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I hear that that Davis Mills quarterback could probably start for them for a reasonable round two draft pick.
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I hear that that Davis Mills quarterback could probably start for them for a reasonable round two draft pick.
Browns really screwed up by thinking DTR was ready and trading Josh Dobbs who have won games for Vikings and even the Cardinals with little practice or even knowing the names of his new teammates.How long before they give up on Walker and tryout DTR again?
He didn't break his neck, but this will do. May misfortune follow him the rest of his life, unless he repents.
Get it up in there.So we won't get to boo Watson again when the Browns come to town?
Maybe he can stand on the sidelines so we can hurl insults at him.
A missed glenoid fracture on MRI is not very likely, but possible. In my opinion, what is more likely is that his rotator cuff injury which stabilizes and tightly maintains the humoral head in the glenoid fossa (see pic in my above post and the pic below) was minimized. There was hesitance to call the rotator cuff injury a tear. With a tear, healing can occur, the involved tendon(s) can heal stretched. This can allow for return to throwing, but because a looser attachment cannot keep the ball in the socket as tightly/reliably.............and a dislocation can more easily occur...............potentially resulting in a glenoid rim fracture (with associated labrum and articular cartilage).........the injury that has occurred. And if a player is brought back sooner than should be, which I believe occurred, the rotator cuff tear can continue to stretch, leaving even less stability to the joint........and thus even greater risk for dislocation.
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They’ve got Steelers, Bengals, Rams, Jags, Bears, Broncos, Texans and Jets. Not necessarily in that order.
they could easily get 4 more wins out of that schedule even with the Roughneck Legend PJ Walker at QB
Not at allTechnically last three years...
Is it wrong that I feel a bit of shadenfreude right now?
Yep, I was hoping he would keep on playing hurt so this dumbazz would ruin his career.Watson's style of play has caught up with him.
A glenoid (the socket of the shoulder ball and socket joint) fracture occurs when the shoulder dislocates and a fragment of the joint goes with it. A fracture involving the glenoid results in an irregular portion of the joint surface. Unless the joint surface is perfectly aligned after the dislocation is back in joint, the fragments are usually treated by surgery........such is the case here.
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Many of these fractures are associated labral damage and articular cartilage damage. The full extent of Watson's shoulder injury will not be known until surgery. Such fractures are also associated with earlier than usual degenerative osteoarthritis. Expected rehab will usually take ~6 months. But return to pre-injury performance (which many times is not achieved) may take up to 1 year. The Browns are saying that a full recovery is expected. I'm curious as to how they define "full recovery."
Kaepernick, please. That would provide the most entertainment.
But you're telling me there's a chance his career might be irreparably damaged even if does make it back on the field.
Chubb and Watson out for the year is disastrous for the Browns, but I wouldn't be surprised if they went .500 in their remaining games to finish 10-7. Of course my preference is for them to lose out for our draft purpose.This should get the Browns to .500 ball. A defense can only take you so far (as we know). Those close wins the Browns have been pulling out should start going away as the defense loses steam because the offense is running out of playmakers.
I get all the negatives on this guy but his condition hopefully will put a little levity in the football world on how to handle that position. But I doubt it. The only redeeming quality in that guy that I appreciate is that he’s pretty much kept his selfishness internal and he never really spread his entitled life and philosophy all over social media like a lot of other football idiots do.This should get the Browns to .500 ball. A defense can only take you so far (as we know). Those close wins the Browns have been pulling out should start going away as the defense loses steam because the offense is running out of playmakers.
I’m not here to pile on Watson’s playmaking ability. There are plenty here that can do that. But the fact is, the Browns invested a significant portion of their salary cap into the QB position and now that player can’t play. This is a significant disadvantage, not unlike the Culley-led Texans season when they were paying the perp to ride the pine.
The trade deadline passed on Halloween.Hear me out guys, the best person to come in for Watson to help the Browns THIS YEAR is none other than... Davis Mills! He's worked with Watson before, and would be an excellent backup for him next year! He's cheap, just 1.4m and 1.6m next year, so he would be a great get for the Browns, all they have to do is give up a conditional 2nd or 3rd and they can have him. It's a win-win!
How long before they give up on Walker and tryout DTR again?
GMFB reporting that DTR will start vs SteelersBrowns really screwed up by thinking DTR was ready and trading Josh Dobbs who have won games for Vikings and even the Cardinals with little practice or even knowing the names of his new teammates.
I don't think its a style if play. It really shows how brutal football is. You can speak on this better than most, is this related to the prior injury? I mean he never looked the same after lowering his shoulder vs I think Pittsburgh. Joe Burrow is out with torn ligaments in his wrist. Rodgers with the Achilles as us Cousins. It's been a rough year on the qb'sWatson's style of play has caught up with him.
A glenoid (the socket of the shoulder ball and socket joint) fracture occurs when the shoulder dislocates and a fragment of the joint goes with it. A fracture involving the glenoid results in an irregular portion of the joint surface. Unless the joint surface is perfectly aligned after the dislocation is back in joint, the fragments are usually treated by surgery........such is the case here.
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Many of these fractures are associated labral damage and articular cartilage damage. The full extent of Watson's shoulder injury will not be known until surgery. Such fractures are also associated with earlier than usual degenerative osteoarthritis. Expected rehab will usually take ~6 months. But return to pre-injury performance (which many times is not achieved) may take up to 1 year. The Browns are saying that a full recovery is expected. I'm curious as to how they define "full recovery."
I think AI is smarter than we give it credit for. Obviously, you’re going to need weird hands for whatever “massage” he’s asking for…
I spoke to this previously. Even though the Browns have said that this is a new injury, I believe that this is unlikely.>I don't think its a style if play. It really shows how brutal football is. You can speak on this better than most, is this related to the prior injury? I mean he never looked the same after lowering his shoulder vs I think Pittsburgh. Joe Burrow is out with torn ligaments in his wrist. Rodgers with the Achilles as us Cousins. It's been a rough year on the qb's
A missed glenoid fracture on MRI is not very likely, but possible. In my opinion, what is more likely is that his rotator cuff injury which stabilizes and tightly maintains the humoral head in the glenoid fossa (see pic in my above post and the pic below) was minimized. There was hesitance to call the rotator cuff injury a tear. With a tear, healing can occur, the involved tendon(s) can heal stretched. This can allow for return to throwing, but because a looser attachment cannot keep the ball in the socket as tightly/reliably.............and a dislocation can more easily occur...............potentially resulting in a glenoid rim fracture (with associated labrum and articular cartilage).........the injury that has occurred. And if a player is brought back sooner than should be, which I believe occurred, the rotator cuff tear can continue to stretch, leaving even less stability to the joint........and thus even greater risk for dislocation.
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Well, isn’t that too bad about Deshaun Watson. And by too bad, I mean a giant dose of much-deserved karma for both Watson and the Cleveland Browns.Amazing coming from the Akron Beacon Journal which iniatially tried to cover for him.
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Two remaining outstanding lawsuits tend to glue loose lips.I get all the negatives on this guy but his condition hopefully will put a little levity in the football world on how to handle that position. But I doubt it. The only redeeming quality in that guy that I appreciate is that he’s pretty much kept his selfishness internal and he never really spread his entitled life and philosophy all over social media like a lot of other football idiots do.
Dammit Browns. Don't you know it's not your year?
Let's understand that "successful" at this point can only mean that the fractured segment was successfully repositioned. Nothing can be said regarding the shoulder's functional success or future performance success. The latter remain in significant question.Browns' Watson has surgery; rehab to start Fri.
Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson had right shoulder surgery Tuesday in Los Angeles and is expected to begin rehabbing Friday and be ready to play before the start of the 2024 season.www.espn.com
BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson underwent surgery Tuesday to repair the displaced fracture to the glenoid in his right shoulder, the team announced.
The surgery was performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache in Los Angeles and deemed successful. Watson is expected to begin rehabbing Friday and be ready to play before the start of the 2024 season.
I fail to see how this has anything to do with football or DW
The thread also mentions Cleveland, in which Haslam owns the team….The complaining has gotten stale.I fail to see how this has anything to do with football or DW
So you're going to branch it out to include Pilot and other Haslam holdings?The thread also mentions Cleveland, in which Haslam owns the team….The complaining has gotten stale.
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I think it's proper to let it be known the Cleveland franchise is ran by a POS and why he's a POS . This way posters can see exactly why the Haslam's would have no issues trading for a known Sexual Predator.So you're going to branch it out to include Pilot and other Haslam holdings?
The thread is supposed to be about the Watson trade. And the Browns still owe picks to the Texans, so the thread is still topical, as is the status of the Browns. But, that is over after the 2024 draft and Cleveland will be in the rearview mirror for good.This is the can't let go thread. Now Myles Garrett is in the Watson thread. Mods should move all this to nfl thoughts thread. Next thing Mayfield and Manziel will be in here. Smh
This thread should be locked immediately after day 3 of the 2024 draftSo it makes sense that this thread will die someday. Just not yet.
Exactly. The team is trending upwards, yet all things Browns are here. We should be happy they got rid of everything associated with the dumpster fire from the last 3 years. JmoThe thread is supposed to be about the Watson trade. And the Browns still owe picks to the Texans, so the thread is still topical, as is the status of the Browns. But, that is over after the 2024 draft and Cleveland will be in the rearview mirror for good.
As unsettling as this whole Watson situation has been, 2023 has shown the Texans are in a better place than they were with Watson. A better coach (finally), a better QB, and a better chance at winning at championship. So it makes sense that this thread will die someday. Just not yet.
Speaking of Manziel...he was a no show at a large fund raising event in Corpus Christi couple nights ago. Folks paid thousands of dollars to be there and he flat out no showed!Next thing Mayfield and Manziel will be in here. Smh
Speaking of Manziel...he was a no show at a large fund raising event in Corpus Christi couple nights ago. Folks paid thousands of dollars to be there and he flat out no showed!
Sounds about rightSpeaking of Manziel...he was a no show at a large fund raising event in Corpus Christi couple nights ago. Folks paid thousands of dollars to be there and he flat out no showed!
Lol, the ultimate Aggie jokeSpeaking of Manziel...he was a no show at a large fund raising event in Corpus Christi couple nights ago. Folks paid thousands of dollars to be there and he flat out no showed!