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2019 Texans free agency

Probably not, but every season is different... where are the Colts if Luck goes down again?

So instead of doing the things needed to catchup, we're going to play the What If game.

What if Watson gets his neck broken because the Texans have a history of not doing what's necessary to protect their franchise QB.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't see this being a strong year for OT free agents. We went after the best, but he chose to go somewhere else. We can't force someone to sign with us. We signed a guy on a prove it deal. If he turns out to suck, he won't make the team, and won't cost us much. If he makes the team, hopefully it will be because he proved himself.

As far as the rest of the OT free agents this year, are any of them really any better than every one of the OT's playing in the AAF? Maybe the Texans have their eye on one or more of the OT's playing in the AAF. That goes for RB's too.

I haven't been able to watch all of the AAF games, so I don't know if there are any good prospects there, but let's be honest, there wasn't much in free agency that I wanted to break the bank for.

The Texans always finish 2nd when it comes to landing guys on big contracts. It's almost like they're pulling the woll over the fanbase's eyes with the we tried really hard routine every yr.

As far as the rest of your post, look at what the Bills did as a template for what the Texans should've done. As of right now they have 2 capable starting OT's one in FA and signed a 3rd OT that started games for the Pats as a FA so they would have depth/competition at the position. They also signed a former starter and atleast a good depth guy at OG in FA.

What have the Texans done.
 
So instead of doing the things needed to catchup, we're going to play the What If game.

What if Watson gets his neck broken because the Texans have a history of not doing what's necessary to protect their franchise QB.

Dude, I was just asking the question.. absolutely nothing we say here changes anythin g so don't pull that 'we're going to play the What If game'.

Like I said each season is different and there are no guarantees no matter how much you spend or want.
 
The Texans always finish 2nd when it comes to landing guys on big contracts. It's almost like they're pulling the woll over the fanbase's eyes with the we tried really hard routine every yr.

As far as the rest of your post, look at what the Bills did as a template for what the Texans should've done. As of right now they have 2 capable starting OT's one in FA and signed a 3rd OT that started games for the Pats as a FA so they would have depth/competition at the position. They also signed a former starter and atleast a good depth guy at OG in FA.

What have the Texans done.
So now the Bills are the team we should emulate?
 
Dude, I was just asking the question.. absolutely nothing we say here changes anythin g so don't pull that 'we're going to play the What If game'.

Like I said each season is different and there are no guarantees no matter how much you spend or want.

That's exactly what you're doing, when you say what if Luck gets hurt.

So I countered with what if Watson gets hurt.

It's sad that the Texans org has come to the point where their fans have to hope for another teams QB to get hurt so that the Texans are the better team.
 
It's sad that the Texans org has come to the point where their fans have to hope for another teams QB to get hurt so that the Texans are the better team.

They don't. 2 OL a CB and RB with the top 4 picks could vault the team.

And better coaching that you want to ignore as an issue.
 
The Texans always finish 2nd when it comes to landing guys on big contracts. It's almost like they're pulling the woll over the fanbase's eyes with the we tried really hard routine every yr.

As far as the rest of your post, look at what the Bills did as a template for what the Texans should've done. As of right now they have 2 capable starting OT's one in FA and signed a 3rd OT that started games for the Pats as a FA so they would have depth/competition at the position. They also signed a former starter and atleast a good depth guy at OG in FA.

What have the Texans done.
We ain't the Bills.

How long have you been around? Do you remember awhile back when the Redskins were paying bank for every big name they could get, thinking it would guarantee them a Super Bowl? Do you remember how they did?

Blowing your wad on a bunch of FAs isn't the way to go. Like I said, if a player doesn't want to come here, there is nothing we can do to make them come here. We can offer up trades, but it takes two to tango. Jordan Howard would have been nice, but did you know he was available for trade before his trade was announced? I didn't.

All of this whining is tiring. Grown men acting like spoiled 2 year olds because they didn't get what they wanted. Sheesh.
 
That's exactly what you're doing, when you say what if Luck gets hurt.

So I countered with what if Watson gets hurt.

It's sad that the Texans org has come to the point where their fans have to hope for another teams QB to get hurt so that the Texans are the better team.

What if Brady/Goff/anyone out there gets hurt? How about if Watson remains healthy and Watt (God forbid) and Joseph/Clowney goes down? That's why I said ever season is different and an unknown for all 32 teams. You like to dwell on the negative side of things and that's your prerogative, but don't blame those that prefer to hold out for hope
 
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I had to move from my place at Sam Rayburn back to Houston recently. I’m taking care of my mom, she’s suffering from senility and pulmonary fibrosis. Her personality has changed a lot. She complains from the moment she gets up in the morning until she goes to bed. I’m ******* burned out from all the negativity. My local sports teams should be an escape from it. This website is just more of the same.
 
They don't. 2 OL a CB and RB with the top 4 picks could vault the team.

And better coaching that you want to ignore as an issue.

If they nail the draft like I said the Texans could really be a better team next yr. Although their record may not be as good as it was last yr. But they didn't leave themselves any room for error due to the orgs cheapness.
 
Beane will go BPA.

I'm guessing pass rusher.

I'm hoping Clowney + 23 will get the Texans 9 + a 4th.

From buffalobillscom mock 5.0

No. 9 – T Jawaan Taylor, Florida

The Bills have smartly made upgrading their offensive line a priority this offseason, but while Ty Neskhe is better than last year's options at right tackle, he's better served in a swing role as a reserve. Enter Taylor, the most talented offensive lineman in this class, who gives the Bills a third locked-in O-line starter along with Dion Dawkins and Mitch Morse, with solid depth behind them.

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What if Brady/Goff/anyone out there gets hurt? How about if Watson remains healthy and Watt (God forbid) and Joseph/Clowney goes down? That's why I said ever season is different and an unknown for all 32 teams. You like to dwell on the negative side of things and that's your prerogative, but don't blame those that prefer to hold out for hope

Lets try it this way

You said all things being equal the Colts are ahead of Texans and they are unlikely to catchup.

This is sad because it didn't have to be this way. It's this way by the choice of the Houston Texans org.
 
As far as the rest of your post, look at what the Bills did as a template for what the Texans should've done. As of right now they have 2 capable starting OT's one in FA and signed a 3rd OT that started games for the Pats as a FA so they would have depth/competition at the position. They also signed a former starter and atleast a good depth guy at OG in FA.

Yup.
 
It's sad that the Texans org has come to the point where their fans have to hope for another teams QB to get hurt so that the Texans are the better team.

This is so much Bullshyte! Your getting worse than TK about stirring the pot and twisting words into meaning what you want.. and least he is rational and fair
 
From buffalobillscom mock 5.0



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I'm not disagreeing with you,

I'm disagreeing with the draftnik.

The beautiful thing about this is we will find out who's right when it comes draft time. Alot of these guys aren't very good at what they do and dont even pay attention to whats been done in FA.
 
I had to move from my place at Sam Rayburn back to Houston recently. I’m taking care of my mom, she’s suffering from senility and pulmonary fibrosis. Her personality has changed a lot. She complains from the moment she gets up in the morning until she goes to bed. I’m ******* burned out from all the negativity. My local sports teams should be an escape from it. This website is just more of the same.

Yeah someimes a hiatus makes the most sense... I'm close again
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you,

I'm disagreeing with the draftnik.

The beautiful thing about this is we will find out who's right when it comes draft time. Alot of these guys aren't very good at what they do and dont even pay attention to whats been done in FA.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you,

I'm disagreeing with the draftnik.

The beautiful thing about this is we will find out who's right when it comes draft time. Alot of these guys aren't very good at what they do and dont even pay attention to whats been done in FA.

Did you even read it?
 
I had to move from my place at Sam Rayburn back to Houston recently. I’m taking care of my mom, she’s suffering from senility and pulmonary fibrosis. Her personality has changed a lot. She complains from the moment she gets up in the morning until she goes to bed. I’m ******* burned out from all the negativity. My local sports teams should be an escape from it. This website is just more of the same.

Thoughts and prayers.

I did this with my grandmother at age 25. Sad really

If you need and ear to listen to you give me a PM and I will send you my number.
 
I think you're going to be surprised with the Bills this season.

In what way? You think they're going to be in the AFCCG? If not, does it really matter what they do?

Or are you saying getting to the playoffs is a worthy accomplishment?

They're going to play the Pats twice. Are you saying they'll win one? Or compete with them?

Are they going to finish 2nd in the division?

In what way will the Bill's surprise us?
 
Did you even read it?

Yes I did and I think the Clowney trade is looking more plausible.

I could even see Beane trading up to say #7 with the Jags and picking Sweat if he falls and the Jags picking Taylor/Williams/Dillard at #9. This isn't a comforting thought BTW.

But there's no doubt an edge is he Bills #1 need.
 
In what way? You think they're going to be in the AFCCG? If not, does it really matter what they do?

Or are you saying getting to the playoffs is a worthy accomplishment?

They're going to play the Pats twice. Are you saying they'll win one? Or compete with them?

Are they going to finish 2nd in the division?

In what way will the Bill's surprise us?

They will be a much better team and finish in the 10-6 range. Beane isn't messing around.
 
Me

Why do you think the Clowney to Buffalo rumors came out? They will also be adding a DT later in the draft to replace Kyle Williams.

blah, blah blaj

Or perhaps in the first depending on how the draft fell...

You know nothing more than anyone else... but if you insist on having the last word....
 
blah, blah blaj
Or perhaps in the first depending on how the draft fell...

You know nothing more than anyone else... but if you insist on having the last word....

I'm not saying I know how the Bills are going to draft, much less am I having the last word. I'm saying the Bills have far more pressing needs at DT/Edge. I would actually expect Beane to pick Oliver if he falls that far. So far Beane has always been a BPA type guy and if the player fits the need then that's his pick. Otherwise he will trade up to get his BPA at a position of need or trade down and get a better value for the guy he wants. He very rarely sits still.

Go check out Beane's history in the draft as GM.

BTW, I hope Gaine learned this from Beane.
 
We ain't the Bills.

How long have you been around? Do you remember awhile back when the Redskins were paying bank for every big name they could get, thinking it would guarantee them a Super Bowl? Do you remember how they did?

Blowing your wad on a bunch of FAs isn't the way to go. Like I said, if a player doesn't want to come here, there is nothing we can do to make them come here. We can offer up trades, but it takes two to tango. Jordan Howard would have been nice, but did you know he was available for trade before his trade was announced? I didn't.

All of this whining is tiring. Grown men acting like spoiled 2 year olds because they didn't get what they wanted. Sheesh.

No whining here, just disagreeing with the philosophy of the Texans org. They will never win a SB with the philosophy they've had for the last decade or so. It's not about spending $$$$ on big names. It's about spending $$$$ on the best talent. For instance, the Texans have a need for a penetrating DT, Suh is available and the Texans have the cap space to do a short term deal? Do you think they will sign Suh? Do you think they're doing everything possible to put the best product on the field possible? I dont

My Bears friend told me Howard was on the block since the end of last season and if he knew this Gaine should've known this. If Gaine didn't know this he should be fired. (Whether you knew Howard was available or not) Fact is Gaine didn't want Howard even at a cheap price. This kind of stuff really makes you wonder what's going on down on Kirby.

I think even you would agree the Texans philosophy over the past 12 yrs isn't going to bring a championship to Kirby. So why wont the Texans org change the way they do business? That's the real question IMHO.
 
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No whining here, just disagreeing with the philosophy of the Texans org. They will never win a SB with the philosophy they've had for the last decade or so. It's not about spending $$$$ on big names. It's about spending $$$$ on the best talent. For instance, the Texans have a need for a penetrating DT, Suh is available and the Texans have the cap space to do a short term deal? Do you think they will sign Suh? Do you think they're doing everything possible to put the best product on the field possible? I dont

My Bears friend told me Howard was on the block since the end of last season and if he knew this Gaine should've known this. If Gaine didn't know this he should be fired. (Whether you knew Howard was available or not) Fact is Gaine didn't want Howard even at a cheap price. This kind of stuff really makes you wonder what's going on down on Kirby.

I think even you would agree the Texans philosophy over the past 12 yrs isn't going to bring a championship to Kirby. So why wont the Texans org change the way they do business? That's the real question IMHO.

McNairs business practices. Texans are run like a fine tooled Fortune 500 company but winning as a sports organization still eludes them.
 
Reasonable people with the same goal differ on methods. No need to ascribe ill intent to others.

You may have heard this colloquially expressed as, "there's more than one way to skin a cat."

The Texans haven't done much skinning since their inception.

Maybe it's time to try a new way to skin this cat you speak of.
 
It's about spending $$$$ on the best talent. For instance, the Texans have a need for a penetrating DT, Suh is available and the Texans have the cap space to do a short term deal? Do you think they will sign Suh?

On one hand you say we should do what the Rams are doing. On the other hand you say we should bring in Suh regardless the cost.

These two contradict one another. How is someone supposed to know when the Texans should follow the Rams lead & when they shouldn't?
 
I think even you would agree the Texans philosophy over the past 12 yrs isn't going to bring a championship to Kirby. So why wont the Texans org change the way they do business? That's the real question IMHO.

I've always thought continuity up top lead to championships. I also thought leaving HCs, & GMs in place led to continuity.

Now, not so much. I believe Bob McNair had a vision. He brought in Casserly & Capers to realize that vision. Then he drafted David Carr & his vision changed. Instead of winning the organizations focus became developing a QB.

He even brought in a new HC to that end. In 2007 that vision changed again. Back to winning. Which we did. Then 2010 happened, lines were drawn, sides were taken & we had to wait till it was resolved.

I hope winning is back to the top of their things to do list. But we'll have to wait & see.
 
On one hand you say we should do what the Rams are doing. On the other hand you say we should bring in Suh regardless the cost.

These two contradict one another. How is someone supposed to know when the Texans should follow the Rams lead & when they shouldn't?

Where did I say they should bring Suh in regardless of cost. What I said was they have a need and the cap space needed to fill the need. Yes' I would try to do a deal with Suh like the Rams did last season, then you're free and have cap space next offseason when it comes time to get a deal with Watson. Signing Suh wouldn't affect your cap this season or next season. But it would help the on the field product next season.

Jeez some of ou people act as if the McNair's $$$$ is your $$$$.
 
Hardly anyone except a few teams have in the AFC since the Texans' inception and you dislike half the coaches in that small group.

Who are these coaches you are talking about. The only one I can think of his a classically underachieving Tomlin.

They still would be wise to change what they're doing. To hear you you would think thePats would've won the last 20 SB's. To this point the only teams to beat the Pats and win SB's are the Broncos and Eagles both of whom heavily invested in the FA market.
 
Jeez some of ou people act as if the McNair's $$$$ is your $$$$

I couldn't care less about the money. The point is he Rams let Sue go this year. I didn't know you meant the Rams were a model for winning last year but not this year.

I'm just trying to follow you.
 
I couldn't care less about the money. The point is he Rams let Sue go this year. I didn't know you meant the Rams were a model for winning last year but not this year.

I'm just trying to follow you.

Very simply, you try your best to put the best product on the field you can using both the Draft and FA within the salary cap.

This includes looking at not only the draft this yr but the strengths and weaknesses of the 2020 draft and draft in 2019 plus use FA accordingly to fill needs.

Example Rams needed an interior presence lat yr and signed Suh to a 1 yr deal knowing the 2019 draft is very deep at DT.
 
We only lost five games last year, three of which we had the lead at the end of the game and our defense didn’t hold up. I think some here are So upset they didn’t get what they wanted in a poor FA class that they can’t see we’re actually pretty good.

The way I look at it, if we fail bad this year we’re one step closer to fixing this teams real problem. The head coach. Now if we come out of next season against a tough schedule and have a good season then OB will have proven himself. So to me this season will be the tell of the tape for this regime.

Draft a couple of OL and a CB or two with another speedy WR (Isabella/Campbell) for health insurance purposes and maybe a RB and we should be fine.

They don't. 2 OL a CB and RB with the top 4 picks could vault the team.

And better coaching that you want to ignore as an issue.
Basically what infan said.
 
But they got completely embarrassed by the Colts when it really mattered.... we may have lost only 5 games..... but none of the wins were exactly pretty.

I'm not saying a Win isnt a win

But if you're going to argue we only lost five, the validity of the quality of those wins is a fair counter to that logic defending that 3 of those 5 losses weren't by a lot.
 
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Who are these coaches you are talking about. The only one I can think of his a classically underachieving Tomlin.

Tomlin, Dungy & Kubiak have all been punching bags for you. The only AFC SB winning coach during the Texans' existence I don't recall you belittling is Harbaugh.
 
Example Rams needed an interior presence lat yr and signed Suh to a 1 yr deal knowing the 2019 draft is very deep at DT.

Is the draft deep at DT for the Rams... or for us as well. Should we do what the Rams did last year & sign Sue or take advantage of a deep DT draft like they are doing this year?
 
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