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Who gets the start at QB after the bye?
- Thread starter IlliniJen
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At 2-5 it doesn't matter.
The season is over.
Thanks for another season to remember Rick/Gary.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
He told the best starting defense in the NFL playing at home who his starting QB was going to be so I don't know why he just doesn't come out and settle this issue now.. it's called leadership and I'm starting to question his.
I don't think its over just yet.
If they beat the Dolts , they get the Card's , Raiders and Jaq's the next three weeks - they win those and they are .500 with 6 to go and three more division games.
The Dolts lost Reggie Wayne for the season .... that's a huge loss for them.
They probably have to go 8-1 from here on out .... Its not likely but they still have a shot. I really think this team is much better than its record , especially if Schaub isn't under center.
Winning three of four against the Pats , Bronco's and Dolts twice may be a lot to ask but Im gonna hold out hope for at least one more game.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Vance87
All Pro
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
I think it's very considerate of Kubiak to leave his replacement an even higher draft pick to work with by starting Schaub. A class's act until the very end kubes.
Vance87
All Pro
Well it's on him to put the future head coach in a good position.
houstonhurricane
Veteran
This right here. I was a bit skeptical of Keenum but after having been in that stadium and witnessing Case perform as well as he did in that environment and against that defense, this is a no-brainier. Kubiak knows the Colts game is a must win to salvage the season and even his own job- and with Case starting it will be frenzied...with Schaub it would be a home disaster.
Plus, we really have not had any updates from the team itself on the extent of Schaub's injury - only what he said on 610.
houstonhurricane
Veteran
...saw Schaub's statement on his injury but sure would like to see the team update his status...
If Kubiak bases the decision on performance, probably won't, he will go with Keenum. He was better in every aspect of QB play. The biggest difference is his ability to extend a play and make a throw on the run/outside the pocket. This is especially important when you got our sorry a$$ RT Newton out there. He got beat so damn bad a couple of times all he could do is watch the OLB harrass the QB, horrible.
Kubiak said he was most impressed with Keenums ability to run the offense and call plays despite the noise at Arrowhead Stadium. With Schaub getting closer to returning, Kubiak says he has a tough decision on which quarterback will start against Indianapolis on November 3.
Thats a difficult call, either way, from that standpoint, Kubiak said. Im going to look at it. Matt is back moving around a little bit today. Weve got a bye week here. We have a couple of days to evaluate ourselves, evaluate our football team and see where were at and then I will do what I think is best for the team.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Kubiak-to-evaluate-QB-situation-impressed-with-Keenum/5a62e0e5-9070-4756-83eb-68181608ff6e
An UDFA forcing the HC to make a tough call after his first start; if that doesn't scream potential, I don't know what will.
Thats a difficult call, either way, from that standpoint, Kubiak said. Im going to look at it. Matt is back moving around a little bit today. Weve got a bye week here. We have a couple of days to evaluate ourselves, evaluate our football team and see where were at and then I will do what I think is best for the team.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Kubiak-to-evaluate-QB-situation-impressed-with-Keenum/5a62e0e5-9070-4756-83eb-68181608ff6e
An UDFA forcing the HC to make a tough call after his first start; if that doesn't scream potential, I don't know what will.
SCOTTexans
Rookie
Keenum should start and proved it, but I just got the feeling that Kubiak was trying to throw Keenum to the wolves in hopes that there wouldn't be a descision on who to start after the bye.... 
YeaLikeRightNow
Waterboy
Agreed...but I can only hope Keenum is back in to show the home crowd that he is no fluke!
texanhead08
All Pro
Kubes is starting Schaub and this will be how we finally rid this franchise of his stubborn ways.
Hottoddie
Veteran
Everyone needs to calm down.
Kubiak didn't say anything that's not true. Officially, Schaub is still the starter. Case was given a chance to show what he could do in a very hostile environment & did exceptionally well in his first start.
However, he did make some critical mistakes that need to be corrected if he's going to be successful going forward. This bye week/Schaub's injury couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Gary now has two weeks to work with Case & fix the mistakes for the next game. From what I'm hearing, Gary wants to start Case & may very well have already made up his mind to do just that.
I believe it's blatantly obvious to the players that Case is the future starting QB for this team & he gives them the best chance to win a Superbowl. Even a blind man could've seen how much harder the team played last week. There's a new sense of excitement on the team & the fans are energized again. I'll bet Indy is not looking forward to coming into Reliant for this next game. We will win this Sunday night game! I wonder if we can set a new noise level for the league?
One of the reasons Gary's players love & support him is that he treats them with respect & never intentionally embarrasses them. Right now, I believe he's trying to find a way to let Schaub down easy so as to not cause any unrest or devisiveness on the team.
Believe me when I say, I truely believe Case will be our starting QB for the rest of the season & will make a hard push to get us into the playoffs this year.
Kubiak didn't say anything that's not true. Officially, Schaub is still the starter. Case was given a chance to show what he could do in a very hostile environment & did exceptionally well in his first start.
However, he did make some critical mistakes that need to be corrected if he's going to be successful going forward. This bye week/Schaub's injury couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Gary now has two weeks to work with Case & fix the mistakes for the next game. From what I'm hearing, Gary wants to start Case & may very well have already made up his mind to do just that.
I believe it's blatantly obvious to the players that Case is the future starting QB for this team & he gives them the best chance to win a Superbowl. Even a blind man could've seen how much harder the team played last week. There's a new sense of excitement on the team & the fans are energized again. I'll bet Indy is not looking forward to coming into Reliant for this next game. We will win this Sunday night game! I wonder if we can set a new noise level for the league?
One of the reasons Gary's players love & support him is that he treats them with respect & never intentionally embarrasses them. Right now, I believe he's trying to find a way to let Schaub down easy so as to not cause any unrest or devisiveness on the team.
Believe me when I say, I truely believe Case will be our starting QB for the rest of the season & will make a hard push to get us into the playoffs this year.
Believe me when I say, I truely believe Case will be our starting QB for the rest of the season & will make a hard push to get us into the playoffs this year.
I'm praying for a miracle. I don't care how much sense it does not make... I want a miracle & I want Case to become a legend.
This team wasn't built for Schaub to win us a Super Bowl. It was built for Arian & JJ to win us a Super Bowl. Case just needs to play smart & make a play every now & then.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Kubiak risks being embarrassed in front of a national audience if he rolls with Schaub as a starter against the Colts.. Remember in Capers' last season here when it became painfully obvious Carr couldn't play and Capers had no answers.. The reign of boos poured down on Capers and all he could do is stand there with that gaping deer in headlights look on his face. If Kubiak goes with Schaub and he makes the type of mistakes he's made this season the crowd will turn on him badly and could get ugly for Kubiak real fast.
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
When sorting all of this out, it's important to note that Keenum's impressive performance was despite:
Foster.........4 running attempts for 11 yds (2.8 yds/carry)
Tate..........15 running attempts for 50 yds (3.3 yds/carry)
Jones..........2 running attempts for 2 yds (1.0 yds/carry)
That's only 21 attempts for 63 yds for 3.0 yds/carry.
None of the RBs ran for more yds/carry than the 3.6 yds/carry that Keenum turned in on his 3 runs. :kubepalm:
Foster.........4 running attempts for 11 yds (2.8 yds/carry)
Tate..........15 running attempts for 50 yds (3.3 yds/carry)
Jones..........2 running attempts for 2 yds (1.0 yds/carry)
That's only 21 attempts for 63 yds for 3.0 yds/carry.
None of the RBs ran for more yds/carry than the 3.6 yds/carry that Keenum turned in on his 3 runs. :kubepalm:
Compare that to the running game Schaub was afforded against the Rams & SeaDucks. Im still trying to figure out how the hell they lost that Rams game by 25 when Foster was running wild.
Rams
Foster 20/141
Tate 10/12
SeaDucks
Foster 27/102
Tate 7/44
Lord Bills
Destruction
dont forget the dropped touchdown pass by hopkins and the long touchdown pass dropped by graham.
Keenum should have been over 300 yards with 3 tds and the win.
Vance87
All Pro
Eh. The Hopkins throw shoulda been on his left shoulder and not his right. Keenum admitted that post game. But the Graham throw, I think maybe Graham is trained to run shallow to catch under-thrown balls from another certain QB on our roster that he was surprised it lead him perfectly and he shouldn't have stopped short.
Scooter
Funky
and all of that was in the first half. by my count we had -1 rushing yards in the second half outside of a 9 yard run by keenum.
They're off.
I heard on the radio today, the Texans had a light practice, then were let go until next Tuesday.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
It dont matter it was still in his hands, regardless.
jaayteetx
All Pro
Are you kidding? The other guy gets paid too.
I was meaning in Kubiak's backyard or something. Geez, Louise.
utahmark
markbeth
Where that ball was thrown allowed the defender to make a play. A better throw and the defender would not of been able to make a play.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
i agree to an extent, all i am saying is the ball was still in his hands. Had he pulled the ball into his body right after he caught it then it would of been a TD.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
You may not have noticed, but once he caught it, instead of pulling it in immediately, he wasted movement unecessarily trying to re-position the ball in his hands.
Was not the greatest throw, was not the worst throw. Hopkins and kubiak both said that's a catch they expect him to make. Keenum said he expects to throw a better ball there.
But you're right looking at it from Hopkins perspective he could have pulled the ball into his body. I said that when it happened.
From keenums perspective he could have placed the ball better and given Hopkins an easier catch.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
You're reading this quote as the final answer. There was more emphasis than normal by Kubiak on that "we're going to evaluate that position... err, we're going to evaluate every position..."
He's just following the press conference teachings of Bill Belichick, i.e., answer the press pukes' questions but provide as little real information as you can get away with.
This is just my SWAG (Scientific Wild-A$$ Guess) but I think Case starts the next game. Or if Schaub does start he's on a chain-type leash that has like four links in it.
jaayteetx
All Pro
I'm going with this assumption for now but if Kubiak throws Matt Schaub out there against the colts, I'll be in full blown pink/blue/yellow you name it fire Kubiak soap mode.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Man I just don't know, how can a logical person watch the throws Case made and the movement case had and say Schaub is our best option...its just factually incorrect....case may not be the next best thing, but he is the best option we have right now.....let him finish the year and see if he is our top qb or if we need a first rounder.....give him the chance to earn the position going beyond this season
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Kubiak better not even consider splitting reps again. Case deserves all the prep from this day on to be fully prepared.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Yes... There is no way Schaub will start against Indy. He knows it. Case knows it. Schaub knows it. However, he's not going to call Schaub out or create undo pressure for Case, etc... My guess is the big debate right now at Reliant is whether they should keep Schaub active or place him on I.R... IR solves one set of problems but creates another. I'm guessing Schaub stays active but won't be shocked with IR news.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Logical ? We are talking about Gary Kubiak here.....Since when besides this 1 week in starting Case over Yates has the man EVER been logical ?
IlliniJen
Hall of Fame
I don't understand why he would semi-commit to naming a starting quarterback AT ALL at the presser. It doesn't make any sense. Just say that you're evaluating every position. Don't put yourself in the position (and Matt in the position) of naming a starter if you intend on yanking the rug out from under Schaub.
Lord Bills
Destruction
Schaub would get killed by the fans if he started. I wouldnt do that to schaub after what he went through getting booed when he got hurt, the house and burger thing.
Kubiak would not be doing anybody favors by starting schaub. Its a detriment to all parties involved.
Kubiak would not be doing anybody favors by starting schaub. Its a detriment to all parties involved.
I don't know. Judging by the ones he caught vs Tennessee & the ones he caught in the preseason, looks like that's about where Hopkins "likes" it. Maybe a little bit higher, but I thought it was a good throw.
Had we seen some back-shoulder throws before now, I'd think that was an option, but it took us this long to come around to throwing a jump ball....
Baby steps.
You know I don't hate Schaub. But there's no way Kubiak can start Schaub.
He's coddled him long enough. The, "You're my guy." approach got us 4 losses in a row. That along with sub-par performance from the rest of the team.
We should be in the, "Sorry Matt, the kid gives us the better chance to win." mode.
Then it's up to Matt to get himself in the right frame of mind & be prepared to win his job back if he gets another opportunity. 1st team snaps aren't going to help him anyway.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
It's too bad Tonya Harding isn't a Texans fan, we wouldn't have to worry about Kubiak screwing this up.
Right, you'd have to throw qualifiers in there,
"Matt Schuab gives us the best chance to win if he's gotten over whatever he was suffering from & plays more aggressive than his norm."
"Matt Schaub gives us the best chance to win if Keenum doesn't take better care of the ball."
"Matt Schaub gives us the best chance to win if Keenum doesn't take better care of the ball."
To assume those qualifiers to be true at this point, wouldn't be very smart. Schaub is in the position Keenum was in before Sunday. He's got to go out & prove he can handle the position & right now there's no reason to throw Matt out there if Case is healthy.
If Kubiak doesn't think Schaub is tougher than that, he never would have started him in the first place. He's the QB, he's got to be able to ignore "public scrutiny." He's got to be his own worse critic.
But right now, Schaub is like that gambler who thinks his luck is about to change.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
IR would be both smart AND merciful, as whenever he is game ready again (and that is realistically not before 4-6 weeks post this type of injury), he will not be able to perform even as poorly as he did prior to this last injury.
Just as in college, Keenum always take the responsibility and put it on his shoulder.
Like I said in the All-encompassing Keenum thread; the ball was thrown to the right spot. Hopkins was tracking the ball from the get-go; he should have been able to use his body to shield the defender away.
A pair of 10-inch hands on the ball is AlWAYS a good throw.
Yes, a perfect throw would be a hair closer to Hopkins, a hair higher, and a hair, but this is the NFL, dude.
If Hopkins made that catch, everybody would have called it a GREAT throw.