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Watson limped off the field twice. Just before half time, he was taken to the tunnel. He evidently suffered an ankle sprain. He was taped up by the trainers and returned to play the 2nd half. This evening, he is in a boot. He says he'll be back next week.I don’t think Watson will last the whole game.
Somewhere in the top 12? They’ve won 6 already. They won’t lose next 8. Gonna guess a top 20 pickWhat draft pick would we get if browns lose their next 8 games ?
What draft pick would we get if browns lose their next 8 games ?
Somewhere in the top 12? They’ve won 6 already. They won’t lose next 8. Gonna guess a top 20 pick
How long before they give up on Walker and tryout DTR again?5 of those 6 wins were with DW as the starter.
That D is insanely good, but they're not going to get a lot of help from their offense from here on out.
They’ve got Steelers, Bengals, Rams, Jags, Bears, Broncos, Texans and Jets. Not necessarily in that order.5 of those 6 wins were with DW as the starter.
That D is insanely good, but they're not going to get a lot of help from their offense from here on out.
Watson has a broken bone in his shoulder. Will have surgery and his season is over.
he’s played 13 games over last two years.
What draft pick would we get if browns lose their next 8 games ?
They're just being optimistic, giving us coach speak. I'm sure they're not giving us a medical prognosis. They're not doctors.The Browns are saying that a full recovery is expected. I'm curious as to how they define "full recovery."
Watson's style of play has caught up with him.
A glenoid (the socket of the shoulder ball and socket joint) fracture occurs when the shoulder dislocates and a fragment of the joint goes with it. A fracture involving the glenoid results in an irregular portion of the joint surface. Unless the joint surface is perfectly aligned after the dislocation is back in joint, the fragments are usually treated by surgery........such is the case here.
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Many of these fractures are associated labral damage and articular cartilage damage. The full extent of Watson's shoulder injury will not be known until surgery. Such fractures are also associated with earlier than usual degenerative osteoarthritis. Expected rehab will usually take ~6 months. But return to pre-injury performance (which many times is not achieved) may take up to 1 year. The Browns are saying that a full recovery is expected. I'm curious as to how they define "full recovery."
A missed glenoid fracture on MRI is not very likely, but possible. In my opinion, what is more likely is that his rotator cuff injury which stabilizes and tightly maintains the humoral head in the glenoid fossa (see pic in my above post and the pic below) was minimized. There was hesitance to call the rotator cuff injury a tear. With a tear, healing can occur, the involved tendon(s) can heal stretched. This can allow for return to throwing, but because a looser attachment cannot keep the ball in the socket as tightly/reliably.............and a dislocation can more easily occur...............potentially resulting in a glenoid rim fracture (with associated labrum and articular cartilage).........the injury that has occurred. And if a player is brought back sooner than should be, which I believe occurred, the rotator cuff tear can continue to stretch, leaving even less stability to the joint........and thus even greater risk for dislocation.They're just being optimistic, giving us coach speak. I'm sure they're not giving us a medical prognosis. They're not doctors.
Say, could this have been a fracture they missed earlier in the season when he originally injured his shoulder? Something Watson could feel, was trying to tell them, but the MRI & X-rays just didn't pick up?
Yeah, just rub some dic... I mean dirt on it.That'll massage right out, he will be fiiiine.
They have the Bears and Jets on the schedule. Might be 2 0-0 ties in those games. An 8-9 record is what I see for them. The Browns and Jets are wasting outstanding defenses.Somewhere in the top 12? They’ve won 6 already. They won’t lose next 8. Gonna guess a top 20 pick
He didn't break his neck, but this will do. May misfortune follow him the rest of his life, unless he repents.All this goes back to when Watson returned to play in a game with a Wednesday and Thursday limited practice and a full practice on a Friday walkthru practice. Shoulder injuries to especially a QB should always be put through full practice for a full week before allowed to play in a regular game. This is especially important since even during full contact Wednesday practices, QBs are off limits to being hit. For this reason alone, you want your QB out there after maximum rehab.........not minimum rehab.
I'm seeing from Browns (-1.5) to Steelers (-1)Browns still favored by 4 after this information.
From a selfish standpoint, I would have liked to see Watson come into NRG and get outplayed by Stroud. Like an early Christmas present. But as Porky showed, everthing about Watson out for the season is a positive for the Texans.So we won't get to boo Watson again when the Browns come to town?
Maybe he can stand on the sidelines so we can hurl insults at him.
From a more selfish standpoint, I want the Texans to have a better draft pick. I don't think I would have dealt with Watson winning in NRG stadium very well. This takes that scenario out of the equation. Stroud could have outplayed Watson, if the Texans lost it wouldn't have mattered to me.From a selfish standpoint, I would have liked to see Watson come into NRG and get outplayed by Stroud. Like an early Christmas present. But as Porky showed, everthing about Watson out for the season is a positive for the Texans.
I don't expect the Browns defense to continue on the current pace. With rookie QBs the rest of the way, the defense will begin to checkout. Go in early for offseason surgeries and such. They know there's nothing to play for.With or without Watson, the Browns defense (#1 in team defense) and running game (#2 in yards per game) are a potent combo. Stroud outplaying Watson and the Texans losing was very much in the realm of possibility.
I will defer to your informationI'm seeing from Browns (-1.5) to Steelers (-1)
Not mine, I just posted a link.I will defer to your information