Week 5 Texans vs Jaguars
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texanhead08
All Pro
Texans still own the Jags
austins23
Hall of Fame
The Texans are to the Jags like the Astros are to the Yankees…
Their DADDY!!
wildroot
Rookie
You probably won't see him playing like the 1st pick of the draft until next year at least.
Mahomes is the exception, and if I remember, he sat his rookie year.
Toro Bravo
Rookie
I certainly expect him to get an angry runs sceptor from Kyle Brandt.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Good lord… that game.
today my wife was like “we’re gonna win!”
I’m like, uh not yet. You remember that game when we first met?!
I cant believe the Jags threw the ball 47 times with as bad as the Texans run defense is.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Pederson was doing his best OB impersonation
From time to time. Andy Reid and guys from his coaching tree need a head slap to remind them about being too pass happy.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
But they have Lawrence of Jacksonpoop as QB, they have to throw.
vtech9
All Pro
i'm re-watching the game. I wanted to verify what I thought I saw on the first Texans possession. On the 3rd and 6 play to Cooks on the sideline, while watching it live, I thought it was a good throw by Mills, and a bad play by Cooks. After re-watching that play several times, my first reaction was correct. Cooks misread the ball, and jumped early. He probably didn't need to jump at all. If he had taken one more step, the ball would have been right there. Since he jumped early, he was already on the way down when the ball got there. He almost made a great play, but if not for his bad read, it would have been a routine catch.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
When I said Evan Williams was good I forgot to mention it's also 110 proof.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
Some thoughts on today's game:
- Mills > Lawrence because he was a little more efficient and didn't make the costly mistake(s) that Lawrence did, although it wasn't a particularly impressive performance by either. Say what you want about the dumb Travon Walker penalty, but Mills & Team capitalized on it and initiated a late game winning drive, on the road. My hope is that this GWD inspires confidence in Mills that he can rally the team late, because he hasn't been good in pressure situations to date, whether closing games, dealing with the blitz etc. He got it done against a fairly good defense today.
- Nico Collins is looking more like the team's #1 receiver. Collins gradually seems to be running better routes, using his size more and making more adjustments, like he did on that 4th quarter 23-yards comeback adjustment ball. I'm just not impressed with Cooks ability to separate, ability to snag tough catches and straight drops. Collins needle is incrementally pointing up while Cooks is down.
- Desmond King is solid. With 3 PDs today in the secondary, King now has 7 PDs in 5 games and adds value on special teams as well. A couple of really nice pass deflections at key spots. About as solid as it gets from a CB3. Absolute steal @ $3.5M/annually through next season.
- Dameon Pierce. What can you say, the man is a horse. Runs with burst and power, but also is slippery and fights for extra yardage. Hit on his first nice screen pass today for 11 yards. I think Pierce in the open field is very dangerous I would expect more RB screens going forward. Reminds me of Maurice Jones-Drew with the ability to run with power in a short compact body, but breakaway ability in the open field.
- Stingley first pick was all because he identified the play and returned to the proper position where Lawrence eventually threw the ball in the endzone. It shows Stingley was playing with his head and adapted based on muscle memory. He has an idea out there.
Nice win heading into the bye week. A very necessary one that hopefully inspired some confidence moving forward. Should at least take some pressure off in the short term. Let's see how the team responds in 2 weeks.
- Mills > Lawrence because he was a little more efficient and didn't make the costly mistake(s) that Lawrence did, although it wasn't a particularly impressive performance by either. Say what you want about the dumb Travon Walker penalty, but Mills & Team capitalized on it and initiated a late game winning drive, on the road. My hope is that this GWD inspires confidence in Mills that he can rally the team late, because he hasn't been good in pressure situations to date, whether closing games, dealing with the blitz etc. He got it done against a fairly good defense today.
- Nico Collins is looking more like the team's #1 receiver. Collins gradually seems to be running better routes, using his size more and making more adjustments, like he did on that 4th quarter 23-yards comeback adjustment ball. I'm just not impressed with Cooks ability to separate, ability to snag tough catches and straight drops. Collins needle is incrementally pointing up while Cooks is down.
- Desmond King is solid. With 3 PDs today in the secondary, King now has 7 PDs in 5 games and adds value on special teams as well. A couple of really nice pass deflections at key spots. About as solid as it gets from a CB3. Absolute steal @ $3.5M/annually through next season.
- Dameon Pierce. What can you say, the man is a horse. Runs with burst and power, but also is slippery and fights for extra yardage. Hit on his first nice screen pass today for 11 yards. I think Pierce in the open field is very dangerous I would expect more RB screens going forward. Reminds me of Maurice Jones-Drew with the ability to run with power in a short compact body, but breakaway ability in the open field.
- Stingley first pick was all because he identified the play and returned to the proper position where Lawrence eventually threw the ball in the endzone. It shows Stingley was playing with his head and adapted based on muscle memory. He has an idea out there.
Nice win heading into the bye week. A very necessary one that hopefully inspired some confidence moving forward. Should at least take some pressure off in the short term. Let's see how the team responds in 2 weeks.
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
Glad to get the W. I’m still irked by the tie.
Who would you like to see picked at those positions?
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Safety man just needs to learn to trust Nico. He threw a 50/50 ball Nico had zero chance. The other one he had the chance and made the catch. Qb has to play alot better.Pep has to absolutely gameplay a way to get Nico more involved than Burkhead lol
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
Trust takes some time and Nico needed t get incrementally better himself. He may be at the point where he can take that step to become a focal point in the offense. Let's see what happens coming out of the bye.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
What has Burkehead done to earn such trust? If its one on one on the sideline, throw a back shoulder. Its either incomplete,a catch, or maybe even a pi.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
Burkhead has an extensive track record of being a serviceable runner and pass catcher RB2 in the backfield. Fundamentally, he's fairly sound. He just isn't explosive and has lost a couple of steps and effectiveness over the past couple of years... Collins was a semi-project with tools coming out of college who had some holes in his game, and some injury issues last year which stunted his growth. He may hitting critical mass of positive performance to the point where he's earning the trust of coaching staff. Change takes time.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Finally watched it and can't understand why Jags didn't keep running the ball. Its like Pederson turned into old Andy Reid and forgot the run. Both guys were running well. Good win nonetheless
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
What happened to Walker and Allen? Both tackles held up well
Michael Mayer and the best WR or pass rusher possible. Pep wants to utilize the TE so it would make sense to grab a stud. Mayer, Howard and either Akins or Jordan (let them fight it out). As far as pass rusher could be an inside or outside DL.
Dejaview
All Pro
seems to me Lovie is stopping the bleeding and the Texans are showing early signs of being more competitive and consistent.…I know it’s the Jags but they have been playing better football lately. Obviously NC can draft talent. One and a half drafts in and it is those draftees making the biggest impact as one would hope/expect. It also shows that we are still a draft or two away. NC also recognized a solid use for UDFA Hairston, hard nosed and a good dude. Will be interesting if Hinish can physically develop into a spawn of Siragusa. Pep needs to join the program and air out DM before next year’s draft. Just an observation but is it possible, despite the dearth of talent, that Lovie’s D is just a few players away from getting really interesting? Seems to me besides upsetting this MB that he also seems to upset the tempo of his opponents offense. If so he is as crazy…as a fox.
banned1976
sleeper mode
They won. That’s good. I didn’t delete it yet from my dvr
OptimisticTexan
2023 / Rebuilding Block 3 / Go Texans
……might be the right move. Could you point to the next Andrew Luck type of QB in this draft class? Maybe even the Josh Allen? Just b/c the team may possess the 1-5 pick in the draft doesn’t obligate them to pick a QB1. A QB1 #1 pick overall better give the team all the warm and fuzzies that Luck gave the Colts. Personally, I don’t see that QB in the 2023 NFL Draft.
I've got Mayer and Washington as TE 1and 2 on my board. But.there may be more value in picking TE's Gilbert, Stover and LaPorta in the 3rd
I'm thinking after seeing the defense getting run over I might go Anderson and Ika in the 1st to help stop the run game and pass rush, then go skill position players the rest of the draft. This is another build out the trenches draft
TexanBorn51
Veteran
It appears that the Texans came out of this game with no significant injuries no? With 2 coming weeks of inactive players to recover from the bye also be beneficial.
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
This is what losing to the Texans does to somebody. Local reporter going off on his two number one draft picks. Video is filled with Pedersen’s post game so you have to skip over it.
TexanBorn51
Veteran
"Pfft! Just pfft man bro"
whateva lol
TexanBorn51
Veteran
interception and turnovers not good for any team in any game
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Davis Mills still doing more for the Texans than Lawrence of Interceptionville is doing for the Jags.
Maybe if he got a haircut it might help air out his brain.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I don’t get how a #1 draft pick who is supposed to be a generational talent is not as 1/2 as good as his hype was.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
The draft is always a crapshoot. How many highly touted "sure picks" have utterly failed in the NFL? We've had a few ourselves.
Contradictory?
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
Lol... The Trevor Lawrence haters are coming out of the woodwork after crapping the bed for the second straight week. This one is titled: TREVOR LAWRENCE IS KILLING THE JAGUARS. IS IT TIME FOR CJ BEATHARD? 
Yes, it is.
At this point and seeing teams just run over them, I can't make up my mind. They need skill position players in the worst way. But if you can't rush the passer and stop the run you aren't going to win many games.
Draft these 2 dl and sign an impact lb in fa and the defense will be much improved. If Caserio was to go this way, I'm hoping either Washington or Johnston falls to the top of the 2nd. If this doesn't happen I'm picking the best TE at the top of the 2nd and trading back into the 2nd for hopefully Mingo or Rahsee Rice. Both are big WR's that can run and have good hands I don't know how to move this to the draft section. But if the mods want to move this post we can continue this discussion over there.
Yeah I don’t see it either. Not sold on Stroud and the Alabama QB has a small frame. Might as well fill the other needs first.
I think that's the first time I've heard that a team was 'out-toughed' by the Texans!
vtech9
All Pro
Agreed. I look at Bryce Young as another Kylar Murray. I'll pass.
They have more skilled position players than defensive linemen. And pretty soon, they will need bookend OTs.
It's a process. It's going to take time. One draft at a time.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
wow..Lol... The Trevor Lawrence haters are coming out of the woodwork after crapping the bed for the second straight week. This one is titled: TREVOR LAWRENCE IS KILLING THE JAGUARS. IS IT TIME FOR CJ BEATHARD?
vtech9
All Pro
The Texans basically need a whole new front 7 on Defense, and upgrades at most OLine positions.
Why do you think they will need bookend OT's? Tunsil and and Howard are still young guys.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
100% I'm with steebtexan that if the draft was tomorrow, I'm investing heavily on the defensive front 7, and especially pass rushing edge DE and OLB. The latter assumes that John Greenard doesn't take a step forward, as he hasn't this year. DT needed also, although I feel this is less of an immediate concern. The lack of pass rush is troubling on this team, and Hughs isn't going to last much longer. The fact that Lawrence crapped the bed with a mostly clean pocket all game is a testament to the secondary, which has made the biggest leap this year. Imagine the front 7 could actually pressure the QB with any consistency??
badboy
Hall of Fame
Texans spotlight: Analyzing 5 impact players from win over Jaguars
Dameon Pierce's performance and the special teams duo of Cam Johnston and Ka'imi...
Texansballer74
The Marine
Because it’s a good chance one of them won’t be here next season. So you have to be prepared. Not only that you have to groom another LT for Tunsil possible departure in two years.
wildroot
Rookie
Maybe one of the WRs at 6 (there's 2 or 3 that should go top 10) and Sewell at 13.
I'd like to get a high-motor LB and a WR early.
Then DE, RB, CB and OL as they fall in line the rest of the way. However the "board" is stacked now, it'll be totally different by April '23.
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