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where are all the haters
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Specnatz
Hall of Fame
GP
Go Texans!
It's 3 bad teams, plus four straight home games that's made a big difference. No travel, no harrassing crowd, and poor opponents have definitely played a part in the winning streak.
My only gripe is against the fans who hopped into the Delorian and time-traveled back to the predictions of playoffs for this team (after seeing us reel off 3-in-a-row).
I'm nowhere near that sort of mindset going into the Minnesota game. I've religiously watched Rockets/Astros/Oilers since about 1987, so I find myself getting older and thinking to myself "You know what? I'm just going to chill out and not get too ramped up over winning streaks and media hype when the team looks good."
The Rockets winning streak last year? It was fun, but the longer it went...the more I felt this was not a good thing for our post-season play. I didn't expect the Rockets to get past the first round, even though they should have.
And I don't expect the Texans to make the playoffs, even though they should. Will I be happy if they do? In a big way "yes," and in a small way "no," because I still don't think this team is really on the verge of blowing up onto the scene yet.
I just can't teleport back to youthful unhealthy expectations for Houston teams anymore. And I'm only 32! LOL.
Reservation4Six
Practice Squad
And the player hater of the year award goes to.......buck nasty
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Somebody link me to all of these threads talking about playoffs, and parades, and how great we are. I've seen some NEWS ARTICLE threads where people discuss what the media is saying about the Texans, but I honestly haven't seen a real big amount of people talking about how we are just so good that we need to point them out and belittle them in posts.
Seriously, I think some of you guys are just making stuff up to look down your nose at.
Also, Second Honeymoon wtf? That was like a complete 180 from previous viewpoints.
vvvvv pfffft hahahahahah. 3 defenses on your fantasy squad huh?
Seriously, I think some of you guys are just making stuff up to look down your nose at.
Also, Second Honeymoon wtf? That was like a complete 180 from previous viewpoints.
vvvvv pfffft hahahahahah. 3 defenses on your fantasy squad huh?
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SICLICK
Noob
Im a Texans fan.
My other 2 Defenses are on bye Vikings were the best choice left.
Chances are itll be a close game so the points for the Vikes wont go into the negative.
This pretty much sums it up. They're young and they WILL screw up. But this team has learned they can come back from screw ups if they don't quit.
The team we used to watch a few years back would pack it in when things got tough. I think this team is better than that.
But this team is still learning some hard lessons:
- The Colts game taught them that even playing near perfect ball, it could all come crashing down in a heartbeat if even one guy screws the pooch.
- The Miami game taught them that even after screwing up all day, if you don't quit anything is possible.
- The Detroit game taught them that, even against sucky teams, you can't let up.
- The Cincy game taught them how good they can be when they don't let up.
Let's hope the Vikings game teaches them how to win on the road.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Well, this was me at 0-4:
I disagree. I say we start a hardcore run of wins and will be at least 6-6 after the Jacksonville game on Dec. 1st. If this team doesn't quit, which I don't think it will, it's going to be winning a lot of games the next two months.
I'm looking forward to a special season this year, starting next week.
As far as '09 goies, that will be the season to start talking superbowl. For this year, we're going to be chasing down the wild card teams... I think we will fall a little short with 9 wins or so, but it's gonna be a fun chase.
Watch and see! Signed on this day of Oct.6, 2008.
p.s. I'm not being a homer. I really believe this team is starting to play very good football and that the losses this year are a result of incredible circumstances. Yesterday was the best any Texan team has ever played a football game, IMO. 2 Sage fumbles cost us the game but don't change the quality of football that the rest of the team played
Giant Tiger
Veteran
Pretty much sums up my thoughts. That's why I'm looking forward to the next few games, especially on the road against Indianapolis & Cleveland. We have to beat those teams, as well as Baltimore to have a shot. Should be exciting to watch 
barrett
All Pro
GP
Go Texans!
That's a post I can buy into. Can't argue any of it, and I hope that somehow the coaches are stressing this to the players in all their meetings this week.
Pretty dadgum good post. Rep'd ya.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
well i wont call it a complete 180, but when your team goes from 0-4 after the Colts debacle and then turns around and wins an unprecedented 3 in a row, it goes a long way towards changing your viewpoints.
we still have major problems and inadequacies that must be addressed for us to be a legitimate winning team, but for the team to not go into a freefall after being 0-4 after the Colts game shows that the team DOES have some heart and pride after all. I wasn't so sure about that in the past. It also gives Kubiak some credibility in that the players are playing for him and didn't quit when things got tough and looked miserable. I may not think Kubiak is the guy to lead us to the Super Bowl but its obvious he had a big hand in improving our offense and although he agreed to work with Carr he also admitted it was a failure only after 1 year...which I appreciated whole heartedly. Some coaches wouldn't have admitted failure that quickly.
I am not going to get all excited and say the P word because we beat a few crappy teams, but I am going to be proud of it and I am not going to go out of my way to look for the grey lining in a silver cloud. As a Texans fan, you take what you can get and the last 3 weekends have been pretty sweet.
The big test is this Sunday on the road. Kubiak has just an atrocious road record as a HC and we normally just lay down and get our arses beat. This is the next step for the Texans and with some suspensions and the lack of a quality QB on the Vikings, this could be our chance to be truly relevant in the NFL....not the P word, just relevant...which would be a positive step.
Just think if we could have beat those damn Colts. They would be 2-5, wallowing in last place in their division, and already making offseason vacation plans. We are going to get another chance at them and we owe them..BIG TIME!! If Kubiak can't get them fired up for that game, will he ever be able to? Our guys should be frothing at the mouth to end the Colts season. Look at what the Titans did. They basically ended the Colts season in front of the whole nation. That was still sweet even if it was our rival doing the deed. If you can't tell, i hate the freaking Colts and Mr. Forehead, Peyton himself. I respect them, but oh man I HATE 'EM!
3rd and Inches
NFL's La Migra
I'm just hoping that we win this Sunday on my birthday. Considering I'll be turning 40, I need something to look forward to dammit. LOL
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
You're turning 40? What? You look like you could be turning 30?
Any way, happy early Birthday. Get you a extra shot of some Yaegar for me man!!
The Texans gave me a meltdown of epic proportions for my b-day. Hopefully your present turns out to be better.
p.s. hope you have a great day! You only get to the top of the hill once, man! It's all downhill from here. Your Old Fart brigade invite will be forthcoming shortly.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
You're turning 40? What? You look like you could be turning 30?
Any way, happy early Birthday. Get you a extra shot of some Yaegar for me man!!
The Texans gave me a meltdown of epic proportions for my b-day. Hopefully your present turns out to be better.
p.s. hope you have a great day! You only get to the top of the hill once, man! It's all downhill from here. Your Old Fart brigade invite will be forthcoming shortly.
Ahhhh, the beauty of a July Birthday. The only thing I have to worry about is a fairly unimportant Astros game..
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
Malloy
Hall of Fame
Omg you're like not a fan at all! This is the type of posts that screams for negative rep!!!
utahmark
markbeth
i knew they would find there way back.
im not talking about about you guys who post here all the time. im talking about the guys who only post after we lose and only come here to complain. if you would read the entire thread i think i tried to make that clear.
GP
Go Texans!
I don't know what I am classified as, but I will say that a long time ago...I said that I would jump on the Schaub Wagon when he rattled off 6 or 7 performances like he had in the weeks prior to the Vikes game.
Dude crumbles under pressure. QBs are going to get hurried when they play top defenses. So we all need to stop acting like our oline is the culprit here.
Sage was weaving his way around the pocket just fine, and he didn't limp off the field yesterday. Forget the stupid argument about Sage's inability to protect the ball, because Schaub serves 'em up on a platter against good defenses, too. I remember last year's San Diego game (against a good defense) when Schaub threw picks on back-2-back drives....to the same guy. And, he didn't pay attention and he got blasted from the blindside on the pick return.
I mean, seriously. We have two backup QBs (something I stated over the summer) and no starting QB.
Couple it with a putrid defensive philosophy, and it is what it is: Mediocrity.
LOL. I guess it's human nature for guys to pit two things against each other and battle it out until one is dead. I'm sick of both of our QBs, and something else I mentioned over the summer: "Don't be surprised when we have a replay of last year's QB fiasco, and Texans fans ON THIS BOARD start calling for us to draft a QB or to gain a bonified starter, not a project."
I caught a lot of crap over that last prediction when I made it over the summer, but it's true: Our QBs are not starter quality. Solomon hit the nail on the head when he compared Sage to a spare mini-tire: Good for short-term emergency use, but not a long-term solution. Same goes for Schaub as far as I am concerned.
So, let the battle of inconsequential QB controversy resume...
GP, This will be twice that I've had to concede that you may have a point.
The first time was when you maintained that we need talent upgrades on defense. I maintained that it was Richard Smith and not a lack of talent. Now I still won't agree that Richard Smith would do any better if we got said upgrades. But the upgrades are definitely needed.
This time I'm going to have to concede again that we could use an upgrade in the QB spot. We've got an upgrade when YKW left, but I'm going to have to agree that, unless the turnover issues are corrected, neither Matt nor Sage is the final solution to our QB woes.
I will say this. I think with a significant defensive upgrade - both talent-wise and coordinator-wise - either guy is a good enough game manager to get us into the playoffs. But defenses get tough at playoff time and these guys - so far - have wilted against strong defenses.
The first time was when you maintained that we need talent upgrades on defense. I maintained that it was Richard Smith and not a lack of talent. Now I still won't agree that Richard Smith would do any better if we got said upgrades. But the upgrades are definitely needed.
This time I'm going to have to concede again that we could use an upgrade in the QB spot. We've got an upgrade when YKW left, but I'm going to have to agree that, unless the turnover issues are corrected, neither Matt nor Sage is the final solution to our QB woes.
I will say this. I think with a significant defensive upgrade - both talent-wise and coordinator-wise - either guy is a good enough game manager to get us into the playoffs. But defenses get tough at playoff time and these guys - so far - have wilted against strong defenses.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Agreed, it just to me seems like Sage runs the team more efficiently in tough games. He just does. I'm not saying he is much better, but slightly. Before the season I thought Shaub was just slightly better than Sage. To me they are pretty close and not really starter material unless your alternatives are the Gus Ferrott, Tavaris Jackson, Rex Grossman types. Neither one is that bad, but neither one is that good either. If there was one QB out of the two that I think could end up rising out of nowhere, my money would be on Sage, but of course he would need more time to get the practice in and not feel like he will be pulled the minute he makes a mistake. The sad part in all of this was that Kubiak and his awful stubborness wouldn't even allow a QB competition. He just gave it to Shaub after a golf game.
austintexanite
Rookie
lol..priceless!!
I can't say that I miss the patronizing posts from some of the sunshine gang.
How could we haters (i.e. realists) not have bought into the vision of the Texans as a team vying for the play-offs and threatening any elite team that crossed their paths?
How indeed.
How could we haters (i.e. realists) not have bought into the vision of the Texans as a team vying for the play-offs and threatening any elite team that crossed their paths?
How indeed.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
mot even the biggest glass of battle red koolaid can cover this crap we had to watch today.... I dont hate my team but that was baaaaaaaaaaaaad....
So you anti Carr fans...hmmmmm really we are a better team now? so the reason we lost was all his fault??????? Sage would be better?????? hmm maybe we had more problems.( i may have said that once or twice)
So you anti Carr fans...hmmmmm really we are a better team now? so the reason we lost was all his fault??????? Sage would be better?????? hmm maybe we had more problems.( i may have said that once or twice)
axman40
Hall of Fame
hookinreds
Veteran
utahmark
markbeth
i think you missed the point of the post. i was just frustrated with the people who only post after a loss. or when we have problems.(pretty much always anyway). maybe those guys were just out of town that week we looked good.
That's fine. It is just easier to bring up this thread and some of its contents then to find several other threads. Those that made fun of us who wouldn't buy into the Texans finishing off the season with something like a 7-2 run and then pointed to the Bengals games as evidence of the Texans rising to elite status.
I don't mind disagreement, but the constant partronizing, sarcastic, and belittling posts irritated me, especially since it was all based on apple pie and sunshine visions of the future that were somehow TRUE.
And now I'll drop it.