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The Mock Draft thread - 2023

TheRealJoker said:
This staff has a lot of coaches who specialize in DL/pass rush. Kiffin, Burke and DeMeco. Cesaire did a good job with what he had last season imo. Imagine if they added their “Bosa” in Will Anderson… would definitely add some teeth to that defense.
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Add Anderson and Sanders in Rd. 1 then add Zach Allen/Ward in FA the defense would go from really bad to successful very quickly.

Add Bradbury/ Minshew/McKinnon on offense and draft rds 2-5 on offense would be awesome. I'm coming around to drafting Dell in the 3rd rather than Hyatt in the 1st.

Draft the long term QB in 2024.
 
I really want Will Anderson with our 1st pick. But, if the Texans decide that Young is a franchise QB & take him, they can still draft a lot of quality defensive players in this draft & upgrade the offensive line. I took Tashawn Manning (RG) with the last pick. He's a mountain of a man, extremely strong, but not very mobile. He's a brick wall inside the booth that can't be moved. He stonewalled Jalen Carter (by himself) all day long in the Georgia/Kentucky game.

  • 2.
    Bryce Young
    QB Alabama

  • 12.
    Myles Murphy
    EDGE Clemson

  • 33.
    John Michael Schmitz
    OC Minnesota

  • 65.
    Mazi Smith
    DT Michigan

  • 90.
    Jack Campbell
    LB Iowa
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  • 104.
    Will McDonald IV
    EDGE Iowa State

  • 129.
    Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
    CB TCU
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  • 138.
    Roschon Johnson
    RB Texas

  • 188.
    PJ Mustipher
    DT Penn State

  • 201.
    Atonio Mafi
    OG UCLA

  • 203.
    Gervarrius Owens
    S Houston

  • 207.
    Shaka Heyward
    LB Duke

  • 239.
    Tashawn Manning
    OG Kentucky
 
TheRealJoker said:
This staff has a lot of coaches who specialize in DL/pass rush. Kiffin, Burke and DeMeco. Cesaire did a good job with what he had last season imo. Imagine if they added their “Bosa” in Will Anderson… would definitely add some teeth to that defense.
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Hey RealJoker…..I believe your post #51 is corrupted. It seizes up on that post and will not complete loading. If any of the “Staff Members” see this email, maybe they can remove that post. All I see is code or an extremely long link.
 
Hottoddie said:
I really want Will Anderson with our 1st pick. But, if the Texans decide that Young is a franchise QB & take him, they can still draft a lot of quality defensive players in this draft & upgrade the offensive line. I took Tashawn Manning (RG) with the last pick. He's a mountain of a man, extremely strong, but not very mobile. He's a brick wall inside the booth that can't be moved. He stonewalled Jalen Carter (by himself) all day long in the Georgia/Kentucky game.

  • 2.
    Bryce Young
    QB Alabama

  • 12.
    Myles Murphy
    EDGE Clemson

  • 33.
    John Michael Schmitz
    OC Minnesota

  • 65.
    Mazi Smith
    DT Michigan

  • 90.
    Jack Campbell
    LB Iowa
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  • 104.
    Will McDonald IV
    EDGE Iowa State

  • 129.
    Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
    CB TCU
    trade icon
  • 138.
    Roschon Johnson
    RB Texas

  • 188.
    PJ Mustipher
    DT Penn State

  • 201.
    Atonio Mafi
    OG UCLA

  • 203.
    Gervarrius Owens
    S Houston

  • 207.
    Shaka Heyward
    LB Duke

  • 239.
    Tashawn Manning
    OG Kentucky
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Very solid and would set the team up well for adding play makers to the team in 2024.
 
beerlover said:
Ryan Wilson of CBS Sports just came out with his two round mock and have no problem with this outcome.
02. Bryce Young QB
12. Jordan Addison WR
33. Darnell Wright OT

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...round-lions-and-seahawks-have-four-picks/amp/
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Small QB (5-9 @ 185 lbs), small WR (6-0 @ 175 lbs), and a mountain of a RT, whom I really like, but would be replacing Howard…..who may actually be getting an extension.

I’d have a tough time with these picks.
 
Texansphan said:
No D in the first 3 picks?🤔
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Tough crowd.
Bryce Young alone is a better pick at more important position than first three, together from Texan 2022 Draft.
I’m not the biggest fan of Addison, regardless he would be dynamic weapon for Bryce. He can do more things and create on his own better than Hyatt, Johnston or Njigba only Zay Flowers is a better separator but slighter of frame. Suppose you & OptimisticTexan (huge Tennessee fans) see no problem with Darnell Wright correct? Reminds me of Duane Brown. Except he is a dominant right tackle. PS: I’ve seen Wright as the Chargers selection @ 21. RT has been Achilles Heel!
 
beerlover said:
Tough crowd.
Bryce Young alone is a better pick at more important position than first three, together from Texan 2022 Draft.
I’m not the biggest fan of Addison, regardless he would be dynamic weapon for Bryce. He can do more things and create on his own better than Hyatt, Johnston or Njigba only Zay Flowers is a better separator but slighter of frame. Suppose you & OptimisticTexan (huge Tennessee fans) see no problem with Darnell Wright correct? Reminds me of Duane Brown. Except he is a dominant right tackle. PS: I’ve seen Wright as the Chargers selection @ 21. RT has been Achilles Heel!
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I really like Darnell Wright, but it appears the Texans are sold on keeping Howard. That moves my focus to OC and RG in this draft. I’d also keep another 49’er, (C- Brendel) who’ll be on the FA market…..if he doesn’t re-sign, on the radar.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I really like Darnell Wright, but it appears the Texans are sold on keeping Howard. That moves my focus to OC and RG in this draft. I’d also keep another 49’er, (C- Brendel) who’ll be on the FA market…..if he doesn’t re-sign, on the radar.
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Howard best fit is RG but has been forced to play out of his natural NFL position due to roster needs. Agree most definitely, upgrading Center but via 2023 draft class, deep enough to pull starter in 4th/5th rd. Brendel is turning 31, played in all 20 games @ Center with only limited experience before at Center position. Texans have the cap space but would prefer to spend on building a young nucleus around franchise QB. Giving them long term continuity. Getting a franchise OT in 2nd is ideal, imo. Would consider other options #12 for sure, but franchise QB & OT is what Texans should be focused on which is reason I said would not have a problem with it. Instead of Addison, be ok changing it to Hyatt, more of a straight line down field boundry threat with plus hands, then bet you like it more :koolaid:
 
I decided to try the PFF mock database, and trade as much as I could to put me in position to get the guys I wanted.

I think I did ok.
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I traded back into this years draft, just to say I took Mr. Irrelevant.
 
beerlover said:
Tough crowd.
Bryce Young alone is a better pick at more important position than first three, together from Texan 2022 Draft.
I’m not the biggest fan of Addison, regardless he would be dynamic weapon for Bryce. He can do more things and create on his own better than Hyatt, Johnston or Njigba only Zay Flowers is a better separator but slighter of frame. Suppose you & OptimisticTexan (huge Tennessee fans) see no problem with Darnell Wright correct? Reminds me of Duane Brown. Except he is a dominant right tackle. PS: I’ve seen Wright as the Chargers selection @ 21. RT has been Achilles Heel!
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Addison frame issues are a problem for me Love mme some Wright. He's one of the best OL in this draft. I don't think he lasts until 2-32 and I prefer Schmitz at 1-12.
 
beerlover said:
Tough crowd.
Bryce Young alone is a better pick at more important position than first three, together from Texan 2022 Draft.
I’m not the biggest fan of Addison, regardless he would be dynamic weapon for Bryce. He can do more things and create on his own better than Hyatt, Johnston or Njigba only Zay Flowers is a better separator but slighter of frame. Suppose you & OptimisticTexan (huge Tennessee fans) see no problem with Darnell Wright correct? Reminds me of Duane Brown. Except he is a dominant right tackle. PS: I’ve seen Wright as the Chargers selection @ 21. RT has been Achilles Heel!
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I'm almost convinced someone else is going to trade for the #1 pick and they're going QB which leaves Will Anderson available for the Texans - and I find it difficult to believe they will pass him up.
 
Texansphan said:
I'm almost convinced someone else is going to trade for the #1 pick and they're going QB which leaves Will Anderson available for the Texans - and I find it difficult to believe they will pass him up.
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Here’s easy answer, you wine and dine Jalen, prepare to select him as DeMeco Ryan’s signature stamp on Texans defensive rebuild. Let duh bears chew on that lol: Lovie too:shades:
 
beerlover said:
Frame issues are a theme throughout this draft. Starting @ the top.

Wright is on the opposite side of spectrum, his size leans him as right side only protector (late 1st/early 2nd fair).
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Yep he looks like a much better version of Jawaan Taylor from the Jags to me.

A team like the Bengals/Bills are going to have a hard time not picking him late in the 1st rd.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yep he looks like a much better version of Jawaan Taylor from the Jags to me.

A team like the Bengals/Bills are going to have a hard time not picking him late in the 1st rd.
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Brugler grades Wright in-line with where Texans select #33 all depends when and where the run on position starts. End of 1st early 2nd is historically normal for both good & bad teams.


37. Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee (6-5, 342)
An undraftable prospect a year ago, Darnell Wright flipped the script as a senior by moving to right tackle and producing impressive tape (including a standout performance against Will Anderson Jr.). He will get himself in trouble when he sacrifices technique for his nasty play style, but he blocks with extraordinary power and torque and stays square in pass protection.
 
I could definitely get excited about a draft like this.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/
You bring in a vet QB to compete with Mills if Hooker isn't quite ready to go. The extra time on the sideline will allow Hooker time to better absorb the playbook while the team gels.
I really don't think Jack Campbell falls this low though.
EDIT- Shoot, it didn't come up. Okay, from memory:-
#2 Jalen Carter
#12 Tyree Wilson
#33 Hendon Hooker
#65 Luke Wypler C
#73 Jack Campbell LB
#101 A.T. Perry WR
#133 Roschon Johnson RB
#174 Demarco Hellams S
#191 G ( out of memory) 😄
 
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Here's one I did today and I like the overall result:

2. QB - C.J. Stroud
12. WR - Quentin Johnston
33. LB/EDGE - Drew Sanders
65. IOL - Steve Avila
73. LB - Jack Campbell
104. S - Sydney Brown
138. RB - Tyjae Spears
188. WR - Jonathan Mingo
201. CB - Jakorian Bennett
203. WR/TE - Elijah Higgins
207. LB - Aubrey Miller, Jr.
239. DT - Moro Ojomo
 
BullRushTX said:
Here's one I did today and I like the overall result:

2. QB - C.J. Stroud
12. WR - Quentin Johnston
33. LB/EDGE - Drew Sanders
65. IOL - Steve Avila
73. LB - Jack Campbell
104. S - Sydney Brown
138. RB - Tyjae Spears
188. WR - Jonathan Mingo
201. CB - Jakorian Bennett
203. WR/TE - Elijah Higgins
207. LB - Aubrey Miller, Jr.
239. DT - Moro Ojomo
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Stroud could do type of things Slowik wants, ball control, accuracy underneath arm to take deep shots and measured designed runs.
Very LB intense. All three bring something different and would certainly shore up run defense.
Steve Avila could be a marquee NFL Center. Both power @ the point well as good feet to pull in running game.
Love both Sydney Brown & Tyjae Spears.
 
I loved how both Brown and Spears looked at the Senior Bowl. Explosive players. I'm hoping Higgins can turn into a Shannon Sharpe style TE. A starting LB core of Harris, Campbell, and Sanders would look pretty good. I think Miller will develop nicely.
 
The I traded down a lot, somebody has to stick, and a ton of draft capital to move up in next year's draft mock draft

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Jeremiah has Jordan Addison going to the Texans at #12, and I've seen a number of mocks with this pick. I went back and looked at Addison's Pitt tape, and I really like him. He has really great hands. He can make defenders miss in space. Addison is a lot like John Metchie, but with more wiggle and a tad more explosion.

But WR1 @ #12? I don't see it. That's a Garrett Wilson type player that can do all the things that Addison can do, but run past and jump over NFL defenders. Addison's best comp maybe Pittsburgh's Diontae Johnson. A guy that's going to catch a lot of short passes and pickup 1st downs, but not make a lot of explosive plays.
 
BullRushTX said:
I loved how both Brown and Spears looked at the Senior Bowl. Explosive players. I'm hoping Higgins can turn into a Shannon Sharpe style TE. A starting LB core of Harris, Campbell, and Sanders would look pretty good. I think Miller will develop nicely.
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Much as I would support Sanders pick #33 recommend changing pick to premier DT to help keep LB’s clean and stuff the run (Eagles really pushed (QB) narrative forward in my mind).
Can't see DeMeco passive @ line of attack, not coming from that stout 49er front. Hard to pass on Carter if Bears get cute and jump back couple picks thinking he will still be there? However, if that does happen, want to grab a sick bad ass DT no later than #33 maybe even #12 who could surprise and challenge Carter as top run stuffing interior defender.
 
beerlover said:
Much as I would support Sanders pick #33 recommend changing pick to premier DT to help keep LB’s clean and stuff the run (Eagles really pushed (QB) narrative forward in my mind).
Can't see DeMeco passive @ line of attack, not coming from that stout 49er front. Hard to pass on Carter if Bears get cute and jump back couple picks thinking he will still be there? However, if that does happen, want to grab a sick bad ass DT no later than #33 maybe even #12 who could surprise and challenge Carter as top run stuffing interior defender.
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I'd be okay Siaki Ika or Mazi Smith at the top of the 2nd or maybe Karl Brooks in a later round. Ika is so big and strong I think he'd eat a lot of space on the line.
 
slow around here just burning time until the combine.

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Traded from #2 to #11 with Titans still pulled Stroud (also Titans 1st in next years draft and 2nd round pick in 2025) with #12 pick his LT (moving Paris to the right side unless trade opportunity comes up for Tunsil, just gives you options).

Traded back up into the first for Bijan Robinson, right in front of Philly, for what amounted to a 6th round pick.

41st pick (from Titans) selected Texans future starting Center Schmitz, considered #1 in class at real value.

Traded up with Cowboys our 3rd and two 6th's to address pass rush with a very mature yet still just scratching surface of his toolbox Keion White, Georgia Tech.

TE position filled with the most dominant run blocker, possibly a future LT? Darnell Washington out of Georgia.

Michael Wilson is a WR you've probably heard mentioned but don't know a lot about out of Stanford. Great length, speed and smarts who is finally healthy and a solid #2 after trading down with the Chargers (who I hated doing this too but besides Wilson added some key depth players to makeover roster, especially run and return game).

Added slot CB Clark Phillips who could start right away end of 3rd rd.

Traded back up again using draft capital gained earlier from trading down to secure OptimisticTexans favorite prospect in the draft. What a great situation for Hendon Hooker to fully recover and become the back-up behind Stroud.

Love all three of these 5th rd. picks. Went all in on the offense and returned (literally) great great value to support offensively. WR Mims, Oklahoma. Returner/3rd down RB option and also from Oklahoma, Eric Gray. Last but not least 3rd on the RB depth chart behind Robinson and Pierce another possible bell cow RB in Abanikanda, Pitt. This draft is a total refit of Texan backfield in mirror image of the 49ers. It's a vision of how a team can convert and respond in one year from a bottom tier roster to mid-level minimum. Lets not forget this also leaves Texans with 3 first round picks in 2024 NFL Draft. The Texans own, Tennessee's first and the Browns first rounder as well. Dare I say, Playoffs in two years under DeMeco Ryans coaching system.

:wesmantexanfan:
 
Rich Schmidt said:
No, hell no. Don't give up a penny to move one slot. We can do BPA because we have holes at QB, DL, EDGE, WR,...
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FTA: "Texans receive pick 1, Bears receive picks 2, 12, 65, 104, and a 2024 first-round selection"

I agree I wouldn't give up anything to move from #2 to #1, but I was astonished by the absurd suggestion of giving up three 1st round picks, a 3rd and a 4th to move up one slot. That would be up there among the worst draft trades in NFL history.
 
BullRushTX said:
FTA: "Texans receive pick 1, Bears receive picks 2, 12, 65, 104, and a 2024 first-round selection"

I agree I wouldn't give up anything to move from #2 to #1, but I was astonished by the absurd suggestion of giving up three 1st round picks, a 3rd and a 4th to move up one slot. That would be up there among the worst draft trades in NFL history.
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I'm just considering what we could get for number 2 from Carolina.

9, both round 2s and 2024 round 1. 2025 round 1.
 
badboy said:
I'm just considering what we could get for number 2 from Carolina.

9, both round 2s and 2024 round 1. 2025 round 1.
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To get an offer like that the Texans would have to get a serious FA to put to rest any notion of them picking a QB at #2.
Hmm...🤔
 
Texansphan said:
To get an offer like that the Texans would have to get a serious FA to put to rest any notion of them picking a QB at #2.
Hmm...🤔
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Nah.. Hook in round 2. Can't you see fans making hooks with fingers or hands? Hook index fingers of both hands or with other fans!
 
Finally did a PFF mock. In this, I trade up for Bryce Young. I made it fair for both sides, giving up #2, #73, and the 2024 1st from Cleveland. This is the price for Cal & Nick not firing Lovie earlier.

Draft points = Texans #2 (2600) + #73 (225) + 2024 Browns 1st (700) for Bears #1 (3000)

I trade down a couple of times from #12, and still get the player I want. First, I get #18 & #55 for #12 & #138. Then I trade down from #18 to #25, picking up a late 3rd & 4th. At #25, I take Georgia Tech DE Keion White. At #12, Lions select Brian Branch, and at #18, the Giants select Lukas Van Ness.

Draft points = Texans #12 (1200) + #138 (37) for Lions #18 (900) + #55 (350)
Draft Points = Texans thru Lions #18 (900) for Giants #25 (720) + #89 (145) + #128 (44)

I'm concerned the Bengals or Eagles select the next player I'm targeting. But I sit tight and get my starting Center, John Michael Schmitz at #33.

I'm looking at the following players for my next few picks. DL Keeanu Benton, WR Rashee Rice, and TE Tucker Kraft. I receive some weak offers at #55, but I'm definitely taking the pick. I go Benton, as he is higher on my board and I feel more likely to go before #65.

At #65, I get an offer to move forn to the Patriots at #76. It's not worth the risk to pickup a mid 4th, so I select Rashee Rice.

Green Bay takes Tucker Kraft in front of me @ #78. I switch gears and go defense. SS/WLB JL Skinner is selected at #89.

Early 4th round RB worked well for the Texans in 2022. So I went with that, taking Chase Brown from Illinois.

Tried to select Purdue TE Payne Durham at #128. But he was not in the PFF database. So when you see Luke Schoonmaker, that's really Durham.


One player left off my top 100 list at #179. SFA Edge BJ Thompson, a non-invite to the combine.

KC makes an offer for the pick @ #188. I counter with offering 2 6ths, and a 7th for a 2024 4th. Deal is done.

My last pick is at #203, selecting TCU LB Dee Winters, who interviewed with the Texans at the Senior Bowl.
 

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Lucky said:
Finally did a PFF mock. In this, I trade up for Bryce Young. I made it fair for both sides, giving up #2, #73, and the 2024 1st from Cleveland. This is the price for Cal & Nick not firing Lovie earlier.
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Lol. You mean after Miami was penalized and had to forfeit their first and fourth rounder you wanted the Texans to fire Lovie before the year was over and potentially put the a spot light on them for an investigation to look into if they were throwing the game?

This is after being named in the Brian Flores discrimination law suit.

This is after the Watson saga where the Texans were exposed for renting out a room for Watson to get massages.

This is after the franchise who had to settle with Buzbee and his clients.

This, the city of Houston who has forever been the red headed step child (no offense gingers - love your women) in all major sports and will continue to be.

This, at the point and time it is very risky in the eyes of the public to fire a black head coach after one year and not be labeled racist. (Which we know happened immediately after.)

This, after Brandon Cooks said he was going to expose the Texans when not traded.

Man, arm chair GMs are unique creatures.

I don’t see the benefit of the first pick would be if the Texans would open that can of worms.

Especially not for the smallest NFL QB who people hope will be the next Russell Wilson.
 
TexansBull said:
Lol. You mean after Miami was penalized and had to forfeit their first and fourth rounder you wanted the Texans to fire Lovie before the year was over and potentially put the a spot light on them for an investigation to look into if they were throwing the game?

This is after being named in the Brian Flores discrimination law suit.

This is after the Watson saga where the Texans were exposed for renting out a room for Watson to get massages.

This is after the franchise who had to settle with Buzbee and his clients.

This, the city of Houston who has forever been the red headed step child (no offense gingers - love your women) in all major sports and will continue to be.

This, at the point and time it is very risky in the eyes of the public to fire a black head coach after one year and not be labeled racist. (Which we know happened immediately after.)

This, after Brandon Cooks said he was going to expose the Texans when not traded.

Man, arm chair GMs are unique creatures.

I don’t see the benefit of the first pick would be if the Texans would open that can of worms.

Especially not for the smallest NFL QB who people hope will be the next Russell Wilson.
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That's a lot of writing while forgetting the Texans fired Lovie one week later.

Buzbee? Massages? Redheads? :idonno:

I guess you thought you were on a roll.
 
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