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But isn't it more difficult to successfully execute your passing attack when the defense knows that's what you have to do to come from behind??That's a very misleading stat. He threw over 4500 once in 2009. And when your playing from behind a lot with no run game (see 2010 season) of course your gonna throw the ball more and gain stats.
This is where I think O'Brien is now; how can he tell how much it's all Fitz when other guys are screwing up their assignments.Lastly, you're forgetting that those types of plays take time to develop. What on earth makes you think that Mallett/Savage are going to have more time to sit in the pocket than Fitz has had thus far? If anything those guys would probably have less time as defenses would take advantage of their inexperience. It ain't about being content with Fitz, it's about recognizing realties.
This is where I think O'Brien is now; how can he tell how much it's all Fitz when other guys are screwing up their assignments.
It's a matter of reducing variables. First, let's make sure everyone is doing their job and doing it effectively.
Remember how sucky the Patriots looked when their youngsters weren't on the same page as Brady? Then, against the Bengals, the receivers started running the right routes and the line started picking up blitzes properly, and SHAZAAM!, the Patriots' offensive machine was back in business.
I'm beginning to believe that O'Brien thinks if we're competitive in every game even with not everyone consistently doing their assignments, how good will we be once all the players learn those assignments and don't screw them up?
Now achieving this wondrous state of offensive nirvana might take the rest of the year or they might click in the very next game. Who the hell knows? I do know when the Pats finally got there this season, they looked unstoppable
...and they don't have an Arian Foster, a Andre Johnson, or a Nuk Hopkins.
(of course we don't have a Brady or a Gronk, so there's that)
Mixed Schaub and Ryan so...
Yeah that's not really looking deeper. Schaub out performed Harvard boy at not taking sacks. Up to his injury he was great when blitzed.
But when we dig a little deeper we notice the protection. Schaub had compared to what Ryan has... In only about 2 years this teams strong suit turned into a weak point
Hell people bitched about Schaub when he was at his best .....
I'm beginning to believe that O'Brien thinks if we're competitive in every game even with not everyone consistently doing their assignments, how good will we be once all the players learn those assignments and don't screw them up?
Now achieving this wondrous state of offensive nirvana might take the rest of the year or they might click in the very next game. Who the hell knows? I do know when the Pats finally got there this season, they looked unstoppable
...and they don't have an Arian Foster, a Andre Johnson, or a Nuk Hopkins.
(of course we don't have a Brady or a Gronk, so there's that)
Put Schaub behind this same OL & I bet it looks 10 times better. Not because Schaub can escape pressure, or has better presence, but because he does a better job of reading the defense before & after the snap, & he makes a decision & throws the ball without all the second guessing Fitz does... well, back in the day when Schaub was putting up big numbers that is. Last year's Schaub, not so much which is why he's gone.
This is not a defense of Schaub as much as it is an indictment of Fitzpatrick.
And why was he taking less sacks?? Because the entire OLine than we're all pro bowl caliber
Put Schaub behind this same OL & I bet it looks 10 times better. Not because Schaub can escape pressure, or has better presence, but because he does a better job of reading the defense before & after the snap, & he makes a decision & throws the ball without all the second guessing Fitz does... well, back in the day when Schaub was putting up big numbers that is. Last year's Schaub, not so much which is why he's gone.
This is not a defense of Schaub as much as it is an indictment of Fitzpatrick.
He was behind this same line...& he set a record for pick 6's.....his lis franc had very little to do with the brain farts he was having last year that caused all those pick 6's too.
He said he wasn't talking about last year.
And his lis franc injury had a lot to do with last year. Pull up film of him pre-injury and last year and compare his feet and legs.
And Schaub throwing for 4700 yards is somewhat misleading..Those 2 years were more like an anomaly of sorts anyway. This guy threw for 4000 yds and like 40 TD's 1 year. We know how his career turned out.
One year with a 90+ QB rating in a 75 QB rating career is an anomaly. 5 years in a row of 90+ following an 87 is not an anomaly.
No...which is why i said he was a good qb for what we needed at the time.....but we weren't talking about his qb rating...we were talking about his 4700 yd season. and for a qb of his caliber to top 4300 much less 4700...it was an anomaly. Literally career highs across the board for him in every major statistical category that year. Never got close before or after in any season he played most of the games.
The Texans record is not evidence that Fitzpatrick has played at an acceptable level. It's indicative of the superior play of Watt, Foster, and others. The Texans have 3 wins in spite of Fitzpatrick. Not because of him.
I can see this. Anyone saying that Fitzpatrick gives us the best chance to win now is off their rocker. The only thing Fitz has over Mallet is that he's played a lot of football & seen a lot of things. It would make sense that our team would progress faster with a salty vet, & if that's OB's reasoning, I can't fault him.
That "magic" that we see between the 1st & 2nd half kinda points to this, imo. Against the Colts, looks like that "magic" happened in the 2nd qtr, but being down 24-0 kinda skews a lot of things.
We've got nine days to prepare for the Steelers, let's hope we don't come out flat.
So O'Brien is "off his rocker"? Have you told him? Either you agree with O'Brien or you don't. You like to condemn him in one sentence an then say you agree with him in the next. So what is it? Do you agree with his decision to stay with Fitzpatrick or not?
I'll speak slower.
I don't agree with anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick gives us the best chance to win now.
If O'Brien thinks the offense will progress faster with Fitzpatrick it makes sense.
Those are not contradictory statements.
I'll speak slower.
I don't agree with anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick gives us the best chance to win now.
If O'Brien thinks the offense will progress faster with Fitzpatrick it makes sense.
Those are not contradictory statements.
Lol, this makes 0 sense T-skyss.
How can you possibly believe the bolded when the only 2 other options have not shown anything here or anywhere else that they in fact do give us a better chance to win now?
You believing those guys to be better options doesn't qualify as fact..just speculation.
Fitzpatrick has been okay, but there's no way you can tell me that we can definitively state, as fans, whether Mallett would be better or worse than him in the offense. We just don't know...
The idea is that OB is holding the offense back for a reason. It's easy to believe Fitzpatrick is that reason. It doesn't matter if Mallet is better/worse. OB will protect him like he's protecting Fitz. If he can't trust Mallet after six weeks, it's time to move on. Then he can try to protect Savage for four weeks.
The coaching staff? Who regularly see both QB's in practice and made a decision based on what they see?...What is it about Fitzpatrick that gives us a better chance to win? Be specific...
The coaching staff? Who regularly see both QB's in practice and made a decision based on what they see?
The idea is that OB is holding the offense back for a reason. It's easy to believe Fitzpatrick is that reason. It doesn't matter if Mallet is better/worse. OB will protect him like he's protecting Fitz. If he can't trust Mallet after six weeks, it's time to move on. Then he can try to protect Savage for four weeks.
The coaching staff? Who regularly see both QB's in practice and made a decision based on what they see?
Perhaps had the defense and special teams not given up 24 POINTS IN THE FIRST QUARTER the Texans would have won and been in first place. It doesn't take a genius to see this.
The coaching staff? Who regularly see both QB's in practice and made a decision based on what they see?
The idea is that OB is holding the offense back for a reason. It's easy to believe Fitzpatrick is that reason. It doesn't matter if Mallet is better/worse. OB will protect him like he's protecting Fitz. If he can't trust Mallet after six weeks, it's time to move on. Then he can try to protect Savage for four weeks.
If only the offense could of stayed on the field more than 3 total minutes in the first quarter, they could of caught their breath and actually stayed with TY Hilton.
(on if QB Ryan Fitzpatrick is locked in as the starting quarterback) “He’s our starter. That’s what I was trying to say. Again, I’m trying to articulate this the right way. You look at numbers on a piece of paper, yeah, you can look at anybody’s numbers and you can decide how you want to define those numbers. When you look at the film, the film never lies. What the film shows us is that everybody on offense has to play better. Everybody. The line has to play better, the backs have to play better, the tight ends, the receivers and we have to coach better. We’ve got to get these players to understand better what we want them to do. And I think once we start seeing that, we see more consistent play from everyone, then all the positions will be in better shape including quarterback. Again, I think it comes down to a lot of times last night he was hit in his fifth step or his third step and he had a guy right in his face or maybe there was a miscommunication on his part of what we were trying to do. And he has to clean that up himself. Everybody has to do better.”
O'Brien says it's not just Fitz, it's everybody.
We fuked up. We thought we'd be rebuilding this year & the team wouldn't be playing well enough to win four games. We knew we'd be able to win a few games if Arian ran well, but we didn't expect him to be able to run like this. We tried our best to sabotage him with 55 carries a game, but the S.O.B. just keeps getting stronger. We've tried to keep Cushing off the field as much as possible so that Watt would be out there by himself, but that son-of-a-gun really can do everything by himself.
Heck, we won three games so far & we really weren't trying, I know you caught that 3rd & 2 call when I took Arian out of the backfield.... almost screwed up & won that one. But we're sticking with Fitzpatrick until Mallet signs a long term deal. I feel good about him, from the time I spent with him in New England, Godsey feels good about him, believes he can be a franchise guy. But Ryan feels good about his ability & he's deadset on hitting free agency.
We figure if we win one more game without him, he'll cave. He really wants to play, to show what he can do, but we're not going to let him use us to bolster his value in free agency. So unless Fitzpatrick gets hurt, or Mallet signs, we're sticking with Fitz...... when Arian blows a hammy, then the fans will understand we're not going to win many games until I get more of my guys on the roster.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...lability/646aa359-ab13-49c9-9aba-694566d01b7b(on if QB Ryan Mallett is where he wants him to be) “He is. He’s really worked hard. He’s had a good week of practice this week. He has good command out there both in the huddle and at the line of scrimmage. He’s working to be more consistent on a day-to-day basis with throwing the ball, accuracy. He’s got a fantastic arm. He’s worked very hard to get better and better at all the different throws that we ask him to make. He’s definitely where we want him to be and we just need him to keep working to get better. He’s worked very hard. He’s been here early, stayed late. Been a big help on game day on the side line, so he’s where we thought he’d be.”
(on if the transition has been smooth for QB Ryan Mallett because he is coming from a similar system) “Yeah. I think there is two things that I saw with Ryan was the first thing you just said that the transition was smoother because he knew the offense, at least the basis of it, and he had worked with myself and George Godsey before. He knew our coaching style. He knew kind of how we did things. I think the other thing you see is that he obviously took some great things from backing up Tom Brady for three years. His command in the huddle, his command at the line of scrimmage, his knowledge of little things within the offense, you can see that. It’s been good to see that.”
(on if QB Ryan Mallett plays a significant role on game day) “He does. He does a good job. He’s got the ear piece where he can hear the play call. He knows what we’re looking for on the different plays. I can tell you in some games he’s had some decent things that he’s seen out there. We ask those guys to see that. Hey, what did you see between series and things like that? He’s had some really good view points.”
Addressing what needs to be addressed...
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...lability/646aa359-ab13-49c9-9aba-694566d01b7b
I think this is at least the second time you've posted this. I speak coachspeak, so let me translate....
I think this is at least the second time you've posted this. I speak coachspeak, so let me translate....
TK, my friend....
A day may come when common sense eludes me and sanity fails me and I start to believe this conspiracy theory of yours
but it is not THIS day
If only the offense could of stayed on the field more than 3 total minutes in the first quarter, they could of caught their breath and actually stayed with TY Hilton.
Agree with every word.Common sense says we didn't sign Fitzpatrick to be our starting QB. Look at the money. Look at his history. Veteran back-up, sure. Mentor... eh, maybe. But it takes a different sort of cat to look at Fitzpatrick & say, "Yup... that's my starting QB."
Something went wrong. & what we're hearing from OB is the equivalent of "It's on me."
Go back & look at the pressers from Kubiak after each & every Schaub pick six...... "It's not just the QB." "The whole team has to play better."
SSDD
The Colts had the ball in the first 8 minutes of the game for 5:34 and 18 offensive plays on their first three drives to go up 17-0. Not one of those three drives lasted 3 minutes and they all went for 54-56 yards.
Are you suggesting that to start the game, the defense was not in shape/conditioning to play 5 minutes worth of football on 18 snaps during three different series on half of the field? And that this is somehow the fault of the offense?
Agree with every word.
I, too, see more similarities than differences.
I still hold hope that when this roster knows this offense as well as they knew the previous one, we will be a very tough out... for anybody.
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That quarter was IMO just a perfect example of What happens when the O and the D **** the bed at the exact same time.
I think its like the difference in learning a new language and knowing well enough to be fluent in it. Even when you think you know a new language you struggle for the right words and have no clue about slang or dialects.[/b]
I have heard this at different times. Hasn't the team been exposed to this offense since April, when they had their first minicamp? Haven't they had a training camp, four preseason games, and six regular season games to get to "know" this offense? The only thing these offensive players have had to do over the last six months is to learn this offense- why does it take so long?
I know this may be a very naïve question, and if I'm off base, please correct me. It just seems this is used as an excuse far too often. These guys are getting paid big money to learn this- shouldn't they have done it by now?
I think its like the difference in learning a new language and knowing well enough to be fluent in it. Even when you think you know a new language you struggle for the right words and have no clue about slang or dialects.
To put it another way, Fitz may kinda know the this offense, Tom Brady is fluent in it.
I think its like the difference in learning a new language and knowing well enough to be fluent in it. Even when you think you know a new language you struggle for the right words and have no clue about slang or dialects.
To put it another way, Fitz may kinda know the this offense, Tom Brady is fluent in it.
Brian Hoyer is using the Shanahan version up in Cleveland too. He's using it to put Manziel on the sidelines with it.Doesn't look like Flacco is having any difficulty learning Kubiak's offense.