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Cal McNair...

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  1. Pharaohcious

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    The worst possible time to fire a GM would be Post-season, Pre-draft...
    When the hand gets gangrene you chop it off to save the body...
    Cal just stopped the destruction of our roster... Gaine was going to let Clowney walk PURPOSELY "JUST BECAUSE" he was Rick Smiths guy... I feel.

    There's plenty of Direction to go in... 5 directions and at this point.. I'd even go with Cal McNair doing a "Jerry Jones" role over Brian Gaine!

    The timing was expeditious.. the reaction was justified by the moves (or lack thereof) made by Brian Gaine...

    Cal jumped ahead of this apocalyptic management with the firing and created "OPPRUNTUNITY" for prosperation in not only this organization but the players and many employees associated... Kudos, Cal McNair, Kudos.
     
  2. Texecutioner

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    I wouldn't go that far, but I could def. see Cal feeling like he may need some guidance and assistance through OB perhaps. Bob McNair always seemed to have a strong comfortability working with Rick Smith for years, and didn't ever seem like Rick was on any hot seat of any kind. When he let go it came off as a shock and also had some strange scandal involved as well that may have had a lot to do with it. Its def. a bad situation though where we are scramming for a GM right before Training camp and the HC is likely involved on the selection process.
     
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    If O'Brien doesn't start better than 2-2, the only guy he'll be coaching IS the waterboy. Take it to the bank!
     
  4. Texecutioner

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    He should have done this months ago then instead of trusting Gaine's vision throughout the entire off season. He'd have had a strong selection of GM candidates to interview and choose from. If you had any thorough NFL history of knowledge you'd realize that a lot of good candidates avoid situations like this with some new Daddy's boy who just got the keys to the organization and starts firing people out of nowhere with terrible timing especially with a questionable HC that may be involved with the selection of their GM and the process.. Right out the gate Cal McNair looks like Jim Irsay. Show me all of these National articles celebrating Cal McNair's reactionary move as some sort of Maverick new owner. You won't find a thing.
     
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    Because new GM’s want their own guys. Now, Cal can say, Bill O’Brien is the head coach of the future and you have to deal with that if you accept the job here. And that will likely turn away a large number of candidates. Or, he can say, you’re free to bring in who you want after this season if OB doesn’t meet the standards. OB is obviously the coach for this season. But I find it really, really hard to believe that we’re going to get a guy like nick Caserio, who’s turned down a number of jobs, by saying this coach that is 1-3 in the playoffs, only win coming from a 3rd string QB, and coming off a playoff loss at home where we got outplayed and out coached in every facet of the game, is the HC that you must work with here. Even if they are best pals. It’s just not realistic
     
  6. Pharaohcious

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    Obrien's not going to be in on picking the new GM... He was already in on picking Gaine, looked how that turned out.

    Sure he could've fired Gaine months ago... then all this "daddys boy, keys to the organization, irrationality" talk would actually carry some weight...

    When GM Candidates see how Gaine handled his position what do you think they'll say? Gaine didn't have enough time?

    Gaine made some bad decisions and that'll reflect on the organization for a few years... if anyone knows that.. it'll be the GM candidates!

    Texans are Trending UPWARDS and you all act like a bunch of whiney parents who are mad their children make more money than them!

    We got Deshaun Watson QB CHECK
    we got a good WR corps WR CHECK
    We got a good Front 7 DLINE CHECK

    PER RICK SMITH
     
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    The Texans keep everything internal and close to their vest. That’s why everyone was shocked to hear Gaine had gotten fired. There was not a single report that his job was in jeopardy. I don’t think it’s really even a debatable issue. Unless Bill O’Brien has a great season, I don’t see him keeping his job at years end. Especially under a new GM.

    The Jets just hired Joe Douglas, who I wanted because of the lack of patriots/Bill O’Brien ties. But there’s no way that job is more appealing than here. Sam Darnold is not Deshaun Watson. They do not have the offensive weapons we have, they do not have the defense we have. Granted, they got better because they went out and spent money, but that job isn’t better than this one. If I, simply a fan, can see that if we can get a couple pieces to solidify the offensive line, and the correct coaching to bring the talent together, then the sky is the limit, I’m sure front office executives do as well.

    I don’t agree or disagree with cal firing Gaine now. Hell yeah, it’s bold. And pretty damn risky. But it’s a very pleasant change of pace from his dad who watched us try and fail and continue doing the same thing over and over again for years at a time. Gaine tried and failed in his first offseason, outside of tyrann mathieu. He had Justin Reid fall into his lap, but it’s easy to take him when it was a position of need and most everyone had a late first, early second grade on him. He brought in 3 OL, none of which did anything, and lost out on Dillard.

    Just need to find the right GM who knows when to be aggressive and when to pull back. And a good coaching staff. As much as I hate to say it, there’s two moves that could save OB’s career in houston. Trading for Trent Williams, and trading for Patrick Peterson. If we can find a way to bring in one of those two, and Duke Johnson, were going to have a very good team. Maybe even too good for OB to screw up
     
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  8. Pharaohcious

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    ^ I agree...
     
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    After the shock of the Gaine firing wore off and I sat back listening to what others were reporting and speculating (mostly on 610) and I began to see a picture of what may be happening behind the scenes.

    First, I think the statement from Cal McNair is probably the truth. They think Gaine is a good GM but they want someone who is better. So, this leads me to believe they already have someone in mind. There is nothing that Gaine did on the field that BOB and/or Cal didn't approve of and there was nothing off the field that would warrant his firing.

    Second, Jack Easterby was just hired by the Texans this year to be the Executive Vice President of Player Development. He's been with the Patriots Front Office since 2013 as Team Development Director. Guess where he was recently? If you guessed New England you'd be correct. He was up there for an award ceremony but I find it odd that shortly after he returned Gaine was fired. There is already speculation that he is gaining or has gained a lot of power within the Texans organization. And, there is speculation he might have confirmed to Cal that Nick Caserio is available.

    Third, I think Nick Caserio will be the new GM of the Texans! The Patriots cannot block him from being interviewed this time and, since he was the guy the Texans wanted all along, I think Cal just decided that he would go and get him now and reunite him with Easterby and BOB to give the Texans a better chance of winning a title (at least in his mind). And this brings me to.....

    Fourth, I don't think BOB is on the "hot seat" and I don't think he ever was! And, if Caserio is hired, I think BOB's job becomes even more secure unless they can talk "Belicheat" into coming here too! We will be the "Patriots South!"
     
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    So many pipe dreams, so little reality.
     




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    Who/what are you willing to give up to trade for those players? Are you willing to hamstring an incoming GM by trading away a lot of draft picks or do you have 1 or 2 current Texans that you'd be willing to trade?
    I'd trade Clowney straight up for Peterson, doing a sign and trade contract with Clowney. I'd give up a 3rd or 4th for Duke Johnson. I'm still noodling on Williams. I'm tempted to say a 2nd but I keep looking at his age and he's only under contract through 2020. Peterson has the same issue, contract-wise, but I'm ok with that because it keeps the Texans from having to either grossly overpay Clowney or from having to deal with the Franchise tag two years in a row.
     
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    I'd hate trading for Duke... Leave him BE!
    Pat P i'd trade for if we'd have gotten DeAndre Baker
    Trent is the guy to go get
     
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    That's what I meant! :shades:
     
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    McNair’s did something similar already, let Casserly stay on through the draft then leave shortly thereafter.

    Doesn’t matter now if some specific event triggered this move or not, it’s done, onward and upward.

    :texflag:
     
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    Even if you're an insider, I find that hard to believe.
     
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    Oh that’s a brilliant plan, let’s break league rules, get fined along with whatever other stuff they hammer us with, still not get to hire him and make ourselves look even dumber and hurt our chances to hire any future, quality people. Great plan there.
     
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