark in the 4th quarter, the Pats are up 18 (3 possessions). Any normal coach would start killing the clock, but instead, Brady does 4 passes in a row. I get it, they are going for the kill and being ultra-aggressive. But this is what I mean by padding stats, throwing the ball when most teams are running it.
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His stats aren't really padded at all especially this season. The Patriots scored 557 points for the entire season. Brady's stats could have been a lot more as far as TD passes, but they ran it all of the time inside the 10 and inside the 5 where they ended up with the most rushing TD's for any team with 25 rushing TD's. Brady could have thrown for over 40 TD's easily had he pushed to throw it more in the red zone. You're right that BB keeps his starters in longer then most teams do though. Brady's passing yards stats are high just like they are in every season though. A big reason why they keep their offensive starters in a lot longer is because their defense was giving up a ton of points in the first 8 games of the season. Their offense was literally having to put up over 30 just to get past a lot of teams early on, so I don't think their coaching staff ever really trusted their defense that much. I still don't.

dream_team said:
Schaub (and Kubiak) on the other hand is the total opposite. They throw only when they have to. In fact, most fans will tell you they don't throw it enough. That, I don't call padding stats.
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This is true. Not to mention, the same thing happened to Schaub with the passing TD's with Arian Foster having like 17 rushing TD's for the entire season. Kubiak wants to run, run, run...........
 
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