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So it's not true that he interviewed for 7 teams in the last two years? Don't you wonder why they turned him down?

That doesn't mean we shouldn't interview him.



& 12 weeks ago Watson was professing his love for O'Brien.

Maybe he is not a great interview....doesn't mean he can't coach. I know people who are GREAT at interviews....but suck at doing the actual job.

You do understand Watson is not the type to talk bad about his coach in public?
What do you expect him to say? "O'Brien is a hot head, Stubborn, A-hole"?

VERY few star athletes are going to trash the coach in interviews.
 
AS ALWAYS, Black HC candidates have to deal EVERYTHING in their past being brought up, while white candidates don't deal with the same scrutiny. "Sources" say Eric B. just stands around while Andy Reid does all the work. A DUI 20 years ago. Colorado having a BAD offense, while acknowledging CU had HORRIBLE talent. Just maybe, Eric B. learned from Andy Reid how to win. Mahomes has RAVED about Eric B. as have other players.

This is a hatchet job people are attempting on Eric B.. The reason Watson is high on Eric B. is because of what Mahomes has told Watson in private.
Dumb!
 
Hey guys, I am a Panther fan coming in peace. I have recently started writing about the Texans for Toro Times, which is Houston's Fansided website. I simply do this because I love it, and writing about sports is one of my favorite hobbies. Anyways, I wrote this piece a week or two previewing five candidates that may be in consideration for the Texans. I want to make it clear that this is NOT a list of who I think the five best candidates are, I tried to put together a diverse list with coaches from different backgrounds.

I started reading this thread and will be the first to admit I wasn't quite aware of some of Bieniemy's personality concerns. I see you guys seem to be high on Daboll and Saleh, neither are on the list but I think both would be great hires. If you don't mind, just check out this article. I hope to bring an unbiased, outsiders perspective to the Texans as a franchise. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 
Hey guys, I am a Panther fan coming in peace. I have recently started writing about the Texans for Toro Times, which is Houston's Fansided website. I simply do this because I love it, and writing about sports is one of my favorite hobbies. Anyways, I wrote this piece a week or two previewing five candidates that may be in consideration for the Texans. I want to make it clear that this is NOT a list of who I think the five best candidates are, I tried to put together a diverse list with coaches from different backgrounds.

I started reading this thread and will be the first to admit I wasn't quite aware of some of Bieniemy's personality concerns. I see you guys seem to be high on Daboll and Saleh, neither are on the list but I think both would be great hires. If you don't mind, just check out this article. I hope to bring an unbiased, outsiders perspective to the Texans as a franchise. Any advice is greatly appreciated.


Great article. I've been a Joe Brady fan but didn't get on the bandwagon until it became apparent that Jim Harbaugh was going to stay in Michigan. I'm not exactly excited about an NFL retread or a coach from the defensive side of the ball at this time. Based on the direction NFL offenses are taking.....gaining a young bright mind in the passing game is what I'm looking for.

Joe Brady's Panther's offense could've been much better and more dynamic with a full season from Christian McCaffrey. Having CM on the field certainly would've helped hide Bridgewater's arm strength since his presence would've opened the short to mid-range passing attack.
 
Great article. I've been a Joe Brady fan but didn't get on the bandwagon until it became apparent that Jim Harbaugh was going to stay in Michigan. I'm not exactly excited about an NFL retread or a coach from the defensive side of the ball at this time. Based on the direction NFL offenses are taking.....gaining a young bright mind in the passing game is what I'm looking for.

Joe Brady's Panther's offense could've been much better and more dynamic with a full season from Christian McCaffrey. Having CM on the field certainly would've helped hide Bridgewater's arm strength since his presence would've opened the short to mid-range passing attack.
I think the weirdest thing to me is that Brady "chose" Teddy Bridgewater as his QB. They were familiar with each other in New Orleans but as a Panther fan I would have much rather taken a much cheaper flier on someone like Mariota or Winston. But I definitely think Brady's ceiling could be insane. He's showcased some super creative play calling this year. What's wild is that Teddy has had the ball in his hands down one score or less for the final possession eight times this year and the Panthers have lost all eight times. So the coaches are putting the team in position to win for most games. Brady with Watson could be downright scary - but I do think it may be smart to give him another year or two. But thank you for the kind words!
 
I think the weirdest thing to me is that Brady "chose" Teddy Bridgewater as his QB. They were familiar with each other in New Orleans but as a Panther fan I would have much rather taken a much cheaper flier on someone like Mariota or Winston. But I definitely think Brady's ceiling could be insane. He's showcased some super creative play calling this year. What's wild is that Teddy has had the ball in his hands down one score or less for the final possession eight times this year and the Panthers have lost all eight times. So the coaches are putting the team in position to win for most games. Brady with Watson could be downright scary - but I do think it may be smart to give him another year or two. But thank you for the kind words!

Texans could only wish to have a Christian McCaffrey but the Panthers also got to see it play out as to what CM means to the overall success of their offense. Having CM on the field for the majority of those 8 drives sure would've made them less predictable since he can hurt defenses by both running and receiving the ball.

In regards to the Texans, they have no running game and kicked Deandre Hopkins out the door. Could you imagine what Panthers fans would've done if ownership/GM shipped McCaffrey out the door for David Johnson + 100% of his contract, a RD2 pick and a RD4 in the next draft?
 
Hey guys, I am a Panther fan coming in peace. I have recently started writing about the Texans for Toro Times, which is Houston's Fansided website. I simply do this because I love it, and writing about sports is one of my favorite hobbies. Anyways, I wrote this piece a week or two previewing five candidates that may be in consideration for the Texans. I want to make it clear that this is NOT a list of who I think the five best candidates are, I tried to put together a diverse list with coaches from different backgrounds.

I started reading this thread and will be the first to admit I wasn't quite aware of some of Bieniemy's personality concerns. I see you guys seem to be high on Daboll and Saleh, neither are on the list but I think both would be great hires. If you don't mind, just check out this article. I hope to bring an unbiased, outsiders perspective to the Texans as a franchise. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Good read. Campbell out of Iowa is a good find. The other guys, pretty much what everyone else is saying. Felt kinda stale.
 
well they are not going for the college coaches...

So through John McClain and other local media, Texans fans have been told that the organization is going back to the "traditional" GM-in-charge model of running football operations. McClain has very pointedly and specifically stated many times on air and in writings that Cal was going to hire a GM, and then that GM would be empowered to select/hire his Head Coach choice. And the GM would have the power/control over the roster. Right? Right.

But then this December 30 tweet from McClain:
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL Dec 30, 2020
Texans won’t be hiring a college head coach, if anyone’s wondering.

Tell me, then, how McClain or anybody in the Texans organization can at this time know that they won't be considering any college coaches for the Head Coach position when they just told us the newly hired GM would be in charge of selecting/hiring his own head coach and they haven't even interviewed their next GM, yet? How could they know if they haven't even talked to the guy they say is making the hire? Clairvoyance? Doubtful.

Perhaps the HC decision was made many months ago by Cal-boy & Co., and the Korn Ferry stuff and the so-called committee are all just a bunch of window dressing to give the appearance a thorough search was made by many highly qualified people -- instead of the owner's son.

Are they lying now, or were they lying then? :thinking:
 
So through John McClain and other local media, Texans fans have been told that the organization is going back to the "traditional" GM-in-charge model of running football operations. McClain has very pointedly and specifically stated many times on air and in writings that Cal was going to hire a GM, and then that GM would be empowered to select/hire his Head Coach choice. And the GM would have the power/control over the roster. Right? Right.

But then this December 30 tweet from McClain:
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL Dec 30, 2020
Texans won’t be hiring a college head coach, if anyone’s wondering.

Tell me, then, how McClain or anybody in the Texans organization can at this time know that they won't be considering any college coaches for the Head Coach position when they just told us the newly hired GM would be in charge of selecting/hiring his own head coach and they haven't even interviewed their next GM, yet? How could they know if they haven't even talked to the guy they say is making the hire? Clairvoyance? Doubtful.

Perhaps the HC decision was made many months ago by Cal-boy & Co., and the Korn Ferry stuff and the so-called committee are all just a bunch of window dressing to give the appearance a thorough search was made by many highly qualified people -- instead of the owner's son.

Are they lying now, or were they lying then? :thinking:
They could have set standards but still give free reign to a newly selected GM. Having nfl experience could be a requirement. After all OB was a college head coach who failed miserably.
 
Perhaps the HC decision was made many months ago by Cal-boy & Co., and the Korn Ferry stuff and the so-called committee are all just a bunch of window dressing to give the appearance a thorough search was made by many highly qualified people -- instead of the owner's son.
Even if they made a decision, that guy has to say “yes” & if he’s currently employed in the NFL he couldn’t.

Unless you’re saying they already decided a currently unemployed HCcis our next HC & they’re just waiting to hire a GM for optics.

I do agree however, McClain is talking out his arse.
 
They could have set standards but still give free reign to a newly selected GM. Having nfl experience could be a requirement. After all OB was a college head coach who failed miserably.
Plenty of college HCs with experience. Marvin Lewis, Herm Edwards, & guys like that.
 
Even if they made a decision, that guy has to say “yes” & if he’s currently employed in the NFL he couldn’t.

Unless you’re saying they already decided a currently unemployed HCcis our next HC & they’re just waiting to hire a GM for optics.

I do agree however, McClain is talking out his arse.
Their HC will have been chosen prior to the GM position being filled. The GM will be chosen only if he agrees with the choice of the HC. As I've said before, the search committee routine is just one big facade. Just the same ole same ole.
 
I know Henry is the primary reason behind the Titans' two wins against the Texans. Any opinions on Titans' OC, Arthur Smith? The play calling and scheme? With their LT out, David Quessenberry has started five games and they still were able to run the ball.
 
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I know Henry is the primary reason behind the Titans' two wins against the Texans. Any opinions on Titans' OC, Arthur Smith? The play calling and scheme? With their LT out, David Quessenberry has started five games and they still were able to run the ball.
Anybody see the Titans punter today?

I’m not giving anyone a, “We need to get this guy” grade based on how they did against our defense.
 
Anybody see the Titans punter today?

I’m not giving anyone a, “We need to get this guy” grade based on how they did against our defense.
How about their playoff run last year? How about the work he has done with Tannehill? The Titans defense might be just as bad as the Texans, but they still won 11 games.

For the WCO fans, he is basically running the Shanny/Kubiak offense that was implemented by Matt LaFleur.

I wouldn’t just evaluate him strictly on his games against the Texans. Look at his body of work. Not his fault that a vanilla game plan can still score 41 points against this terrible defense.
 
How about their playoff run last year? How about the work he has done with Tannehill? The Titans defense might be just as bad as the Texans, but they still won 11 games.
Your other post sounded like you meant based on the two games against Houston
 
Your other post sounded like you meant based on the two games against Houston
That’s fair. I could have worded that post better. I was just thinking since we saw them today, if anything besides Henry stood out. Formations, routes, blocking.
 
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I honestly don't care about Eric B's past character issues. They were in the past and he hasn't had anything in more recent times. People grow, learn from their experiences and change (sometimes). That is this crazy thing called life since no one is perfect. If he left that in his past then good for him and may he continue to grow.

Putting that aside, I am not as high on Eric B. as others might be because of the football side of things. It has more to do with the fact not only am I Texans fan but a Bears fan so I get to see one of Andy's disciples each week for the past 3 seasons. Watching some Eagles games and talking to their fans I get the same responses that fellow Bears fans say.

These so called offensive "gurus" under Reid really don't have enough experience on that side of the ball because Reid is extremely hands on. I have no issues with Nagy the head coach. As an offensive coordinator he is putrid. I have heard Eagles fans say the same about Pederson who many said the success when they won the Superbowl could be attributed to what Frank Reich did with that offense and not too mention that team was balanced up and down the roster. One of the statements I made about Nagy is he has never really held the reins in full as an offensive coordinator under Reid except a few games which made him learning on the job when he became a head coach and still insisted on calling the offense. Can we afford that with Eric B?

One could say, "Pederson won a Superbowl!" and "Nagy was coach of the year and 12-4 his first season!" but that would be ignoring what I said previously. The Eagles had a stacked roster mainly along both sides of the line and the Bears won off a stellar defense. The offense for the Bears has been horrid and since Reich left the Eagles have regressed. We don't have the benefit of personnel like either of those situations for when those guys stepped into their positions initially. Heck, don't even have a first or second round pick to help it along.

Maybe if he hired a solid offensive coordinator that he allowed to handle that side of the ball while he manages the team it won't matter. But coaches, like players, have ego issues with that which we have seen up close and personal more than once around here. Not closing the idea of Eric B. but I admit I'm skeptical.
 
When Andy Reid was hired by the Eagles as HC in 1999, he had never been an offensive coordinator or called plays at the professional level. Reid was passed over as the Packers HC when Mike Holmgren left for the Seahawks. The Packers GM Ron Wolf actually picked Ray Rhodes, the recently fired HC of the Eagles.

I could make a long list of coaches that had never called plays who have had outstanding careers as head coaches. I could make a longer list of former coordinators who called plays for years that failed miserably as head coaches. And vice versa. There’s no magic formula.
 
You could make the argument that Reid has never won a super bowl without EB installing his game plan. Reid has been around a long time with amazing players and never got over the hump. He had a record of failing the big one. EB steps in with Mahomes (who no matter who calls plays, EB has had a hand in developing Mahomes) and they find offensive consistency and success.

Playing devil's advocate here. I am still torn on my favorite HC candidate.

If Zimmer gets fired, he moves to the top of my list.

I agree on Reid but I think part of getting over the hump was that Mahomes was a super talented QB that nobody had much film on so they weren't completely sure how to handle him. Just like Watson in 17 if he hadn't gotten injured I think we would have at least made the AFCC that year. This year Mahomes has looked more human, still very talented but not the unstoppable monster he was and large part of that is teams learning his strengths and weaknesses and how to plan for him. Sometimes it works often it doesn't but I'm not sure EB deserves a lot of credit either way.

What bothers me most about EB though is I don't want another first time HC that is coming from a team that has a HoF HC and a future HoF QB. People forget OB was consider a hot prospect when the Texans hired him. Not saying the results will be the same but given a choice between a complete unknown and someone that at least this isn't their first rodeo I'll pick experience.
 
So through John McClain and other local media, Texans fans have been told that the organization is going back to the "traditional" GM-in-charge model of running football operations. McClain has very pointedly and specifically stated many times on air and in writings that Cal was going to hire a GM, and then that GM would be empowered to select/hire his Head Coach choice. And the GM would have the power/control over the roster. Right? Right.

But then this December 30 tweet from McClain:
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL Dec 30, 2020
Texans won’t be hiring a college head coach, if anyone’s wondering.

Tell me, then, how McClain or anybody in the Texans organization can at this time know that they won't be considering any college coaches for the Head Coach position when they just told us the newly hired GM would be in charge of selecting/hiring his own head coach and they haven't even interviewed their next GM, yet? How could they know if they haven't even talked to the guy they say is making the hire? Clairvoyance? Doubtful.

Perhaps the HC decision was made many months ago by Cal-boy & Co., and the Korn Ferry stuff and the so-called committee are all just a bunch of window dressing to give the appearance a thorough search was made by many highly qualified people -- instead of the owner's son.

Are they lying now, or were they lying then? :thinking:
If McClain is right and Cal and the Texans are limiting their search field I can smell another Fuster Cluck getting ready to happen. Further to your comments I also sense the GM and HC have long since been decided. It includes some unfinished business from 2020. Nick Casserio will be the new GM and Josh McDaniels will be his HC.
 
If McClain is right and Cal and the Texans are limiting their search field I can smell another Fuster Cluck getting ready to happen. Further to your comments I also sense the GM and HC have long since been decided. It includes some unfinished business from 2020. Nick Casserio will be the new GM and Josh McDaniels will be his HC.
I bet it’s not McDaniels. Patriots locked him up for after Belichick.

But it’s going to be someone linked to Casserio & Easterby
 
I wouldn’t at all be opposed to giving Marvin Lewis another shot...matter fact he’s my guy if they go retread. He’s a players coach, he knows how to handle these guys having dealt with and got the most out of the Chad Johnson’s of the world. He’s got a helluva pedigree when it comes to coaching defenses with that 2000 Ravens defense. His defenses also weren’t horrible in Cincy either. He knows defensive talent and he knows how to coach. He unfortunately just had some bad luck in Cincy. 1st in 2005..a season in which they were expected to make it to the AFCCG before Palmer’s knee got shredded...& then with Dalton just not being good enough to get them over the hump. But he still did some really good things there considering where the Bengals franchise was when he was brought on and the owner he had to deal with...

I would absolutely LOVE to bring Lewis here to revamp this defense.
 
I wouldn’t at all be opposed to giving Marvin Lewis another shot...matter fact he’s my guy if they go retread. He’s a players coach, he knows how to handle these guys having dealt with and got the most out of the Chad Johnson’s of the world. He’s got a helluva pedigree when it comes to coaching defenses with that 2000 Ravens defense. His defenses also weren’t horrible in Cincy either. He knows defensive talent and he knows how to coach. He unfortunately just had some bad luck in Cincy. 1st in 2005..a season in which they were expected to make it to the AFCCG before Palmer’s knee got shredded...& then with Dalton just not being good enough to get them over the hump. But he still did some really good things there considering where the Bengals franchise was when he was brought on and the owner he had to deal with...

I would absolutely LOVE to bring Lewis here to revamp this defense.

Or if they brought in a young offensive guy to be HC, Lewis as assistant HC/DC wouldn’t be bad
 
Their HC will have been chosen prior to the GM position being filled. The GM will be chosen only if he agrees with the choice of the HC. As I've said before, the search committee routine is just one big facade. Just the same ole same ole.

And we already know who that guy is .....
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I know Henry is the primary reason behind the Titans' two wins against the Texans. Any opinions on Titans' OC, Arthur Smith? The play calling and scheme? With their LT out, David Quessenberry has started five games and they still were able to run the ball.


I'd much prefer Steelers OC Randy Fichtner.

They been running those same Jet Sweeps with pulling OLmen for 40 years .... and they still work with just about any type of RB.
 
Well, with the way decisions are made with this front office, welcome to Houston, Eric!

Falcons as I think the Lions also have interest and interviewed (Lions not yet that I'm awar)him. So, if he is who they want we lose out on Watson's choice. Made vocal on Twitter in a post he made. He made another but took it down. 610 mentioned it but I didn't get the full post. The part I got was he said he was seriously wanting EB. Meaning in typical Texans FO style if EB is a great HC. They didn't act fast enough. After what Cloak said, I'm not sure if I would want EB. Even if he seems to be good at designing an offence.
 
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