TEXANRED
Texan-American
It's not about the money, it's about being a Head Coach.
He is a damn good coach and a Head Coach with a winning record.
We could always fire Kubiak and give the Job to Wade.
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The Wade Phillips Thread - Status: Not a Candidate for Tampa
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It's not about the money, it's about being a Head Coach.
He is a damn good coach and a Head Coach with a winning record.
We could always fire Kubiak and give the Job to Wade.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
It is. No worse then the Pat's losing their OC to Penn State.
The NFL should review their rules on when you should be able to interview coach's.
Don't get me wrong, I hate it. I would love Wade to stay here but I figured this was going to be a one year gig if he completely turned around our defense.
I just hope we don't promote Dennison to DC after Wade leaves.
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
BS!! He's been a HC before so your comparison is irrelevent! He'll be sticking it to his hometown pure and simple!!
Maybe we need to get rid of them both!! ( Kubes and Wade!) Hometown boys who are screwing us over during the playoffs!! Kubes has been doing this crap since he landed in Houston. Bringing um in, giving um a chance, using the Texans as a training ground, and then BAM, sending them on their way!!
Why is everyone getting so freaked out about this? Phillips is going to interview for the job. It will probably take a hour or so out of his day. He has a well-known resume, so it's not like he's some DC looking to get his 1st HC job and it's going to eat up a lot of time.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
He wants to be a H/C. He has said he wanted to be a H/C and should be a H/C. This shouldn't be surprising anyone.
Tampa shouldn't be asking during our playoff run though.
jjjezebel
¡Ay, caramba!
I'm not angry so much that he's interviewing. It's the timing. I worry about it being a distraction in the locker room, and causing unnecessary drama. I worry about it affecting the morale of the defense.
I'm irritated because it's making a lot of fans unhappy (including myself) at a time when we should be pumped. He should have waited until the season was over. If TB wants him bad enough they'd wait until the season is over for us, regardless of when.
It's a matter of principle, and his actions are lacking in that department -IMO of course.
Doppelganger
None
The NFL is a business. He could have easily been fiRed down the line, just as bum was. He wants to be a hc, not a dc, so I can't blame him. There is no loyalty on either side, so why should we expect any from either side. Ok, he is from houston...so what? I guarantee if the texans thought they could get a better dc they'd get rid of wade. Same thing here.
Doppelganger
None
I am just irritated because for the first time kubes has had a legit dc. I am irritated because I am sure kubes will promote from within and the team will regress to a 7 win (or less) team next year.
Say Watt
Hall of Fame
If Tampa Bay is his dream position, then I feel pretty bad for him. He has also already achieved that job he "worked damn hard for 40 years to earn" and has been a head coach numerous times. What he hasn't done is win a Super Bowl. It is a long shot but this year is his chance. He just proved that isn't what really matters to him. A Super Bowl is not his ultimate goal he has worked 40 years to achieve. Wade is an arrogant SOB.
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
That makes no sense! We don't NEED a better DC! Daddy Bob hired Wade to do that job, paid him nicely, (isn't he one of the best paid DC in the NFL?) and expected him to DO THAT JOB!! He's done a fantastic job so far, but, his job IS NOT DONE here!! Doing this NOW will disrupt the locker room, you can bet on it! NO, it shouldn't because those players are PROS, but, they are also human. If it's effected us this way, why not the players?
Like I posted earlier, I know this stuff happens in the NFL, and I really could care less if he leaves. The fact that he's doing this NOW just reeks of disrespect to a franchise who hired him when NOONE else would! JMO!!
aussie_texan
Veteran
his not going anywhere!!!
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
WHY in the hell would we do that, and if you look closely i have seen 2 posts suggest that. Yeah lets fire the coach who took us to the play-offs and who just got our first play off win. And people can say this is all because of wade, but we missed foster for 4 games, AJ for 8, Schaub lost for the season, Leinart lost for the season. And we clinch the South with a 5th round rookie.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
False Start
On # 69
In the end, I think Wade will stay as Texans DC. The whole timing of it though is kind of jacked up.
I understand the irritation. I don't understand all abject hatred being put out by GP, She Texan, et al.
Phillips wouldn't resign prior to the end of the season. He would coach all the way to the Super Bowl, if the team makes it that far.
Phillips is a respected defensive coach who likely could have found another coordinator position, had the Texans not offered the job.
From Jason La Canfora of NFL.com:
Mike Sherman? Not good enough for the SEC. But good enough for Tampa Bay? That would be a weird hire. #crossfingers
I'll tell you what: If and when Wade actually interviews for the job, we'll make it a new thread. Until then, its speculation.
If Wade gets the TB job. (I dont think he will) I could see Wade giving his blessings to Herring getting the DC job, BoB hiring Herring and extending Gary for 3 more yrs and the Texans returning to 9-7, 7-9.
GP
Go Texans!
It's called HYPERBOLE. With a sprinkle of anxiousness and a dash of Texans Homer.
That whooshing sound is all of it passing over your head.
"Hatred" isn't fitting as a description. Grab a dictionary.
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Hyperbole ( /haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-pur-bə-lee;[1] Greek: ὑπερβολή, 'exaggeration') is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.
utahmark
markbeth
I know it's the way ya'll do it. Just throwing my vote for it to change. Anytime something is important enough to change the title of the thread seems like it should have it's own thread. It would only add one or two more threads a week(if that) and it would make it a lot easier for the people who only check the board once every day or so.
Doppelganger
None
I hear you, but disagree. Contracts in the NFL are one year only as they can be ripped up by the team at anytime. Wade was brought in to turnaround the d and he did. I would say he certainly did the job.
And I disGree that nobody would have hired him. It was pretty much known he wanted to coach the d here and the team wanted him. Had we not wanted him, he would have gotten Another dc position guaranteed.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Back to kubiocrity!
blitz90
jock strap
If Wade goes for another head coaching job, why would he stay in Houston & not follow Wade? He's got a history with Wade, Wade has always taken care of ihm. Wade "wanting" to be a head coach may be just as much for Herring as it is about Wade.
Regardless, I think it would be interesting to speculate who would replace Wade, should he leave.
bckey
All Pro
"We'll talk and see how much interest (the Bucs) have in me," Phillips told the Chronicle. "I'm gratified somebody noticed. I don't want to leave Houston, but I want to be a head coach."
Sure sounds like he will leave if he gets the chance. Pretty crappy if you ask me. I would have thought he would be really happy in Houston being one of the highest paid dc and coaching close to home. If he leaves after 1 year then he can kiss my a$$. I'm with SheTexan on this one. And I'm a big fan of Bum and thought the Wade hiring was a good one. 1 year would be an insult. If Wade was hired you can bet alot of the assistant coaches here would follow. It would be devistating to this team and an insult to the defensive players. Terrible timing. Who knows what players would follow him also. I hope the Bucs hire Sherman and Wade ends up staying. This no good in a bunch of different ways. Sheesh!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825d019e/article/bucs-could-make-decision-on-sherman-as-coach-this-week?module=HP11_headline_stack
Sure sounds like he will leave if he gets the chance. Pretty crappy if you ask me. I would have thought he would be really happy in Houston being one of the highest paid dc and coaching close to home. If he leaves after 1 year then he can kiss my a$$. I'm with SheTexan on this one. And I'm a big fan of Bum and thought the Wade hiring was a good one. 1 year would be an insult. If Wade was hired you can bet alot of the assistant coaches here would follow. It would be devistating to this team and an insult to the defensive players. Terrible timing. Who knows what players would follow him also. I hope the Bucs hire Sherman and Wade ends up staying. This no good in a bunch of different ways. Sheesh!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825d019e/article/bucs-could-make-decision-on-sherman-as-coach-this-week?module=HP11_headline_stack
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
If we win the Baltimore game, would it have made you happier if he interviewed next week?
Isn't Friday the day the team doesn't practice? That's probably why they're doing it that day. They set up their game plan and practice from Monday-Thursday, IIRC. Friday is just a walkthrough I think. If there's any day to interview, Friday would be it.
Lurvinator11
Veteran
I would not be surprised if Tampa went with Sherman. I feel like they want to develop Freeman into a good QB and build around him. They feel Sherman would be great for that. Lets hope they hire Sherman.
Also hiring Wade wouldnt make sense. He wouldn't be there too long cause he is already 64. He would be the oldest HC. If they thought they were a defense away from a championship then take wade, but i think it all falls on freeman and he needs more development.
Take sherman!
Also hiring Wade wouldnt make sense. He wouldn't be there too long cause he is already 64. He would be the oldest HC. If they thought they were a defense away from a championship then take wade, but i think it all falls on freeman and he needs more development.
Take sherman!
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Coaching contracts aren't for one year, and NFL coaches (even assistants) can't be let go without either being paid the remainder of their contract, or negotiating a buy out. Big difference from the players in this regard.
I completely agree that Wade would have pretty easily found another DC job, and that's why I don't have a problem with what appears to be going on. The Texans were desparate for defensive improvement, and they made him the highest paid DC in the league. Sounds like both sides got something out of the bargain, and if Wade ends up moving on (which for the record, I still do not think he will), then I'm not sure how either side gets cheated or mistreated, or however you want to characterize it.
GP
Go Texans!
Careful, you're spewing hatred there. [/sarcasm]
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
The Bucs are interviewing Brad Childress on Monday according to ESPN, so I don't think it's anywhere near a certainty that Wade gets this job, much less any other. Fisher is likely to sign with St Louis too, so that will narrow down the options for Wade.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7438946/tampa-bay-buccaneers-interview-brad-childress-monday-sources-says
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7438946/tampa-bay-buccaneers-interview-brad-childress-monday-sources-says
GP
Go Texans!
If Wade really wants TB's job...all he has to do is talk to him and find out where the good strip clubs are, where the best price on beer is at, and how to cheer the Texans on game days. I'm sure Texan Bill (TB) would oblige.
Texan Bill can take Wade's headset and call the plays for the defense. Seems like a good idea. Right?
Texan Bill can take Wade's headset and call the plays for the defense. Seems like a good idea. Right?
rush2112mn
Rookie
The Glazer Brothers own the Bucs.....guess who else they own.....MANCHESTER UNITED....go look and see where all their money is going to......a global sports team such as Manchester....vs Tampa Bay......
ManU....gets the money.....Tampa does not.....
Go ask the Bucs fans if they like the Glazer brothers as owners.....they will tell you hell no.....I feel sorry for that teams fans because the ownership of that team will not spend the money needed vs spending it all on ManU.....
In other words....you want to go head coach there Wade.....be prepared for not getting any money for crap.....cause you wont......
Glazer Brothers are a joke as owners......If you doubt what I say is true....go look at how much they spend on both teams......it is not even funny......
ManU....gets the money.....Tampa does not.....
Go ask the Bucs fans if they like the Glazer brothers as owners.....they will tell you hell no.....I feel sorry for that teams fans because the ownership of that team will not spend the money needed vs spending it all on ManU.....
In other words....you want to go head coach there Wade.....be prepared for not getting any money for crap.....cause you wont......
Glazer Brothers are a joke as owners......If you doubt what I say is true....go look at how much they spend on both teams......it is not even funny......
Why not provide a link?
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
They were cruddy owners before they ever bought ManU, and you're right, it's only gotten worse since then. Part of the reason Raheem Morris was promoted to HC without ever serving as a coordinator for them was because he would work cheap.
GP
Go Texans!
LOL.
Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true Doc.
People vent on this issue the way they want to. That's all that's happening. No lecturing from you is needed on whether people's feelings or posts are valid or not.
Some are indifferent to the situation, others think they know he won't leave for TB, and some are rattled that Wade has mentioned being a HC on many occasions before this whole TB stuff happened. Because people don't like it, and because they might let their irritation show on the MB here...doesn't mean it's hatred. Hyperbole? Yes. Hatred? LOL, nope.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
The Buc's are to the NFL as the Pittsburgh Pirates are to the MLB. Cheap cheap cheap and will be greatly affected by the cap floor in 2013.
GP
Go Texans!
Without finding a link, I know that we've discussed on here how the Bucs are EXTREMELY well below the salary cap. As in, "They can go and by a lot of groceries" if they wanted to. As in, leaps and bounds and far and away the leader of the pack in salary cap space.
This was discussed in the lockout days during the summer.
GP
Go Texans!
Yep. They're going to have to let go of some money under the new CBA. Which is one of the reasons for introducing the new rule...it makes teams ATTEMPT to stay competitive--via doling out cash to players--instead of pocketing and saving so much money, especially when they tank and get paid on the whole team revenue sharing aspect of the NFL.
You can begin to see why the richer teams would be likely to dislike the smaller market teams such as Bills and Bucs, etc. These teams are not fielding competitive teams, not really expanding their product much at all, and STILL get to share revenue with the rich teams. The rich teams, in essence, are keeping the Bills and Bucs and Jags afloat and there's no punishment against a team like the Bucs for not spending their cap space enough. Until now.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Whether right or wrong, even if he fails to land the HC position.......after his recent comments, many Houston fans will never again see Wade with the same loveable endearment and reverence that is his father.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
BTW, Fat Albert would really enjoy Wade and 3-4 coming to town.
I'm a repeat offender in venting. I'm emtionally wiped out after yesterday, so you caught me in a moment of no sense of humor or hyperbole. LOL
I thought that was the Jags.
GP
Go Texans!
Yep. For the more savvy fan, the bloom is off the rose.
He had a shot at maybe becoming a bit of an icon here. And he might still accomplish it if he changes some stripes. But doggone if it doesn't look like he's hell-bent for leather to get another HC gig ANYWHERE he can get one.
I mean, he's not "looking" to be one, but he will listen...and he's happy where he's at but he still wants to be a HC again. LOL.
Wade Phillips: Defensive Coordinator extraordinaire. Public Relations genius? Not so much.
fiasco west
All Pro
GP
Go Texans!
They're in the club, no doubt.
Guys like Jerry Jones would LOVE to see teams like Bills, Bucs, Jags, etc. fold up and go away. To him, he sees them as holding back everyone because they are in essence leeching off his Cowboys. Think "welfare system" if you will.
If a team ain't contributing to the pile of chips pom the table, they're taking away from it.
GP
Go Texans!
Odds are more favorable of him sticking around, getting more help via the draft, free agency maybe as well, and hopefully shutting his pie hole about wanting to be a HC again.
If that happens, he and Kubiak could string together several awesome seasons and have great chances on an annual basis.
Just my two cents, not saying it's HOW it will play out. Just saying this would be most advantageous to us if he sort of figured out he was no longer a true HC candidate anymore. As it stands, dude is gonna' leave if somebody extends the offer his way.