ThaShark316
#28
I'm starting to think I want Smith GONE now.
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Hasn't he tested our patience for 9 years? How many more tests do we have to pass?So is McNair testing the fans?
So when I take into account how a Pro Bowler like OD voiced his opinion during the offseason concerning his contract, then all of a suddent we draft two TE in the draft....you can speculate.
Go Team Milquetoast!!!
You are a wonderful fan...... the Texans are lucky to have you.
Rep to Lombardi, via bckey.Lombardi said:Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
If you can accept losing, you can't win.
That's one hell of a point. At first I thought it was sort of funny that they kept drafting all these TE's. I thought we were good with Hill and Casey.
Then I thought we had a plan when we drafted 2 more TE's this year. I guess the plan was to hope they could get on the active roster. I thought they had an idea what they were doing.
Now it looks like they just pissed away 2 or 3 draft picks.
Go Team Milquetoast!!!
What a joke McNair is.
...becomes a real NFL head coach. And not a menu-toting, meek hermit as he is every freakin' Sunday.
This might make me start drinking again.
Glad to see you back, swisher.
That's the problem I have. Do I continue to give this man my hard-earned $$$ for a piss poor product? I feel like an enabler. I love the NFL. I've been a NFL fan since I can remember. A big reason I moved back to Houston was that we received the expansion team over LA. I've missed fewer than 10 home games (including preseason) since the team arrived.
But, it's not just my decision. I go to games and tailgate with a group of friends. I've told them all season to be patient, that McNair would have no choice but to blow this thing up with another failed season. These guys are not quite the fanatic I am. They love the tailgates, and the ambiance of the pregame festivities. But, they hate the product. I think the consensus will be to dump the tickets. I can't argue against it, because in my heart I feel this move will be yet another disaster.
If Parcells could be hired as team president, to completely oversee football operations, then I could stomach another Kubiak year. I know Parcells has the nads to cut bait on Kubiak if/when he fails again. This organization needs a Parcells in the worst way.
Happy freakin' New Year....
Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
If you can accept losing, you can't win.
Don't for a second think I'm a fan of drafting all these TEs but let's look at it:
2009
4th round (Sage pick): Anthony Hill - Needed/wanted a blocking TE, waste of pick to date.
5th round: James Casey - Has really done great on STs. Don't underestimate/downplay this value. Has played decently when given the opportunity. Dreessen has stepped up in OD's absence
2010
4th round: Garrett Graham - Looks like an OD clone (OD had a severe injury)
7th round: Dorin Dickerson - Drafted to play WR not TE. I'm excited about this pick.
I don't have an issue at all with using a 5th round pick on any player that looks like a Special Teams Ace. Taking a 7th round flyer on a WR/TE guy with a lot of upside was not a bad idea. You're "pro bowl" TE had a severe injruy and you draft a clone of him in the 4th round, fine with it. The only pick I don't like is the 4th rounder Hill selection in 2009.
So we go from what we the fans thought was 6 TEs (Daniels, Dreessen, Hill, Casey, Graham, Dickerson) to OD being injured, Hill being a bust, Casey being STs, Graham being backup/groom and Dickerson being a WR.
Now I'm hearing that these Wade Phillips rumors are are a product of Wade's people trying to lobby for him.
Of course, considering Bum went out to support Kubiak, it could have been because he was lobbying for his son as well.
Ok now who wants to see us loose? Theres been alot of talk here about "true fans". Some say they will never wish for the team to loose, that that is not what a "true fan does". Well now your looking at a situation where the last chance to get this owner to come to his senses and end this nightmare is to loose this game and most likely loose big. Just wondering if any of you "true fans" have a change of heart now?
McNair needs to analyze this situation a little closer. This goes alot deeper than just "well the offense is good, if the defense was better we would be good". I cant count the number of times i have heard this lately. NOTHING is that simple!
Hiring a new defensive coach isnt going to make Kubiak a better decision maker. Its not going to make him a better game manager, clock manager, communicator or motivator. Its certainly not going to make him better at personnel decisions. I could go on and on. There are so many things wrong with this regime but our great owner can only see the simple.
We are in for a long hard ride fellow Texan fans unless we all come together and make some kind of stand.
Where are u hearing this from?
Not to go on and on about the Texans, but this game is probably going to save Gary Kubiaks job, even though I think hes probably safer than most think anyways. All year he has made ponderous play calling decisions, like the constant shelving of Arian Foster in the second halves of games when hes been great early. Like failing to prepare the team for battle so badly that they have the worst 1st quarter scoring differential of any team in any quarter this year. Like standing in quiet dumbfounded angst every single time Matt Schaub holds the ball too long before either fumbling when sacked or throwing an INT to a safety he never looked off nor saw. Like failing to assert more control over the defense when my 5-year old son understands the principle that if your DBs cant cover, you have to try and pressure the QB more. These Texans represent one of the most poorly coached organizations in the league in all facets of coaching: game prep, player development, in-game adjustments, handling pressure. By bringing Gary Kubiak back, even with an entirely new defensive staff (the Wade Philips rumors are fabrications, FYI), owner Bob McNair is dooming this team to another season of underwhelming mediocrity, of close but no cigar, of striking zero fear in opponents. Thats a huge mistake and it saddens me as a new Houstonian that every single person in this giant city can see that except the good-hearted, genuinely caring owner.
From an NFL scout/writer. I spoke to him personally, but here's what he wrote for a website:
http://football.realgm.com/src_hangtime/43/20101230/football_meteorology_for_week_17/
Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
If you can accept losing, you can't win.
From an NFL scout/writer. I spoke to him personally, but here's what he wrote for a website:
http://football.realgm.com/src_hangtime/43/20101230/football_meteorology_for_week_17/
If the Cowboys get Cowher or Gruden, that would be perfect.
What will upset me even more is the Monday presser, with McNair spinning that the Texans are "on the right track". I would rather him just keep these clowns, and say nothing. Because there's no excuse for what he's doing.Again, though, winning starts at the top, and McNair believes the Texans are on the right track. I'm hope he's able to explain why he continues to have confidence in these two guys.
Count the owner, Bob McNair, as the leader of the "Aw Shucks" legion.The biggest issue I see is one that was pointed out to me by a reader (sorry, I cant find our exchange to give you proper credit): It will leave the team headed by two guys with Aw, shucks personalities.
That trait -- which would be shared by Kubiak and a new, powerful defensive coordinator -- wouldn't solve one of the teams primary issues: its lack of a strong identity and anything resembling a killer instinct.
Those are traits that can trickle down from the top men when a team takes on the personality of a strong, forceful head coach.
Hiring a new defensive coach isnt going to make Kubiak a better decision maker. Its not going to make him a better game manager, clock manager, communicator or motivator. Its certainly not going to make him better at personnel decisions. I could go on and on. There are so many things wrong with this regime but our great owner can only see the simple.
I don't like playing the what if game, but with this team, if you got the defense to give up 20 points a game, Texans would be sitting at 11 wins right now. (based on hindsight of course)
maybe that is what Bob is looking at ?
I don't know
I don't like playing the what if game either but picture you're scenario above. We'd (by our guesstimation) be sitting at 10/11 wins with a division championship going into the playoffs DESPITE having the #1 RB, #4 QB, #4 WR... the #4 overall Offense in the league run by Kubiak "who has repeatedly made all these terrible offensive decisions"? A lot of the bad calls made on offense would never occur if we didn't have the worst defense in the history of the nfl.I was thinking about this earlier today. On the surface, no it won't make him a great decision maker, but if you had a top notch defensive coordinator and he got the defense squared away, the perception would be a little different and that defensive coordinater could hide imperfections with the offense
I don't like playing the what if game, but with this team, if you got the defense to give up 20 points a game, Texans would be sitting at 11 wins right now. (based on hindsight of course)
maybe that is what Bob is looking at ?
I don't know
If the Cowboys get Cowher or Gruden, that would be perfect.
I don't like playing the what if game either but picture you're scenario above. We'd (by our guesstimation) be sitting at 10/11 wins with a division championship going into the playoffs DESPITE having the #1 RB, #4 QB, #4 WR... the #4 overall Offense in the league run by Kubiak "who has repeatedly made all these terrible offensive decisions"? A lot of the bad calls made on offense would never occur if we didn't have the worst defense in the history of the nfl.
I can get behind Kubiak. So long as he changes some things, like clock management.
But...whoever thought that having Glover Quinn as the most experienced CB on the squad was a good idea for a playoff team should be fired.
Any GM worth his weight in salt, never would have let that happen, regardless if he didn't want to pay D Rob.
Let 'em jump ship if that's what they want. I really don't define my fanship of the Texans by what others think. If they are drinking kool-aid, fine, if they hate the world and the Texans as well, fine. I'm going to be here cheering for the Texans as long as I breathe.
Doesn't mean I won't be mixing in some bitching about things while I'm cheering them on though.
For the record, I don't like keeping Kubiak and bringing in Wade Phillips as DC. I know Phillips will improve the defense, but that's not the point. I don't want Kubiak back here next year. But, if we get another year of him, if won't change the fact I'll still be rooting for the Texans to win, just like I'll be doing this coming Sunday. I want them to win, and I don't give a rat's ass if it messes up our draft placement.
The only hope we have it seems for Uncle Bob to bite the big one and hope that his son is a much smarter and capable owner. Obviously, I don't wish anyone's death because that is wrong but that honestly is basically the only hope we have for change in the future as McNair has proven definitively that he just doesn't get it and is a complete moron as a NFL owner.
The Colts were a as big a joke as the Texans until the Irsay son took over after his father's death. Just stating the cold, hard truth.
My New Years wish!! That half the members of this board would cease to exist, as posters on TT!!! If you are so demented that you wish DEATH on an owner of a football team just because he wants to do something different with HIS expensive toy than YOU think he should, is one of the most immature and pathetic things I have EVER heard in my long life as a football fan!!
I have NEVER been a huge Kubiak fan, nor am I excited about WP coming on board, if the rumor is true, BUT, I will deal with it by TRYING to have a positive attitude! It's HARD, yes, very HARD to have that considering all the negative vibes and HATE comments that come from so called FANS!! I've been a member of this board since the beginning, and I thank GOD above for a dedicated fan like Kevin for keeping this thing up and running. If it was me, I'd shut it down just to shut some of you up!!!
It's a friggin GAME people!! If you get that upset by losing then DON'T play!! PLEASE just go away, and don't come back when/if we ever do start winning!!! JMO!!
My New Years wish!! That half the members of this board would cease to exist, as posters on TT!!! If you are so demented that you wish DEATH on an owner of a football team just because he wants to do something different with HIS expensive toy than YOU think he should, is one of the most immature and pathetic things I have EVER heard in my long life as a football fan!!
I have NEVER been a huge Kubiak fan, nor am I excited about WP coming on board, if the rumor is true, BUT, I will deal with it by TRYING to have a positive attitude! It's HARD, yes, very HARD to have that considering all the negative vibes and HATE comments that come from so called FANS!! I've been a member of this board since the beginning, and I thank GOD above for a dedicated fan like Kevin for keeping this thing up and running. If it was me, I'd shut it down just to shut some of you up!!!
It's a friggin GAME people!! If you get that upset by losing then DON'T play!! PLEASE just go away, and don't come back when/if we ever do start winning!!! JMO!!
Some guys threatened to kill the guy who created the FireKubiak website.....
Talk about sunshine pumpers
so give the guy a break...the one who posted that he hopes a boulder falls on mcnair.
OMG! That is a real website.
I'm sorry but Texans fans are weenies. "Oh *sniff* *sniff* they are my team and I will support them no matter what idiotic decisions our dumb ass owner makes!!" "Gary is doing the best he can and is such a nice guy so LEAVE GARY ALONE!!!"
This is why this town will always be losers because we as fans have loser mentalities and put up with this kind of bull ****. Instead of protesting, putting paper bags on our heads, turning our backs on the game, not showing up and hitting Bob where it hurts, we continue to be a bunch of freaking masochists and let ourselves take it up the tailpipe all so Dollar Bob can save a few bucks. Other cities (Boston, Philadelphia, New York, and hell even Detroit) wouldn't put up with this crap.
Sorry Gma but you won't get your wish of me not posting on Texans Talk anymore. I will still be around, but the lack of response from many of the fans is really disheartening to me. You can all put up the soap on the message board but when it comes to actually making a decision with your money and with your actions, you simply sit idly by and say "Ah well this is McNair's team so I will just support Kubiak." When you could be taking a stand, participating in a protest, putting a bag over your head, not showing up for the final game, etc., you choose to just continue to let Bob stick it to you all the while he rolls around like Scrooge McDuck in your hard earned money.
*End rant*