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2019 Texans free agency

steelbtexan said:
Look at how the successful teams AFCCG/NFCCG and how they acquire talent and get back with me.
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They draft well, they don't trade a ton of picks, they keep their own guys they can properly value, they don't overpay free agents. OPPOSITE of what O'Brien has done.
 
Jadmakaveli said:
Oh I already know. Wanted to give Gaine a chance to see what he'd do in FA and right now going have to give him a failing grade.
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I don’t really care what Gaine does in FA. It’s the draft that really matters, and he had a damn good one despite the handicap. That’s what a good GM does. Anyone can just go buy a good player or two and get the team in a bind (cap-wise) instead of discovering talent and not having to worry about absurd amounts of cash just to convince a player to come play for our team until 4-5 years down the line.

I have a good feeling about his 2nd draft. ESPECIALLY, knowing how loaded it is on both defense and offense.
 
TheKDog said:
The Texans have made plenty of FA signings. Osweiler, Jeff Allen, Lamar Miller and Colvin, for example.
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Look at how the successful teams AFCCG/NFCCG and how they acquire talent and get back with me.
beerlover said:
Or just turn the other cheek :dangit:
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Bend over and take it would be more appropriate.

I think what I dislike most of all is the letters from the Texans saying they've done what needs to be done to bring a championship to this city. Frankly that's insulting to me.
 
TheKDog said:
They draft well, they don't trade a ton of picks, they keep their own guys they can properly value, they don't overpay free agents. OPPOSITE of what O'Brien has done.
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Is that what the Rams did last yr?

The Eagles the yr before?

Nope they made trades/FA signings to augment their really good drafting.
 
mussop said:
Bell is like having a 4th or 5th WR on the field.
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Yes, but said team must have a coach that is capable of putting together a game plan that involves the RB in the passing game.....

steelbtexan said:
Why do you think this.

Which is more important, Watson's health or a cb?
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Obviously Watson's health is more impotant. Just thinking that if a CB isn't signed in FA then that'd be the pick I'd assume. Because Devlin is making chicken salad out of chicken ***t with that Oline. At least OB thinks so.
 
Porky said:
With all due respect Steel, aren't you the one that was pounding all of us that have been disgruntled with the current regime. I mean all I've seen from your posts over the last year or so is how there is now a new sheriff in town, we are done with that loser RS, and now we have a savior in Gaine and now the HC and the GM are aligned and they fart unicorns and rainbows and their sheet don't stink like us mere humans.

Now, you're over here trashing these same people. I guess I define the word consistent a little differently.

I also think the other fans that post here would be a little more respectful of you if you knocked off the hyperbole about injuries and such. We're all passionate fans - that's why we hang out here so we can communicate with other fans, but no need to go overboard and talk about people dying and getting injured. This is the toy store of life, and guess what, we have no control over it. So Relax and enjoy it!
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I was hopeful thing would change under the new regime. I was wrong.

Thanks Porky for the psychology lesson.

The thing is Ireally dont care what posters think about me. This is the same sh!t that happens every yr at this time of yr. You know what else happens every yr the Texans org are a cheapass org.
 
Don’t think keeping both Kareem and Tyrann was insurmountable. Continuity is so important and one less thing to worry about instead build upon.
 
zshawn10 said:
[palmer] Broncos former first round pick CB Bradley Roby is signing with the the Texans for 1 year and 10 million, per source.
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We swapped KJax and HB for Roby and Gipson and saved some money along the way. Our secondary may actually be better than last year with these moves - we were hurting at CB the most and KJax was better at S. That being said, this feels like a sideways move. We still don’t have a true #1 corner, our O-line is still bad, there are still question marks at HB and WR... I really hope we use some more of our capspace for some impact players...
 
TheKDog said:
In 2020 the Texans have $107m in capspace but these guys will get big raises:

-clowney
-watson
-mercilus
-fuller

Plus all the draft picks for the next two drafts

Signing brown and Matthieu means you can't keep everyone.
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Maybe.

I still think Clowney is gone.

Mercilus will have to step up his game to cash in, which is probable if Clowney leaves.

Fuller will have to stay on the field this coming season. Not gonna get a huge raise to live on injury list.

If Watson doesn't learn to get rid of the ball he might not survive to see another season. That will require a new mindset.

All is a krap shoot next season.

What you posted however is in all probability the Texans game plan. :)

:coffee:
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I liked Roby coming out of college.

Haven’t paid much attention to him lately.
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Roby earned a 59.8 overall grade from Pro Football Focus in 2018 - the lowest of his career. His 78.3 in 2017 was a career-high.

Roby was among PFF’s least efficient cornerbacks last season. He was tied for 20th with 82 targets, but gave up 823 yards, ranking fourth. His 1.48 yards per coverage snap ranked 102nd of the 131 cornerbacks that qualified. Roby allowed a career-worst 65.9% completion percentage when targeted and a passer rating of 117.3 in 2018.
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https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/3...-bradley-roby-broncos-49ers-witherspoon-moore
 
LMAO .. so Texans-like .. wont spend the money to keep your guy in Jackson or Mathieu, but WILL spend the money on an average/below average guy like Roby?

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steelb, you're probably not going to like this.

Bills agreed to terms with OL Ty Nsekhe on a two-year, $14.5 million contract with $7.7 million guaranteed.
Nsekhe held his own filling in for Trent Williams the last two seasons. The former Texas State star has been a swingman for his career but should get a shot to start at right tackle in Buffalo. Nsekhe's signing means Jordan Mills likely won't be back.
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LikeMike said:
We swapped KJax and HB for Roby and Gipson and saved some money along the way. Our secondary may actually be better than last year with these moves - we were hurting at CB the most and KJax was better at S. That being said, this feels like a sideways move. We still don’t have a true #1 corner, our O-line is still bad, there are still question marks at HB and WR... I really hope we use some more of our capspace for some impact players...
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Its still way early, hell its not even officially F/A yet its just the end of the no tampering which it seems was ignored anyway. To me they have been very smart this off season so far. The didn't way over pay for Trent Brown, they didn't try to bring in the drama queen that is the other Brown, they offered Badger a good deal but when KC offered him more than he was worth they let him walk and they still have all their picks and maybe even some comp picks down the line. Is it the big head line grabbing news like what the Raiders are doing, no but then when has a team that "won" F/A ever turned it into on field success that season.

This is a very deep draft for almost all positions, except maybe QB but we've got that covered for once, and the mocks for us are all over the board because we have so many choices that could help us. I'll actually wait till after the off season is over before deciding if it was a win or not. Right now this all feels like judging a movie based on not even the trailers but on the opening credits.
 
zshawn10 said:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/3...-bradley-roby-broncos-49ers-witherspoon-moore
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xtruroyaltyx said:
If he plays like that here it’ll be a disaster.
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That’s the thing, he seems to be a great #2 corner, but not necessarily ready to take on the best receiver every down. At least our safety squad should be pretty good with Reid, Hal and Gipson to help him out a bit - and our pass rush should help as well... Still we need to take a CB somewhere in the first two rounds...
 
LikeMike said:
That’s the thing, he seems to be a great #2 corner, but not necessarily ready to take on the best receiver every down. At least our safety squad should be pretty good with Reid, Hal and Gipson to help him out a bit - and our pass rush should help as well... Still we need to take a CB somewhere in the first two rounds...
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aren't you just the optimist.
 
maverick512000 said:
Its still way early, hell its not even officially F/A yet its just the end of the no tampering which it seems was ignored anyway. To me they have been very smart this off season so far. The didn't way over pay for Trent Brown, they didn't try to bring in the drama queen that is the other Brown, they offered Badger a good deal but when KC offered him more than he was worth they let him walk and they still have all their picks and maybe even some comp picks down the line. Is it the big head line grabbing news like what the Raiders are doing, no but then when has a team that "won" F/A ever turned it into on field success that season.

This is a very deep draft for almost all positions, except maybe QB but we've got that covered for once, and the mocks for us are all over the board because we have so many choices that could help us. I'll actually wait till after the off season is over before deciding if it was a win or not. Right now this all feels like judging a movie based on not even the trailers but on the opening credits.
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They didn't really pay for anybody.
 
TheKDog said:
Matthieu got $14m for multiple years
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I get it K I really do, but trying to put lipstick on a pig is not going to cut it. Kareem was only 11 for 3 years? Kareem was BY FAR the better player LAST YEAR between he and Roby .. but people like to predict the future like they do with Clowney and his knee . they say that Kareem will all of a sudden be a dud next year why? Because he got paid? Because he's 31? Didnt JJO dispel some of those age related arguments?

You may be high on Roby and it could turn out great, but I get the same feeling I got from the Colvin signing ... TRASH!!
 
Uncle Rico said:
LMAO .. so Texans-like .. wont spend the money to keep your guy in Jackson or Mathieu, but WILL spend the money on an average/below average guy like Roby?

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Texans need to get faster and better in coverage on the outside and over the top. It doesn't matter who the "better" player is between Jackson and Roby... Roby is likely going to upgrade our secondary, because he offers things that Jackson does not. We will see how it works out.
 
Uncle Rico said:
I get it K I really do, but trying to put lipstick on a pig is not going to cut it. Kareem was only 11 for 3 years? Kareem was BY FAR the better player LAST YEAR between he and Roby .. but people like to predict the future like they do with Clowney and his knee . they say that Kareem will all of a sudden be a dud next year why? Because he got paid? Because he's 31? Didnt JJO dispel some of those age related arguments?

You may be high on Roby and it could turn out great, but I get the same feeling I got from the Colvin signing ... TRASH!!
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Actually I agree with you. I was just saying he's cheaper, not that I actually am happy with the move
 
Maybe not a splash...but it is obvious (to me at least) that the Texans have placed a high value on signing FA's with a history of good health.

Regarding Roby - "One definite plus on the former 2014 first-round pick out of Ohio State is that Robey has played in all 16 games except for last season. Even so, he only missed one game. Durability wouldn’t be an issue"

Regarding Gipson - "Gipson hasn't missed a start since 2015 when he was injured in his last season with the Browns"

I like the moves.
 
dalemurphy said:
Texans need to get faster and better in coverage on the outside and over the top. It doesn't matter who the "better" player is between Jackson and Roby... Roby is likely going to upgrade our secondary, because he offers things that Jackson does not. We will see how it works out.
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Roby might be faster but he certainly wasn't better last yr.
 
dalemurphy said:
Texans need to get faster and better in coverage on the outside and over the top. It doesn't matter who the "better" player is between Jackson and Roby... Roby is likely going to upgrade our secondary, because he offers things that Jackson does not. We will see how it works out.
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Jackson can play all positions in the secondary and do it well. Roby is ONLY a 2nd CB at best and judging by his grades and the fact that the Denver Broncos fan pages are throwing a party over his loss isnt very encouraging, but hey next year when he's getting burnt and Im yelling "i told you so" you guys can always go back to the "your not a real fan" insults. Seems to work wonders around here.

"offers things that Jackson does not" - yup, bad coverage, DPI flags, and poor tackling.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Jackson can play all positions in the secondary and do it well. Roby is ONLY a 2nd CB at best and judging by his grades and the fact that the Denver Broncos fan pages are throwing a party over his loss isnt very encouraging, but hey next year when he's getting burnt and Im yelling "i told you so" you guys can always go back to the "your not a real fan" insults. Seems to work wonders around here.

"offers things that Jackson does not" - yup, bad coverage, DPI flags, and poor tackling.
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Lets see what RAC and co. can do with him.
 
Meanwhile, all the OL are getting snapped up. What the hell are they doing down on Kirby? Watson is getting killed and it's nothing but crickets over there.

Mitch Morse - Bills
Ty Nsekhe - Bills
Ju'Wuan James - Broncos
Roger Saffold - Titans
Billy Turner - Packers

Matt Paradis is still out there. He'd be an incredible addition, so I'm sure they won't bother. Daryl Williams is the other player that stands out to me. He'd solve RT.

Come on Gaine! Make it happen and get one of these players!
 
Putting on my fantasy hat... it appears Clowney is destined to be traded or a holdout into the season.

How about we trade him for Xavier Rhodes? Rhodes already signed to a long term deal and will be cheaper than Clowney’s next contract further freeing up $$$ down the line for DW4 and co.

CB all of a sudden becomes a strength and Texans are off the hook giving long term money to Clowney and his scary knee situation! Make it happen Gaine!!!
 
steelbtexan said:
Roby might be faster but he certainly wasn't better last yr.
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I agree that he wasn't better last year. He has been good at times though, and he is about 5 years younger than Jackson. We will see how it works out soon enough. From my perspective, I see the Texans attempting to address an area of weakness, which is what I want to see.
 
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