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Right, build in the trenches. Musgrave doesn't help there. I'm not taking a TE before the 3rd round, if at all. I think we have much bigger needs than TE, and I'm sure we can get a FA TE if needed. I'd also be interested to know what they think of the TE's we have on the practice squad.
TEs in the lower rounds typically take time to adjust - we need as many impact players as we can get.
Exactly, and I don't think we really need a TE as bad as we need other things.
Depends on what system we end up running. Having a really good TE Is important in The Shanghan/kubiac system
You act like D-Hop and AJ type of guys grow on trees. You're talking HOF caliber players. Metchie is a slot at best vs a guy like Boyd who is big and plays the slot. Hyatt is a homerun hitter which creates a tyreke hill type of coverage. I like Johnston, but I do want to see how fast he runs.
Those guys normally have wiggle too, not just seam route stiffs
A great blocking TE certainly does help in the trenches.
The Eagles have high end trench guys, tell me about their te. Tell me about the 1 from KC also. Thing is, te's who can only block or run a seam route is like a NT who is just a run stopper. The middle of the field is wide open in the nfl and if you don't have a guy who can consistently exploit that, you're limiting your offense. Me personally, I think Akins can jump a bunch of notches in a west coast offense with his ability to run. I never understood why they didn't use him more.
I think Musgrave can be that guy.
Neither do I.
The HC just left a team that had TE as a major part of the offense. And the Texans have one of, if not the, weakest TE groups in the league.
This is a highlight reel of Musgrave from last season. Not a random game, where maybe he doesn't play his best. These are his highlights.
That’s because the Texans didn’t utilize the TE’s position right. So of course we’re going to look at like it was weak. Put Jordan, Howard and Akins on the the 49ers team and they’re thriving easily.
Why? All our TEs suck. What we’ve done in the past is irrelevant now. If you’re going to spend major assets to bring in a young QB why wouldn’t you want him to have a safety blanket TE? This is a deep TE draft.
Again they wasn’t even utilized to their strengths that’s why.
Give me some of that.
My question is for the season we expect in 2023, is TE a high priority this draft?
Bijan better blanket, huge stats and good blocking; blew up PFF records on tackles broken. Great RB with great hands as WR. He knows how to get to end zone. Can remain on field either position.
You're going to have to use 1.12 for Bijan
I wouldn't hate the Bijan pick, even though there are better needs. Love Pierce, but I'm unconvinced he'll be a 'horse' kind of back. I see him as more of a 150-200 rush/season guy - a good combo package back to share the load with another strong back. Runs with too much reckless abandon and not big enough to shoulder a massive load. Pierce and Bijan would be an awesome duo.
I like these 2 players and support such a decision. But after Roquan Smith set the market, that'll cost you $30M+ annually between the two. That's a lot to pay for 2 LBs. Probably more realistic to shoot for 1 or the other, which should be fine if Harris continues to progress.
Not counting on this happening obviously, but Jalen Carter would be so helpful towards anchoring the middle DL and tightening up the absolutely wretched run defense. Even if Carter performs similar to Tavon Walker, he can change things being a load and taking on double teams in the middle. Christian Harris emergence helped the run defense a little, but need that middle DL anchor to really make it respectable. If they can get a guy like Javon Hargreaves, that also would work.
Fair enough. Not against the idea at all, but you will pay almost franchise QB price tag for it. If that's what Ryans wants, all for it. He's got a ton of political capital in which to sculp the roster in Year 1 (a$ much a$ management will allow)
The Texans drafted the Miss St kid and The Vandy kid while Cush was playing. How did they neglect the position? I like some of your suggestion, allow me to retort. Harris has the ability to do what Werner did. He has the speed and athleticism to do it. There are some very talented lbs in this draft to fill out that spot. No need to overspend on that position as much as I like Edmonds. No to Ward, he's 31. If you want vets in the secondary, between Nelson and King, they can do it with them. They need help up front and better coverage in the lb corps. I think the kid from Pitt, BJ Johnson,and the kid from Georgia Tech are going to outperform their draft positions by a long shot.
Walker was terrible this year even with Allen on the other side
100% disagree with terrible. His stats didn't pop out. But the run defense did go to 4.1 yards per rush from 4.3 (22th in yards to 12th, probably due to being in the lead more often), PFF overall grade is a pretty respectable 60.3.
This team, imo needs to continue to get younger. Jimmy Ward is cool in SF, but we know Houston doesn't have the heat up front or the cover lbs who can close lanes down. I think if Greenard can stay healthy, he can be a 12-14 sack guy. I think that Thompson and the Pitt kid are going to wreck havoc. I think people forget that the 49ers didn't get alot of sacks last year.In fact, the Texans had more sacks than the 49ers. They stopped the run and kept people out of the end zone, but they played that cover 2 and had timely pressure.
I watched pretty much all of Jacksonville games and you never noticed him even playing. Jacksonville screwed up on that one, They should've taken Hutchinson and the team would've been even better defensively. He wasn't good at all. I don't care how you slice and you're playing with an above avg offense and you get 3 sacks in 17 games.
Fair enough. It was widely known Walker needed work as a pass rusher, and I guess he still does. Pretty sure he's helpful against the run. Should of went with Hutchinson agree.
I didn't think that highly of Walker from the jump. People tried to make ways of talking about how he couldn't just rush the passer. Well, when he just rushed the passer in nfl, it was just a bull or straight rush. No dip,speed to power, or power to speed. You expect more from the #1 pick rushing the passer. I mean Mario Williams had like 5 sacks and he was injured.
Walker cost the Jags a win vs the Texans with the 3rd down late hit on Mills. Then, he did the same thing in the playoff game to Herbert. Somehow, the Chargers screwed that up. He was a project that should have gone in the middle of the round.
And Mario Williams dominated in college. He had 14.5 sacks and 24 TFL his junior year. Williams had the credentials and the combine numbers to go #1.
There's no way the Texans are doing that. @steelbtexan was silly to even mention it.
Musgrave is being single handedly brought down by DBs smaller than Bryce Young. Geez.
Tend to agree. Pick #2 is too valuable with the talent on offer there - you have the opportunity to draft a game changer there.
Many of those plays he gets brought down right after catching the ball. No chance to break tackles. You're looking for reasons to not like him. What I saw was a guy making plays.
I think that the texans are locked in on Bryce young. Having said that I have offered a similar plan of trading down from 1.2 for him and other 1st round pics. Those pics can be traded down for 2nd rounders if everything falls just right.
