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HC possibilities - Cowher is the current flavor
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Pollardized
Division Champ
Thanks rmartin! By the way I have some serious man love for Toby Gerhart. That dude can run the ball. There was a good article on why he can't win the Heisman because he's white, and why black QBs can't win because they are playing a white position. Really was something to think about.
I can only imagine what we would look like with Toby running the ball, Matt at QB, our receivers and OD back, behind a solid, big OL. I don't think Kubiak would draft him though. Maybe if we had a new coach though......
I can only imagine what we would look like with Toby running the ball, Matt at QB, our receivers and OD back, behind a solid, big OL. I don't think Kubiak would draft him though. Maybe if we had a new coach though......
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
My biggest concern is that our DT's are too small to fit into a 3-4. They'd either need to put on weight or they'd need to get replaced.
Link?
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Do not have one. Clayton yesterday and Mort today, both being interviewed on the Mike & Mike Show.
Cannot find the Clayton one, but here is the podcast for Mort.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/6919/podcast-mort-on-mike-shanahan
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eriadoc
Texan-American
I'm not on the Fire Kubiak bandwagon yet, but if he doesn't pull out a winning season, I want him gone. As I pointed out in the Kris Brown thread, there's a standard for the job. Anything but a winning season this year doesn't get the job done, and after four years, he should be gone. I like Kubiak, but there's a job to be done.
As I said in some other thread (maybe this one, now that they've all merged), Holmgren interests me more than Cowher. He's the only guy to coach two different SB teams, and he built them both.
Cowher wouldn't suck, though.
As I said in some other thread (maybe this one, now that they've all merged), Holmgren interests me more than Cowher. He's the only guy to coach two different SB teams, and he built them both.
Cowher wouldn't suck, though.
michaelm
vox nihili
I don't like the 3/4. Capers ruined it for me. It's kind of like cherry tomatoes. I got a really rotten cherry tomato one time and I haven't touched one since. It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I never want to take that chance again. Dom Capers 3/4 is that cherry tomato and I never want that taste in my mouth again.
I love Cohwer, but leave the 4/3 intact and continue to build out our D as it is currently structured. There is no need whatsoever to blow up the building when all it needs is a fresh coat of paint.
Based on your logic, Richard Smith should've ruined the 4-3 for you to the same extent or more.
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
I don't know if Kubiak has officially been placed on the hot seat, but I'm telling you that look on McNair's face after the game was priceless. He looked like he was ready to rip someone's head off. Good on him.
Personally, I was on the Gruden train until Monday night. That dude with VY's nuts on his chin wanted me to just hurl.
Personally, I was on the Gruden train until Monday night. That dude with VY's nuts on his chin wanted me to just hurl.
Here are five key ingredients that will make or break the transition to the 3-4:
1. Football IQ: The 3-4 requires players to have a reasonable football IQ, and it can’t be mastered overnight, even if the defensive coordinator knows the scheme like the back of his hand. The Tampa 2 was the last trendy defense to take the NFL by storm, but for all its wonderment, the byproduct was turning players into robots.
Cushing, Ryans, Mario, Dyles CHECK!
2. Elephant: This is the NFL’s equivalent of a hybrid. He is part defensive end, part linebacker, and is athletic enough to have limited coverage skills and physical enough to dominate an offensive tackle. DeMarcus Ware, Adalius Thomas, Terrell Suggs, Shawne Merriman and LaMarr Woodley are examples.
Barwin. CHECK!
3. Sidekick: This is another outside linebacker (like Greg Ellis, Mike Vrabel, Shaun Phillips and James Harrison) who has coverage skills but also can dominate a running back and occasionally beat an offensive tackle.
Cushing. CHECK!
4. Power pig: A 3-4 defense must have a nose guard who commands a double team on run plays. He has to be the master between the guards.
Okam, Frank DT 6-5 338 Texas
Cody, Shaun DT 6-4 310 Southern California
Robinson, DelJuan DT 6-3 320 Mississippi State
They have the size but do they have the skill?
5. The 5 Techniques: You need two defensive ends who can control the line of scrimmage. They need to be able to beat one-on-one matchups on pass plays but must be dominant in stopping the run.
Mario & Smith CHECK.
Mario, D Robinson?, Smith
Cushing, Ryans, Dyles, Barwin
Thats not a bad front 7. Lots of speed, smarts and talent in that group. Draft Rolando McLain LB Alabama, pick up a safety, big DT, guard and a Big RB in the rest of the draft and free agency and shazam we have a new team in the mold of Cowhers Pittburg teams. That would be the best LB in the NFL. Probably as good as any group Cowher ever coached.
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SouthSideTexan
Glutton for Punishment
Rumor on 790 is that Cowher is interested in the Texans if the opprotunity came along.... What do you all think now.....Wait and give Kubiak another year and miss out on Cowher or can Gary on Jan 4th and go after him? 
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Rumor on 790 is that Cowher is interested in the Texans if the opprotunity came along.... What do you all think now.....Wait and give Kubiak another year and miss out on Cowher or can Gary on Jan 4th and go after him?
McNair talks behind the scene to Cowher after the season is over. If Cowher really wants to sign, you fire Kubiak and hire Cowher.
I dunno but seriously doubt if just firing Kubiak would bring Cower, however there might be some chance if McNair was willing to fire both Kubiak and Smith and hand Cower a blank check.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Agreed! Unless we spank our opponent in all 6 games left. Which is not very likely
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I think that Tony Dungy would be a perfect fit for the texans not sure if he is ready to come back but he would be my choice as he know this division inside out and he knows the colts weaknesses. My 2nd choice would be Mike Holmgren this guy knows how to run an organization and he would get the defense in order and he is very good with QB's.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
IIRC, that's what happened with Jimmy Johnson in 2005. Seems like it was during the season.
Pollardized
Division Champ
.... with Vince Young's nuts on his tonsils...
rollinstone18
let it bleed
maybe. but if cowher coaches any nfl team in texas i'll make a wager that it'll be the cowboys. jerry jones won't keep wade phillips if cowher makes himself available. and we all know who would win a bidding war between jerry and mcnair.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Jerry will do what it takes to pull Cowher away from us.
No way Cowher would work for Jones. NO WAY! Jones is a younger version of Al Davis.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I always thought that Jones was a robot.
rollinstone18
let it bleed
jones ain't no rooney, but it's all about the benjamins. besides, the cowboys already have a 3-4 defense and decent pieces on offense. and realistically, who would turn down the opportunity to coach the cowboys?
Silver Oak
All Pro
Are you kidding? I dont understand where this McNair wont pay like Jones theory came from. When has he ever been cheap? And I bet if you asked any quality head coaching candidate who he would rather work for the majority would say McNair. Jones demands certain control that a coach like Cowher is not going to relinquish. I cannot imagine Cowher, Holgram, Shanny SR types who want total control wanting to put up with a medling owner like Jones. He is an Al Davis clone and look at the Raiders coaching candidates.
Think about it, look at all the coaches Dallas has had since Jimmy Johnson left. Tuna was the only top notch coach and look how that turned out. Yeh I know they got a big new fancy stadium and lots of money to throw around but coaches that have EARNED real respect arent going to want to have some no-itall owner that never coached a game, try and tell them how to do their thing. I beleive Tuna will be the last really good head coach Dallas will have had untill Jones is gone as Dallas's owner
houstonspartan
All Pro
I think we sometimes forget how R-I-C-H Bob McNair is. He's got the bennies, and then some. We just don't THINK he's as rich as Jerry because Jerry is one of those pompous-ass rich people that likes to flaunt it.
McNair is one of those people who you see driving a used car, but has a gazillion dollars in the bank. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes out of his way to buy gas at Kroger so he can get a discount using his Kroger Plus Card.
But, he's not cheap. McNair has the cash and will spend it if necessary.
houstonspartan
All Pro
Also a lot of this depends on price. Shanahan is apparently seeking $10 million per year. Would Cowher want that much?
Jerry is the only owner dumb enough to shell out $10 mil a year for a coach.
I like Cowher, but $10 million a year for any coach is just insane.
McNair could easily afford that, but he didn't become rich by making bad business deals. If a coach comes asking for that much, he should pass.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
And that's how much it has been reported that Cowher wants....
$10M per year.
$10M per year.
BattleRedToro
Thread Killer
I don't think McNair bought the Texans for a business investment. He bought the team because he loves sports. Sure, he isn't going to forget all of the knowledge that made him a success at business, but that doesn't mean that he will run the Texans like his past businesses.
It also should be noted that you assume that paying any coach $10 Million a year is a bad business decision when that may be incorrect. If the Texans win more games as a direct result of the hiring of a new more expensive coach, then the increased revenue from the likely increased merchandise sales could potentially more than make up for the cost.
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TexanBacker93
Veteran
How's Carolina's financial situation, though? Is that market strong enough and do they get enough extra revenue to pay for Cowher? From a financial standpoint I would think McNair is in a better spot to afford him.
TexanBacker93
Veteran
They could sell Cowher jerseys and probably get $10 million just off those sales.
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Yep. I think he wants the Carolina job. Houston is just a bargaining chip.
houstonspartan
All Pro
No, I'm sure he didn't put the team together for a business investment. But he's no fool. He knows this is a business. The man has spent well over a billion dollars. He knows he must maintain that investment somehow.
Hey, I'm a season ticket holder, and I would give my right arm for Cowher. But, it just seems like $10 million is a lot of money for a coach.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Probably will, but most likely wouldn't be Cowher. He would have much more to fix in Washington than with the Bears and especially us.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I'd say the best coach is worth as much as the best player. $10M per year is worth it if we can get someone in here that can put this team in position to compete for the Lombardi trophy every year and rid the losing culture that has been here since the team's inception.
Then, when he does decide to retire, hopefully he can set us up with a nice replacement from within the organization like Dungy did for the Colts.
I'd rather try something new (pay a HC $10M per year) than continue with the status-quo which has resulted in a pathetic excuse for a trophy case for Houston football teams.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
May have already been said, but I say give him Dunta's money 
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
I just have a hard time seeing this.
The Texans would have to blow up the team again. Both lines aren't Cowher lines, Cowher does the 3-4, there's not enough smashmouthy stuff going on. Plus some of Cowhers best assistants are either fixed with the Steelers or have gone on to greener pastures.
I really think the Texans are just being mentioned to drive the price up.
The Texans would have to blow up the team again. Both lines aren't Cowher lines, Cowher does the 3-4, there's not enough smashmouthy stuff going on. Plus some of Cowhers best assistants are either fixed with the Steelers or have gone on to greener pastures.
I really think the Texans are just being mentioned to drive the price up.
houstonspartan
All Pro
A friend of mine in another state who is knowledgeable about sports put it all in perspective a couple of hours ago.
Her comment: "You guys have a QB that is good enough to take you to the Super Bowl. And, he's not even 30 yet."
She's right. And that is what makes this franchise more attractive this year as opposed to last year. If he wanted to raise his price, Cowher could have easily randomly picked another team to mention. Instead, he specifically said the Texans.
I'm not saying he isn't using us to drive the price up. It's possible.
But we can't overlook the fact that Matt Schaub makes this franchise look very, very good to a lot of coaches.
RagingBull
Hall of Shame
If Cowher wants to come here, then you have to do the deal. Not doing so would be like passing on Tom Brady as a free agent because you already have Matt Shaub.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I am tired of this ****. I do not know what Houston sports did to receive this cruel joke year after year and game after game but I am tired of it!!! I want the owner Bob Mcnair to bring in a proven winner at HC and change the culture of this team. Make them winners, I don't care how much it would cost to bring him in, just give him a blank check and let him make this team a winner dammit!!!
I can use this thread to go over the mistakes today and the pathetic meltdown that I have come to expect from the Texans when the pressure is on but that's an exercise in futility. Get rid of the nice guy players-coach who is probably giving his team sliced oranges and capri-sun after another loss...
Bring in the chin!!!
I can use this thread to go over the mistakes today and the pathetic meltdown that I have come to expect from the Texans when the pressure is on but that's an exercise in futility. Get rid of the nice guy players-coach who is probably giving his team sliced oranges and capri-sun after another loss...
Bring in the chin!!!
valleytexfan
Veteran
ditto.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Give the winner a blank check and he'll come back to coaching.
MannyFresh
El Capitan
...and if not them, what would it take to convince Marty to come back?
LonerATO
All Pro
He wants 10 mill a season and Im not sure if McNair wants to pay that
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