Texans just need to become competent in all those areas for Young to be great... and then the defense needs to be competent as well
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Which QB should the Texans consider signing/trading for?
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
See - there people go making it about race. Race ain’t got nothing to do with it. Most of us are wanting Caleb Williams next year. Who BTW is black.
SMH.
Some people just want to be angry and make others into racists.
Sad.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
On movement ability Seth Curry. People may not agree but when I watch Young he reminds me a bit on Joe Montana. I think he’s clutch, accurate, has excellent escapability and throws really well on the run. Montana wasn’t the biggest, fastest and he didn’t have the strongest arm but he had a knack for making plays. I’ve seen that in Bryce. As I said I hate Bama, I watched their games to see Bryce play BUT I wanted them to lose. I got to where I didn’t want Bryce to have the ball with any time left because more often than not he made something happen
And he had to overcome OB to do it
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
That’s a buying point for me.
So... what you're saying is.... you want the rich white family to select Caleb Williams?
You sir are......
texanhead08
All Pro
Knocks against Young
Size
unteach the BOB in him.
Size
unteach the BOB in him.
He's done pretty good at overcoming both
How many championships have those guys won? You have to be able to throw from the pocket to win championships. It helps to be taller so you can see better. Otherwise you have to move the pocket etc... so they can see the field better and that limits the offense. It has nothing to do with being a white guy, it has to do with the style of offense that wins championships.
BTW, I'm rooting for Hurts to win a championship this yr if Burrow doesn't. Why do I think Hurts can win a championship? Because he's learned to throw better from the pocket. He's a local guy who has a great work ethic to improve this area of weakness in his game as much as he has. Kuddos to Hurts.
How many will they eventually when? Each have about a dozen more seasons to find out? Have you gone back to the future in your DeLorean to find out?
That style has never won championships before. You like betting on inside straights?
Because the world always remains stagnant and there is never change.
Roger Staubach was known as a scrambler.
Roger Staubach | Pro Football Hall of Fame
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His 5.5 ypc was even more remarkable when you take into account the fact that he was already 29 when he got his first 10-start year.
Also, in those days, QBs were treated just the same as RBs
Do tell us when this change is coming and how much you're willing to be that, that style will win a SB within the next 5 yrs? Hurts doesn't count because he's learned how to throw from the pocket.
It's not about being stagnant it's about doing what's necessary to win championships. You know why that style doesn't win? Because the QB's so beatup by the end of the yr, they aren't the same QB they were at the beginning of the yr. If I just had to use that style QB I would draft 2 QB's with that style to give me the best chance possible to win a championship.
Example if LJ was my QB, I would do what was necessary to draft Fields so when LJ got hurt the offense wouldn't fall off and when LJ wanteda new contract that would be a cap killer I would let him walk and start looking for the next LJ to pair with Fields.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Lol exactly. This is a different world we live in. This generation of quarterbacks are more athletic than those of the past. Defensive linemen are faster too.
Bradshaw doesn't scramble as much as he had great weapons, but his 5.2 ypc career average and 32 rushing TDs is no slouch.
Yet Brady/Stafford etc... keep on winning those darned old championships.
And the types of QB's winning championships remain the same. This is an uncomfortable truth for some.
I'm not saying a QB doesn't need to be mobile. But as much as some want run 1st QB's to win championships, that hasn't happened and wont be winning championships anytime soon.
I just dont get why some refuse to look at things and learn from history, instead of looking at things like hey, man things will eventually change. Change when and how long will it take for things to change the way some posters hope they will? I'm betting not in the next 5 yrs maybe 10.
Why do you think Young can't throw from the pocket? What is wrong with a moving pocket? Isn't that what you've been screaming for post-Kubiak? Did you watch the Bama-Texas game? Young stood in the pocket to deliver big throws, he moved up in the pocket, he took hits, he escaped pressure and made downfield throws all game long. That Alabama team has no wr's that will go in the first round and no OT's that will go in the first round. But Young has carried them to just outside the CFB playoffs and if not for USC choking in the Pac-12 title game, Bama would be facing OSU (who is in the playoffs) in a big bowl game. Get over your size prejudices and watch some game film.
All that said, I hope the Texans don't take a QB this year. But I'm expecting they do and if so I hope it's Young
Steve Young was another well-known scrambler with a career average of 5.9 ypc and 43 rushing TDs.
Who says anything about run-first QB?
Players are bigger in the NFL, it's why midget QB's struggle to throw from the pocket. You can move the pocket some. But if that's the main staple of your offense, then you're limiting the offense you can run and with a short QB you have to move the pocket. Look at Wilson's struggles with the Broncos in a conventional offense as an example of what I'm talking about.
Rich Gannon didn't get to start as much, but once he had 529 rushing yard in a year, when he was 35.
Wilson is getting old and he's been injured. Not a good combination.
McNabb didn't win a SB only because of Brady.
If you say so,
I'm betting if Manning had made the SB's instead of Brady, McNabb would've still lost. McNabbhad a chance to win a SB late in the game and ended up throwing up on T.O.'s shoes. So I think you're reaching.
He must've really aged in the yr he was a Seahawk until the yr he became a Bronco. LMAO If you're right then Pete Carroll is a genius.
Rodgers is underrated as a scrambler, but he has a 4.9 ypc career average with 34 rushing TDs.
The guy is well known for scrambling around to buy time to throw a pass.
Wilson is struggling because he's old and washed up
No comprende amigo.
We're talking about 2 different things. Gannon only ran when he had too. He wasn't a run 1st QB who had run plays designed for him. I'm not talking about boots in a WC offense.
Three Reasons Why Donovan McNabb Didn't Win the Super Bowl in Philadelphia
Donovan McNabb is one of the most talked about quarterbacks in the league who doesn't have moral issues or is not named Brett Favre. Though not immune to criticism, his challenge of not winning a Super Bowl over the years haven't all been self-construed.
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529 yards is a lot of running.
And again, nobody is talking about run first.
The run is always secondary to most of these guys.
Only guys like Vick and Jackson are over the top.
Kaepernick didn't win despite leading the offense to 31 points.
The defense (2nd in points allowed) let Flacco's Ravens score 34.
That's simply not true. McNabb threw up but T.O never saw it.
T.O. knows ‘for a fact’ that McNabb was out drinking
As for why McNabb would be throwing up in the huddle during the most important game of his career, Owens says that his former Eagles teammates gave him the dirt: McNabb was out drinking the night before and was hungover during the game.
And yes, Wilson did win a SB against Manning.
What ever the reason, Wilson is playing much like the QB for Cleveland did last Sunday
So you wouldn't want a QB that can get your team to a SB?
Bryce Young only had two more carries in 12 games than Mahomes in 11 games.
The difference was the offensive line, not because Young has a tendency to take off and run.
You fail to make any point to support your claim.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
definitely. From what ive seen of him, he’s no where close to ready.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
3rd,4th rd
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
If Mahomes wasn't mobile, they wouldn't have even beaten Tennessee. His mobility is what killed the Titans with his ability to extend plays from the pocket and outside the pocket. Vs TB, with his line in shambles, he was running for his life. There is a different from mobility and a scrambler, but people want to make sure to cast certain qbs as scrambler vs mobile. Again, Russell Wilson won a superbowl as a scrambler. Almost everything he did was off script.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
So you get a QB that is smart enough to NOT go out for heavy drinking the night before
If I was a team like Chicago I would draft Richardson at the top of the 3rd. He would be a perfect fill in, for when Fields eventually gets hurt. Same with the Ravens and LJ.
Pretty soon it’s going to. Not many pocket passers in the league, or coming into the league. TimesAchangin.
I hate it myself