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He looked great on film at the end of the year...despite what some here say.
He looked better on film at the end of year. Despite what some here say.
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He looked great on film at the end of the year...despite what some here say.
Texans finish this upcoming season 9-7 and only make wild card due to a weak division. Lose lopsidedly in the wild card game.
So what if he goes to Philly and kills the league, or ends up being forgotten because of poor play? Either case doesn't change the fact he is no longer a Texan. Players change teams all the time. Don't be surprised when one or more on that long list of FAs we have coming up next year leaves as well.
He looked great on film at the end of the year...despite what some here say.
What a ridiculous attitude that is.
Yeah, I'll reallllllllllly be okay when he goes to Philly and tears it up like he always does, completely invalidating any of the "positives" of this trade that so many people are trying to pump up in order to rationalize how stupid it is.
Yeah.
How is it rediculous? It doesn't matter what he does in Philly, because unless he's doing it against the Texans, it neither helps or hurts them. He's gone. I with the ones who wish he was still here, he was one of my favorite players.
But he's gone and there is nothing the ordinary fan can do except move on. And ***** about here I suppose.
Great post Dale, I agree. The loss of his leadership gets me, not just on the field but off the field as well. He's a guy the ENTIRE team has tremendous respect for. We're all know last season's mantra of Next Man Up. Well, now it's time for somebody to step up and command that leadership role and move forward. JJ Watt seems to be a good cadidate. I'm not talking about "team captain", I'm talking about the true leader that steps up and leads his team when the going gets tough. Right now, it's tough for all the Texans players.I love Demeco Ryans. I am not excited about this trade, mainly because I am concerned about the loss of leadership on the field. I also agree that Demeco looked much better late in the year than he did early in the year.
Still, I get the trade. First, Demeco is not a good blitzer nor is he strong in coverage (whether healthy or not his coverage skills have never been strong). In the 3-4, I think this creates a problem. Since Cushing is a great blitzer, it is important that the other ILB can drop effectively into coverage.
Beyond the differences with the 3-4 and 4-3 is the fact that the traditional MLB is an endangered species (similar to the traditional SS). The passing game is so prevalent and the specialty packages so central to weekly gameplans that players like Demeco are becoming marginalized. From a strictly X's and O's perspective, I think this trade makes a ton of sense. However, we'll see how the loss of their captain affects the team in reality. The loss of his leadership is something to be concerned about and something that can't be replaced with a mid round draft pick.
It's why I don't buy a jersey with a player's name on it, but one with my name instead. I'm a fan of the football team first. I'll have my favorite players and will root for them and all that, but it's because I want the TEAM to do well, not just the individual(s). Even AJ will not be a Texan some day, but I'll still be a Texans fan.
And maybe some of this wouldn't be so bad if they were getting something in return. So far, they've lost Winston, Briesel, Ryans, Mario, Allen, and they've got a 4th round pick and maybe a couple of supp. picks next year to show for it.
Plus, you thought Tim Tebow was a miracle worker? He ain't nothing compared to the miracle of Jacoby Jones still being on this team. How any of those guys are gone before him just doesn't translate to me.
How is it rediculous? It doesn't matter what he does in Philly, because unless he's doing it against the Texans, it neither helps or hurts them. He's gone. I with the ones who wish he was still here, he was one of my favorite players.
But he's gone and there is nothing the ordinary fan can do except move on. And ***** about here I suppose.
Because moving him was stupid, and the people who are positive with their reactions here (and especially, the ones who are so condescending towards people with negative reactions) will have their argument as to why this was a good deal shot to high heaven.
Newsflash: It DOES hurt us if he kicks ass in Philly, because he should have been kicking ass here for life.
Because moving him was stupid, and the people who are positive with their reactions here (and especially, the ones who are so condescending towards people with negative reactions) will have their argument as to why this was a good deal shot to high heaven.
Newsflash: It DOES hurt us if he kicks ass in Philly, because he should have been kicking ass here for life.
Well no, he's not worth a 1st AND 2nd and nobody would have given that for him, lol.
Ok ... why not a 2nd for this stud Mcmuffin ?
high salary player coming off injury plagued season coming off injury shortened season :wadepalm:
Just makes you wonder how the Texans only got a 4th for Ryans . I thought he'd be worth at least a 1st and a 2nd . They must have turned them better deals down .
Ok ... why not a 2nd for this stud Mcmuffin ?
Just makes you wonder how the Texans only got a 4th for Ryans . I thought he'd be worth at least a 1st and a 2nd . They must have turned them better deals down .
Keep being transparent.
Keep being a jitled teen who didn't get asked to the prom .
So what if he goes to Philly and kills the league, or ends up being forgotten because of poor play? Either case doesn't change the fact he is no longer a Texan. Players change teams all the time. Don't be surprised when one or more on that long list of FAs we have coming up next year leaves as well.
That's starting QB territory. No one would give two first day picks for a ILB. MAaaaaaybe a 1st OR a 2nd for a starting CB or pass rusher. But not for a guy that comes off the field after first down.
...and DeMeco's is one of the few Texans' jerseys I own so I'm not thrilled about this move either.
But apparently he doesn't fit Wade's system or Wade considers him readily replaceable.... otherwise, why wouldn't Wade leave him on the field for all three downs??
Yeh, I'm down to my Battle Red Dre Jersey, this is getting ridiculous.
I have to retire Meco's Jersey to the Sharper, Glenn, HWSNBN portion of my closet. I will put his near Glenn and no where near #8.1 since he is not worthy of bieng near Ryans.
Guess I will stick with AJ's Jerseys from now on, they better never cut or trade him regardless, he needs to retire a Texan hopefully that will be many moons from now, several SB's, and all 1,000 yard seasons.........
I cheer for the name on the front of the jersey not the back.
Meco was a fine player, but he is no longer a Texan. I don't care what he does at this point.
Just makes you wonder how the Texans only got a 4th for Ryans . I thought he'd be worth at least a 1st and a 2nd . They must have turned them better deals down .
I'm sure the players play for the love of the game, but they damned sure aren't above the money!!That's a pretty ****ty attitude. Why do they bother playing for you and your enjoyment? Why even care about what anybody on the team does while they're here if you're just going to toss them aside after they're done? If a player retires, they too are no longer Texans. Do we stop caring about them too?
What good is a team's success if you can't feel happy for and love the players that brought a team success?
DeMeco did nothing to deserve that type of attitude. If he was a piece of **** here or on his way out, I could understand that sentiment. Holy crap.
Lame.
Gonna be some slow walking and sad talking when the Texans trade 33 year old JJ Watt to OAK for a 1st round pick.
That's a pretty ****ty attitude. Why do they bother playing for you and your enjoyment? Why even care about what anybody on the team does while they're here?
What good is a team's success if you can't feel happy for and love the players that brought a team success?
Lame.
Your sig is almost the exact opposite of what Runner said earlier in the thread about the attitude regarding the players before and after being cut.
That's a pretty ****ty attitude. Why do they bother playing for you and your enjoyment? Why even care about what anybody on the team does while they're here if you're just going to toss them aside after they're done? If a player retires, they too are no longer Texans. Do we stop caring about them too?
What good is a team's success if you can't feel happy for and love the players that brought a team success?
DeMeco did nothing to deserve that type of attitude. If he was a piece of **** here or on his way out, I could understand that sentiment. Holy crap.
Lame.
I know that much, but I'm still watching them for my entertainment and there is no way I'll enjoy any team success if I'm not loving the players bringing my team success. It's the same way I could never be a Laker or Raider fan. Their organization and players are so unlikeable that even if they won a championship, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
There's something to be said about falling in love with the guys on the field too.
Just becuase you disagree with me does not mean I am lame nor do I have a ****ty attitude. I cheer for the Texans, I don't cheer for the players. Demeco is a player. Nothing more. He was a good player while here, but he did what was expected of him. He did a good job and was justly rewarded with his contract.
And for the record, players play for the money. They may say they are playing for the fans or the love of the game, but its all about the $. And there is nothing wrong with that. Players need to look out for themselves just like the teams do. I will cheer for the team LONG after Demco retires, whether he was a lifelong Texan or not.
In a lot of ways, it is protection of one's self from when a player leaves because he wants or the team jettisons some dude for a reason.
While players and the organization talk about the fans and all that jazz, at the end of the day players watch out themselves and their families (as they should) and teams watch out for the organizations success (money and winning both) as they should.
Both play for your enjoyment becasue its an industry which makes both players and the organization bunches of money; more than most fans can fathom. I enjoy football and enjoy being a Texans fan, but I in noway think that either group in the truest sense of the idea give a damn about me.
so why's this thread still here in the bullpen?
thought the mods had a new policy that a thread involving any ex-player gets moved within 3 hrs of the transaction happening? you know like mario or will someone just admit that was a once off petty, butthurt move cos they were pissed he left
And just because you have your right to an opinion doesn't mean I have the right to call that opinion or attitude ****ty.
I think your attitude of players being "nothing more" is ****ty.
I'll root for the Texans long after DeMeco or anyone goes. Hell, my existence as a Texans fan got cemented because of David Carr and we all know the situation with that and I'm still here. I'm not saying I'm only a player fan or anything, but I think that the sentiment you hold is totally cold, and that it's a good thing you're not an owner or a GM because nobody would want to play for you.
I mean, I don't get it. You don't yell out during games or say "Thattaboy, Cush!" or "There you go, Dre!". Nothing? You just sit there and clap/yell only after we're done with the game? How....hm....frigid.
The majority of this board is the exact opposite of what I say.
And given what I know about groupthink, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
4. I would actually make a fantastic GM. A GM has to be a person who looks at the big picture and sees what's best for the team. A good GM has to know the value of players and not get swayed by emotional attachment. It's tough when you have working relationships with them, but its the way of business. In a salary cap era, you simply cannot keep everyone you want. You refer to my attitude as Cold, but I think its Texans-centric. I want what's best for the team above the player. That's the way dynasties are built. That's the Steeler way. I don't like them, but I admire their success.
Anyway, this is probably a place we should agree to disagree!
Hell they could trade him right now for a 3rd rounder and 2 6th rounders and you of all people would act like the Texans management is genius for it as usual.