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Speedy said:
WTF are you talking about??
First you say it’s proven, then you spout some 1+2=4 bullshit to back it up?
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In at least three separate posts, I have asked @SnakeEyes to either provide a link, a quote or even how he claimed Watson worded wanting a minority on social media. He has failed to provide that link.

@steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the only two posters on this forum who continue to post this drivel without any proof. As I've stated before, the odds that @steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the same person are greater than the odds that Watson ever mentioning wanting a minority HC. I'm calling BS on this nonsense.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I can't whatsoever see Swinney working successfully as the HC of an NFL operation.

He's the textbook definition of a rah-rah cult of personality college demi-god type.
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I agree and could see him getting burned out trying to translate that to the NFL. IMO, college coaches exercise more control over their players vs a NFL coach exercising control over professional players so all the rah-rah pep stuff is more effective in college.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I can't whatsoever see Swinney working successfully as the HC of an NFL operation.

He's the textbook definition of a rah-rah cult of personality college demi-god type.
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Wow. Good thing we don't have any players on our roster that are recently out of college Nor are we expecting to bring any new young guys in the next two to three years.
 
badboy said:
Wow. Good thing we don't have any players on our roster that are recently out of college Nor are we expecting to bring any new young guys in the next two to three years.
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Except we'll have a roster full of pros, millionaires, and superstar millionaires that don't follow the lead of male cheerleaders..
 
SnakeEyes said:
We have interviewed 3 people total for the 2 jobs (GM and HC). Watson strongly endorsed EB so I tossed him in. Feels like we interviewed him for all the talk about him. Making it 3- 0 or 4- 0, and supporting what another member has already stated an observation about. I restated it with the numbers added EB as stated. So his point is looking more true. That Watson wants a minority staff. Nothing wrong with that just his opinion.
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C'mon man. The other member is SteelB and everyone knows when it comes to Watson, SteelB is not objective.

So, again. Tell us what did Watson word on social media that made you form the opinion that he wants a minority HC? Exactly what did he say to give you the opinion that he wanted a minority HC? I also posted a video of a reporter asking Justin Reid about Bienemy and he basically said the same thing as Watson. But you ignored that.

Also, tell us the number of unemployed, former, NFL HCs who are not minorities and are interested in returning to the NFL that are available to be interviewed today.
 
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Earl34 said:
In at least three separate posts, I have asked @SnakeEyes to either provide a link, a quote or even how he claimed Watson worded wanting a minority on social media. He has failed to provide that link.

@steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the only two posters on this forum who continue to post this drivel without any proof. As I've stated before, the odds that @steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the same person are greater than the odds that Watson ever mentioning wanting a minority HC. I'm calling BS on this nonsense.
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Like I said, you will see.
 
Earl34 said:
C'mon man. The other member is SteelB and everyone knows when it comes to Watson, SteelB is not objective.

So, again. Tell us what did Watson word on social media that made you form the opinion that he wants a minority HC? Exactly what did he say to give you the opinion that he wanted a minority HC? I also posted a video of a reporter asking Justin Reid about Bienemy and he basically said the same thing as Watson. But you ignored that.

Also, tell us the number of unemployed, former, NFL HCs who are not minorities and are interested in returning to the NFL that are available to be interviewed today.
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BS.

I'm objective, I think he's a good QB not an elite QB and there's nothing wrong with that. Putting up meaningless stats against poor defenses doesn't make you elite.
 
amazing80 said:
I like him but he’s young. You’d be gambling on him like Titans did with Vrabel.
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Or Brian Flores, or Sean McVay, or Kyle Shanahan..

and that's not to argue that there aren't failures, because of course there are, but it's hardly a gamble any worse than a retread or an aging vet coordinator..

and Vrabel hardly looks like a bad bet as it is..
 
Mollywhopper said:
Or Brian Flores, or Sean McVay, or Kyle Shanahan..

and that's not to argue that there aren't failures, because of course there are, but it's hardly a gamble any worse than a retread or an aging vet coordinator..

and Vrabel hardly looks like a bad bet as it is..
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I’m not saying I don’t like him. Just pointing it out.
 
Earl34 said:
In at least three separate posts, I have asked @SnakeEyes to either provide a link, a quote or even how he claimed Watson worded wanting a minority on social media. He has failed to provide that link.

@steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the only two posters on this forum who continue to post this drivel without any proof. As I've stated before, the odds that @steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the same person are greater than the odds that Watson ever mentioning wanting a minority HC. I'm calling BS on this nonsense.
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Maybe you should check your own posts. Like the one you copied Watsons endorsement of EB even before the "search committee" was formed. Seeing what he said YOU posted.

And also, it was said you can not prove that they are only interviewing minority candidates. True, but you can prove to this point they have not.

Last, I indeed post links. And the kool-aid sippers just discredit the link. So, if I post a link I post a link and if I don't then I don't. Either way it is an individual opinion not a fact that it is right or not. The exact same thing as anything you post. Link or not, people don't like everything you post.
 
badboy said:
The fact that you think Dabo Swinney is a cheerleader says a lot. Those millionaires still want to to win and feed their competitive fire.
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What does it say to you?

Meanwhile there are lots of millionaires on the Jets, the Jags, the historical Bengals and Browns and Lions, and particularly on our own Texans.. lot of good that competitive fire all alone has gotten all of them..
 
SnakeEyes said:
Maybe you should check your own posts. Like the one you copied Watsons endorsement of EB even before the "search committee" was formed
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So Watson “endorsed “ Bieniemy because he is black? You can’t think of any other reason Watson might want to play under Bieniemy? What other reason could there possibly be? Let’s think hard on this, because we want to make certain your hypothesis is correct.
 
Earl34 said:
In at least three separate posts, I have asked @SnakeEyes to either provide a link, a quote or even how he claimed Watson worded wanting a minority on social media. He has failed to provide that link.
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He said it's a theory of another poster which he sees evidence of. He never claimed it was reported.

Earl34 said:
As I've stated before, the odds that @steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes are the same person
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I don't think so. One of them had shown an intellect the other has demonstrated a lack of.
 
amazing80 said:
It’s amazing that we are still talking about race here but I got a 48 hour ban when I did it making fun of steel. Interesting times we live in on this site.
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When you were making fun of him did you call him a racist?

Nothing about this conversation so far is offensive.
 
thunderkyss said:
He said it's a theory of another poster which he sees evidence of. He never claimed it was reported.
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SnakeEyes said:
I don't know I think Easterby is pulling Cal's strings. And everyone is trying to keep Watson happy in the process. I don't care what race or color our HC and GM are but majority of canidate interviews have been minority so far. Watson was very vocal about minority on social media and such. Not flat out said it more how he worded things.
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I asked him about what Watson posted or how it was "worded". Crickets...
 
Mollywhopper said:
What does it say to you?

Meanwhile there are lots of millionaires on the Jets, the Jags, the historical Bengals and Browns and Lions, and particularly on our own Texans.. lot of good that competitive fire all alone has gotten all of them..
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This has nothing to do with Swinney being a good coach for Texans. The NFL has had all types of coaches, calm ones; agitated, those that yell etc. I think Swinney would be great coach. You do not.
 
badboy said:
This has nothing to do with Swinney being a good coach for Texans. The NFL has had all types of coaches, calm ones; agitated, those that yell etc. I think Swinney would be great coach. You do not.
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It has to do with him being a HC in the NFL, the Texans just because here we are.

And yes, there've been lots of types of coaches. Ok.
 
amazing80 said:
It’s amazing that we are still talking about race here but I got a 48 hour ban when I did it making fun of steel. Interesting times we live in on this site.
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We are talking about Watson seemingly wanting a minority HC and GM. We are not talking about race in any type of negative way.

And for Earl. Watson has been singing the praises of EB. While also saying Cadwell is an excellent coach who is good with players. He has failed to mention any other possible HC candidates. Every single person knows that many more candidates are around and some are better suited than others. However, Watson has said zero about anyone but 2. Other teams forums have mentioned this in other ways that may get you into trouble here.
 
There is good reason for Bieniemy failing to secure a HC position after so many interviews. Bieniemy interviewed for 7 jobs over the past 2 years — the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020. The information I now present has be gathered via scouts, coaches, GMs and imbedded media. The Bengals HC position was all but sealed.........until the interview. Just as he came across in previous interviews, he was grossly unprepared, abrassive and arrogant.

Other significant factors that played into his rejections. As OC at Colorado, Colorado had its worst offense in its history. During his term there, he was found to cover up his players' sexual assaults, while also being involved in securing prostitutes for player recruitment.

He has been involved/arrested for numerous assaults, including the choking a female parking attendant. He has accumulated a significant number of DUI's, one of which involved leaving the scene of an accident. His last documented DUI was the end of 2001, but I understand that he has had some since that have been "taken care of."

As opposed to what some people have strongly argued, my sources in the KC organization have confirmed that Reid, not Bieniemy, does both the game planning and play calling during game day.

His demeanor during interviews have tended to re-inforce his past character issues.
 
thunderkyss said:
He said it's a theory of another poster which he sees evidence of. He never claimed it was reported.


I don't think so. One of them had shown an intellect the other has demonstrated a lack of.
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It's amazing that people care about the use of perfect grammar on a forum. It's also shows how little something of substance there is going on right now. If anything decent was going on nobody would be critical of something so insignificant. I don't call people out because I don't give a poop if you spell, use grammar or provide a link. You are welcome to an opinion. I will comment on something if I like and don't feel the same and/or vary some from what you think.

Novel concept- Why don't people stop acting like your in 1st grade and use a forum for talk, debate and news. You know how it is supposed to work. :clap:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is good reason for Bieniemy failing to secure a HC position after so many interviews. Bieniemy interviewed for 7 jobs over the past 2 years — the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020. The information I now present has be gathered via scouts, coaches, GMs and imbedded media. The Bengals HC position was all but sealed.........until the interview. Just as he came across in previous interviews, he was grossly unprepared, abrassive and arrogant.

Other significant factors that played into his rejections. As OC at Colorado, Colorado had its worst offense in its history. During his term there, he was found to cover up his players' sexual assaults, while also being involved in securing prostitutes for player recruitment.

He has been involved/arrested for numerous assaults, including the choking a female parking attendant. He has accumulated a significant number of DUI's, one of which involved leaving the scene of an accident. His last documented DUI was the end of 2001, but I understand that he has had some since that have been "taken care of."

As opposed to what some people have strongly argued, my sources in the KC organization have confirmed that Reid, not Bieniemy, does both the game planning and play calling during game day.

His demeanor during interviews have tended to re-inforce his past character issues.
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Oh well on to the next one......
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is good reason for Bieniemy failing to secure a HC position after so many interviews. Bieniemy interviewed for 7 jobs over the past 2 years — the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020. The information I now present has be gathered via scouts, coaches, GMs and imbedded media. The Bengals HC position was all but sealed.........until the interview. Just as he came across in previous interviews, he was grossly unprepared, abrassive and arrogant.

Other significant factors that played into his rejections. As OC at Colorado, Colorado had its worst offense in its history. During his term there, he was found to cover up his players' sexual assaults, while also being involved in securing prostitutes for player recruitment.

He has been involved/arrested for numerous assaults, including the choking a female parking attendant. He has accumulated a significant number of DUI's, one of which involved leaving the scene of an accident. His last documented DUI was the end of 2001, but I understand that he has had some since that have been "taken care of."

As opposed to what some people have strongly argued, my sources in the KC organization have confirmed that Reid, not Bieniemy, does both the game planning and play calling during game day.

His demeanor during interviews have tended to re-inforce his past character issues.
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I love you Doc & appreciate you sharing.
 
SnakeEyes said:
We are talking about Watson seemingly wanting a minority HC and GM. We are not talking about race in any type of negative way.

And for Earl. Watson has been singing the praises of EB. While also saying Cadwell is an excellent coach who is good with players. He has failed to mention any other possible HC candidates. Every single person knows that many more candidates are around and some are better suited than others. However, Watson has said zero about anyone but 2. Other teams forums have mentioned this in other ways that may get you into trouble here.
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LMAO. Since you referenced me. I'll play.

So you went from Watson wanting a minority HC to also wanting a minority GM? When has Watson even mentioned a GM? Why wouldn't it be talking about race in a negative way? You are saying a black QB wants a minority to be hired. What if it was Brady, Brees or any white QB saying he only wanted a white HC or GM? What if Watson only wanted a white HC or GM? Wouldn't either scenario be perceived in a negative way? Why is it okay with you for Watson to ONLY want a minority HC and GM?

So, again I'm asking. What did Watson post or say that is the basis of you forming this opinion? What did he say about the GM? I didn't see any comments that Watson made about Caldwell. However, I did see his comment about Eberflus (a white HC candidate). When asked about Eberflus, here is Watson's response. So, again, you are wrong about Watson saying zero about anyone but Caldwell and Bienemy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341859708123172866
 
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thunderkyss said:
So you’re saying no to Bieniemy?

Or is Bieniemy your #2 if Sweeney isn’t interested?
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To get back on topic, I’m saying no to Bieniemy and that was before I read CnD’s post. Putting possible behind the scenes issues which I have no proof of, though I trust CnD enough to believe what he says, from a pure football and business PoV I’m not liking what I’ve seen.

First I don’t want another first time HC because I think that was one of OB’s issue is that he was a first time HC which is like dealing with a first time manager. Anyone who has had to work for a first time manager will tell you it usually sucks because most times they micromanage and try to be involved in everything OR they think ok I’ve made it now to t just kick back and let everyone else do the work. OB I think was the former.

Second KC hasn’t had a great record until they got loaded with talent. It was ok but really no better than ours under OB and that was with an above average QB in Smith and a HoF coach in Reid overseeing it. There is nothing in his resume to suggest to me he can build a team with nothing but a QB and a LT.

Finally we keep saying we don’t want to be NE south and for many just working for the Pats is reason not to hire someone but we are all on board with being KC south? So we don’t want to be like the team that has won 6 SBs in 20 years but we do want to be like the one that has won 1 in 50 years?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is good reason for Bieniemy failing to secure a HC position after so many interviews. Bieniemy interviewed for 7 jobs over the past 2 years — the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020. The information I now present has be gathered via scouts, coaches, GMs and imbedded media. The Bengals HC position was all but sealed.........until the interview. Just as he came across in previous interviews, he was grossly unprepared, abrassive and arrogant.

Other significant factors that played into his rejections. As OC at Colorado, Colorado had its worst offense in its history. During his term there, he was found to cover up his players' sexual assaults, while also being involved in securing prostitutes for player recruitment.

He has been involved/arrested for numerous assaults, including the choking a female parking attendant. He has accumulated a significant number of DUI's, one of which involved leaving the scene of an accident. His last documented DUI was the end of 2001, but I understand that he has had some since that have been "taken care of."

As opposed to what some people have strongly argued, my sources in the KC organization have confirmed that Reid, not Bieniemy, does both the game planning and play calling during game day.

His demeanor during interviews have tended to re-inforce his past character issues.
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Well, with the way decisions are made with this front office, welcome to Houston, Eric!
 
Mollywhopper said:
Or Brian Flores, or Sean McVay, or Kyle Shanahan..

and that's not to argue that there aren't failures, because of course there are, but it's hardly a gamble any worse than a retread or an aging vet coordinator..

and Vrabel hardly looks like a bad bet as it is..
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A little unfair to throw Baby Shanny in the "failure category" when he got his team to last years Superbowl with a 20-10 lead going into the 4th quarter of that game ?
This year he's had injury after injury to deal with , particularly at QB where Garoppolo has only played in 6 games ?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
There is good reason for Bieniemy failing to secure a HC position after so many interviews. Bieniemy interviewed for 7 jobs over the past 2 years — the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020. The information I now present has be gathered via scouts, coaches, GMs and imbedded media. The Bengals HC position was all but sealed.........until the interview. Just as he came across in previous interviews, he was grossly unprepared, abrassive and arrogant.

Other significant factors that played into his rejections. As OC at Colorado, Colorado had its worst offense in its history. During his term there, he was found to cover up his players' sexual assaults, while also being involved in securing prostitutes for player recruitment.

He has been involved/arrested for numerous assaults, including the choking a female parking attendant. He has accumulated a significant number of DUI's, one of which involved leaving the scene of an accident. His last documented DUI was the end of 2001, but I understand that he has had some since that have been "taken care of."

As opposed to what some people have strongly argued, my sources in the KC organization have confirmed that Reid, not Bieniemy, does both the game planning and play calling during game day.

His demeanor during interviews have tended to re-inforce his past character issues.
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Whelp, I’m casting my vote for Saleh. Thanks for sharing Doc
 
Allbright had this to say: “Currently, I think the head coach favorite for [the] Texans is Eric Bieniemy, despite most other teams in the league not being interested. Houston is doing background on him.”

This matches up with what fellow Pro Football Network Insider Tony Pauline has said in the past. Pauline has mentioned that the smart money has been on Bieniemy landing in Houston just a couple of weeks ago.

This week on the Draft Insiders podcast, Pauline informed listeners that if Bieniemy doesn’t land in Houston, the Texans would consider a defensive-minded coach. One such name they would be interested in is Don “Wink” Martindale from the Baltimore Ravens.

The background investigations Houston is doing into Bieniemy’s character will be critical. There are some legal issues in Bieniemy’s background that will give teams pause in evaluating his character. However, his record as an offensive coordinator prior to his time at Kansas City will also have been a factor teams considered.

Eric Bieniemy’s tenure as the offensive coordinator for Colorado will also likely raise a few question marks.

In his two years as offensive coordinator under Jon Embree (2011-2012), the Buffaloes went 4-21. In 2011, the Buffaloes ranked 109th in points scored (19.8), 92nd in total yards (346.3), and 78th in yards per play (5.3). One of the most concerning elements for the Buffaloes was their discipline. In 2011, they averaged 7.9 penalties per game (tied for second) and 66.6 yards per game (sixth).

In Bieniemy’s second season, things got worse for the offense. The Buffaloes ranked 120th in total points (17.8), 119th in total yards (302.8), and 120th in yards per play (4.4).

On a previous episode of the PFN Weekly show, Allbright mentioned that Eric Bieniemy is “a titleholder who relays the play calls in but doesn’t make the play calls very often.”

“Andy Reid’s doing the play calling. Like 99 percent of the time Andy Reid is doing the play calling, he designed the offense, all of that stuff.”

Allbright has also mentioned that Bieniemy’s previous interviews have been poor. These poor interviews have likely caused him to fall out of consideration for certain positions in the past. Allbright mentioned that some teams with vacancies aren’t all that interested in Bieniemy. These historical poor interviews could be a big reason why.
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www.profootballnetwork.com

Houston Texans targeting Eric Bieniemy as next head coach?

PFN Insider Benjamin Allbright reported that he thinks Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy is the target for the Houston Texans head coach position.
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The Texans "Search Committee" is one big facade. Korn Ferry is getting paid a load to give legitimacy to the search. And as for the recently added star-studded search cast, Dungy has already come out and stated he is in no way part of the Texans search committee. Every thing that I have found points to Watson and McClain being the sole driving force behind the push for Bieniemy, and Cal creating a an extensive protective cocoon should the GM and/or HC choices go south.
 
maverick512000 said:
First I don’t want another first time HC
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I agree. A 1st time HC candidate would have to blow me away. & I’m not seeing that type of candidate out there yet.

maverick512000 said:
Second KC hasn’t had a great record until they got loaded with talent. It was ok but really no better than ours under OB and that was with an above average QB in Smith and a HoF coach in Reid overseeing it. There is nothing in his resume to suggest to me he can build a team with nothing but a QB and a LT.
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Agreed. Before Mahomes, they were on par with us.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Texans "Search Committee" is one big facade. Korn Ferry is getting paid a load to give legitimacy to the search. And as for the recently added star-studded search cast, Dungy has already come out and stated he is in no way part of the Texans search committee. Every thing that I have found points to Watson and McClain being the sole driving force behind the push for Bieniemy, and Cal creating a an extensive protective cocoon should the GM and/or HC choices go south.
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I'm at a total loss for the leadership of this franchise. As far as the football operations, they need help in a bad way but can't get out of their own way. But the $$$ has and will keep rolling in which seems to support Cal's thought of just needing a tweak or 2.
 
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