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Brock Getting the Boys In Step Early

I'm really sorry this was brought up. It's way out of context & to address it now would be a waste of time. Still, to summarize, there's good Steelbtexan & there's "I could have skipped reading that post" Steelbtexan. Even though you don't agree with Rick, or other members here, there are times when you contribute to the conversation, help it go forward. Then there are times when regardless what is happening now, we dwell on what was done years ago that has no bearing on the team now (or there's nothing anyone can do about it) or the team in the future.

When I wrote that bad Steelbtexan showed up for a couple of days. Weeks before & weeks after, we had/have been blessed with good Steelbtexan. & it wasn't necessarily that you wanted Wentz or whatever. Texian was going off & you were piling on. That's all that post was about.

This is the last I will post in this thread about Rick. We can take this discussion to the AE Rick thread.

As far as past Rick/present Rick you have to look at past Rick to be able to predict future Rick. There may be nothing that can be done but I thought this was a MB where thoughts/ideas were to be exchanged. You just dont agree with my thoughts on Rick and are entitled to your opinion. (Even if history says you're wrong. LOL)

Piling on, I wasn't piling on, I do agree with SOME of what Tex posts and some I dont agree with. If that's piling on to you so be it. I call it an exchange of thoughts and ides. I'm really trying to make an effort not to bring Rick's record up in other threads than the AE Rick thread, but posts like this make that a difficult proposition.

Does good Steel B = things I agree with and Bad Steel B = things I dont agree with?
 
I'm really trying to make an effort not to bring Rick's record up in other threads than the AE Rick thread, but posts like this make that a difficult proposition.

Does good Steel B = things I agree with and Bad Steel B = things I dont agree with?

Like I said. Sometimes you add to the discussion, even though you disagree with something the Texans did. Most of us will disagree with the Texans from time to time. So you're not different from most of us, most of the time.

Sometimes, there's no point in responding to what is usually a rant.

Good SteelB... good points, good discussion, worthy conversation

Bad SteelB... blinders on, akin to talking to brick wall.

You've been more good than bad lately & I appreciate that.
 
Like I said. Sometimes you add to the discussion, even though you disagree with something the Texans did. Most of us will disagree with the Texans from time to time. So you're not different from most of us, most of the time.

Sometimes, there's no point in responding to what is usually a rant.

Good SteelB... good points, good discussion, worthy conversation

Bad SteelB... blinders on, akin to talking to brick wall.

You've been more good than bad lately & I appreciate that.

I agree. steelbtexan has great knowledge and insight...when he's not ranting about Rick Smith. Once that comes up, I disengage.
 
Texans QB Brock Osweiler eager to work with new receivers' speed
By Aaron Wilson

May 9, 2016

As quarterback Brock Osweiler took in the details of the Texans' draft, it didn't take long for it to sink in that he'll have the benefit of some potentially dangerous deep threats to target when he scans the field.

The Texans drafted Notre Dame wide receiver Will Fuller in the first round. He's run the 40-yard dash as fast as 4.28 seconds. Then, they drafted Ohio State wide receiver and converted quarterback Braxton Miller in the third round. Although fairly imposing at 6-2, 201 pounds, Miller runs the 40-yard dash in 4.41 seconds.


"Absolutely,what quarterback doesn't like some speed on the outside?," Osweiler said Monday during the Texans' annual charity golf tournament. "Very exciting draft, but it was an exciting draft as a whole. Everybody we took I think will help this football team somewhere. As coaches say, it's about finding your role. We're coming together as a team, we're hitting the field and seeing what guys do well."

"I'm very excited to have the rookies in the building, but they have a lot to learn just like I have a lot to learn. Right now, it's just about coming together as a team. Working out together, sitting in meetings, throwing routes together, just getting to know each other as people and teammates and grow together."

Osweiler's primary agenda at this stage of the offseason is learning more about the Texans' playbook from offensive coordinator George Godsey and building his relationships with his new teammates. Signed to a four-year, $72 million contract after spending four years with the Denver Broncos, the former Arizona State star is hoping to get off to a fast start.

"You finish a season and it seems like you spend every waking minute in the building and all of a sudden it comes to an abrupt end," Osweiler said. "Everybody goes their separate ways and you go into offseason mode. Just to start OTAs and start meetings and start talking ball and throwing and being in the weight room together and getting back into shape, it's exciting. One of the most important things in this time period is getting to know your teammates, getting to know who you're going into battle with and going to dinner, hanging out off the field, getting to know families."

There are some parallels in terms of what Osweiler learned with the Broncos' system to the Texans' offense except for the terminology.

"It's hard to judge that progress because we haven't hit the practice field and gone against a defense," Osweiler said. "It's like you speak Spanish your whole life and then all of a sudden they tell you to go learn French and do it in front of 75,000 people. It's been fun. To come here and learn a new system, one thing I'm realizing is there are a lot of really good answers and things that go with this system if you're willing to put in the time and ask questions, good questions.

"Coach Godsey is a brilliant mind, a great teacher and it's been fun learning from him so far. There is certainly some carry-over from my previous four years which makes things a lot easier. I don't exactly feel like a rookie. I'm just trying to be a good teammate. come in the building every single day, work hard, get to know the guys and find my role. There's a lot of meetings and football talk going on right now."
 
I can't wait to see some football with Os and the rest of the offense so I can justify this smug feeling I get every time I read something about this young man.

I remember when they let Brock start and he went 5-2, I was thinking "why can't we have a Brock in waiting to be QB? The Broncos are the luckiest freakin' team to have that situation".

Then I remember wishfully thinking about having Brock as QB when Manning retired, and I was shocked - and still am a little bit - that he signed with the Texans as soon as free agency opened up.

While I don't want to let my hopes get up about Brock and I want to see how it all plays out...I'm not gonna' lie, my hopes are freakin' up about this guy! :texflag:

And I'm really stoked about the moves that the Texans have been making on offense to put a team around him. Beefing up the line, getting a stud RB, more WRs to work with out of the gate...it just has that feel that this is either going to be a great season or gloriously crash and burn. But it certainly does not have the mediocrity vibe of the past two off-seasons.
 
I remember when they let Brock start and he went 5-2, I was thinking "why can't we have a Brock in waiting to be QB? The Broncos are the luckiest freakin' team to have that situation".

Then I remember wishfully thinking about having Brock as QB when Manning retired, and I was shocked - and still am a little bit - that he signed with the Texans as soon as free agency opened up.

While I don't want to let my hopes get up about Brock and I want to see how it all plays out...I'm not gonna' like, my hopes are freakin' up about this guy! :texflag:

And I'm really stoked about the moves that the Texans have been making on offense to put a team around him. Beefing up the line, getting a stud RB, more WRs to work with out of the gate...it just has that feel that this is either going to be a great season or gloriously crash and burn. But it certainly does not have the mediocrity vibe of the past two off-seasons.
It's almost like OB is feeling his oats after back to back 9-7 seasons, with a playoff appearance, and playing eleventythreehundred QB's. He's starting to mold the team into his vision.
 
A must read!

[QUOTE]Houston Texans Brock Osweiler Has Become Public Enemy #1

Patrick Starr
Yesterday at 6:10 PM


For no rhyme or reason, Houston Texans quarterback Brock Osweiler has come under fire for no clear reason, except one.

While he walked away from the Denver Broncos, he has yet to take a snap as the Houston Texans, but quarterback Brock Osweiler is now a marked man for nothing more than doing what was right for him. The internet is littered with discussion on how terrible Osweiler is and will be for the Texans, as well as how the John Elway-led Broncos made the right choice in not overpaying for the quarterback.

The human element is forgotten when outsiders look to how players should handle themselves and their future. The tenure of Osweiler with the Broncos went from one of hope to a single, final regular season game of the 2015 season; a game which saw Osweiler replaced with Manning due to some unfortunate events of during that game.

No one wants to believe that Osweiler might have had enough with how the Broncos pushed him to the side on their run to the Super Bowl after he helped the team to a 5-2 record in his seven starts with the Broncos. The move in week 17 might have been warranted but what was not was how the Broncos brass expected for Osweiler to wait until the Broncos finally turned their attention to him. The Broncos were busy with the courting of sending off Peyton Manning off into retirement while Osweiler sat and waited.

There was an offer made to Osweiler by the Broncos and, despite the narrative, while the team did not want to overpay for him, they made him a considerable offer. According to Troy Renck of the Denver Postthe Broncos offered Osweiler $16 million a year with $30 million guaranteed. The Texans landed Osweiler on a four year deal worth $72 million ($18 million a year) with $37 million guaranteed.

From our good friend @The_Reliant, he put these two key facts out about the Osweiler situation.

The Z Facts
  • The Broncos offered Brock Osweiler just $2M less per year than the Texans ($16M vs. $18M) and just $3M per year less than they were scheduled to pay Peyton Manning in 2016 before retiring.
  • The Broncos offered Osweiler $30M guaranteed, just $7M less guaranteed than the Texans will pay him in his first two years of his deal.
Also……
  • The Houston Chronicle reported that Osweiler’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, never gave the Broncos a chance to match the Texans offer.
Sexton had told Osweiler to go dark and not return calls, texts or e-mails from the Broncos, including his teammates, until the agent had reached an agreement with one of the teams. Sexton didn’t want sentiment to play a role if he could avoid it.

Sexton never gave the Broncos a chance to match the Texans’ offer. Read more here.

With the Broncos not getting a chance to match, there is no telling what the counter offer would have been if Elway was given a chance. The Broncos were writing a pretty big check to retain Osweiler initially but, more importantly, no one wants to think that Elway might have dropped the ball and overestimated the loyalty of a NFL player.

Despite not wanting to “overpay” for Osweiler, the Broncos had a plan B that involved them trying to trade for Colin Kapernick who would not accept the trade for the pay cut they wanted him to take, courting Brian Hoyer with dinner, kicking the tires on Ryan Fitzpatrick, and finally trading for Mark Sanchez, who has been on a downward trend since his rookie season with the New York Jets. They had to wait nearly two months to draft a high ceiling quarterback in Paxton Lynch who, some are claiming, is a better quarterback, right now, over Osweiler.

We’ve stayed true to our philosophy of building a team with players who want to be Denver Broncos and want to be here. That’s been a successful approach for us,” Elway said, via the team’s official site.

“While we did offer a very competitive and fair long-term contract to Brock, we ultimately had to remain disciplined while continuing to assemble a roster that can compete for championships.”

Osweiler said in his introductory press conference that it went up to the wire between the Texans and Broncos.

“It wasn’t until yesterday. It was yesterday, it really did come down to the wire and I gave John Elway a phone call just to let him know the direction I was going to go into and that was a very hard phone call to make, but I told John out of the respect for him and everything he’s done for me he deserved it. It truly came down to the wire, but like I said before, I could not be more excited to be a Houston Texan and get to work.”

Osweiler and his agent played the free agent market exactly like all do when it comes to that key moment in a player's career: look for the highest bidder who appears to be the best fit. They did that by Osweiler not answering calls from teammates and coaches while his agent did the talking to interested teams.

Fast forward.
With sour grapes on how Osweiler left the Broncos, Osweiler and how he is acclimating to the Texans is not coming under fire. This past weekend where Osweiler was asked about the Texans playbook and he answered accordingly.

"It's like you speak Spanish your whole life and then they tell you to go learn French and do it in front of 75,000 people,” said Osweiler. "It's been fun. To come here and learn a new system, one thing I'm realizing is there are a lot of really good answers and things that go with this system if you're willing to put in the time and ask questions, good questions.”

That quote alone sent many into a frenzy questioning Osweiler’s mental capabilities. Some took this as Osweiler struggling with the offense and some quick to say that it could be too much for the new quarterback for the Texans.

What they left out was the following comment from Osweiler.

"That's what we're doing right now as a unit. Coach (George) Godsey is a brilliant mind, a great teacher and it's been fun learning from him so far. There is certainly some carry-over from my previous four years which makes things a lot easier. I don't exactly feel like a rookie."

What Osweiler is saying is no different than what Brandon Weeden said when he arrived to the Texans after being claimed by the Dallas Cowboys.

“I’ve been in a few systems in my four years and I’ve never been in this one, so it’s completely different than everything I’ve ever known but what I’m trying to do is kind of compare what’s similar and kind of translate into what I know verbally then learn it that way,” said Weeden. “I got it last night and I laid there like, ‘Oh my God, what am I looking at,’ but it’s a good system.”

Weeden had to cram all of the Texans playbook info in a matter of a week while Osweiler is over two and a half months away from taking a significant snap.

If anything, outside media and fans are honed in on the fact that someone would turn their back on Elway and the Broncos. Without touching the field, most are earmarking Osweiler as destined to fail with no real basis. He has become a marked man for doing what any business man would do, find the best situation for themselves to succeed.

If Osweiler does not meet expectations, and expectations are especially high with the contract he signed, then that will be another discussion all together. This has come down to people just not liking the fact that Osweiler is doing what was best for himself, not the team he left, and media darling, John Elway.

Time will tell how this story plays out, but right now, questioning everything that Osweiler does is nothing more than sour grapes by those predicting that a 5-2 quarterback tutored by one of the best leaders ever to hit the field in Peyton Manning, will be a failure because he left Elway's Broncos.
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I love it. A bunch of dimwits posting from a perspective of spiteful ignorance.

Last night, I was watching Brock O. being interviewed at Bob McNair's charity golf event this week. His demeanor and overall attitude really reminded me of Brady. His answers were sort of canned, but they were very much the right answers. Getting to personally know his teammates early. Working out together to build a bond. Same for hanging out in free time. Spending most of his time to absorb the playbook. He's got to know the offense better than the OC. He knows what is expected of him, and he appears to be all about embracing and excelling at it. That's what we want in our new QB at this time of year.

His French / Spanish comment was completely taken out of context by some people with agendas. The truth is that Kubiak ran a simple offense. Not a lot of options at the LOS. Listen to Rosenfel's interview about it. QBs like it because it is easy to manage. But they also admit its limitations, which is not the case for the more complex and much deeper gameplan offense that O'Brien uses. Brock is truly going to be a field general, able to really mix things up at the LOS based on what the defense is showing and based on tendencies that he and the coaches have studied. It is more complicated than Kubiak's, but it is also more deadly because they do not do the same thing over and over and over again.

Add to that the four years of understudy that Brock had with Manning, who by all accounts embraced the chance to mentor and coach a young QB. I do not think that kind of tutoring can be estimated, but I certainly think it is a huge bonus for Brock. And you can see Manning starting to position himself as a coach right now with working with Ryan Tannehill. Peyton knows his legacy is his career, but also perception. And he wants to leave an impact on pro football beyond his career as a player. I think he started implementing this attitude with Brock. They both speak very highly of each other.

Elway and Broncos fans are butthurt because, as the above article states, "Elway might have dropped the ball and overestimated the loyalty of a NFL player." As such, i cannot take anything they say seriously.

I personally think Brock is going to prove them all wrong. Who knows how high his ceiling can go, but I honestly feel like he can be as good as "good Schaub". And with this defense, just being that good can take this team deep into the postseason.
 
I love it. A bunch of dimwits posting from a perspective of spiteful ignorance.

Last night, I was watching Brock O. being interviewed at Bob McNair's charity golf event this week. His demeanor and overall attitude really reminded me of Brady. His answers were sort of canned, but they were very much the right answers. Getting to personally know his teammates early. Working out together to build a bond. Same for hanging out in free time. Spending most of his time to absorb the playbook. He's got to know the offense better than the OC. He knows what is expected of him, and he appears to be all about embracing and excelling at it. That's what we want in our new QB at this time of year.

His French / Spanish comment was completely taken out of context by some people with agendas. The truth is that Kubiak ran a simple offense. Not a lot of options at the LOS. Listen to Rosenfel's interview about it. QBs like it because it is easy to manage. But they also admit its limitations, which is not the case for the more complex and much deeper gameplan offense that O'Brien uses. Brock is truly going to be a field general, able to really mix things up at the LOS based on what the defense is showing and based on tendencies that he and the coaches have studied. It is more complicated than Kubiak's, but it is also more deadly because they do not do the same thing over and over and over again.

Add to that the four years of understudy that Brock had with Manning, who by all accounts embraced the chance to mentor and coach a young QB. I do not think that kind of tutoring can be estimated, but I certainly think it is a huge bonus for Brock. And you can see Manning starting to position himself as a coach right now with working with Ryan Tannehill. Peyton knows his legacy is his career, but also perception. And he wants to leave an impact on pro football beyond his career as a player. I think he started implementing this attitude with Brock. They both speak very highly of each other.

Elway and Broncos fans are butthurt because, as the above article states, "Elway might have dropped the ball and overestimated the loyalty of a NFL player." As such, i cannot take anything they say seriously.

I personally think Brock is going to prove them all wrong. Who knows how high his ceiling can go, but I honestly feel like he can be as good as "good Schaub". And with this defense, just being that good can take this team deep into the postseason.

Great post! For all the reasons you mentioned.......and more...........I feel that Brock will end up being that true "Franchise QB" we've always wanted...........one that will be hated and feared by more than just the Broncos..........:texflag:
 
Great post DB. I'm drinking the kool-aid at this point. Whatever we see in 2016 won't be the pinnacle though. It's going to be 17 or even 18 before we really peak on offense but on paper this offense is light years ahead of the last couple of years.
 
Thought it was loony reading the articles about how the genius GM Elway suddenly fixed the Broncos QB issue by drafting Paxton Lynch. Hell, I figure if the Texans went into the season with Sanchez as starter and Lynch (unproven rookie) as the second best option; not to many on here would have hopes for going to the playoffs. Since it's Elway though the media writes as if there is no way in hell this could go anyway but good. Which it just might, odds are it won't though.

At this point no one know how either the Broncos QB situation or Osweiler will play out. Gonna be fun watching though.
 
I love it. A bunch of dimwits posting from a perspective of spiteful ignorance.

Last night, I was watching Brock O. being interviewed at Bob McNair's charity golf event this week. His demeanor and overall attitude really reminded me of Brady. His answers were sort of canned, but they were very much the right answers. Getting to personally know his teammates early. Working out together to build a bond. Same for hanging out in free time. Spending most of his time to absorb the playbook. He's got to know the offense better than the OC. He knows what is expected of him, and he appears to be all about embracing and excelling at it. That's what we want in our new QB at this time of year.

His French / Spanish comment was completely taken out of context by some people with agendas. The truth is that Kubiak ran a simple offense. Not a lot of options at the LOS. Listen to Rosenfel's interview about it. QBs like it because it is easy to manage. But they also admit its limitations, which is not the case for the more complex and much deeper gameplan offense that O'Brien uses. Brock is truly going to be a field general, able to really mix things up at the LOS based on what the defense is showing and based on tendencies that he and the coaches have studied. It is more complicated than Kubiak's, but it is also more deadly because they do not do the same thing over and over and over again.

Add to that the four years of understudy that Brock had with Manning, who by all accounts embraced the chance to mentor and coach a young QB. I do not think that kind of tutoring can be estimated, but I certainly think it is a huge bonus for Brock. And you can see Manning starting to position himself as a coach right now with working with Ryan Tannehill. Peyton knows his legacy is his career, but also perception. And he wants to leave an impact on pro football beyond his career as a player. I think he started implementing this attitude with Brock. They both speak very highly of each other.

Elway and Broncos fans are butthurt because, as the above article states, "Elway might have dropped the ball and overestimated the loyalty of a NFL player." As such, i cannot take anything they say seriously.

I personally think Brock is going to prove them all wrong. Who knows how high his ceiling can go, but I honestly feel like he can be as good as "good Schaub". And with this defense, just being that good can take this team deep into the postseason.
Great post, man. I happen to think "Good Schaub" is Os' floor. No clue where the ceiling is, but that's not a bad floor.
 
Great post, man. I happen to think "Good Schaub" is Os' floor. No clue where the ceiling is, but that's not a bad floor.

I'm just hoping O'b can get it out of him.


These "O'b was overruled" stories are killing me. I need to believe O'b is 100% committed to helping Os succeed. 100% committed to winning, & not about proving a point.
 
Another story that emphasizes that at least from Jan, Ob specifically targeted Brock........then Smith and McNair made it happen. It also talks to Elway's true feelings regarding Brock..............before Brock refused to sign with the Broncos and evoked Elway's ire.

Brock Osweiler making a strong first impression with Texans
By John McClain
May 13, 2016
No player will play a more pivotal role in the Texans' success or failure than quarterback Brock Osweiler. His development is crucial to what coach Bill O'Brien wants to achieve in his third season.

So far, Osweiler has made a strong impression on his coaches and teammates - on and off the practice field - but he's a long way from taking his first snap in a regular season game.

"Right now, it's all about coming together as a team and (growing) together," Osweiler said last week.

Osweiler is playing for the Texans because he's the quarterback O'Brien targeted back in late January after watching tape of prospective free agents. He was at the top of O'Brien's wish list.


Once general manager Rick Smith came onboard and owner Bob McNair gave the green light for Smith to spend what he thought was necessary, they pursued the Denver Broncos' four-year veteran.


They haven't been disappointed in the early returns.

Since Osweiler signed his four-year, $72 million contract that included $37 million guaranteed, he has made a sincere effort to win over his new coaches and teammates.

This is the team's second week in which players can work with their coaches. On May 23, they are on the field for the first of 10 OTAs. The mandatory minicamp is June 14-16.

The coaches want to see how much of what Osweiler has learned translates smoothly to the field. Once he's on the field, they want to see progress and consistency.

Osweiler would have been ahead of the curve if he had remained in Denver, where he spent four seasons. He was familiar with his coaches and teammates and would have been entering his second season in coach Gary Kubiak's system.

It's interesting to see what Denver general manager John Elway said about Osweiler at the combine in late February, when just about everyone in the NFL thought he would re-sign with the Broncos.


"You never know what a quarterback can do until he gets in there, gets underneath the gun," Elway said. "I think he proved a lot to us. He's a guy that is a tough guy. He's a guy that will stand in there. He can make all the throws.


"Obviously, you always like to have a little bit more consistency, but that's what young guys continue to get better and better (at).


"I was really excited with the way Brock played. We wouldn't have been world champs without Brock."


Nobody will know for sure what kind of quarterback Osweiler will be until regular season begins against Chicago, but there are characteristics O'Brien and offensive coordinator George Godsey want from the most important position on the team.

They want their quarterback to have a strong work ethic. Osweiler reports for 8 a.m. meetings at 6. Not only does he arrive early, but he stays late. And it's obvious to everyone who works with him that he puts in a lot of time studying his playbook away from NRG Stadium.

O'Brien and Godsey want their quarterback to have strong leadership tendencies. Osweiler invited backup quarterback Tom Savage and the team's receivers to Scottsdale, Ariz., for private workouts. He took charge of those workouts. The more the offensive players get to know Osweiler, the more they gravitate to him.

When he's meeting with his coaches, Osweiler usually asks the right questions and has the correct answers.

"It's been fun to learn a new system," Osweiler said. "It's hard to judge that progress because we haven't hit the practice field and gone against a defense. It's like you speak Spanish your whole life, then all of a sudden one day they tell you to learn French and do it in front of 70,000 people."

O'Brien and Godsey have a complicated system that puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback at the line of scrimmage.

Godsey, who spends the most time coaching the quarterbacks, is careful not to cram too much down Osweiler's throat. Godsey won't give him more than he can handle.

"Coach Godsey is a brilliant mind (and) a great teacher, and it's been a lot of fun learning from him so far," Osweiler said. "The one thing I'm realizing is there's a lot of really good things that go with this system as long as you're willing to put in the time to study, ask good questions and learn."

Repetition helps Osweiler adjust to the Texans' system.

"One of the things as far as being a pro is building a routine and sticking to that routine," he said. "There's a lot of meetings right now, a lot of football talk going on. We'll talk about a protection or a run scheme, and it's kind of like, 'Oh, I've done that before. We just call it something different now.'

"It's not like I'm a rookie with no base to work from, but, obviously, there's a lot of new things to pick up and learn."
 
Well...... Laconfora says

I'm not buying Brock Osweiler as being an upgrade over Brian Hoyer in Houston until I see it. You can mock Hoyer all you want for the playoff meltdown, but I'll bet you the new quarterback doesn't sniff Hoyer's regular season numbers from a year ago even with all the shiny new weapons the Texans have now.

FYI, the Chicago Bear started 9 games (4-5, not counting the ugly play off loss) He completed 60% of his passes at 7.1 ypa & 2,606 yards. 19 TDs 7 Ints & a 91.4 passer rating.


I say we fire the lot of them... O'b, Smith, & Osweiler if Os can't sniff those lofty numbers.
 
Well...... Laconfora says



FYI, the Chicago Bear started 9 games (4-5, not counting the ugly play off loss) He completed 60% of his passes at 7.1 ypa & 2,606 yards. 19 TDs 7 Ints & a 91.4 passer rating.


I say we fire the lot of them... O'b, Smith, & Osweiler if Os can't sniff those lofty numbers.

I say CBS should fire Laconfora...........and let he and Hoyer ride hand-in-hand into the sunset together...........:chef:

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I could care less what his stats are, as long as he is able to have the team compete against the top caliber teams, and win more often than he loses in those games, I'll be satisfied.

Although I would absolutely love a Patriots style running up of the score against the really bad teams.
 
Jason Lac Cnfora can suck an egg.

Here's an easy comparison of value: how many teams lined up to sign Hoyer when he was cut? :cricket:

We know two teams placed a high value on Brock - Denver and Houston - and I have absolutely no doubt that several others would have joined if Brock had played free agency longer than a day.

hmmm....who do you trust?....La Canfora? Who has never even worked for an NFL team and has been a media doofus his entire career? Or, the actual NFL teams with professional scouts, analysts, and coaching staffs?

Now, back to how great Hoyer is and how many teams want him... :cricket:
 
I realize they're not still in Arizona, but does anyone know if Osweiller and the WR's are still working together on their own time? I need more stories that this team is jelling.
 
Is it just me, or is he a goofy f'ckr?

Just looks a little "goofy." I just saw him flash across my TV showing highlights of Jj Watt's softball classic & his skinny ass is wearing a big cowboy hat.

Now I've got nothing against cowboy hats, or people wearing cowboy hats. Some people look good in cowboy hats, some people look great wearing cowboy hats. Then there are those that look like the only reason they're wearing a cowboy hat is because they they think "everybody" in Texas wear cowboy hats.
 
Is it just me, or is he a goofy f'ckr?

Just looks a little "goofy." I just saw him flash across my TV showing highlights of Jj Watt's softball classic & his skinny ass is wearing a big cowboy hat.

Now I've got nothing against cowboy hats, or people wearing cowboy hats. Some people look good in cowboy hats, some people look great wearing cowboy hats. Then there are those that look like the only reason they're wearing a cowboy hat is because they they think "everybody" in Texas wear cowboy hats.
He's from Idaho/Montana. Lots of people up there wear cowboy hats. I wouldn't rush to judgement on that just because he's now in Texas.
 
Pretty good read about Brock and his mindset this year. Has that whole "being the best teammate I can be" thing down already.

New Team, Same Brock
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/05/19/brock-osweiler-houston-texans-nfl-quarterback

VRENTAS: The Texans were out for one main thing this offseason: To get themselves a quarterback. How does it feel to be “the guy?”

OSWEILER: It feels really good. But I also think that’s something that needs to be earned on a daily basis. Just because the McNair family, and Coach [Bill] O’Brien, and [GM] Rick Smith and went out and made me “their quarterback,” I need to go out there and earn that in the weight room, in the film room, on the practice field and everything else that goes along with that position. I have obviously been given that title, but that title is something that’s earned, and I need to continue to earn it.
 
He's from Idaho/Montana. Lots of people up there wear cowboy hats. I wouldn't rush to judgement on that just because he's now in Texas.

I'm not rushing to judgement, I'm saying what I think it looks like. It didn't look natural, like he's worn it all his life.
 
I kinda understand where TK is coming from. Some people wear a hat natural and some don't. It looks like a yankee wearing a hat. Didn't see the photos he saw but I get the distinction.
 
Rather certain they were just having a casual time at a charity get together ...

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Because I doubt this guy prefers cowboy hats regularly ...

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Of course, he could walk around with a bra on his head and scuba flippers on regularly if it means he's wearing goggles in the locker room at the end of the season.

After all, no one in Colorado seems to mind this guys headwear ...

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Rather certain they were just having a casual time at a charity get together ...

mmqb-brock-osweiler-softball.jpg


Because I doubt this guy prefers cowboy hats regularly ...

brock-osweiler-scarf.png


Of course, he could walk around with a bra on his head and scuba flippers on regularly if it means he's wearing goggles in the locker room at the end of the season.

After all, no one in Colorado seems to mind this guys headwear ...

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The goggles would accessorize nicely with the scuba flippers...just sayin'...
 
Just like Peyton, Brock didn't like Kubiak's system because it handcuffed him and forced him to be a puppet, whether the system worked game time or not. He liked O'Brien's because he was given the system and the responsibility along with the freedom to make the system work.
 
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Just like Peyton, Brock didn't like Kubiak's system because it handcuffed him and forced him to be a puppet, whether the system worked game time or not. He liked O'Brien's because he was given the system and the responsibility along with the freedom to make the system work.

And Peyton wanted to work for Kubiak. Odd.
 
Sorry, pick a story. Peyton is the smartest QB ever, saw 13 years of Kubiak and somehow wants to be "limited" or the offense isn't quite so limited.

Pick a storyline.
 
Sorry, pick a story. Peyton is the smartest QB ever, saw 13 years of Kubiak and somehow wants to be "limited" or the offense isn't quite so limited.

Pick a storyline.

How about this storyline, Kubiak is a great guy who's an avg HC. He was lucky Cincy wouldn't let Joseph out of his contract and he got stuck with Wade.
 
How about this storyline, Kubiak is a great guy who's an avg HC. He was lucky Cincy wouldn't let Joseph out of his contract and he got stuck with Wade.

I'm sorry, were you talking offense? No.

Don't think I ever saw Peyton line up on D.

But did hear him want to come play with the dumbest, most predictable, simple, QB disabling offense around. Hmmm, go figure. Was he right or stupid fans?
 
I'm sorry, were you talking offense? No.

Don't think I ever saw Peyton line up on D.

But did hear him want to come play with the dumbest, most predictable, simple, QB disabling offense around. Hmmm, go figure. Was he right or stupid fans?

Peyton really didn't have a choice other than to play for Kubiak or retire.

Do you think Kubiak is more than an avg HC? Check out his record.
 
Peyton really didn't have a choice other than to play for Kubiak or retire.

Do you think Kubiak is more than an avg HC? Check out his record.

Lol - now Peyton had no choice.

Wasn't talking about HC. Real clearly talking offense. Typical for you to attempt subject change.

OFFENSE - is that clear? Wait OFFENSE - for the slow. Wait, OFFENSE for the stupid.

Yes I am rude sometimes.

I am very twitchy without my bike.
 
Peyton really didn't have a choice other than to play for Kubiak or retire.

Do you think Kubiak is more than an avg HC? Check out his record.
All I know is that Kubes is the reigning SB champ.
Hasn't that been the bottom line?
As crazy Al once said, "Just win baby".
 
I just don't think much of anyone who believes Kubiak's offense hamstrings his QB. They just don't understand & that's all there is to it. If that means I don't think much of Brock... that means I don't think much of Brock.

As far as Peyton goes, the only thing I know of that he didn't like about Kubiak's offense, was that he had to play under center more than he's comfortable with. That's it.
 
All I know is that Kubes is the reigning SB champ.
Hasn't that been the bottom line?
As crazy Al once said, "Just win baby".

Yep, and I use this as proof that you need a certain amount of luck to win a SB. What's Kubiak's record again?
 
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