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Hey Cal, why do you raise ticket prices every yr even though your on field product has been mediocre at best?
Dakota
Ticketbooth Attendant
First of all, how dare you. Secondly, it's basic supply and demand - a city of 2.1 million people fighting for 72k seats, in football loving TX! We sold 90% of our PSL's in 2002 and their value has continued to go up up up, so the cash register has just been ding ding dinging every year regardless of what we put on the field! As I always say, mediocre is in the eye of the ogre. 42-38 over the last 5 years baybeeeee!
They got overruled by BB. He blocked the Texans from interviewing Caserio.
Here's the Patriots executive the Texans could target as their next general managerhttps://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...s-could-target-as-their-next-general-manager/
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
I'm proud of Cal!
Not only did he send shockwaves throughout the National Football League... He also put everyone in the front office "ON NOTICE" effective IMMEDIATLY
Cal just showed me he's going to tune up this organization and doesn't mind taking risks as an Owner while concurrently emerging as a future face of the NFL Owners association.
He's starting at the top end downward which means NO-BODY is going to be unspoken for when it comes to responsibility for each individuals role to the organization and in the end I feel that CAL is PHARAOHCIOUS! I love Love LOVE the move and what I like even more is the fact that we're going to inevitably move on from O'Brien whose had a NUMBER of Strong Arm QBs to show his system off and still "STILL" the MOBILE QB has elevated the HC... When it's supposed to be the other way around...
Not only did he send shockwaves throughout the National Football League... He also put everyone in the front office "ON NOTICE" effective IMMEDIATLY
Cal just showed me he's going to tune up this organization and doesn't mind taking risks as an Owner while concurrently emerging as a future face of the NFL Owners association.
He's starting at the top end downward which means NO-BODY is going to be unspoken for when it comes to responsibility for each individuals role to the organization and in the end I feel that CAL is PHARAOHCIOUS! I love Love LOVE the move and what I like even more is the fact that we're going to inevitably move on from O'Brien whose had a NUMBER of Strong Arm QBs to show his system off and still "STILL" the MOBILE QB has elevated the HC... When it's supposed to be the other way around...
You'all still buyin those tickets, right ? Does that help you ?
Why does a dog lick his nuts?
It's the same answer.
I have no idea what to think of Cal or this front office. We know they run this thing closer to a corporate board structure than a traditional NFL model of owner>GM>HC. The McNair's were comfortable with the board model from their backgrounds.
My guess, and only a speculation based on very little known facts (since the Texans FO are like the KGB with information), is Cal/OB did not like the offseason moves/non-moves and had already had another candidate in their sites. We do not have any indication of personal beefs like we had with OB/Rick Smith. All was quiet before this news dropped.
It's a bad look for an NFL team to fire GM in June. Makes them look bush league, and that makes me guess that this decision is bigger than the PR hit and they've already got someone lined up.
I doubt OB is on a hot seat at this point in time. Y'all are wishful thinking that one. Most likely he's in on the GM decision with Cal. JMO
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
By firing a GM at one of the worst times possible with no real direction to go in, and you're talking like he just won a SB. He looks very Jim Irsayish to most people around the league with this sudden overreaction with such poor timing.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I have a bad feeling that is what is taking place right now DB. I hope we're wrong, but that's been their style since hiring Rick. I think that the Texans are likely to hire a GM that OB is "comfortable with."
Porky
Hall of Fame
Where some of you see Cal making a big move and putting BOB on notice, all I see is BOB gaining Bellichik type power.
At this point, I'm not so sure Cal isn't subservient to BOB.
I think Brian T. Smith called him King Bob in a column this weekend and he isn't going anywhere any time soon.
For better or worse, this is now BOB's team from the ownership to the water boy.
At this point, I'm not so sure Cal isn't subservient to BOB.
I think Brian T. Smith called him King Bob in a column this weekend and he isn't going anywhere any time soon.
For better or worse, this is now BOB's team from the ownership to the water boy.
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
The worst possible time to fire a GM would be Post-season, Pre-draft...
When the hand gets gangrene you chop it off to save the body...
Cal just stopped the destruction of our roster... Gaine was going to let Clowney walk PURPOSELY "JUST BECAUSE" he was Rick Smiths guy... I feel.
There's plenty of Direction to go in... 5 directions and at this point.. I'd even go with Cal McNair doing a "Jerry Jones" role over Brian Gaine!
The timing was expeditious.. the reaction was justified by the moves (or lack thereof) made by Brian Gaine...
Cal jumped ahead of this apocalyptic management with the firing and created "OPPRUNTUNITY" for prosperation in not only this organization but the players and many employees associated... Kudos, Cal McNair, Kudos.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't go that far, but I could def. see Cal feeling like he may need some guidance and assistance through OB perhaps. Bob McNair always seemed to have a strong comfortability working with Rick Smith for years, and didn't ever seem like Rick was on any hot seat of any kind. When he let go it came off as a shock and also had some strange scandal involved as well that may have had a lot to do with it. Its def. a bad situation though where we are scramming for a GM right before Training camp and the HC is likely involved on the selection process.
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
If O'Brien doesn't start better than 2-2, the only guy he'll be coaching IS the waterboy. Take it to the bank!
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
He should have done this months ago then instead of trusting Gaine's vision throughout the entire off season. He'd have had a strong selection of GM candidates to interview and choose from. If you had any thorough NFL history of knowledge you'd realize that a lot of good candidates avoid situations like this with some new Daddy's boy who just got the keys to the organization and starts firing people out of nowhere with terrible timing especially with a questionable HC that may be involved with the selection of their GM and the process.. Right out the gate Cal McNair looks like Jim Irsay. Show me all of these National articles celebrating Cal McNair's reactionary move as some sort of Maverick new owner. You won't find a thing.
Because new GM’s want their own guys. Now, Cal can say, Bill O’Brien is the head coach of the future and you have to deal with that if you accept the job here. And that will likely turn away a large number of candidates. Or, he can say, you’re free to bring in who you want after this season if OB doesn’t meet the standards. OB is obviously the coach for this season. But I find it really, really hard to believe that we’re going to get a guy like nick Caserio, who’s turned down a number of jobs, by saying this coach that is 1-3 in the playoffs, only win coming from a 3rd string QB, and coming off a playoff loss at home where we got outplayed and out coached in every facet of the game, is the HC that you must work with here. Even if they are best pals. It’s just not realistic
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
Obrien's not going to be in on picking the new GM... He was already in on picking Gaine, looked how that turned out.
Sure he could've fired Gaine months ago... then all this "daddys boy, keys to the organization, irrationality" talk would actually carry some weight...
When GM Candidates see how Gaine handled his position what do you think they'll say? Gaine didn't have enough time?
Gaine made some bad decisions and that'll reflect on the organization for a few years... if anyone knows that.. it'll be the GM candidates!
Texans are Trending UPWARDS and you all act like a bunch of whiney parents who are mad their children make more money than them!
We got Deshaun Watson QB CHECK
we got a good WR corps WR CHECK
We got a good Front 7 DLINE CHECK
PER RICK SMITH
Sure he could've fired Gaine months ago... then all this "daddys boy, keys to the organization, irrationality" talk would actually carry some weight...
When GM Candidates see how Gaine handled his position what do you think they'll say? Gaine didn't have enough time?
Gaine made some bad decisions and that'll reflect on the organization for a few years... if anyone knows that.. it'll be the GM candidates!
Texans are Trending UPWARDS and you all act like a bunch of whiney parents who are mad their children make more money than them!
We got Deshaun Watson QB CHECK
we got a good WR corps WR CHECK
We got a good Front 7 DLINE CHECK
PER RICK SMITH
The Texans keep everything internal and close to their vest. That’s why everyone was shocked to hear Gaine had gotten fired. There was not a single report that his job was in jeopardy. I don’t think it’s really even a debatable issue. Unless Bill O’Brien has a great season, I don’t see him keeping his job at years end. Especially under a new GM.
The Jets just hired Joe Douglas, who I wanted because of the lack of patriots/Bill O’Brien ties. But there’s no way that job is more appealing than here. Sam Darnold is not Deshaun Watson. They do not have the offensive weapons we have, they do not have the defense we have. Granted, they got better because they went out and spent money, but that job isn’t better than this one. If I, simply a fan, can see that if we can get a couple pieces to solidify the offensive line, and the correct coaching to bring the talent together, then the sky is the limit, I’m sure front office executives do as well.
I don’t agree or disagree with cal firing Gaine now. Hell yeah, it’s bold. And pretty damn risky. But it’s a very pleasant change of pace from his dad who watched us try and fail and continue doing the same thing over and over again for years at a time. Gaine tried and failed in his first offseason, outside of tyrann mathieu. He had Justin Reid fall into his lap, but it’s easy to take him when it was a position of need and most everyone had a late first, early second grade on him. He brought in 3 OL, none of which did anything, and lost out on Dillard.
Just need to find the right GM who knows when to be aggressive and when to pull back. And a good coaching staff. As much as I hate to say it, there’s two moves that could save OB’s career in houston. Trading for Trent Williams, and trading for Patrick Peterson. If we can find a way to bring in one of those two, and Duke Johnson, were going to have a very good team. Maybe even too good for OB to screw up
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Pharaohcious
Waterboy
^ I agree...
After the shock of the Gaine firing wore off and I sat back listening to what others were reporting and speculating (mostly on 610) and I began to see a picture of what may be happening behind the scenes.
First, I think the statement from Cal McNair is probably the truth. They think Gaine is a good GM but they want someone who is better. So, this leads me to believe they already have someone in mind. There is nothing that Gaine did on the field that BOB and/or Cal didn't approve of and there was nothing off the field that would warrant his firing.
Second, Jack Easterby was just hired by the Texans this year to be the Executive Vice President of Player Development. He's been with the Patriots Front Office since 2013 as Team Development Director. Guess where he was recently? If you guessed New England you'd be correct. He was up there for an award ceremony but I find it odd that shortly after he returned Gaine was fired. There is already speculation that he is gaining or has gained a lot of power within the Texans organization. And, there is speculation he might have confirmed to Cal that Nick Caserio is available.
Third, I think Nick Caserio will be the new GM of the Texans! The Patriots cannot block him from being interviewed this time and, since he was the guy the Texans wanted all along, I think Cal just decided that he would go and get him now and reunite him with Easterby and BOB to give the Texans a better chance of winning a title (at least in his mind). And this brings me to.....
Fourth, I don't think BOB is on the "hot seat" and I don't think he ever was! And, if Caserio is hired, I think BOB's job becomes even more secure unless they can talk "Belicheat" into coming here too! We will be the "Patriots South!"
First, I think the statement from Cal McNair is probably the truth. They think Gaine is a good GM but they want someone who is better. So, this leads me to believe they already have someone in mind. There is nothing that Gaine did on the field that BOB and/or Cal didn't approve of and there was nothing off the field that would warrant his firing.
Second, Jack Easterby was just hired by the Texans this year to be the Executive Vice President of Player Development. He's been with the Patriots Front Office since 2013 as Team Development Director. Guess where he was recently? If you guessed New England you'd be correct. He was up there for an award ceremony but I find it odd that shortly after he returned Gaine was fired. There is already speculation that he is gaining or has gained a lot of power within the Texans organization. And, there is speculation he might have confirmed to Cal that Nick Caserio is available.
Third, I think Nick Caserio will be the new GM of the Texans! The Patriots cannot block him from being interviewed this time and, since he was the guy the Texans wanted all along, I think Cal just decided that he would go and get him now and reunite him with Easterby and BOB to give the Texans a better chance of winning a title (at least in his mind). And this brings me to.....
Fourth, I don't think BOB is on the "hot seat" and I don't think he ever was! And, if Caserio is hired, I think BOB's job becomes even more secure unless they can talk "Belicheat" into coming here too! We will be the "Patriots South!"
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
So many pipe dreams, so little reality.
Who/what are you willing to give up to trade for those players? Are you willing to hamstring an incoming GM by trading away a lot of draft picks or do you have 1 or 2 current Texans that you'd be willing to trade?
I'd trade Clowney straight up for Peterson, doing a sign and trade contract with Clowney. I'd give up a 3rd or 4th for Duke Johnson. I'm still noodling on Williams. I'm tempted to say a 2nd but I keep looking at his age and he's only under contract through 2020. Peterson has the same issue, contract-wise, but I'm ok with that because it keeps the Texans from having to either grossly overpay Clowney or from having to deal with the Franchise tag two years in a row.
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
I'd hate trading for Duke... Leave him BE!
Pat P i'd trade for if we'd have gotten DeAndre Baker
Trent is the guy to go get
Pat P i'd trade for if we'd have gotten DeAndre Baker
Trent is the guy to go get
Just the request..its done when there is press conference.
And people talk bad about me. LOL
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
Even if you're an insider, I find that hard to believe.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
After they deny the request, we ought to interview him anyway.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Oh that’s a brilliant plan, let’s break league rules, get fined along with whatever other stuff they hammer us with, still not get to hire him and make ourselves look even dumber and hurt our chances to hire any future, quality people. Great plan there.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
What makes you think he'll want to leave his job in NE so badly for this?
Lol! What could go wrong there?
When we go back and look at Gaine, he brought in 3 OL last year, none who
With the Cards going through a rebuild, I’d offer a 2nd for Peterson. Maybe sweeten it by adding a conditional 4th in 2021. He’s out for half the season, and would be a perfect addition for us. For Trent, 3rd and a 5th. Trent wants out, he’s 31, I don’t see anyone offering much more than that for him. For duke, a conditional 4th/5th. We’re obviously not going to get all 3. As far as clowney goes, pay the man. Imagine a world where JJ gets injured and clowney walks. You literally have 0 pass rush unless you bring back mercilus. If we were backed up on cash, I’d say yeah let’s be a lot more careful. But if I’m not mistaken we have $40+ million to spend with clowney’s $20m cap hit
If the job is a promotion in regards to what he’s doing now, aka more control/responsibilities, the Pats cannot block it per the new CBA. Now, if he doesn’t want the job he can of course say no thanks and move on. But if we’re offering a true GM position with true GM responsibilities they have to grant it
Pharaohcious
Waterboy
Well can Nicky handle the spotlight i'd guess not since he's not on the podium up at NE... I'd go with the guy from KC or the guy from ATL
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I've been beating a drum about this since last season when he was on the trading block. He was easily worth a first rounder. Now with his suspension his value has dropped some, and a 2nd rounder with some other BS picks could possibly do it. Your CB problem is solved for quite a few yrs.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
I mean do it on the QT, the same as goes on everywhere in the NFL. If he agrees, he just resigns from the Pats and then we formally hire him.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
He is under contract, not every state is an at will state like Texas where you can leave at anytime, or be fired at anytime. He may also have a no compete clause which prevents him from joining another team for a set amount of time.
Other than an opportunity to be out from under "Belicheat" and run his own organization with a young franchise QB to build around, nothing! He's been at NE since 2001 and has been there for all 6 Super Bowls. No matter what he did to help that organization get those rings he will probably not get much credit for it. It will always be the teams that BB built. Now, I don't know what his personal or family situation is, but maybe, if he's ambitious enough, he might want to run his own team! JMO.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
This could ultimately be the worst mistake that Cal can make. Having said that, IMO it's good to see Cal take a chance for the reason listed above. Last time I checked, there is no championship banner at NRG and we got to this point with Robert McNair calling the shots. Let Cal succeed/fail under his own circumstances. It's his team, so let him call the shots.
I don't remember when I posted it, but I've been on the record here stating that we won't win a championship with O'Brien (in his current state) unless we have a roster that is so talented, that even Barry Switzer could win with them. If the next GM provides this talent to the team, it won't matter who our coach is. Odds are still SOT, but even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Funny how you try to call Belicheck names like that, but want his guys from his organization. Lol!
For all of the folks who try to chime to this, why is it that they all want NE's coaches and management staff so badly?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Just another ploy by the hoodie to make us think we've got to have this guy at all costs. And there go the Texans falling off a cliff every time Wile E Coyote style.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I dunno honestly. Belicheck is a wizard of his own that no one to this day has ever really figured out. All of his decisions are not always great like many seem to think. Sometimes he overthinks things. Is this a ploy? Possibly. I don't think it is personally, because he really does a lot for them and since their DC left, Bill is doing a lot more right now. If Cesario leaves Bill will have extra extra on his plate, and that isn't a very easily replaceable position based on what Cesario does over there.
Ossenfort would be the next in line. For next season McDaniels will run the offense, Belichick will run the defense. (While Jared Mayo learns) Ossenfort will run the personnel side.
Belichick is looking for a draft pick, I would give him a 3rd or tell him to prove tampering (No 1st rd ) if Caserio is the guy I really wanted.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I agree with offering a pick and three is about as good as I would do as well but it’s the part about telling them to prove that bothers me. We’re not dealing with a court of laws where there is a burden of proof we are dealing with the NFL and it’s in house rules. The league could very easily decide to rule in NE favor just because they don’t like the optics and want to make an example to other teams.
In the fight of which has Goodell’s ear more Kraft and the Pats or Cal and the Texans I don’t like our chances.
I don't think I ever said I personally want Caserio as the GM for the Texans but, it is who the Texans FO want. Why do they all want the NE coaches and management? The obvious answer is because they are from a winning organization and regardless of what "Belicheat" and Kraft have done (inside or outside of the rules) to become a winning organization they are still, at the end of the day, one of winningest franchises in the NFL and that is what all fans, coaches, management, etc... want and strive for. If the Texans feel that getting Caserio will help give them that, then so be it!
Yep, God'ells is a known sleazeball
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
This is pretty accurate as far as the NE triangle goes. THey're hoping that Mayo will learn fast enough and eventually prove worthy to take over the DC play calling, but until then its Belicheck's gig now. Losing Cesario at a time like this is not good for them.
Mangler
Toro de España
I don't believe that it was Cal's idea to go after Caserio. I'm almost certain that Obrien convinced him that Caserio was an absolute must have! Cal, being the unkowledgeable fool that he obviously is, probably believed that Obrien knew what he was talking about and believed they could build a dynasty by bringing Nick Caserio to Houston. I don't blame Cal for trying, I blame Obrien, as he's the one that makes a bunch of retarded ass decisions. I just hope Cal opens his eyes and cans Obrien's ass!