The Texans have more pressing needs to fill.
Suh would be a stop gap for the Texans just like he was for the Rams
But you already know this.
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The Texans have more pressing needs to fill.
Suh would be a stop gap for the Texans just like he was for the Rams
But you already know this.
Tomlin and Dungy should've won multiple SB's with GOAT QB's. Dungy should've definitely won the Saints SB. Losing in large part because they failed to cover an onsides kick. They even changed the rules because Dungy's Colts couldn't beat BB's Pats. Hence the invnion of the no contact with WR rule. The only time Dungy beat BB was because the officals helped him and it still took one of the greatest AFCCG comebacks in NFL history.
You know my thoughts on Kubiak.
Now I'm sure you consider this post to be belittling but it's not. Just factual
Sure they could be better, but so could the rest of the division. Gaine has left himself very little room for error.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think a new Center is our most pressing need. We should upgrade the LT spot, I'm not saying otherwise. But if we don't get a center we'll struggle to run the ball, especially when it counts, & become one dimensional when it counts.
Other than that... if our coach won't coach the talent he's got we're done. We gotta get TEs & RBs involved in the passing game & not just hope our #2 WR can stay healthy all year.
Good point. I can agree with that. We need to improve the OL and secondary And the FAs in this class weren’t exactly great. Just saying it’s not the end of the world.
C and LG. I complained to deaf ears all year about Martin. He terrible in the run game. Kelemente wasn’t any better.
Mancz is a very good C. We need a coaching staff that understands. OT, both R & L far outweigh C, regardless. Better play calling would also go a long way to improving every position on the OL. OB is an abysmal play caller.
badboy
Hall of Fame
FWIW, I think Rankins is the LG and Fulton may push Martin. A RG should be drafted probably a RT/RG; if Andraez Williams not at #23 I could see Cody Ford or round three Max Scharping and/or Tytus Howard.
3 Biggest things for the current offense are
1. Keeping Watson healthy
2. Keeping Hopkins healthy
3. Keeping Fuller Healthy
Sensing a theme?
I'm hoping Ranking will be our starting LG.
Me too,
I expect him to be alot better next yr with a healthy full TC playing one position. He's built like a LG.
Mangler
Toro de España
Yes, but O’Brien will move him around because he wants “versatility.” As if he ever had a versatile offensive linemen to work with as an example. The guy is delusional and probably borderline suffers multi-personality disorder.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Notice that Suh hasn't signed with 32 teams? Maybe his demands are outrageous. When the demand wasn't the Texans made this type move to get Vince Wilfork.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
When I reported this last year, many could not accept it.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Mancz is a good as it got last year. I think there needs to be better understanding of the toll that the 2 high ankle sprain/fractures have on his present and future potential as opposed to his past pre injury potential.
Texansballer74
The Marine
vtech9
All Pro
You may want Suh, but I don't.
Suh waited until late in FA to sign last yr.
Would you consider what Suh got paid by the Rams last yr on a 1 outrageous? I wouldn't for an impact player like Suh. Signing Shuh wouldn't effect future salary cap plans, or are you just into the Texans holding on to all that cap space for no reason?
Why?
You dont think he would be a difference maker and fill a need on the defense?
Do you not want the best players possible on the team or do you think Suh is done?
Yep,
These are the same posters that said Glazer/Schefter etc... weren't good sources when it came to BOB/the former GM not getting along and BOB didn't want Os.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Suh signed Mar. 26th last season.
What in the world makes you think he'll take another 1 year prove it deal?
I'd love to see him signed to a reasonable contract. I just don't assume if it doesn't happen it's because the Texans are cheap. OB/Gaine may be on a youth kick. Suh may want a 4 year deal @ $17 mil. Suh may want to finish on the west coast being from Oregon & Seattle rumored to be interested.
And there's never been a lick of corroboration OB opposed Oz. You act like these guys are infallible.
Oh, I know the Texans are cheap. They've got a QB on a rookie deal and the 2nd most cap space in the NFL. We will see what Suh will sign for, I bet it wont be more than a 2 yr deal.
I wasn't replying to you.
Maybe you're a bit sensitive this evening.
You choose to believe what you want, I will continue to believe long time national reporters whose job it is to be in the know. BTW, How many times does Schefter/Glazer get these kinds of stories wrong? If they made stuff up like you claim they would lose trust from NFL people and wouldn't be around for as long as they have been. These guys have been around for decades and are true professionals.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Often enough not to be taken as infallible. These guys deal in rumors & leaks from anonymous sources. I never said they make anything up. Their source may be getting the info 2nd or 3rd hand, may not have been present to get the full picture, may get a version someone wanted reported, etc.
Need to dismount your high horse too. You readily dismiss when these same guys say the Texans have gone full court press on Solder, Brown, etc.
And you don't know the Texans are cheap. That's you filling in ill intent.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Personally, I don't have DT ahead of OT, C, CB, RB, WR and EDGE. If I could get Suh on a reasonable 1 year contract with performance bonuses, then I'd sign this veteran DT in a heartbeat. If he excels this season, I'd talk next year.....if not, then I could get a DT in the 2020 draft.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Give him time......he'll get hungry and sign with someone unless he wants to call it a career. Little too old to just take a season off from football.
Again how often are they wrong you're talking in generalities here. Something you're very good at.
I'm not on a high horse. Anytime the Texans go after a guy who costs $$$$ they never get him so what does it really matter if they even tried. 2nd place is the 1st place loser. We go thru this every yr with the Texans nothing ever changes andyou would think after a while you would catch onto their game that they use to con their fanbase. How many times and how many yrs are you going to buy into the we were really close but couldn't close the deal BS they spew every yr?
Tell you what fire them all then and bring in people that can close the deals. Or is it ownership that gets cold feet on big $$$$ deals?
Like I said before the description of being cheap in the NFL is having the 2nd most cap space with your QB on a rookie deal.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
So what were they suppose to do? If the quality player isn't there to sign you can't wave a wand and suddenly a new starter appears, well maybe you can if you're BB.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Even sadder that some fans are hoping their own QB gets hurt to prove a point.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'll be the first to say I don't agree with you on much but if I could "Like" this a dozen times I would. The F/A group this year was horrible, for proof just look at the three biggest names in it. The two Browns and Bell. Bell hasn't played in a year because he got in a pissing match with the Steelers who moved on without missing a step and of the two Browns one is a diva that everything I've read says he's toxic in the locker room and one had average stats even though the deck couldn't have been more stacked in his favor.
I've said for months that 11-5 with a 9 game streak earned BoB a one year stay of execution in my book. Well 2019 starts that year so if this time next year it was all business as usual then I'll be right there saying its time to switch the horse out. Do like Gaines and what he's doing though.
If that's what it takes to affect change then put me on board. Dont think that I'm actually rooting for Watson to get hurt, but the Texans org will deserve this if it happens and if Watson takes 62 sacks again it will happen. Starting with keeping Devlin and ending in not properly investing in the OL.
Also if this happens because the OL didn't get fixed then BOB/Gaine/Janitor etc... should all be fired.
I'm willing to see what they do in draft before I pass judgement but Gaine has given himself no margin for error.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I would sign Suh in a heartbeat. His play along would help that defense out tremendously.
It will be the same because this org is unwilling to take risks.
It doesn't matter who the GM/HC is.
Will you agree with me when we revisit this post after next season and ownership continues this pattern next offseason? Or will you make more excuses for an ownership that doesn't relly care as long as the franchise valuation keeps going up?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Agree with you on what? I'm still not sure what the Texans did or didn't do that has you so fired up. They made a play for Trent Brown but were outbid massively by Oakland. There is a calculated risk and then there is putting all your money on one roll of the dice. They made a play for Bell but again the Jets massively overpaid him and he didn't want to go anywhere but Baltimore anyway, he only went Jets because Ravens weren't taking the bait. They didn't seem to want Antonia Brown and I don't blame them, I didn't want him either. He would have never played second fiddle to Hopkins so him in Houston would have been a powder keg looking for a spark.
Best part is they have taken risks both this year and last year. They took a risk on badger and that worked out. When, again, another team was overpaying they let him walk and, to me at least, got equal and possibly better. Then they have brought in Kalil which is a huge risk but its a calculated one with lots of escape clauses. So it seems to me its not that they aren't taking risks its just they aren't taking risks you like and would take if you were calling the shots.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
You don't think they know the franchises value will skyrocket with a SB victory?
A huge risk is paying what it takes to sign a 25 yr old LT what it takes to get him to sign to help properly protect your franchise QB. Kalil signing isn't a huge risk, in fact it's barely a risk at all.
A huge risk for different reasons would've been to spend huge $$$$ on the best WR or best RB in the NFL.
A medium risk would've been to do what the Bills did attempting fixing their OL and adding Smokey Brown as a deep threat. Not that the Texans needed that with WFV's injury history.
Nope the Texans chose to sit on their cap space for another yr and hope they draft well. Unlike the way most NFL franchises are being run.
But hey, it's the cheapest way to do business, an annual Texans tradition. Especially with the 2nd most cap space and a QB on his rookie deal. Tell me this, do you honestly think the Texans org has done everything possible this offseason to put the best product on the field possible?
This is the same discussion we had last offseason and the same discussion we will most likely be having next offseason.
It also costs more to have a SB contender.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
1: That's a stupid risk, again he had average stats playing in the most Oline friendly system ever created. HoF HC, Hof line coach and the GOAT QB with a lighting release. Not sure why you have never addressed this point but all signs say he is more likely to be Solder 2.0 than a true great LT.
2: Already addressed the WR part, doesn't matter how good a player is if they are toxic in the locker room then you don't want them on the team because they can't win it by themselves. Besides do you really think Bob has the patience or personality to deal with a diva? Because you know we saw how cool and calm he was with Brady and Osweiler. As far as Bell goes what part of didn't want to come here aren't you getting. Also how good is he really when he has been gone a year and his replacement looked just as good. Either the Steelers struck lighting twice in a row or maybe its the system they have.
Not saying Bell isn't good, I wanted him to, but there is more to the story on this and I don't think he was worth throwing stupid money at.
3: So now we are suppose to follow the Bills example? F/A isn't done yet and the draft hasn't even started yet you are already implying they aren't going to fix the line. How about we see what we have when the season actually starts before we declare 2019 a lost cause.
To answer your question everything possible? No, I suppose they could have gone your route, broken the bank, pray that this is the year they win it then destroy the future of the team for the next 5 years or more. Do I think they have done everything reasonable and overall healthy for the franchise long term, yes. They've gotten somethings wrong but then I think they've gotten some things right to. This whole thing started with you when they didn't sign Trent Brown, literally that day you changed from "Good times are ahead" to "Business as usual on Kirby".
Do you really think Brown is worth $67m with $37m guaranteed? A yearly cap hit of $17m? He's not Joe Thomas.
And why is everything with you about the money? Seems you'd rather complain than have logical ways they can improve
Texansballer74
The Marine
I wonder what they offered Brown. Were they like a million or 2 off from what the Raiders offered. Did we offer the same amount like we did with Solders.
Its takes two tangle. Those players probably just didn't want to come here.
It actually started with him after ticket prices were raised after 2009 season and then exploded after 2010 season and since then every decision made on Kirby has been faulty and cheapa$$ driven
Tell me how they would've destroyed the future? Making 1 move for one of the best players at their positions in the entire NFL.
The cap goes up every yr and if getting a young improving LT costs Clowney then so be it. Did you even watch Trent in the playoffs last yr. He was very good. In fact they scored the SB winning TD running over him and Gronk. It Brown fails that would've been on Devlin because the talent is there. I mocked him to the Texans when he was coming out for the draft. I'm quite familiar with Trent Brown.
Yes I do for an improving 25 yr old LT, even if it cost me Clowney who I would recup some value of losing Clowney by trading him.
It's exactly about $$$$$ but not the amount it's how the $$$$ is spent.
Like in not being spent to protect their QB. It's like they never learned a damn thing from the Carr yrs.
Apparently none of the top FA's want to come here and if this is the case then everybody needs to be fired and somebody needs to be brought in that can make players want to come here.
This is assuming ownership wants to pay players to come here.
srrono
All Pro
You are saying out of all the FAs in this years free agency the Texans could not find 1 or 2 starters. Wow, I thought this team had multiple holes in the starting line up. Good to know the roster is stacked.
You're just blind on T Brown... he's not elite. If he came here with Devlin's coaching he may be only marginally better than Davenport and certainly not worth $17m a year. Or was he the top rated OT last year and the year before, cuz that would be news I haven't heard from any individual other than yourself. Just llike Solder last year, you think 1 mediocre player is going to turn a mediocre team into SB champs. Your opinion ain't no better than
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