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Number19 said:
One, we are the division champs;
Two, we have key players healthy;
Three, we upgraded and improved our OL;
Four, Watson has one additional year of experience.
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One - What does that have to do with the play that will happen on the field in 2019? Is there some new rule I missed where you are given an additional 7 points on the scoreboard each game if you won the division the prior year?
Two - So does every other team. All 32 squads deal with injuries.....welcome to the NFL.
Three - Again, you do realize other teams are allowed to draft players and sign free agents too, right?
Four - Notice a theme here? Other teams have players who will improve from their 2nd to 3rd year as well.
 
Number19 said:
How can the Colts lose what they don't possess? You forget, the Texans won the division last year. The division title is ours to lose, or win. If healthy, our starting 22 will stand toe to toe with the Colts.
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Nobody possesses it, it's 2019.
I didn't forget, I was at their last meeting in person. It was ugly. It could have been worse if the Colts wanted to.
Oddsmakers disagree with your assessment of whose division it is to lose.
The important part about the phrase "if healthy" is the IF part. If Fuller/Coutee don't stay upright and Foreman doesn't come back strong, we're very one-dimensional. Neither you or I have any idea if this new secondary can hold up.
 
disaacks3 said:
Nobody possesses it, it's 2019.
I didn't forget, I was at their last meeting in person. It was ugly. It could have been worse if the Colts wanted to.
Oddsmakers disagree with your assessment of whose division it is to lose.
The important part about the phrase "if healthy" is the IF part. If Fuller/Coutee don't stay upright and Foreman doesn't come back strong, we're very one-dimensional. Neither you or I have any idea if this new secondary can hold up.
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Agreed no one has any idea what 2019 will hold. I don't look at odd makers this time of year because they are going off of last years data and the projected ability of new draftees. The if healthy part applies to the Colts as well because without Luck they are even worse off than we are and Luck still looks to me one good hit away from going the way of Alex Smith but without a Mahomes waiting on the bench.

On a side note speaking a Smith still one of the most heartbreaking pictures I've ever seen in the NFL. You could see on his face that he knew it was over, tough way to go for a guy that was a solid QB.
 
maverick512000 said:
Agreed no one has any idea what 2019 will hold. I don't look at odd makers this time of year because they are going off of last years data and the projected ability of new draftees. The if healthy part applies to the Colts as well because without Luck they are even worse off than we are and Luck still looks to me one good hit away from going the way of Alex Smith but without a Mahomes waiting on the bench.

On a side note speaking a Smith still one of the most heartbreaking pictures I've ever seen in the NFL. You could see on his face that he knew it was over, tough way to go for a guy that was a solid QB.
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You are down playing Brissett's abilities. Last time we saw him he was kicking the Texans buts in Foxboro.
 
steelbtexan said:
You are down playing Brissett's abilities. Last time we saw him he was kicking the Texans buts in Foxboro.
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No that's not the last time we saw him, we also saw him when he was playing for Colts. Granted he kicked our butts then to but that was also the year Watson got hurt and we were stuck with Savage again. The Colts went 4-12 that season so I would say you are over playing his abilities.
 
steelbtexan said:
You are down playing Brissett's abilities. Last time we saw him he was kicking the Texans buts in Foxboro.
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Because the offense or special teams kept turning it over and giving them great field position.

-Texans fumble at their own 22, Brissett runs for a TD next play.
-Ervin fumble at Texans 21, easy TD drive.
-Texans go 3 and out and punt, Pats have short 47 yard drive for TD
 
maverick512000 said:
No that's not the last time we saw him, we also saw him when he was playing for Colts. Granted he kicked our butts then to but that was also the year Watson got hurt and we were stuck with Savage again. The Colts went 4-12 that season so I would say you are over playing his abilities.
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I realize this, I was saying that for effect.

Sorta like saying I hope Watson gets his neck broken. (Something Mangler doesn't seem to understand.) Saying something for effect and not meaning it literally.
 
TheKDog said:
Because the offense or special teams kept turning it over and giving them great field position.

-Texans fumble at their own 22, Brissett runs for a TD next play.
-Ervin fumble at Texans 21, easy TD drive.
-Texans go 3 and out and punt, Pats have short 47 yard drive for TD
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I'm sure that was all BOB's fault.
 
KarlK said:
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One - What does that have to do with the play that will happen on the field in 2019? Is there some new rule I missed where you are given an additional 7 points on the scoreboard each game if you won the division the prior year?
Two - So does every other team. All 32 squads deal with injuries.....welcome to the NFL.
Three - Again, you do realize other teams are allowed to draft players and sign free agents too, right?
Four - Notice a theme here? Other teams have players who will improve from their 2nd to 3rd year as well.
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One is based on what is known as intangibles.
Two, we showed last season how potent our offense can be with all our receivers playing healthy. Also, the FA's we got last season to address our OL problem has injury problems. Now they are healthy and to add to this years draft selections, will contribute to upgraded line play.
Three, doesn't matter about other teams draft. We are the ones sitting in the pole position. They have to catch us. We upgraded in the draft, making it more difficult for them to catch us.
Four, QB is the most important position on the team. As Watson gains in experience, it makes it that much more difficult for teams to catch us; but also improves our chances of catching or matching the veterine play of our chief rival, Luck and the Colts.
 
disaacks3 said:
Nobody possesses it, it's 2019.
I didn't forget, I was at their last meeting in person. It was ugly. It could have been worse if the Colts wanted to.
Oddsmakers disagree with your assessment of whose division it is to lose.
The important part about the phrase "if healthy" is the IF part. If Fuller/Coutee don't stay upright and Foreman doesn't come back strong, we're very one-dimensional. Neither you or I have any idea if this new secondary can hold up.
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If Luck is lost for the season with an injury, it's that much easier for the Texians to remain division winners.

If works both ways.
 
Number19 said:
One is based on what is known as intangibles.
Two, we showed last season how potent our offense can be with all our receivers playing healthy. Also, the FA's we got last season to address our OL problem has injury problems. Now they are healthy and to add to this years draft selections, will contribute to upgraded line play.
Three, doesn't matter about other teams draft. We are the ones sitting in the pole position. They have to catch us. We upgraded in the draft, making it more difficult for them to catch us.
Four, QB is the most important position on the team. As Watson gains in experience, it makes it that much more difficult for teams to catch us; but also improves our chances of catching or matching the veterine play of our chief rival, Luck and the Colts.
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John McClain! I didn't know you posted on these message boards. Welcome.
 
sandman said:
Yeah, go ahead a link to the post where I blamed RAC and the defense for losing that game.

I was responding to the statement that RAC made in-game adjustments and it was all good for the defense after that point.

Considering that after the Colts were up 21-0:

The Colts were moving down the field at will towards another score when time ran out in the first half
In the final 11 minutes of the game they had the ball for 7 minutes and ran 15 plays
AFTER going up 21-0, they only went 3-and-out on one of their six drives and averaged 5.6 yards per play
Three of their five possessions in the second half were 3 minutes or longer

The Colts didn't need to score in the second half. They were very effective offensively in killing time and extending drives. Did RAC really adjust at halftime, considering the Colts only had 9 pass attempts in the second half? No. When they wanted to pass the ball, they did. When they wanted to run the ball and burn clock, they did. I struggle to find the one thing the defense did to force Indy into changing their offensive game plan.

I'm not sure where an honest critique of RAC and the defense is considered a defense of OB and the offense in your mind. The offense sucked. But that doesn't mean the defense didn't as well. "Whataboutism" is a weak argument, but I know there are several here who run to RAC's defense because they hate OB.
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Also consider that once they were down 21-0, BOB had to abandon his game plan and he didn't have the weapons or oline to play catchup. The Colts had us exactly where they wanted us and we had little chance to recover regardless who the HC or OC was.
 
maverick512000 said:
This has zero to do with O'Brien, why is it that every time someone talks about a game where the defense didn't do its job its automatically taken as defending the offense. News flash, if RAC and the defense was as good as some here think then we could win a SB on the defense alone. Steelers did it, Ravens did it, Broncos did it so why can't the Texans if the defense is so amazing. We have certainly spent enough draft capital on the defense. Even the most hardcore of BoB hater admits he stays away from the defense so why aren't they winning us rings?

Colts did exactly whatever they wanted on offense, when they wanted to score points they did, when they wanted to burn the clock they did. By the time of the second half they were also looking to save their players for the next playoff game so they didn't see a reason to stay aggressive. Kubiak use to do that all the time, in fact its what he liked so much about Manning because he knew when to just be a game manager and not try to be a hero. BoB tries to do it but he does it to early with not enough of a lead. About the only team that really stays aggressive and keeps trying to put nails in a closed coffin is the Pats.

On that day the defense sucked, the offense sucked, BoB sucked, RAC sucked, Watson sucked, the Oline sucked, the RBs sucked, the TE and receivers sucked (Nuk did ok for being injured), the QB rushing sucked, the coverage sucked. In short the Texans sucked. It was a true team effort to all lose together and they did just that.
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How did they burn clock when they were barely going 30 yards in 2+ minutes in each possession then punting. Come on bro you know 5 minutes are greater is considered running the clock. The Texans just couldn't get anything going on offense.

The reason why I said Bill O'Brien is because he's the offensive coordinator. His play list was very vanilla, no creativity whatsoever. Yes the players on that side of the ball didn't execute. But that's off to the Colts defense for handling their business.
 
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Texansballer74 said:
How did the burn clock when they were barely going 30 yards in 2+ minutes in each possession then punting. Come on bro you know 5 minutes are greater is considered running the clock. The Texans just couldn't get anything going on offense.

The reason why I said Bill O'Brien is because he's the offensive coordinator. His play list was very vanilla, no creativity whatsoever. Yes the players on that side of the ball didn't execute. But that's off to the Colts defense for handling their business.
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See this is what is so damn frustrating with talking to you RAC fan boys. NO ONE SAID THAT THE OFFENSE WAS GOOD! Stop beating the dead horse already. You won't acknowledge that the Texans defense was treated like a high school team. There were no sacks, barely any rushing, Hell Luck didn't even look like he was pressured at all. And I hate to tell you but its 100% the defense fault that we went 14 in the hole before all the fans had even gotten to their seats.

Why is it in your mind that either it has to be O'Brien's fault or RAC fault, can't you just admit that both are able to suck equally. In this case they both sucked equally in the same game and their players followed the leaders. The defense did not adjust to the Colts, the Colts decided to turtle up and save their players because there was no need to play aggressively.
 
Texas Jake said:
Also consider that once they were down 21-0, BOB had to abandon his game plan and he didn't have the weapons or oline to play catchup. The Colts had us exactly where they wanted us and we had little chance to recover regardless who the HC or OC was.
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He changed his gameplan so he could score once? What exactly did he change?
 
Texas Jake said:
Name the weapons he had to play catch-up?
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Ka'imi Fairbaim. My memory isn't what it should be, but I think BO'b passed on three field goals before halftime. If they score a TD in the third, it would've been 21-16 going into the 4th.

I know you can't just reimagine a game like that. But the point is passing on points changed the way that game played out.
 
thunderkyss said:
I disagree. 21-0 to start the 4th, maybe. But 21-0 early in the 2nd he was making serious boneheaded decisions.
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Name the weapons he had to play catch-up?
TheKDog said:
Deshaun Watson, deandre hopkins, coutee, Miller.
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Watson was having an off game. Hopkins was seriously banged up and probably shouldn't have been on the field. They had no line and they were down three touchdowns, so that minimizes what you can do with Miller. I will give you Coutee and he had TEs, but the state of the o-line limited there availability as receivers. There are a lot of different things that BOB could have done that he didn't--some may have worked out, some may have been worse. Once he was down 21-0 with the team he had with a depleted roster at key positions, it was very difficult to get back in the game. And lets not forget, there were plays on the field to be made that Watson simply missed. All the blame is not on BOB, there is plenty to go around. That loss was a team effort. I think it really comes down to the fact that, at that point in the season, the Colts were the better team. If we would have had Will Fuller, a healthy Hopkins and Watson on his game, it would have been a much different game and I think we would have had a good shot at coming away with a win.
 
thunderkyss said:
Ka'imi Fairbaim. My memory isn't what it should be, but I think BO'b passed on three field goals before halftime. If they score a TD in the third, it would've been 21-16 going into the 4th.

I know you can't just reimagine a game like that. But the point is passing on points changed the way that game played out.
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I understand why BOB would go for TDs instead of FGs down 21-0, but you have a point that they were down 21-0 early and there was still time. If they had went for the FGs, maybe it would have made a difference, closed the scoring gap and shifted some of the momentum in the Texas' favor. Then again, maybe the Colts would have put the foot back on the gas instead of playing the clock.
 
Texas Jake said:
I understand why BOB would go for TDs instead of FGs down 21-0, but you have a point that they were down 21-0 early and there was still time. If they had went for the FGs, maybe it would have made a difference, closed the scoring gap and shifted some of the momentum in the Texas' favor. Then again, maybe the Colts would have put the foot back on the gas instead of playing the clock.
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BOB brought the same crap offense he lost to the colts 4 weeks prior, brought the same crap he brought to the Igles game and got SPANKed in the playoffs.

Nuff said. I would take a Highschool coach right now leading the texans and have more hope.

McVay brought the same offense against Bill and realized the crossing route was taken away........... and did not know what to do.
 
thunderkyss said:
Ka'imi Fairbaim. My memory isn't what it should be, but I think BO'b passed on three field goals before halftime. If they score a TD in the third, it would've been 21-16 going into the 4th.

I know you can't just reimagine a game like that. But the point is passing on points changed the way that game played out.
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Another example of poor situational football awareness. All points matters especially in the 1st half.
 
BOBdaFRAUD said:
BOB brought the same crap offense he lost to the colts 4 weeks prior, brought the same crap he brought to the Igles game and got SPANKed in the playoffs.

Nuff said. I would take a Highschool coach right now leading the texans and have more hope.

McVay brought the same offense against Bill and realized the crossing route was taken away........... and did not know what to do.
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For the record, in the Eagles game the offense scored the go-ahead TD and the Special teams had them pinned near their goal-line with two minutes on the clock. Then the defense let them walk the field and get the game winning score.
 
BOBdaFRAUD said:
BOB brought the same crap offense he lost to the colts 4 weeks prior, brought the same crap he brought to the Igles game and got SPANKed in the playoffs.

Nuff said. I would take a Highschool coach right now leading the texans and have more hope.

McVay brought the same offense against Bill and realized the crossing route was taken away........... and did not know what to do.
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Both of those games the lost is completely on the defense. Texans hung 30 points on the Eagles and 30 points should be enough to beat anybody but the defense couldn't stop Philly from doing whatever they wanted when they wanted. Same with the 2 Colts games, RAC brought the same defense plan that couldn't stop the Colts from hanging 17 points on the Texans in the second quarter alone. Then the next game they hung 14 points before fans had even sat down.

There are a lot of games you can blame the lose of on the offense both the two games you picked as your examples the blame is on the defense and RAC. He just couldn't adjust to what the Colts and Eagles were doing and basically anytime we faced a half way decent QB they did whatever they wanted. Its the offense's job to score points but its the defenses job to stop the other team from scoring points.

So when exactly is RAC going to be held accountable for our crappy playing against top tier QBs? People keeping going on and on about how this year BoB will be exposed because we are playing so many good QBs. Well news flash people playing good QBs and figuring out how to stop them is the job of RAC and his vaulted defense.
 
maverick512000 said:
Both of those games the lost is completely on the defense. Texans hung 30 points on the Eagles and 30 points should be enough to beat anybody but the defense couldn't stop Philly from doing whatever they wanted when they wanted. Same with the 2 Colts games, RAC brought the same defense plan that couldn't stop the Colts from hanging 17 points on the Texans in the second quarter alone. Then the next game they hung 14 points before fans had even sat down.

There are a lot of games you can blame the lose of on the offense both the two games you picked as your examples the blame is on the defense and RAC. He just couldn't adjust to what the Colts and Eagles were doing and basically anytime we faced a half way decent QB they did whatever they wanted. Its the offense's job to score points but its the defenses job to stop the other team from scoring points.

So when exactly is RAC going to be held accountable for our crappy playing against top tier QBs? People keeping going on and on about how this year BoB will be exposed because we are playing so many good QBs. Well news flash people playing good QBs and figuring out how to stop them is the job of RAC and his vaulted defense.
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One of those TDs was a 5 yard drive because the Texans caused a turnover at the Eagles 5.

One thing I dont get is why people who defend O'Brien's offense are over the top at criticizing RAC. The defense has been good by many metrics. Great QBs are still good against good defenses, that's why they are great QBs.

If you want to compare the performance of our DC vs our OC, it's not close
 
TheKDog said:
One of those TDs was a 5 yard drive because the Texans caused a turnover at the Eagles 5.

One thing I dont get is why people who defend O'Brien's offense are over the top at criticizing RAC. The defense has been good by many metrics. Great QBs are still good against good defenses, that's why they are great QBs.

If you want to compare the performance of our DC vs our OC, it's not close
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And I don't get why people that are over the top of criticizing O'Brien give RAC and the defense a free pass. So they caused a turn over, so what that's their job just like its the offenses job to score points off those turnovers. What about the extended drives the offense makes that gives the defense a chance to rest? Also you can't talk about how good the defense is on metrics, they did not stop the scoring drives that they needed to stop. Colts hung points on them at a whim as did Philly.

The excuse of " Great QBs are still good against good defenses" is a cop out that doesn't fly. You are basically saying anytime we play against a great QB we should expect the defense to struggle. Well guess what in the playoffs and SB that's pretty much all you are going to face outside of that one off team riding on their defense. Which on that note how did Denver stop the Pats with Osweiler as the QB and then go on to stop Newton when no one else was able to.

Stop bringing BoB into this, this has nothing to do with him. I want to know when we are going to hold RAC and his defense accountable for the fact that they couldn't make the stops they need to when it mattered most and why anytime a good QB is on the field they move up and down the field at their leisure.
 
maverick512000 said:
What about the extended drives the offense makes that gives the defense a chance to rest?
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The imaginary ones? That's one of the problems. They're inconsistent and have little ability to string 15 play, 10 minute drives together.

It's what OB wants, but unlike Kubiak he can't build that offense. Nonetheless he calls plays as if he has.
 
infantrycak said:
The imaginary ones? That's one of the problems. They're inconsistent and have little ability to string 15 play, 10 minute drives together.

It's what OB wants, but unlike Kubiak he can't build that offense. Nonetheless he calls plays as if he has.
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And again ignoring the entire point and dragging it back to the "We hate Bill O'Brien" talking points. So again why does RAC and the defense get a pass and nobody asks why they couldn't stop Philly which made us even play that game against the Colts, why they can't even slow down any quality QB, why the Colts hung 17 points on them and then in the next game hung 14 as if it was child's play, why they make Ty Hilton look like a HoFer and why with all the capital we have invested in the defense they still struggle so much. Fact is teams haven't feared our defense in 2-3 years now but all that gets forgotten while the lynch mob is continuing to hunt the offense.

If we are going to hold BoB accountable for his crappy job as OC, and we should, then we need to start holding RAC accountable for the downhill slope our defense has been on.
 
maverick512000 said:
And again ignoring the entire point and dragging it back to the "We hate Bill O'Brien" talking points. So again why does RAC and the defense get a pass and nobody asks why they couldn't stop Philly which made us even play that game against the Colts, why they can't even slow down any quality QB, why the Colts hung 17 points on them and then in the next game hung 14 as if it was child's play, why they make Ty Hilton look like a HoFer and why with all the capital we have invested in the defense they still struggle so much. Fact is teams haven't feared our defense in 2-3 years now but all that gets forgotten while the lynch mob is continuing to hunt the offense.

If we are going to hold BoB accountable for his crappy job as OC, and we should, then we need to start holding RAC accountable for the downhill slope our defense has been on.
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Texans defense has never had speed in the RAC years which is part of why RS, HB & KJax are gone
 
Made a very narrow point. OB has never built the offense you described.

Carry on with your RAC rant. But observation, the HC is responsible for both sides of the ball. You keep acting like RAC is an independent. He's not.
 
infantrycak said:
Made a very narrow point. OB has never built the offense you described.

Carry on with your RAC rant. But observation, the HC is responsible for both sides of the ball. You keep acting like RAC is an independent. He's not.
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No others on here are acting like he an independent talking about the great defense he has built. I don't disagree with the HC being responsible for both sides, I don't actually like the job he has been doing, might like it better if he hired a real OC and actually let them call plays, and would not mind at all if he was replaced. What I am tired of though is everyone acting like all our problems will be fixed if we just hired a new HC. It won't, we have further problems and yes the defense is now part of those problems. You can call that a RAC rant if you want to but again that's just ignoring all the facts.
 
maverick512000 said:
No others on here are acting like he an independent talking about the great defense he has built. I don't disagree with the HC being responsible for both sides, I don't actually like the job he has been doing, might like it better if he hired a real OC and actually let them call plays, and would not mind at all if he was replaced. What I am tired of though is everyone acting like all our problems will be fixed if we just hired a new HC. It won't, we have further problems and yes the defense is now part of those problems. You can call that a RAC rant if you want to but again that's just ignoring all the facts.
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I imagine that folks expect a new HC might very well hire a dedicated OC and DC...maybe even an experienced NFL OC.
 
disaacks3 said:
I imagine that folks expect a new HC might very well hire a dedicated OC and DC...maybe even an experienced NFL OC.
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Agree 100% and I absolutely HATE that our OC position is being used to pad a kids NFL resume. The one concern I have with hiring a new HC is that anybody we bring in we are looking at 2-3 years while they get their people and system in. So that's another 2-3 years wasted of Watson and Hopkins and Watt will most likely be retired by then. Maybe it would be worth it, maybe it wouldn't, I honestly don't know.
 
Despite all that’s come undone in Houston since, there are pretty decent signs that ex-Texans GM Brian Gaine’s final draft class will be a nice résumé-builder for him going forward. The team loves Tytus Howard, and both second-round picks are carrying momentum into training camp. Tackle Max Sharping will need to find a permanent home at a single spot, but the smart money says he’ll be playing early on. And tight end Kahale Warring has impressed with his athleticism—while he’s raw, and it may take time for him to evolve into a complete player, it looks like Bill O’Brien will be able to use him early on as a matchup type of player.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/01/jay-glazer-mvp-soldiers-NFL-football-players-rehabilitation
 
maverick512000 said:
And I don't get why people that are over the top of criticizing O'Brien give RAC and the defense a free pass. So they caused a turn over, so what that's their job just like its the offenses job to score points off those turnovers. What about the extended drives the offense makes that gives the defense a chance to rest? Also you can't talk about how good the defense is on metrics, they did not stop the scoring drives that they needed to stop. Colts hung points on them at a whim as did Philly.

The excuse of " Great QBs are still good against good defenses" is a cop out that doesn't fly. You are basically saying anytime we play against a great QB we should expect the defense to struggle. Well guess what in the playoffs and SB that's pretty much all you are going to face outside of that one off team riding on their defense. Which on that note how did Denver stop the Pats with Osweiler as the QB and then go on to stop Newton when no one else was able to.

Stop bringing BoB into this, this has nothing to do with him. I want to know when we are going to hold RAC and his defense accountable for the fact that they couldn't make the stops they need to when it mattered most and why anytime a good QB is on the field they move up and down the field at their leisure.
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The defense has been pretty good. It doesn't shut every team out or stop every great QB.

Do you want a new DC? I don't.
 
TheKDog said:
The defense has been pretty good. It doesn't shut every team out or stop every great QB.

Do you want a new DC? I don't.
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I guess it depends on your definition of "stop" and "great". I'd say it's slowed down a "great" QB now and then (at least for the first 3 quarters) but never stop.

I wouldn't be at all opposed to a clean slate coaching staff change. I'm not satisfied with either side of the ball.
 
maverick512000 said:
No others on here are acting like he an independent talking about the great defense he has built. I don't disagree with the HC being responsible for both sides, I don't actually like the job he has been doing, might like it better if he hired a real OC and actually let them call plays, and would not mind at all if he was replaced. What I am tired of though is everyone acting like all our problems will be fixed if we just hired a new HC. It won't, we have further problems and yes the defense is now part of those problems. You can call that a RAC rant if you want to but again that's just ignoring all the facts.
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A new HC, with a new GM and OC would make a huge difference. Our main problems are the mediocre or bad offense and a front office that has no good plan to build a contender.

We can nitpick the defense but I would say it's been consistently top 10 since rac got here. I doubt we can find a better DC who is available
 
maverick512000 said:
Both of those games the lost is completely on the defense. Texans hung 30 points on the Eagles and 30 points should be enough to beat anybody but the defense couldn't stop Philly from doing whatever they wanted when they wanted. Same with the 2 Colts games, RAC brought the same defense plan that couldn't stop the Colts from hanging 17 points on the Texans in the second quarter alone. Then the next game they hung 14 points before fans had even sat down.

There are a lot of games you can blame the lose of on the offense both the two games you picked as your examples the blame is on the defense and RAC. He just couldn't adjust to what the Colts and Eagles were doing and basically anytime we faced a half way decent QB they did whatever they wanted. Its the offense's job to score points but its the defenses job to stop the other team from scoring points.

So when exactly is RAC going to be held accountable for our crappy playing against top tier QBs? People keeping going on and on about how this year BoB will be exposed because we are playing so many good QBs. Well news flash people playing good QBs and figuring out how to stop them is the job of RAC and his vaulted defense.
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Oh he's held accountable. Like you said both coaches has cost this team games. That year we went neck to neck with the Patriots. The offense put up the points but Obrien killed a few drives with not knowing how to be aggressive. He elected to run Miller up the gut. Reason being he put too much trust in the defense to seal the deal. And low and behold Crennels bend but don't break cost us that game. So in other words its twofold imo.
 
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