Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
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What is up with the empty seats?
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GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
That somebody spent a hell of a lot of money on water. Wow.
We are in the shade, across from the bullpen and I felt for you guys during the game. Reliant is NOT designed for airflow and you could just see the sun beating down on the seats. I think 2 people stayed in their seats during halftime, and I can't imagine why they did.
As far as people being in their seats goes, people complaining here are basically preaching to the choir. Anyone who cares enough about the team to post here, is more than likely in their seats for the entire game, yelling and being loud.
I will admit that each time one of these threads gets started, I take it a little personally. I should just get over that, but maybe people should think twice about posting threads criticizing fans at the game. Yes, there are lots of potted plant fans (lol, TC), but more than likely they are not reading this.
I started the thread, and I realize several people are taking it personally, but really, it's not meant as criticism. It's really an "I don't understand this" thing. To me (and I don't consider myself poor), those tickets are expensive, and it really seems strange to me that someone wouldn't be making an effort to be there at the start - feels like a waste of money! Then, at the end of the game, it just seemed bizarre to me to leave when it was that close. Maybe the feel at the game was different than watching it on TV, but to me, there was even more tension/excitement (and yes, disappointment) going into the last drive, not less. I mean, if there's any time to stay and watch a football game, wouldn't that be it? I'm not saying this in the "you're not a real fan" sense, but in an "isn't this one of the reasons people buy tickets to the game in the first place" sense. I figured there had to be some reason (and the heat makes a lot of sense) for why so many seats were empty.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
The company I work for is primarily a ticket broker agency
We and our compeditors bought a ton of them and now we can't give them away.
Mystery of the empty seats solved
We and our compeditors bought a ton of them and now we can't give them away.
Mystery of the empty seats solved
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
If you can, go back and look at the kickoff of the Steelers game. There was a whole lot of empty seats for that game at the start. And you wouldn't think that'd be the case in Pittsburgh where the Steelers are all they give a damn about there. It isn't just here.
The problem is, and maybe this has been mentioned as I haven't read the whole thread, is people, regular people, fans, aren't buying the tickets, mainly because they are so expensive. Corporations are. Then they give those tickets away to their managers, department leaders, whoever, who may or may not end up going for whatever reason. Nobody cares if the ticket gets used 'cause it's nothing more than a write off to them.
Then you've got these areas in the stadium, like where I'm at, the Crown Royal Saloon or whatever it's called. You go into this area to buy a drink and you can't take your drink out of that area. I think they have tv's to watch the game (never actually been in there) so people leave their seats, go get a drink, and have to watch the game there while they finish their drink. It's almost like a club level bar for the upper deck. Everybody's at the bar instead of in their seats, just like the clubbers.
I don't get why you'd go through all the trouble of going to the stadium, dealing with the crowds and the outrageous prices, just to watch the game on a tv. But neither do I care. It's not my money. My money has me in my seat from beginning to end every single game no matter the score. I don't care about how many empty seats there are, whether there's a roof or not, whether the grass is green enough, what color shirts everyone's wearing or any of that stuff. All I care about is having a good time with friends and family and the football team winning games.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Oh the humanity.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
"It ain't right!"
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I'm not speaking about the slow arrivals or the people in the concourses during the meat of the game due to the inappropriate stadium design when the roof is open in a City this hot, because most of the fans were in the house so I'm not gonna judge them.... but it was downright sad how empty the stadium was on the final drive...kinda disheartening to see how small the hard core base really is. This stuff takes time and winning will cure much of that and the base will grow broader, unless we continue to lose of course.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
There are a ton of hardcore Texans fans that can't afford tickets. Even the cheap tickets are twice as expensive as say, a Rockets ticket.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
You're a closet 3&2 beer lover????
Right... I guess I'm getting old and can't handle the 'real' stuff.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
There are only 8 home games so football is pretty unique in the pro sport realm. Football will never be as cheap as baseball or basketball.
Bottom line is, every NFL fan base deals with this and their are plenty of people who can afford a seat in the Greater Houston area and beyond. It will be interesting to see what happens when our no-blackout grant is lifted. Now that most teams have these new super corporate driven stadiums this is a larger issue than it was in the Oiler days for sure though, you are right about that.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
I thought that was over the season before last? It was only through 5 seasons, right?
I think this has been posted in thsi thread like 10 times, lmao.
IIRC, it was 5 years.
We're in no danger, IMHO, of a black out. The problem isn't ticket SALES, it's getting those tickets through the turn style.
Shaft75
All Pro
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Vinny
shiny happy fan
I've been invited to the old fart brigade for what seems like pretty obvious reasons now. I think I feel sometimers disease creeping in.
I couldn't agree more. But this thread isn't about how lousy the team looks. It is about the empty seats.......wait, I think I see a connection.
when the team looks like it is interested in winning a ballgame, then the stadium seats will start looking like more people are interested in see-ing that also.
cowbellm00
100% Houstonian
ok, i stand corrected about the example, but i still think when we put this ever elusive "winning streak" together everyone will start filling the seats on a more regular basis. I still say wins = fans in the stands.
ubecool454
Veteran
You walked out on the team. Why not just keep walking and never come back..lol.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
I don't question his fandom by his leaving early. This fan like me drives hundreds of miles to see the Texans play. Many fans in Houston are no shows with our present record. So not showing vs leaving early?
eriadoc
Texan-American
blah blah blah ..... same formula as always - deride someone's fandom. Anyone still watching this team after 7.25 seasons of utter futility is a fan. Period. At some point, the team has to meet us halfway.
When the opponents score a TD with under 2 minutes to go in the NFL, it's usually a win. When they do it against the Texans, it's almost always a win. I can't speak for everyone, but I have no desire to become Cub fan.
Texanfan4ever
Rookie
The sun is a killer. We can't complain this year because it is nobody's fault, and at least our team is here. BUT that being said, it is a 100 degree sweltering stagnated heat down on the 10th row, unbearable for most. You can't fault folks for getting up. Try it one time and you will understand.
This Sunday will be better. We are in 119 and they get shade starting right about 3:05. SO, it should be better by far, with no excuses.
Funniest part is the people who leave early have missed the best or worst part of each game here at home. It is not that hard to get out of the parking lot. Stay to the END and support your team.
This Sunday will be better. We are in 119 and they get shade starting right about 3:05. SO, it should be better by far, with no excuses.
Funniest part is the people who leave early have missed the best or worst part of each game here at home. It is not that hard to get out of the parking lot. Stay to the END and support your team.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
You might of thought some people learned that lesson last season against Tennessee
(although the final outcome was still a loss, many people missed out on an exciting finish).
dtran04
Veteran
The OKC Thunder will have better fans than the Rockets this year, and that is sad. A team that will struggle to win any game at all will have a more rabid fanbase than a team that is at least a playoff/championship contender. All it took was a 22 win streak before fans got their butts in their seats. After that streak.....back to the old ways.
Much like the standards for the team have lowered, standards for fans should be lowered too. Getting all worked up for fans that don't cheer, arrive early, leave late, etc. isn't worth it. It will probably never change.
Much like the standards for the team have lowered, standards for fans should be lowered too. Getting all worked up for fans that don't cheer, arrive early, leave late, etc. isn't worth it. It will probably never change.
Joe Texan
Inducted 04
I am always there, every proffessional football game in Reliant stadium.
When you Boo the team you might as well leave, Booing only belongs in this stadium when the Big Jerseys are up in the Bull Pen.
For those who sold thier tickets because we are losing do not let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. That to me is as fair weather as you can get.
We will win and we will lose but the battle red and steel blue will never fade.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
There was less than a minute to go when most people walked out
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
and they deserved to be disappointed!! JMO! I remember being so ticked off at the Titan's game last year I wanted to leave and never go back! As I was walking the concourse looking for something to HIT because I was so mad at my team, I heard a HUGE roar from the crowd. Made my way over to the rail and watched Sage take our guys down the field. I found a seat on the 40 yd line where I watched some of the most exciting LAST few minutes of any TEXAN home game ever witnessed, and I have seen them all. No, we didn't win, BUT, we damn sure came close, and I will NEVER forget those last couple minutes where our TEXANS played some of the best comeback football I had ever seen.
0:00 on the clock has always been our motto since 2002. I pay for 60 minutes of football, and by golly, that's what I'm going to get. (It might be bad football sometimes, but hey, we're still there!)
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Well guess what you are gonna get a lesson in fandom...from this koolaid drinking battle red revolution startin...getting banned for using turpitude in the wrong way ( jk: runner) loud as heck Texan fan from San Antonio.(sec 140)( Track me down regs)
i got tired of hearing yall whine so its time to teach yall why teams come to San Antonio and more often than not get beat. Its not because of the 4 time champions its because of me. the games I go to they win because I yell my freaking head off. hell yeah. empty seat my arse... its only gonna be empty cause im standing up yelling to motivate my team to victory.
MY BETTLE CRY WILL ROCK THE LIONS TO THEIR CORE.
(BATTLE RED BEEEEEEEYOTHCES)
ITS ON........are you ready Houston?
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Wow, I was just on TA tickets looking at the Bengals game. I know I would be LUCKY to get face value for an 8th row 116 ticket. Scrolling through their site, I went through 100+ tickets before I got to tickets even close to their face value. THAT certainly doesn't help fill seats.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
I have to admit, Davis' catch in that game is by far the biggest play in Texans history for me.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Sir, I must respectfully tell you, I am going to get a lesson in fandom from no one.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Sir, I must respectfully tell you, I am going to get a lesson in fandom from no one.
Seconded!!!
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Sir, I must respectfully tell you, I am going to get a lesson in fandom from no one.
Whatever, isn't that you sitting in the club level during the Miami game?
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Nope. And I don't wear suits unless I absolutely have to any more. And I don't do conference calls either. I could go the entire rest of my life without ever being on one of those thingies. I must admit to liking wine and cheese. But never during a Texans game.
Nah, I'm the durned fool trying to get the people behind the Bull Pen Pep Band to make some noise during defense or be quiet when we are on offense. Basically, it is me, KT, the Pep Band and some other random people trying to get that side of the stadium not to be so lame. Some times we succeed.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Sadly, with the price of sideline seats, I think the sides will always be generally lame, with a few fans scattered about trying to fight the good fight.
Maybe it'll change after a trip or two to the playoffs.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Sir, I must respectfully tell you, I am going to get a lesson in fandom from no one.
We shall se then...we shall see.....
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
We will be in sec 140 is that near you guys....
Spurstexanstros and Texizgreat <-------not lame
It was warm, but not that hot. In the sun, I can see, but its the way football should be, in the elements.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Ahhh, I agree, IF you have an open air stadium or at least a stadium built to move the air. Reliant is not.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
Again...this is Texas and football is king.....football is born under the hot sun of Texas every year...stop complaining about the heat and bring some sunscreen!!!!!!! that or drink mass quantities of adult beverages and you wont care what the temp is......
Oh yeah I am on the way home to pick up my fed exed tickets yeah!!!!!!
Oh yeah I am on the way home to pick up my fed exed tickets yeah!!!!!!
dskillz
Waterboy
Who are you to come in here telling people how to be a fan? Is a person who can't afford to go to a game, but look at every game on TV, go to player appearances, listen to every radio interview less than a fan than you?
A person who goes to the game, sits and watches instead of standing throughout the game is less of a fan than you?
A person who displays his fandom in a different way does not need to be called out? This crap goes on waaaay too much. Not just here, just in general. Just because you want to scream and yell and stand doesn't mean everyone has to do the same. Different strokes and all that. If TC or someone else wants to look at formations, look at who is playing hurt, look at reactions from the coaching staff, while you are high-fiving everyone in the section, that is her and everyone else's choice. Plenty of times at games where I have seen "fans" are so busy proving they are "real fans" by their audible level and beer intake miss the entire game.
I can gurantee you McNair isn't jumping up and down screaming at everyone in his box to "Get Loud", so I guess that makes him less of a fan too in your book. You are a certain type of fan, let others do their thing as well without try to call them out.
Back to the point of the topic, the honeymoon with the team is starting to end and you are seeing it in the attendance of the season ticket holders and number/price of tickets on stubhub and TA.com Even a win like last week didn't really excite me after the team played so poorly all game. I saw a last second touchdown from #8 before, but that one was a QB leap at the goal line. Until this team can make that next step from mediocrity into being good I think you will continue to see masses of people getting in the stadium late, leaving early, not showing up at all, selling tickets.