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Commanders DE Chase Young was initially projected to start week 1. After his Nov 14 ACL rupture, he was placed on IR/PUP list in late August with Rivera saying he would be back in week 5. I believe that is quite optimistic and don't expect that he will be ready before mid Nov. NFL teams and docs are pushing players to return 8-10 months post injury. Yet as I have posted with recent studies, bring these players back before the 1 year mark shows increased risk for injuries upon return.
 
Jadeveon Clowney did not practice today. The team has listed him on the Injury Report as "illness" and "elbow," but they say he is out because of the illness. Clowney has had multiple elbow "sprains" beginning in 2016.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Jadeveon Clowney did not practice today. The team has listed him on the Injury Report as "illness" and "elbow," but they say he is out because of the illness. Clowney has had multiple elbow "sprains" beginning in 2016.
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JJ Watt also did not practice today
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is another condition that can be considered with the information that is accessible.........and that is flexor/pronator tendinosis..............a degenerative rather than an inflammatory condition (not a tendinitis). It presents with much the same symptoms as UCL tear.....as the attachments of the UCL and the flexor/pronator tendons are very close to each other.


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It probably be a little more common in a QB (but certainly not common). It can take more than 6 months of conservative therapy (including PRP injections), and can commonly be recurrent. If conservative treatment fails, the flexor/pronator tendons must be reconstructed and reattached, much like Tommy John surgery. The only fairly recent example of this that I can think of is Roethlisberger, who eventually during rehab tore 3 of 4 of his flexor tendons off the bone. He was originally incorrectly reported as having Tommy John surgery was performed and he was out essentially for the entire 2019 season.

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Roethlisberger was not the first. I remember Marino while playing for the 49ers actually had this condition and during his rehab, the flexor/pronator tendons tore away from the bone. He had surgery and missed the whole 1991 season including the playoffs.
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Matthew Stafford’s elbow is still an issue; how big of a problem will it be in 2022?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2022, 9:31 AM EDT


The Rams have made it clear that quarterback Matthew Stafford has “no limitations” for Week One, due to a chronic elbow problem. The real question is whether limitations will arise in Week Two or thereafter.

There’s an issue with the elbow. That’s undisputed. When talking about it with reporters recently, Stafford deliberately stopped short when he said, “ still think there’s. . . . I don’t know.”

Here’s what he know. He had a procedure in the offseason on the elbow. He wore a brace after getting the injection to reduce inflammation in his elbow.

For some reason, that old news has been repackaged and presented as new news on Thursday morning.

“Rams QB Matthew Stafford underwent an off-season elbow procedure to deal with the pain he experienced last season and to help prepare for this season, per sources,” tweeted Schefty. “Despite the questions about his elbow, Stafford is now said to feel better today than he did at this time last year.”

It’s unclear whether this is a not-so-uncommon quota-filling misfire by Schefter or part of a quid-pro-quo effort to affirmatively spread the team’s Serenity Now message about Stafford as the season arrives.
All is well. All is fine. This is fine.

There’s still reason for concern. The Rams held Stafford out of team drills in multiple practices last month, as they tried to come up with a way to figure out what they determined to be a baseball injury. Eventually, he was able to fully participate in practices. He’s now ready to play in a game. What happens tomorrow, when he rolls out of bed and his elbow is or isn’t throbbing from making 20 or 30 or 40 or more throws that put the kind of pressure on the elbow that he hasn’t since February?

Consider the last part of Schefter’s tweet. “Stafford is now said to feel better today than he did at this time last year.” That does not mean he’s 100 percent. It just means he’s better now than he was a year ago, after going through training camp without extensive time away from team drills to protect the elbow.

Even though the Rams insist there are no limitations, it’s fair to wonder whether they are strategically concealing the truth (i.e., lying) so that the Bills aren’t ready tonight for, say, a run-heavy attack that protects Stafford’s elbow and keeps Buffalo’s high-powered offense on the sidelines.

Whatever the explanation, the fact remains that it’s been known for months that there’s an issue with the elbow. And it seems that the issue is still there. One of the biggest questions hovering over the Rams for the 2022 season is whether Stafford will be able to play effectively through whatever discomfort he may experience from Week One through Week 18, and beyond.
 
This is Cowboys WR Michael Gallup. He suffered a left ACL on Jan 2 of this year. He is now 8 1/4 months post injury. You can appreciate how much quadriceps atrophy he still has compared to his uninjured side. The return of the quadriceps size is a good measure of when a player is ready for return as it is usually the last thing to come back and a sign of full recovery. If postoperative ACL athletes are not held back until this return occurs, muscle strength imbalances are high risk for lower limb injury(ies).

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CloakNNNdagger said:
Pete Carrol is still saying RB the Kenneth Walker is now practicing and will probably be ready for week 1. His "little hernia thing" surgery is going to make his RB return a "little delayed thing." :backsout:
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The team listed Walker as a non-participant Thursday, four days before the season opener against the Broncos.
 
Another fine citizen produced by the NFL.

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Ex-NFL player Kevin Ware accused of stabbing, strangling girlfriend before burning her body
Posted by Charean Williams on September 8, 2022, 6:44 PM EDT

A grand jury indicted former NFL tight end Kevin Ware Jr. for murder and tampering with evidence in July in connection with the death of his girlfriend. Harris was transferred to the Harris County jail in Houston on Wednesday to face charges.

Taylor Pomaski, 29, was last seen April 25, 2021, at a party at her home. She disappeared under suspicious circumstances, authorities said at the time, and her remains were found nine months later. She wasn’t positively identified until April 29, 2022.

Court documents obtained by the Houston Chronicle this week shared gruesome details about her murder. Ware stands accused of stabbing, hitting and strangling Pomaski before dumping her in a ditch and burning her corpse.

Prosecutors have requested Ware be held on a $1 million bond, citing arrests in California and Washington and a history of bond forfeitures and other violations in Montgomery County, Texas. Ware was found in possession of drugs twice this spring and failed to appear for supervision, the Chronicle reports.

He was convicted of intent to manufacture or deliver a controlled substance in December 2018.
Wa
 
SMH
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Frank Clark pleads no contest to gun charges in Los Angeles
Posted by Charean Williams on September 8, 2022, 6:22 PM EDT


Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark settled his legal issues Thursday, pleading no contest to two counts of misdemeanor possession of an assault weapon, the Associated Press reports.

He was sentenced to one year of probation and 40 hours of community service stemming from his June 2021 arrest in Los Angeles. The judge also requested he host four free youth football camps, and the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said Clark has fulfilled the camp requirement.

Clark, 29, is scheduled to return to court March 29, 2023, to show he has completed the rest of his sentence.
He faces punishment from the NFL under the Personal Conduct Policy.

Clark was arrested March 12, 2021, along with another man, on a gun charge during a routine traffic stop in Los Angeles. Officers saw the muzzle of a firearm in a bag in the back seat and recovered two loaded firearms — one rifle and one handgun — from the vehicle.

Clark was arrested again three months later for felony illegal possession of a firearm. Police spotted an Uzi inside an open duffle bag during a routine traffic stop in Los Angeles. Clark claimed the gun belonged to a member of his security team.

During a news conference in training camp, he admitted that “at some point you have to grow up” and be an example for your children.

He did not practice with the Chiefs on Thursday because of an illness, but the Chiefs are counting on a rebound from Clark.
 
Looks like the Jets will probably be without LT Duane Brown, while the Ravens will probably be missing their LT Ronnie Stanley.
Brown for a shoulder injury, and Stanley for an ankle injury. In October last year, Stanley underwent season-ending ankle surgery (missing 16 games), almost a full year after an injury to the same ankle took him out for a good part of 2020 (missed 11 games). The first injury came days after Stanley signed a five-year contract with the Ravens. The second came after months of rehabilitation trying to get back on the field .
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
SMH
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Frank Clark pleads no contest to gun charges in Los Angeles
Posted by Charean Williams on September 8, 2022, 6:22 PM EDT


Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark settled his legal issues Thursday, pleading no contest to two counts of misdemeanor possession of an assault weapon, the Associated Press reports.

He was sentenced to one year of probation and 40 hours of community service stemming from his June 2021 arrest in Los Angeles. The judge also requested he host four free youth football camps, and the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said Clark has fulfilled the camp requirement.

Clark, 29, is scheduled to return to court March 29, 2023, to show he has completed the rest of his sentence.
He faces punishment from the NFL under the Personal Conduct Policy.

Clark was arrested March 12, 2021, along with another man, on a gun charge during a routine traffic stop in Los Angeles. Officers saw the muzzle of a firearm in a bag in the back seat and recovered two loaded firearms — one rifle and one handgun — from the vehicle.

Clark was arrested again three months later for felony illegal possession of a firearm. Police spotted an Uzi inside an open duffle bag during a routine traffic stop in Los Angeles. Clark claimed the gun belonged to a member of his security team.

During a news conference in training camp, he admitted that “at some point you have to grow up” and be an example for your children.

He did not practice with the Chiefs on Thursday because of an illness, but the Chiefs are counting on a rebound from Clark.
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I wonder what the prison time would have been if Clark was not in the NFL and just your average run of the mill criminal?
 
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Cardinals WR Rondale Moore sustained a hamstring tear yesterday in practice. An MRI is scheduled to assess the severity of injury. I don't see how he is available for week 1. So with Hopkins out, the Cardinals are further mamed, not to even mention Watt, who the Cardinals are saying they still expect him out there............he will/should not be out there.
 
49ers TE George Kittle sustained a groin tear and the team was hopeful that he would still be able to play. It is a Grade II tear. Don't expect him out there this week...........or for at least another several weeks.
 
Jalen Ramsey had this to say about Josh Allen being drafted:

“I think [Buffalo Bills draft pick Josh] Allen is trash. I don't care what nobody say. He's trash. And it's gonna show too. That's a stupid draft pick to me. We play them this year, and I'm excited as hell. I hope he's their starting quarterback. He played at Wyoming. Every time they played a big school—like, they played Iowa State, which is not a big school in my opinion because I went to Florida State, and he threw five interceptions, and they lost by a couple touchdowns or something like that.✞ He never beat a big school. If you look at his games against big schools, it was always hella interceptions, hella turnovers. It's like: Yo, if you're this good, why couldn't you do better? He fits that mold, he's a big, tall quarterback. Big arm, supposedly. I don't see it, personally.”

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Jalen Ramsey Probably Thinks Your Quarterback Is Trash

The Jacksonville Jaguars defensive back has emerged as one of the NFL's top young talents—and one of its premier trash talkers. Here, the corner sounds off on QBs, the weight of expectations, and protests against police brutality.
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Last night against Josh Allen:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1568078548895662082
 
I've been aske to post what PROBABLE, QUESTIONABLE, AND DOUBTFUL ACTUALLY MEAN in terms of realistic % of the player playing. Even though it changes a little from year to year, it is actually fairly constant.

PROBABLE 75% (occasional years as high as 90%)
QUESTIONABLE 50% (occasional years vasillate to about 55%)
DOUBTFUL 25% (occasional years as low as 3%)

[And if anyone still has doubt.................OUT 0%] :)
 
How to tell someone does not follow the Texans…

www.profootballnetwork.com

Biggest weaknesses of every NFL team heading into Week 1: Where do the Bills come up short?

Ahead of Week 1, Pro Football Network looks into the biggest weaknesses of the Steelers, Bears, Eagles, Cowboys, Saints and all 32 NFL teams.
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Houston Texans: Defensive line
The addition of Jerry Hughes should help the Texans force more pressure upfront, but otherwise, the group is a who’s who of “who’s who?” in a lot of ways. The Texans are hoping Jonathan Greenard and Maliek Collins take massive steps forward this season. The rest of the depth chart is going to have proven itself.
 
TheRealJoker said:
How to tell someone does not follow the Texans…

www.profootballnetwork.com

Biggest weaknesses of every NFL team heading into Week 1: Where do the Bills come up short?

Ahead of Week 1, Pro Football Network looks into the biggest weaknesses of the Steelers, Bears, Eagles, Cowboys, Saints and all 32 NFL teams.
www.profootballnetwork.com www.profootballnetwork.com

Houston Texans: Defensive line
The addition of Jerry Hughes should help the Texans force more pressure upfront, but otherwise, the group is a who’s who of “who’s who?” in a lot of ways. The Texans are hoping Jonathan Greenard and Maliek Collins take massive steps forward this season. The rest of the depth chart is going to have proven itself.
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Complete miss as far as observations go. Texans biggest weakness since Owen Daniels has been their TE room. OB’s era effectively turned the TE room into additional OL who might be required to catch a pass on occasion. I’m hoping Pep’s offense truly gets the TE’s involved in the weekly game plan this season and Howard finds his inner Bama days.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Complete miss as far as observations go. Texans biggest weakness since Owen Daniels has been their TE room. OB’s era effectively turned the TE room into additional OL who might be required to catch a pass on occasion. I’m hoping Pep’s offense truly gets the TE’s involved in the weekly game plan this season and Howard finds his inner Bama days.
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I would put the LB group up there also
 
Deshaun Watson contract likely derailed Lamar Jackson talks
Posted by Mike Florio on September 10, 2022, 7:42 AM EDT


It’s unclear whether the Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson would have gotten a contract negotiated if the Browns hadn’t given quarterback Deshaun Watson a fully-guaranteed, $230 million, five-year deal. It’s fairly clear that the Watson contract played a huge role in keeping the Ravens and Jackson from getting something done.

It’s generally believed that Jackson wanted a fully-guaranteed contract, primarily since Watson got one. It’s not an unreasonable position for Jackson to take. He won a league MVP award. Watson didn’t. Jackson has been a model citizen for the Ravens away from the field. Watson, to put it mildly, has not. If Watson deserves five years with a full guarantee, Jackson does, too.

Conversely, it’s not unreasonable for the Ravens to refuse to do it. Subsequent contracts (such as the Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson deals) suggest that the Watson contract was an aberration. Indeed, the planets lined up perfectly for Watson. Off-field issues notwithstanding, he: (1) forced a trade from Houston; (2) managed to get four teams to the table in an effort to land his services; (3) eliminated the Browns from consideration after they’d burned the bridge with Baker Mayfield; and (4) witnessed a desperate Browns franchise make Watson an offer he couldn’t refuse, in the form of a fully-guaranteed deal.

Jackson, unless he jostles to be traded after the 2023 season, won’t be able to create the same kind of rush for his services. Even if he does, one of the teams pursuing him will have to be sufficiently desperate to offer the kind of contract that will trigger derision and disapproval from the rest of the league.

And if the Ravens decide to apply the franchise tag for 2023 and 2024, Jackson remains three years away from Kirk Cousins-style unrestricted free agency. Jackson, given his playing style, may not be the same player after three more years of regularly running the ball and taking hits.

It’s another reason why Jackson needs an agent who would have explained the situation to him. Who would have told him why the Watson deal was an unattainable goal, absent first and foremost a willingness to refuse to play for the Ravens. Who would have counseled him regarding the risks and rewards, the costs and benefits, the pros and cons of taking, or not taking, the best offer the Ravens put on the table.

Then there’s the possibility that Jackson was, and still is, quietly being advised by the NFL Players Association. Union president JC Tretter wrote an essay after the Watson deal urging agents to push for fully-guaranteed contracts. What if the NFLPA, in any advice it gave to Jackson, was trying to advance that agenda in lieu of considering the actual best interests of Jackson?

Because Jackson has not said much to anyone about the process, it’s fair to wonder where and from whom he has received his advice. If someone was advising him to hold firm for a fully-guaranteed contract without explaining that maybe he would have been better off getting the most guarantees he could and maxing out his compensation relative to the Murray and Wilson contracts, that would help explain the refusal to accept Baltimore’s final offer — if they were willing to exceed the Murray and Wilson numbers.

No one knows what the Ravens offered. But these are the Ravens, not one of the various dysfunctional teams that always find a way to screw things up. Given the deals they’ve done in recent years with key players, it’s fair to assume that the Ravens put together a package that, while not fully-guaranteed, became a strong alternative to $124 million over the next three years, on a year-to-year basis of $23 million in 2022, roughly $46 million under the exclusive franchise tag in 2023, and then $55.2 million under the tag in 2024.

Unless Jackson is planning a power play, such as demanding a trade after the 2022 season, the choice came down to Door No. 1 ($124 million over three years) or Door No. 2 (Baltimore’s best offer, as part of a deal that wasn’t fully-guaranteed). He chose Door No. 1. He has every right to do it. Here’s hoping he did it with a full understanding and appreciation of the ramifications of passing on Door No. 2. Saying, “It wasn’t fully-guaranteed” isn’t a good enough reason to do that.
 
Interesting proposed alternate approach to ACL repair. Promoted as nonsurgical, although it is still surgical. There is obviously no important long-term data regarding failure rates. rerupture rates and post arthritis rates.for comparision with standard ACL repair. Only time will tell if it's boom or bust.

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BEAR-MOON procedure for ACL rupture


University Orthopedics Part of BEAR-MOON Clinical Trial- A Federally Funded Study Looking At Options For ACL Surgery
Every year, approximately 400,000 anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injuries occur. ACL reconstruction surgery is one of the most common orthopedic procedures in the United States. Unlike other ligaments, the ends of a torn ACL do not reconnect naturally. During an ACL reconstruction, an orthopedic surgeon removes the ends of the torn ACL and replaces them with a graft, usually taken from either the patellar or the hamstring tendon of the patient. Although most patients can return to sports, the ACL re-tear rate can be as high as 20 percent for teens. Up to 80 percent of patients develop arthritis 15 to 20 years after surgery.

What is the BEAR-MOON Study?
"The BEAR-MOON clinical study will look at whether the BEAR ACL restoration procedure has the same clinical outcomes as a patellar tendon reconstruction. This randomized clinical trial is being done at 6 sites across the country. University Orthopedics is the only site in the Northeast region."

What is bridge-enhanced ACL repair?
The bridge-enhanced ACL restoration (BEAR®), uses stitches and a bridging scaffold (a sponge injected with the patient's blood) to stimulate healing of the torn ACL. The procedure has been performed in preclinical models and over 100 patients with excellent results. The goal of the current study is to determine if this new technique, which repairs the torn ACL is comparable to the patellar tendon ACL reconstruction surgery.


What are the differences between ACL reconstruction and the BEAR ACL restoration?
ACL reconstruction:
  • standard care for ACL tears, proven to be safe and effective
  • requires incision to harvest the graft; other work done arthroscopically
  • requires graft harvest of patient's own tendon
  • remaining ACL tissue is removed
BEAR Restoration:
  • Use of an FDA-approved bridging scaffold to repair the torn ACL
  • requires incision to insert scaffold; other work done arthroscopically
  • no graft harvest of patient's tendon
  • remaining ACL tissue is preserved
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Learn more about the BEAR clinical trial
Currently enrolling into the BEAR-MOON clinical trial. To learn more about the BEARMOON trial or to schedule an appointment with a BEAR-MOON trial physician, please email BEAR.TRIAL@LIFESPAN.ORG or call 1-401-649-1906. You can also learn more about this clinical trial and the BEAR ACL restoration procedure at www.bearmoon.org.
 
Nelson getting a huge contract! The best guard in the game.

Hopefully the Texans will have to worry about Kenyon Green’s massive second contract in a few years after multiple all pro awards:

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Colts Signing G Quenton Nelson To Record Contract

Adam Schefter reports that the Colts and G Quenton Nelson have reached an agreement on a four-year extension averaging $20 million per year that includes $60 million guaranteed. Nelson is now the highest-paid guard in
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Chris Mortensen of ESPN.com reports that Jackson passed on a six-year deal (i.e., a five-year extension) that would have paid him $133 million fully-guaranteed at signing. That’s more than Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray ($103.3 million) and Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson ($124 million) received in full guarantees on longer contracts (seven years each) signed in recent weeks.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Chris Mortensen of ESPN.com reports that Jackson passed on a six-year deal (i.e., a five-year extension) that would have paid him $133 million fully-guaranteed at signing. That’s more than Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray ($103.3 million) and Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson ($124 million) received in full guarantees on longer contracts (seven years each) signed in recent weeks.
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He needs an agent to remind him he has a RB shelf life as a top prospect. He is one torn achilles or lisfranc injury away from losing a lot of money every time he steps on the field.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Nelson getting a huge contract! The best guard in the game.

Hopefully the Texans will have to worry about Kenyon Green’s massive second contract in a few years after multiple all pro awards:

nfltraderumors.co

Colts Signing G Quenton Nelson To Record Contract

Adam Schefter reports that the Colts and G Quenton Nelson have reached an agreement on a four-year extension averaging $20 million per year that includes $60 million guaranteed. Nelson is now the highest-paid guard in
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I dunno is an interior O-Lineman really that valuable ?
OK I know the Colts have one of the best rushing games in the league but is Nelsons individual contribution towards the success of their run game really that much more important than others on the Colts OLine ?
He's probably gonna make more than either of their O-tackles ?
 
IDEXAN said:
I dunno is an interior O-Lineman really that valuable ?
OK I know the Colts have one of the best rushing games in the league but is Nelsons individual contribution towards the success of their run game really that much more important than others on the Colts OLine ?
He's probably gonna make more than either of their O-tackles ?
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The player is so far ahead of his peers that he has a higher impact than a normal OG. Worth LT money to have the best OG imo.
 
Dak Prescott suffered a thmb injury of his throwing hand. It is not a ligament injury. It is actually a fracture that include the joint. Not a good type of fracture. At very best, we will see him back no sooner than 6-8 weels, and probably closer to 8 weeks. Since the fracture line goes through the joint, it cannot just be simply placed in a cast. It will require stabilization with pin, screws and plate. Potential complication risk is higher due to the fact that the fracture includes the joint.
 
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