All Encompassing Carr Thread

[Texans_Chick]

Well, and a NFL quarterback wearing gloves on both hands in warm weather is evidence of some really odd stuff noodling around in his head.

I really believe this.

He started off with no gloves.

Then after he kept getting hit and fumbling, he went to one glove. (insert Michael Jackson teeeheeee heee here.) Now in actuality at the time, he wasn't fumbling any more than any other QB as a percentage of getting hit, but he was just getting hit a lot.

Then in Carolina, all of a sudden two gloves showed up. Mickey Mouse. Mime. JAZZ HANDS BABY! He claimed that it was so that he didn't have to lick his fingers to throw.

But there was something going wrong up in his brain. He had that fumbling thing in his noggin, and for good reasons. Because it seemed he lost control of the ball at just the wrong time.

No glove, one glove, two gloves. The result was all the same. Except for how damned goofy it looked. I mean, what quarterback thinks, you know, I can't wait to wear gloves because it gives me such great touch.

 

[Texans_Chick]

LOL Hashmarks sighting:

Carr to appear on 'This Old House'

Eh, I'm actually not a long-suffering Texans fan. Maybe Carr-suffering is a better term.

Suffering is having no team at all and just the Cowboys and Titans news in the local paper.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

I really believe this.

He started off with no gloves.

Then after he kept getting hit and fumbling, he went to one glove. (insert Michael Jackson teeeheeee heee here.) Now in actuality at the time, he wasn't fumbling any more than any other QB as a percentage of getting hit, but he was just getting hit a lot.

Then in Carolina, all of a sudden two gloves showed up. Mickey Mouse. Mime. JAZZ HANDS BABY! He claimed that it was so that he didn't have to lick his fingers to throw.

But there was something going wrong up in his brain. He had that fumbling thing in his noggin, and for good reasons. Because it seemed he lost control of the ball at just the wrong time.

No glove, one glove, two gloves. The result was all the same. Except for how damned goofy it looked. I mean, what quarterback thinks, you know, I can't wait to wear gloves because it gives me such great touch.

This is an example of someone thinking that it's the arrow and not the indian .

 

[mattieuk]

I burst out laughing in the bookmakers earlier when I saw this on Sky Sports News...

Have they seen tape of him?!?

Seriously though, Carr owes Palmer big time for arranging this.

 

[Koolaid Time]

LOL Hashmarks sighting:

Carr-to-appear-on--This-Old-House-

While this refers to Carr's "carpenter" comment, can you imagine David Carr safely handling a nail gun, a table saw, or any other type of power tool?

I can't....

 

[Double Barrel]

While this refers to Carr's "carpenter" comment, can you imagine David Carr safely handling a nail gun, a table saw, or any other type of power tool?

Would he be wearing the gloves in this scenario?

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Would he be wearing the gloves in this scenario?

He'd be like Tim Allen on Tool Time except in his tool pouch he'd have a hairdryer .

 

[Malloy]

Wearing the mittens, he wont fumble any of the power tools?

 

[Koolaid Time]

Wearing the mittens, he wont fumble any of the power tools?

With the mittens the blood wouldn't spurt as far when he shoots a nail through this hand with the nail gun.

 

[BSofA04]

TC,
Great article. In it, you mentioned...
"The Texans in 2007 were liberated once the reign of Carr ended. In one of those little known facts, the Carr-less Houston Texans last year only allowed 22 sacks. (27th in the league). "
I'm sure 22 sacks would get you better than 27th place. Am I reading that incorrectly?

 

[Second Honeymoon]

I burst out laughing in the bookmakers earlier when I saw this on Sky Sports News...

Have they seen tape of him?!?

Seriously though, Carr owes Palmer big time for arranging this.

How are the Newcastle faithful feeling about the Magpies being in danger of relegation? How the mighty have fallen....

 

[Texans_Chick]

TC,
Great article. In it, you mentioned...
"The Texans in 2007 were liberated once the reign of Carr ended. In one of those little known facts, the Carr-less Houston Texans last year only allowed 22 sacks. (27th in the league). "
I'm sure 22 sacks would get you better than 27th place. Am I reading that incorrectly?

Actually I mangled that up when I wrote it.

The Texans had the 27th LEAST number of sacks.

 

[Texans_Chick]

This is an example of someone thinking that it's the arrow and not the indian .

I must admit that when I see anyone putting with a belly putter, I think they are mentally weak.

Wearing two white gloves as quarterback in the NFL is worse than a belly putter in my universe of mentally weak things that people can do in sporting events.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

I must admit that when I see anyone putting with a belly putter, I think they are mentally weak.

Wearing two white gloves as quarterback in the NFL is worse than a belly putter in my universe of mentally weak things that people can do in sporting events.

TC ... I was'nt getting on you about Carr's woes . I was talking about Carr trying every gadget to fix what ails him .

 

[Vinny]

Carr and Palmer were friends.

Palmer is a very likeable guy and Carr is a known quantity. Carr said all the right stuff when Pendry came on (at first), but he really liked Palmer.

Palmer was probably too soft on Carr when he came into the league, and I don't think he did a good job of communicating the unwritten rules of being an NFL quarterback. You know, that maybe having your dad hanging around practice all the time is not cool.

Carr is a very good practice quarterback because he can't get hit and is more relaxed in his decision making, and won't make waves with the starter. Last year would have been an impossible year for Carr to be a backup to Eli because of Eli's own problems and the media market. This year, not a problem.

There's no sense clowning the Giants for picking up a backup quarterback. Given who is available and Carr's relationship with Palmer, it makes some sense for the Giants. But yeah, they have to hope he never sees the field.

Carr did have his best years under Palmer and I'm sure Palmer thinks that he may have been able to turn the corner with Carr but Capers pulled the rug out from under him. Carr knows his system and his language scheme so he won't have to learn from the ground up....he can come in up to speed so to speak. I'm not sure that is any great advantage since I don't think Carr is a NFL QB anymore than David Klingler was.

 

[Vinny]

If I remember right , Carr was gloating about how Pendry was going to take him to a different level that Palmer failed to achieve .

He was blaming Palmer's offense for his screwups . Even Hulk was making fun of Palmer making Carr throw over ladders . Hulk told the Panther fans that one reason Carr chose the Panthers was they would'nt mess with his motion .

I think Kubiak was the last straw . He also had a reputation as a QB guru like Palmer and when to gurus say your QB stinks ... well that's a trend .

Carr has always blamed everyone but himself. He took a shot at us when he said he was glad to be on a "real" team when he was with the Panthers (before he ruined that "real" team in a few short starts). Carr throwing anyone under the bus when he is miles away is nothing new.

 

[mattieuk]

How are the Newcastle faithful feeling about the Magpies being in danger of relegation? How the mighty have fallen....

Haha, about as sick as the Giants fans who've suddenly realise how screwed they are if Eli goes down!

 

[Maddict5]

Haha, about as sick as the Giants fans who've suddenly realise how screwed they are if Eli goes down!

give the messiah time to work his magic

 

[Maddict5]

classic headline (from the panthers writer on the AOL site that steph writes at)...its a midseason article after david played a few games for them

David Carr: They're Not Saying "Boo," They're Saying "Boo-urns"

i lol'ed for a solid 10 seconds when i read it

 

[Texans_Chick]

classic headline (from the panthers writer on the AOL site that steph writes at)...its a midseason article after david played a few games for them

David Carr: They're Not Saying "Boo," They're Saying "Boo-urns"

i lol'ed for a solid 10 seconds when i read it

Yeah, all of us who write about the NFL stuff over there are on a listserv of sorts to make sure that we don't duplicate topics. Very funny people over there, and sometimes the listserv is funnier than the website.

We all laughed at that headline.

The guy who is the primary Panther writer over there was never in the Carr will take over for Delhomme camp because he had been reading my stuff for a while.

But pretty much everybody who writes over there, with the exception of the Giants' writer, has a pretty negative view of Carr's potential. I mean, it is 2008, how long do you have to write about a guy's upside?

I picked and chose some Carr entries that I thought Giant fans might be interested in.

If you want to see some more blaming others stuff, and you don't care to lose about 8 minutes of your life, here's Carr on the YouTubes, post Texans, pre-Carolina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeeMRDJ3Xs

Basically, he says it will be good to throw from the upright position, and that he was just in a really bad situation when the Texans passed on Reggie Bush.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Yeah, all of us who write about the NFL stuff over there are on a listserv of sorts to make sure that we don't duplicate topics. Very funny people over there, and sometimes the listserv is funnier than the website.

We all laughed at that headline.

The guy who is the primary Panther writer over there was never in the Carr will take over for Delhomme camp because he had been reading my stuff for a while.

But pretty much everybody who writes over there, with the exception of the Giants' writer, has a pretty negative view of Carr's potential. I mean, it is 2008, how long do you have to write about a guy's upside?

I picked and chose some Carr entries that I thought Giant fans might be interested in.

If you want to see some more blaming others stuff, and you don't care to lose about 8 minutes of your life, here's Carr on the YouTubes, post Texans, pre-Carolina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeeMRDJ3Xs

Basically, he says it will be good to throw from the upright position, and that he was just in a really bad situation when the Texans passed on Reggie Bush.

What a joke Carr is. 'It's gonna be fun'. 'It's amazing what you can do when you don't have to lay down on your back to throw a ball'. What a JERK!!

If I saw this dude on the street I would call him a freaking loser and to get the freak out of Texas and stay out. That pansy ass loser needs an ass whoopin' something fierce.

I am so glad I have always thought this guy was a pile of dog crap...he proves me more and more correct daily.

 

[TexSon]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...as_pat&id=3292963&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

New article on ESPN with some choice quotes. ESPN also gets some digs in against Houston and Carolina.

Carr says it was his "California Cool" that was the impediment to his success, while also admitting that he didn't prepare well enough.

In hindsight, the 28-year-old Carr says he has it now: The California cool has to go. That's something guys from California have to work against,'' Carr said. "Sometimes, we make things look too easy. I thought I had the right attitude in Houston and Carolina, but I realize now that I didn't. I worked hard, but I didn't prepare myself well enough to give my teammates true confidence in me.''

ESPN intimates that Carolina fans are hillbilly yokels that disliked his "cool" as opposed to his play.

Then, his trademark California cool --wearing the glove, dropping the word "dude'' often in conversation and that shoulder-length hair -- started rubbing people in the locker room and in NASCAR land the wrong way.

When Carr was in Houston, Palmer was his quarterbacks coach. The two always had a good relationship, but Carr admitted he might not always have given Palmer his best.
...It's about preparing yourself and carrying yourself the right way. Those were the things Chris always was telling me in Houston, but I wasn't always listening. This time, I'm going to listen.''

Thanks Davey!

But wait, ESPN says it was actually all our fault!

But the shell shock of playing behind awful offensive lines in Houston was still with him.

Of course! The offensive line!

 

[Vinny]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...as_pat&id=3292963&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1
Carr says it was his "California Cool" that was the impediment to his success, while also admitting that he didn't prepare well enough.

Quote:
When Carr was in Houston, Palmer was his quarterbacks coach. The two always had a good relationship, but Carr admitted he might not always have given Palmer his best.
...It's about preparing yourself and carrying yourself the right way. Those were the things Chris always was telling me in Houston, but I wasn't always listening. This time, I'm going to listen.''

Thanks Davey!

how incredibly pathetic...he took the millions of dollars and a huge chunk of cap space from the hard working Texans fans and the team and now says he was too cool to give us his best. Unreal.

 

[Trap_Star]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...as_pat&id=3292963&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

New article on ESPN with some choice quotes. ESPN also gets some digs in against Houston and Carolina.

Carr says it was his "California Cool" that was the impediment to his success, while also admitting that he didn't prepare well enough.


ESPN intimates that Carolina fans are hillbilly yokels that disliked his "cool" as opposed to his play.





Thanks Davey!

But wait, ESPN says it was actually all our fault!

Of course! The offensive line!

wow...what a turd.

 

[Mr. White]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...as_pat&id=3292963&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

New article on ESPN with some choice quotes. ESPN also gets some digs in against Houston and Carolina.

Carr says it was his "California Cool" that was the impediment to his success, while also admitting that he didn't prepare well enough.


ESPN intimates that Carolina fans are hillbilly yokels that disliked his "cool" as opposed to his play.

Thanks Davey!

But wait, ESPN says it was actually all our fault!

Of course! The offensive line!

I just read this pathetic excuse of an article. Looks like the same lame California takes that we've been reading on this board for years.

I thought that Hulk75 was actually the writer, but this guy has decent grammar.

It might be the "California cool" attitude,the offensive line, the skill players, the defense, the local sportswriters and the whole fanbase.

We've been hearing it for years. I'll go with the most obvious answer....Carr isn't a good QB. Not here, not in Nascar country, and not in the media fishbowl of New York.

If it looks like Tim Couch and swims like Tim Couch.....

 

[Vinny]

If it looks like Tim Couch and swims like Tim Couch.....

Couch could play before his shoulder injury turned a decent QB with a mediocre arm into noodleman.

 

[Hervoyel]

A couple of things about David Carr are becoming impossible to miss or ignore. Whatever people thought of him as a quarterback, football player or a teammate they always consistently said he was a good person. People focused on his faith and on his merits as a husband and a father and what a....well "good person" he was.

While he was here and really for as long as I've known about David Carr's existence I can't remember him ever really saying a whole lot. He'd do interviews and say the standard things you hear in football player interviews. He'd answer a question about the game or whatever he was asked but he never really said a lot. His answers were vanilla and generic and good enough but they didn't say much about him. I just always accepted the presented reality that he was a good person.

The farther he slides down the NFL food chain the more he speaks and the more he speaks the lower my opinion of him gets. I can no longer deny that this guy has very little in common with the person we were sold as the face of the franchise. He's detached from reality, relatively greedy, arrogant, and undeniably lazy. He might be a good father but hell, it's easy to be a good father when you aren't doing much of anything else and you have millions of dollars to throw around. Anybody with an 8 million dollar bonus in his pocket who doesn't have a mean streak can hang a "good father" medal on their chest.

What an exceptionally disappointing individual he turned out to be.

 

[Hervoyel]

.....If it looks like Tim Couch and swims like Tim Couch.....

Tim Couch just called and demands you take that back. He worked harder trying (and failing) to come back after his shoulder injury than David Carr ever worked at anything in his entire life.

For the record, I think Tim has a point.

 

[Errant Hothy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...as_pat&id=3292963&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

New article on ESPN with some choice quotes. ESPN also gets some digs in against Houston and Carolina.

Carr says it was his "California Cool" that was the impediment to his success, while also admitting that he didn't prepare well enough.


ESPN intimates that Carolina fans are hillbilly yokels that disliked his "cool" as opposed to his play.




Thanks Davey!

But wait, ESPN says it was actually all our fault!

Of course! The offensive line!

All I have to say is...douche-bag.

 

[HoustonFrog]

I just read this pathetic excuse of an article. Looks like the same lame California takes that we've been reading on this board for years.

I thought that Hulk75 was actually the writer, but this guy has decent grammar.

It might be the "California cool" attitude,the offensive line, the skill players, the defense, the local sportswriters and the whole fanbase.

We've been hearing it for years. I'll go with the most obvious answer....Carr isn't a good QB. Not here, not in Nascar country, and not in the media fishbowl of New York.

If it looks like Tim Couch and swims like Tim Couch.....

You know I have made this point multiple times on this board when Carr comes up. Couch was on an expansion team with a bad line and horrible drafting and the guy didn't catch a break. Yet Carr gets every excuse. Never made sense.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

You know I have made this point multiple times on this board when Carr comes up. Couch was on an expansion team with a bad line and horrible drafting and the guy didn't catch a break. Yet Carr gets every excuse. Never made sense.

Couch played in Cleveland where the fans and the media have less patience and rarely homer for a guy that hasn't delivered the goods. We had guys lining up a mile long to homer for Carr and the only reason I come up with is....19-10. Kinda sad but that time is over....

david carr = douchebag

 

[Lucky]

Dated 11-26-07

OMG, my WORST freaking nightmare. David Carr to the Giants. Dude, are you on crack?

Geez, I guess I better head on over to the Giants board to see if any of this nonsense is going on over there. I will put a stop to it real fast.

I thought Hookem was going to stop this?

As David Carr might say, "Sorry, Dude. My bad."

 

[Hervoyel]

As David Carr might say, "Sorry, Dude. My bad."

In that "California Cool" way he has of saying stuff like that. That's why I hate that guy. So cool, so California.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

In that "California Cool" way he has of saying stuff like that. That's why I hate that guy. So cool, so California.

Yeah but he made bad QB play look easy .

 

[Double Barrel]

California fool is more like it...

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

California fool is more like it...

I know John Elway struggled for years with being cool .

Actually that's why QBs from Pennsylvania are leaders ... they are'nt cool just good . Here's a list off the top my head .

Marino
Montana
Jim Kelly
Unitas
Namath
Schaub

Maybe Carr needs to work in a coal mine .

 

[Rex King]

While he was here and really for as long as I've known about David Carr's existence I can't remember him ever really saying a whole lot. He'd do interviews and say the standard things you hear in football player interviews. He'd answer a question about the game or whatever he was asked but he never really said a lot. His answers were vanilla and generic and good enough but they didn't say much about him. I just always accepted the presented reality that he was a good person.

What an exceptionally disappointing individual he turned out to be.

It may be revisionist, but I can't recall ever hearing him personally take the blame for a loss or say he personally needed to do better while he was here. It would get kind of old in the 2-14 season, but he never seemed to take responsibility. Oh well.

 

[Blazing Arrow]

In that "California Cool" way he has of saying stuff like that. That's why I hate that guy. So cool, so California.

Not cool bra, not cool ....

 

[ChampionTexan]

Couch played in Cleveland where the fans and the media have less patience and rarely homer for a guy that hasn't delivered the goods. We had guys lining up a mile long to homer for Carr and the only reason I come up with is....19-10. Kinda sad but that time is over....

david carr = douchebag

Plus didn't Couch have certain Ryan Leaf-like qualities when interviewed by the media (Translation - Carr hid his doosheyness much better).

 

[Kaiser Toro]

David Carr is a pathetic blob of grackle turd. I hope that the New York media grill him and then runs back to California in tears. Friggin Freshole.

No more soft California QBs please.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

David Carr is a pathetic blob of grackle turd. I hope that the New York media grill him and then runs back to California in tears. Friggin Freshole.

No more soft California QBs please.

I can't wait to see 'Father Mullet' try to attend practices with Stalag Coughlin at the helm....or even at the games.

Giants Fan is just slightly above Philly Fan in the fan evolutionary scale and something tells me that Giants Fan and the media in general are gonna have a field day with Carr. I can see the headlines now.

Of Mice and Mittens
This Giant Carr Sucks
WTF? Carr is teh suxxorz!
You're Going Back To Cali
Boolander!!

 

[Tulip]

A couple of things about David Carr are becoming impossible to miss or ignore. Whatever people thought of him as a quarterback, football player or a teammate they always consistently said he was a good person. People focused on his faith and on his merits as a husband and a father and what a....well "good person" he was.

While he was here and really for as long as I've known about David Carr's existence I can't remember him ever really saying a whole lot. He'd do interviews and say the standard things you hear in football player interviews. He'd answer a question about the game or whatever he was asked but he never really said a lot. His answers were vanilla and generic and good enough but they didn't say much about him. I just always accepted the presented reality that he was a good person.

The farther he slides down the NFL food chain the more he speaks and the more he speaks the lower my opinion of him gets. I can no longer deny that this guy has very little in common with the person we were sold as the face of the franchise. He's detached from reality, relatively greedy, arrogant, and undeniably lazy. He might be a good father but hell, it's easy to be a good father when you aren't doing much of anything else and you have millions of dollars to throw around. Anybody with an 8 million dollar bonus in his pocket who doesn't have a mean streak can hang a "good father" medal on their chest.

What an exceptionally disappointing individual he turned out to be.

I never got the whole "classy" thing. Did members of the media just think that they really needed to say something nice of him - so they all decided on "classy"? It was such a weird adjective to use, because he always came across as someone who was very immature and had such a lack of personal responsibility that his comments made his coaches and teammates look bad whether he meant it or not. He took a lot of abuse (probably LESS than he deserved) by the media, but smiling through it is not indicative of classiness.

But it was the same on the field.

Not having the sense to get rid of the football DOES NOT EQUAL toughness.

Not taking media criticism to heart DOES NOT EQUAL classiness.

 

[Koolaid Time]

Tim Couch just called and demands you take that back. He worked harder trying (and failing) to come back after his shoulder injury than David Carr ever worked at anything in his entire life.

For the record, I think Tim has a point.

Too bad Tim got hooked up with that quack doctor/trainer and the resulting positive steroid tests...

 

[Hervoyel]

Too bad Tim got hooked up with that quack doctor/trainer and the resulting positive steroid tests...

Yeah, well the guy had a dream and it went seriously down the drain. I think he probably made a bad decision or two while trying to turn that around. It's not right of course but I can see the intent there. I can sympathize somewhat with athletes who have crossed the line while trying to recover from injury, at least more so than I can with guys who are just trying to find an edge.

I always wanted to see Couch succeed somewhere. I feel like he got the "dirty" end of the stick being picked by Cleveland. Expansion franchises should be given the Cleveland/Houston deal but I think there should be a rule in there that forbids them from drafting a QB in their first season of existence or that forces them to carry him on their practice squad in a special "untouchable" capacity for one year. Nobody should be allowed to start a rookie QB on an expansion team.

 

[ObsiWan]

Yeah, well the guy had a dream and it went seriously down the drain. I think he probably made a bad decision or two while trying to turn that around. It's not right of course but I can see the intent there. I can sympathize somewhat with athletes who have crossed the line while trying to recover from injury, at least more so than I can with guys who are just trying to find an edge.

I always wanted to see Couch succeed somewhere. I feel like he got the "dirty" end of the stick being picked by Cleveland. Expansion franchises should be given the Cleveland/Houston deal but I think there should be a rule in there that forbids them from drafting a QB in their first season of existence or that forces them to carry him on their practice squad in a special "untouchable" capacity for one year. Nobody should be allowed to start a rookie QB on an expansion team.

That should be common sense. But expansion teams (or even established teams on the rebound) who are trying to ensure there are butts in every seat often don't follow common sense. Instead they listen to the clamoring fans who want to see the over-hyped "savior" as soon as he gets off the bus.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Not having the sense to get rid of the football DOES NOT EQUAL toughness.

Just like Tex Cobb getting his butt whopped by Larry Holmes does'nt make him a boxxer .

 

[Wolf]

after reading the article, i take back,well I can't take back everything I have said about Carr. I bought into Carr's goodness, 1st I thought he could succeed as a QB, and then I bought into he was a nice person.

what comes to mind is crash davis from Bull durham

Crash Davis: Come on meat, show me that million dollar arm of yours cause I got a good idea about that five cent head.

http://www.quotegeek.com/index.php?action=viewcategory&categoryid=639

anyway as far as Carr
fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

I have been wrong but this one has got to take the cake on me being wrong, great day to start the morning

and for those that ever neg repped a poster for bashing Carr (you know who you are, you owe others a positive rep

Even thought I never (from what I remember) never neg repped anyone for bashing carr, I know I defended Carr back in the day and so I owe Second Honeymoon, Monarch(I think), SWTBound07,and probably Texan fight and a few others for doubting them

My apologizes

 

[Hardcore Texan]

In case you missed this little gem on TexansTalk.com front page:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=manytoblameforcarrharrin&prov=tsn&type=lgns

Carr and Harrington, however, don’t deserve all the blame. If you want to point fingers, also point them at the general managers who drafted them and the coaches who failed to develop them.

Making Carr the first-overall pick in the draft was former Texans GM Charley Casserly’s first mistake. Carr never should have gone that high. But failing to surround Carr with proper talent—particularly a reliable offensive line—was just as grievous an error.

As a rookie, Carr was sacked 76 times (an average of almost five per game), a single-season NFL record. In Carr’s five seasons in Houston, opponents sacked him 249 times.

Lions GM Matt Millen was responsible for drafting Harrington, who played inconsistently in Detroit but also didn’t have a great supporting cast.

“I’m not putting all of it on the quarterbacks,” says one AFC personnel man. “They were picked before they should have been, placed in positions they shouldn’t have been in, on teams that weren’t very good and in organizations that showcased them before they were ready.”

 

[b0ng]

In case you missed this little gem on TexansTalk.com front page:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=manytoblameforcarrharrin&prov=tsn&type=lgns

I love how none of these articles mention that the instant anybody not named David Carr stepped in to QB the offensive line played better. No supporting cast my ass.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

after reading the article, i take back,well I can't take back everything I have said about Carr. I bought into Carr's goodness, 1st I thought he could succeed as a QB, and then I bought into he was a nice person.

what comes to mind is crash davis from Bull durham

http://www.quotegeek.com/index.php?action=viewcategory&categoryid=639

anyway as far as Carr
fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

I have been wrong but this one has got to take the cake on me being wrong, great day to start the morning

and for those that ever neg repped a poster for bashing Carr (you know who you are, you owe others a positive rep

Even thought I never (from what I remember) never neg repped anyone for bashing carr, I know I defended Carr back in the day and so I owe Second Honeymoon, Monarch(I think), SWTBound07,and probably Texan fight and a few others for doubting them

My apologizes

dude, you don't owe anyone anthing. you were just a fan who believed in a guy and that guy let you down. you have nothing to apologize for.

we are all Texans fans and at the end of the day we just want our team to improve and cease making moves like the Carr drafting/resigning and the PBuc and Babin trades. RS is leading us out of the pits out of hell and hopefully with a little luck and hard work, we won't even remember the pitiful and pathetic era of David Carr.