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Your opening day 53 man roster prediction.
- Thread starter Corrosion
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The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
This is a tough call at this point. We've got some pretty epic battles going on: at RB, at WR, Trindon, LB. Even Beck made a pretty good argument for making the squad in that first game.
I dont disagree , just think its worth throwing it out there , we can always change our minds as time goes on.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck -- Keenum on PS
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett -- Try to get Grimes on PS
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, Brock
LT: DB, Butler
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, Ball
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
---
The guys I think are borderline are Ball, Fangupo, Brock, and Norris.
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett -- Try to get Grimes on PS
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, Brock
LT: DB, Butler
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, Ball
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
---
The guys I think are borderline are Ball, Fangupo, Brock, and Norris.
QB: Schaub, Yates
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes
FB: Casey, Smith
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey, Trindon
TE: OD, GG
LT: DB
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus, Nading
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
Notable Practice Squad players: Megget, Keenum, Louiseau, Keo, Pleasant, Mondek, Mario Louis, Logan Brock
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett, Grimes
FB: Casey, Smith
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey, Trindon
TE: OD, GG
LT: DB
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus, Nading
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
Notable Practice Squad players: Megget, Keenum, Louiseau, Keo, Pleasant, Mondek, Mario Louis, Logan Brock
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Ok, well getting to 55 is easy, it's those last two that make it tough. I think Holliday can make this team if he plays error free through the preseason. He obviously has the acceleration and straight-line speed needed to be a great kick returner, but he can't make mistakes like he did last preseason. I'm giving him the WR #6 spot in my 53 man roster instead of Bryant Johnson. He's certainly worth that much if we carry 6 WRs.
I have it split evenly 25 offense, 25 defense, 3 STs players.
If anyone wants a Google spreadsheet with all the players, here's a link to mine: LINK.
I leave the 90 man roster on the first sheet and copy the players to the second, then delete the names I don't want. The functions at the bottom of the second page add up the players in each column to help keep track of the numbers. Just make sure you copy everything into the right column/row and it will work fine.
I have it split evenly 25 offense, 25 defense, 3 STs players.
If anyone wants a Google spreadsheet with all the players, here's a link to mine: LINK.
I leave the 90 man roster on the first sheet and copy the players to the second, then delete the names I don't want. The functions at the bottom of the second page add up the players in each column to help keep track of the numbers. Just make sure you copy everything into the right column/row and it will work fine.
Dang....I didn't realize he was on the active roster for that many games....
drs23
Veteran
I cheated and used TPN's roster as a template and added my changes. I'm glad we get to leave this fluid as I'll be changing my mind time and again. 
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, (Casey)
LT: DB, Newton (swing)
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton (swing)
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Ra'Shon Harris
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, T. Williams
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
PR/KR: Holliday
PS: Case Keenum, Davin Megget, Loni Fangupo, Eddie Pleasent, D.J. Bryant, Shawn Loiseau, Derrell Smith, Nick Mondek
Ghost IR
: Grimes
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, (Casey)
LT: DB, Newton (swing)
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton (swing)
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Ra'Shon Harris
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, T. Williams
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: Bullock
PR/KR: Holliday
PS: Case Keenum, Davin Megget, Loni Fangupo, Eddie Pleasent, D.J. Bryant, Shawn Loiseau, Derrell Smith, Nick Mondek
Ghost IR
: Grimes
speedfreek
All Pro
Keenum makes the 53-man over Beck.
If Schaub is healthy, Beck can be released. He's not a valuable asset to anyone else. If Schaub is injured during the regular season, Beck will still be on the street for re-hire. You put Keenum on the practice squad, and he will be a Packer or Viking, etc. etc.
Everyone has seen two years of Beck and knows what his limits are when the excrement hits the impeller (and you're in a regular season game). Keenum, at this point, has a much higher "potential" ceiling..
TJ
If Schaub is healthy, Beck can be released. He's not a valuable asset to anyone else. If Schaub is injured during the regular season, Beck will still be on the street for re-hire. You put Keenum on the practice squad, and he will be a Packer or Viking, etc. etc.
Everyone has seen two years of Beck and knows what his limits are when the excrement hits the impeller (and you're in a regular season game). Keenum, at this point, has a much higher "potential" ceiling..
TJ
drs23
Veteran
I tend to agree. I was trying to put my HC Kubiak hat on. I can see Case being the third as well but Kubiak stated he was pleased with the way Beck played. A couple of weeks from now we'll know. 2 1/2 weeks, tops.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Right now, I've got Beck ahead of Keenum.
Prior to TC, I said that Beck only gets on the 53 if Keenum either stinks it up OR Matt goes down.
At this point, though, I think Beck's got a better control of the offense than Keenum. Keenum's going to have to kill it to make the 53. I expect him to go to the PS.
Prior to TC, I said that Beck only gets on the 53 if Keenum either stinks it up OR Matt goes down.
At this point, though, I think Beck's got a better control of the offense than Keenum. Keenum's going to have to kill it to make the 53. I expect him to go to the PS.
utahmark
markbeth
I'm not sure teams see him as having a high ceiling. He was'nt drafted. If some team has an injury or two at qb you don't go and get the undrafted rookie, you go after the mediocre backup with some experience.
SteveSlaton20
Rookie
QB: Schaub, Yates, Beck
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GGraham
LT: DB, Butler
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McManis, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
K/PR: Holliday
P: Jones
K: Bullock
RB: Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB: Casey, Norris
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GGraham
LT: DB, Butler
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Newton
DE: Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT: Cody, Earl, Fangupo
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, McManis, Carmichael
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
LS: Weeks
K/PR: Holliday
P: Jones
K: Bullock
GP
Go Texans!
Bolded players have descriptions of why I chose them over other players.
QB: Schaub, Yates, KEENUM
RB: Foster, Tate, GRIMES
FB: Casey, NORRIS
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, (Casey)
LT: DB, Newton (swing)
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton (swing)
WHY KEENUM:
In the end, Kubiak will go with Keenum on the active 53. After last year's situation of being short on QBs...with how TJ rose the occasion as a rookie wet-behind-the-ear, Kubiak will want Keenum on the active 53 to become as ready as Keenum can be IF he is needed.
WHY GRIMES:
The guy is electric. Forsett might have the early lead, but as preseason progress, I think Grimes impresses so much that he cannot be denied a roster spot. With veterans like Tate and Foster ahead of him, Grimes is a rookie who can sit and watch and might get reps in certain situations. I like the guy.
WHY NORRIS:
I cannot see Kubiak relying on a FB like Smith--new to the position--when so much is needed this season from the FB position. Norris is not a world beater at his age, but he is going to be battle-tested and that's what Kubiak needs: A guy who has seen it all, and is reliable every time out of the gate.
DE: Smith, Watt, JAMISON or CRICK
NT: Cody, Earl, Ra'Shon Harris
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, LOISEAU or ALEXANDER
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, McManis
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
DE CHOICE:
If Crick struggles with injuries, he'll get cut. Period. Preseason is about reps, and Crick is that ghost I.R. just waiting to happen...then he comes back next year and gets another crack at it with us. Jamison has the lead, IMO.
ILB CHOICE:
Loiseau has a shot if he performs in preseason and shows ST skills, too. I think Alexander has the lead here, but Loiseau has that "it" factor that might be too hard to resist by Wade Phillips
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: GRAHAM
PR/KR: HOLLIDAY
WHY GRAHAM:
Like I stated with the FB choice, I just do not think Gary Kubiak can let the 2012 season's kicker job rest upon a rookie. If that rookie spirals out of control early on, he's done. We're done. It can be so disastrous for a well-built team to watch a field goal kicker shank kicks and possibly lose games. If somebody claims him, fine. But Graham should get the nod IF he performs solidly in camp. Go with the veteran on something this big.
WHY HOLLIDAY:
I don't really like it, but it will end up happening. Kubiak will not want a quality Safety like D. Manning risking himself on return duties in 2012.
QB: Schaub, Yates, KEENUM
RB: Foster, Tate, GRIMES
FB: Casey, NORRIS
WR: AJ, KW, KMart, Jean, Posey
TE: OD, GG, (Casey)
LT: DB, Newton (swing)
LG: Smith, Smith
C: Myers, Jones
RG: Caldwell, Brooks
RT: Butler, Newton (swing)
WHY KEENUM:
In the end, Kubiak will go with Keenum on the active 53. After last year's situation of being short on QBs...with how TJ rose the occasion as a rookie wet-behind-the-ear, Kubiak will want Keenum on the active 53 to become as ready as Keenum can be IF he is needed.
WHY GRIMES:
The guy is electric. Forsett might have the early lead, but as preseason progress, I think Grimes impresses so much that he cannot be denied a roster spot. With veterans like Tate and Foster ahead of him, Grimes is a rookie who can sit and watch and might get reps in certain situations. I like the guy.
WHY NORRIS:
I cannot see Kubiak relying on a FB like Smith--new to the position--when so much is needed this season from the FB position. Norris is not a world beater at his age, but he is going to be battle-tested and that's what Kubiak needs: A guy who has seen it all, and is reliable every time out of the gate.
DE: Smith, Watt, JAMISON or CRICK
NT: Cody, Earl, Ra'Shon Harris
OLB: Barwin, Reed, Braman, Mercilus
ILB: Cush, James, Dobbins, LOISEAU or ALEXANDER
CB: JJo, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael, McManis
S: Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan
DE CHOICE:
If Crick struggles with injuries, he'll get cut. Period. Preseason is about reps, and Crick is that ghost I.R. just waiting to happen...then he comes back next year and gets another crack at it with us. Jamison has the lead, IMO.
ILB CHOICE:
Loiseau has a shot if he performs in preseason and shows ST skills, too. I think Alexander has the lead here, but Loiseau has that "it" factor that might be too hard to resist by Wade Phillips
LS: Weeks
P: Jones
K: GRAHAM
PR/KR: HOLLIDAY
WHY GRAHAM:
Like I stated with the FB choice, I just do not think Gary Kubiak can let the 2012 season's kicker job rest upon a rookie. If that rookie spirals out of control early on, he's done. We're done. It can be so disastrous for a well-built team to watch a field goal kicker shank kicks and possibly lose games. If somebody claims him, fine. But Graham should get the nod IF he performs solidly in camp. Go with the veteran on something this big.
WHY HOLLIDAY:
I don't really like it, but it will end up happening. Kubiak will not want a quality Safety like D. Manning risking himself on return duties in 2012.
speedfreek
All Pro
Keenum had other offers as an UDFA and chose the Texans.
I didn't see anyone other than us clamouring for Beck.
You only put Keenum on the practice squad if you think he can't play, because if you do -- he's gone..
TJ
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Case Keenum will not be on a 53 man roster in week 1.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
There is another financial aspect here. Beck has enough years in the league such that if he is on the roster on day 1 then his full salary becomes guaranteed. Hire him on day 2 and nothing is guaranteed.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I wonder if we could save a roster spot by teaching Ben Jones-C to do the long snapping. He's going to be on the roster as backup Center, why not have him take care of the long snapping duties and save a valuable roster spot. In the past a long snapper was needed because a team didn't want to risk injury to a starting Center playing on special teams. But since the rule changes a few years ago about not letting a defense line up over the top of the Center on special teams plays and just crush the guy, you don't see injuries to Centers on special teams that much anymore. It would also allow Ben Jones to add a skill and get a little playing time.
Doubtful.
The texans love the long snappers consistency. He gets the ball back fast and accurately.
Plus if I'm not mistaken they just quietly re upped him.
The LS is here to stay.
I need to see more from Keenum to make that connection. That would seem logical as beck is a vet and has played in a similar situation, but Keenum only threw 3 passes and connected on 2 of them for about 30 yards.
To me, beck looks like a wild horse out there.
I don't agree with that. I think udfa and late round qb's are among the least likely to get poached off of practice squads.
Not too many teams are going to take an undrafted qb they have to put on their 53 man roster that has not spent any time in their system and doesn't know anything about their playbook.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
All of our secrets?
The other day Yates said he spent his whole first year just trying to learn the playbook and he's still learning.
You think the titans are going to cut one of their guys to add an udfa qb that's only been here a few months to gain an upperhand in what makes us tick?
Case probably barely understands everything we do himself. Bruce Matthews probably knows more than he does about what we do.
Maybe they are dumb enough to do that. I dunno.
I think they'd be more likely to grab one of the rb's we cut.
I agree - Weeks isnt going anywhere , they will carry three specialists not counting PR/KR with kicker , punter and long snapper. Trycycle is a wildcard at this point.
I dont think Beck makes the roster ... and Keenum will be on the PS unless he just blows it up. Neither bothers me much because Im comfortable with Schaub and Yates going forward , if they both go down ..... Keenum can just be brought back off the PS as I dont see a team signing him for the season - He did go undrafted and was seen as a system QB. I think he could be an NFL QB but the perception is what it is - system QB.
Also , he can do from the PS the same job he does while on the roster running the scout team and whatnot.
One of my biggest questions going forward is what they do with Hartmann once he is elegible .... Kubiak has raved about how well Donnie Jones has handled the holders job and he has been solid punting. That suspension could have cost Hartmann his roster spot.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Donnie Jones was alright against the Panthers. He had two punts for 45 yards from LOS to touchdown, and one that went out of bounds for 37 yards. 2/3 is OK, but the ~45 yard distance is what Coach Joe has always wanted in his punters. Turk was a solid ~42 yard guy when he didn't shank it off the side of his foot. Joe prefers to kick it about that far so the coverage team can get down there and tackle the return man before he can go anywhere, which is a conservative strategy. Nothing wrong with that, I expect Jones to be fine when the regular season comes.
GP
Go Texans!
His first pass was an incompletion and looked like he was just anxious.
The two completions were on the money and looked like a QB who was decisive and deadly accurate.
The way he sold the play action bootleg was, well...it was THE best sales job of play action I've ever seen. His balance, mobility, head movement as he swung around, it was perfect...and the blitzing defender fell for it hardcore.
GP
Go Texans!
Beck is QB3 out of respect for him being a veteran out there. No way Kubiak would have Case over Beck.
But when cuts are made, I just think Kubiak knows that Case is a TJ Yates kind if QB.
I happen to think, and I know it's early, but I think Case is legit. I think he has the tools to be the guy here.
But when cuts are made, I just think Kubiak knows that Case is a TJ Yates kind if QB.
I happen to think, and I know it's early, but I think Case is legit. I think he has the tools to be the guy here.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Whenever anyone starts talking about a rookie QB giving the best play action fake EVAR, you can be pretty sure that they're over-reacting and possibly seeing the kid through rose-colored glasses. When you really, really want some guy to be great, it's easy to let your heart work its way into your eyes. And I think some of us are doing that with both TJ and Case.
They've both got the potential to be great QBs but they've both got a long way to go.
For me at this moment in time, Beck knows this offense better than Case does. He probably knows some of it better than TJ does because he's been in a variation of it for a few years now and has had more time in it. That doesn't mean he's a better QB than TJ or Case, just that he knows the offense. And with Kubiak, that means a helluva lot.
So if the season started right now, I think Kubiak would go with 3 QBs on the roster. He'd choose the 3 guys he thinks knows the offense best. He'd stash Case on the PS so he could get more time to work on his fundamentals and more time to learn the offense.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
I thought Case played rather poorly, but then again I didn't go to U of H. He dropped back, what 7 times? Threw 3 times, ran it twice and got sacked twice. Both of his completions were less than 10 yards from the LOS. Nothing really compelling IMO. P-squad material, let him develop this year and give him a shot at the #3 spot next year.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
yep, will wind up on p/s.
I dint think any of that is a given.
Kubiak has gone with two qb's before. Matter of fact he went with two qb's when Matt got hurt if I'm not mistaken.
Also, kubiak didn't go with orvlosky over Yates last year and try to stash Yates on the practice squad. Basically he didn't go with the three guys that knew the system the best. He went with what he thought was the three best guys.
Last year leinart was Yates this year. The back up with some potential. Maybe could be really good in this system.
Orvlosky was beck. Knows the system. Good arm, but erratic. Vet player with a bumpy playing history.
And case is essentially Yates. Young guy with potential still learning, but probably has more upside than the guy currently sitting in third.
I wouldn't be shocked at all if kubiak went with Yates over beck. Or vice versa.
GP
Go Texans!
Eh...it's just a gut instinct. Nobody thought TJ Yates would be leading a scoring drive to win the AFC South, on the road at Cincy, either. And a playoff victory at home. And almost a trip to the Conference Title Game. TJ was on nobody's radar, not even here on this mb. And anybody who says so is lying. LOL.
TJ and Case are both very young guys. Case Keenum took snaps in his very first NFL game vs. the Panther and, dare I say, he looked better than a guy like Kevin Kolb has who might not even be the starter in Arizona in what is like his third year or so in the NFL.
Out of all four QBs we have, I would want to cut Beck the most. Might as well go with youth; with someone who is a clean slate instead of a journeyman QB.
Kubiak said that the protection was bad and he was running for his life out there.
Killer Bee
Waterboy
Offense (25)
QB Matt Schaub, TJ Yates, John Beck
RB Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Justin Forsett
FB James Casey, Moran Norris
TE Owen Daniels, Garrett Graham
T Duane Brown, Rashad Butler, Derek Newton
G Wade Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Brandon Brooks, Shelley Smith
C Chris Myers, Ben Jones
WR Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Keshawn Martin, Lestar Jean, DeVier Posey, Trindon Holliday
Defense (25)
DE Antonio Smith, JJ Watt, Tim Jamison, Jared Crick
NT Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell, RaShon Harris
OLB Conner Barwin, Brooks Reed, Whitney Mercilus, Bryan Braman
ILB Brian Cushing, Bradie James, Tim Dobbins, Mister Alexander
CB Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Brice McCain, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael
S Danieal Manning, Glover Quin, Quintin Demps, Troy Nolan, Shiloh Keo
Special Teams (3)
LS Jon Weeks
K Randy Bullock
P Dahnte Jones
I think the undernoted strength of this team is how athletic theyll be on special teams.
PUP List Brett Hartmann, Darryl Sharpton (takes Keos spot upon return)
IR Stash TBD
Practice Squad
Case Keenum
Jonathan Grimes
Logan Brock
Nick Mondek
Jeff Maehl
Shawn Loiseau
Torri Williams
Hebron Fangupo
QB Matt Schaub, TJ Yates, John Beck
RB Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Justin Forsett
FB James Casey, Moran Norris
TE Owen Daniels, Garrett Graham
T Duane Brown, Rashad Butler, Derek Newton
G Wade Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Brandon Brooks, Shelley Smith
C Chris Myers, Ben Jones
WR Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Keshawn Martin, Lestar Jean, DeVier Posey, Trindon Holliday
Defense (25)
DE Antonio Smith, JJ Watt, Tim Jamison, Jared Crick
NT Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell, RaShon Harris
OLB Conner Barwin, Brooks Reed, Whitney Mercilus, Bryan Braman
ILB Brian Cushing, Bradie James, Tim Dobbins, Mister Alexander
CB Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Brice McCain, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael
S Danieal Manning, Glover Quin, Quintin Demps, Troy Nolan, Shiloh Keo
Special Teams (3)
LS Jon Weeks
K Randy Bullock
P Dahnte Jones
I think the undernoted strength of this team is how athletic theyll be on special teams.
PUP List Brett Hartmann, Darryl Sharpton (takes Keos spot upon return)
IR Stash TBD
Practice Squad
Case Keenum
Jonathan Grimes
Logan Brock
Nick Mondek
Jeff Maehl
Shawn Loiseau
Torri Williams
Hebron Fangupo
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I can dig this. I'd like to see more of Roc Carmichael and Ra'Shon Harris before giving them spots. Presently, I'd lean towards McMannis over Roc. I think I'd probably drop Keo all together.
I think Keenum can be stashed on the practice squad. Mainly for the same reasons he likely went undrafted: (a) He's not prototypical size for the position, (b) he is likely seen as a QB that put up big numbers because of the system and not his overwhelming talent, and (c) that "system" is a spread offense and NOT the classic NFL-type system. That means he'll need time to adjust.
...at least I hope that's what other teams are thinking
Good predictions,
I could see Fangupo beating out Harris
Loiseau > Dobbins or Alexander
Torri Williams > Keo
Gardner on PS
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Don't care except for that the old #12 isn't on it!
I think he will be ahead of Beck by the end of camp ... whether that translates to making the final 53 or landing on the PS remains to be seen.
Offense - 24
QB Schaub, Yates
RB Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB Norris
TE Daniels, Casey, Graham, Brock
T Brown, Butler, Newton
G W.Smith, Caldwell, Brooks, S.Smith
C Myers, Jones
WR Johnson, Walter, Martin, Posey , Jean
Defense - 25
DE Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT Cody, Mitchell, Fangupo
OLB Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman
ILB Cushing, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Pleasant
Special Teams - 4
LS Weeks
K Bullock
P Jones
PR/KR - Holliday
PUP List Hartmann, Sharpton
IR Stash
Practice Squad
Keenum
Grimes
Mondek
Loiseau
Williams
Harris
Jackson (wr)
QB Schaub, Yates
RB Foster, Tate, Forsett
FB Norris
TE Daniels, Casey, Graham, Brock
T Brown, Butler, Newton
G W.Smith, Caldwell, Brooks, S.Smith
C Myers, Jones
WR Johnson, Walter, Martin, Posey , Jean
Defense - 25
DE Smith, Watt, Jamison, Crick
NT Cody, Mitchell, Fangupo
OLB Barwin, Reed, Mercilus, Braman
ILB Cushing, James, Dobbins, Alexander
CB Joseph, Jackson, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S Manning, Quin, Demps, Nolan, Pleasant
Special Teams - 4
LS Weeks
K Bullock
P Jones
PR/KR - Holliday
PUP List Hartmann, Sharpton
IR Stash
Practice Squad
Keenum
Grimes
Mondek
Loiseau
Williams
Harris
Jackson (wr)
Blake
MMQB
Nothing really mind blowing here. Texans only keep 2 QB's. Holliday is cut. Fangupo proves he belongs.
QB Matt Schaub/T.J. Yates
RB Arian Foster/Ben Tate/Justin Forsett
FB James Casey/Moran Norris
WR1 Andre Johnson/Keshawn Martin/Lestar Jean
WR2 Kevin Walter/Bryant Johnson/DeVier Posey
TE Owen Daniels/Garrett Graham
LT Duane Brown
LG Wade Smith/Kasey Studdard
OC Chris Myers/Ben Jones
RG Antoine Caldwell/Brandon Brooks
RT Rashad Butler/Derek newton
DE J.J. Watt/Tim Jamison
DT Shaun Cody/Earl Mitchell/Hebron Fangupo
DE Antonio Smith/Jared Crick
MOLB Brooks Reed/Bryan Braman
ILB Brian Cushing/Mister Alexander
ILB Bradie James/Tim Dobbins
WOLB Connor Barwin/Whitney Mercilus
LCB Kareem Jackson/Alan Ball/Sherrick McManis
RCB Johnathan Joseph /Brice McCain/Brandon Harris
FS Deanieal Manning/Quintin Demps
SS Glover Quinn/Troy Nolan/Shiloh Keo
LS Jonathan Weeks
PK Randy Bullock
P Donnie Jones
Practice Squad:
1.) S Eddie Pleasant
2.) WR Jeff Maehl
3.) RB Jonathan Grimes
4.) CB Roc Carmichael
5.) LB Shawn Louiseau
6.) DB Torri Williams
7.) OT Nick Mondek
8.) OG Shelley Smith
Reserve/PUP - Brett Hartmann/Darryl Sharpton
QB Matt Schaub/T.J. Yates
RB Arian Foster/Ben Tate/Justin Forsett
FB James Casey/Moran Norris
WR1 Andre Johnson/Keshawn Martin/Lestar Jean
WR2 Kevin Walter/Bryant Johnson/DeVier Posey
TE Owen Daniels/Garrett Graham
LT Duane Brown
LG Wade Smith/Kasey Studdard
OC Chris Myers/Ben Jones
RG Antoine Caldwell/Brandon Brooks
RT Rashad Butler/Derek newton
DE J.J. Watt/Tim Jamison
DT Shaun Cody/Earl Mitchell/Hebron Fangupo
DE Antonio Smith/Jared Crick
MOLB Brooks Reed/Bryan Braman
ILB Brian Cushing/Mister Alexander
ILB Bradie James/Tim Dobbins
WOLB Connor Barwin/Whitney Mercilus
LCB Kareem Jackson/Alan Ball/Sherrick McManis
RCB Johnathan Joseph /Brice McCain/Brandon Harris
FS Deanieal Manning/Quintin Demps
SS Glover Quinn/Troy Nolan/Shiloh Keo
LS Jonathan Weeks
PK Randy Bullock
P Donnie Jones
Practice Squad:
1.) S Eddie Pleasant
2.) WR Jeff Maehl
3.) RB Jonathan Grimes
4.) CB Roc Carmichael
5.) LB Shawn Louiseau
6.) DB Torri Williams
7.) OT Nick Mondek
8.) OG Shelley Smith
Reserve/PUP - Brett Hartmann/Darryl Sharpton
I don't understand putting Ball on the roster. I get that he's a Wade guy, but he was awful in that last game...
Maybe he turns it around, but I'm more willing to give a spot to an unknown like Carmichael than to a guy I know will be roasted like Ball...
I can understand CB's being beat..That's going to happen...
But Ball looked ridiculous, crazy, silly, sloppy all rolled into one...Bad position, not looking for the ball...
He looked like someone they just grabbed from outside of the stadium and said cover these guys...
Maybe he turns it around, but I'm more willing to give a spot to an unknown like Carmichael than to a guy I know will be roasted like Ball...
I can understand CB's being beat..That's going to happen...
But Ball looked ridiculous, crazy, silly, sloppy all rolled into one...Bad position, not looking for the ball...
He looked like someone they just grabbed from outside of the stadium and said cover these guys...
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
So Keenum doesn't even make the PS? Please explain.
That would be laughable .... TJ Yates isnt going to be running the scout team.
One or both happens - Beck makes the final 53 and Keenum makes the PS (or final 53). They will have more than just Yates / Schaub in house at QB.
speedfreek
All Pro
Zero chance that we hold only 2 QB's after last year. ZERO..
Isn't there some new rule about keeping an extra player if that player is a QB?
Why wouldn't we take advange of that?
TJ
Isn't there some new rule about keeping an extra player if that player is a QB?
Why wouldn't we take advange of that?
TJ