The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

[spurstexanstros]

Really? Cuz we don't. Last year we won 1 game in our division. We are a whopping 2-14 against the Colts, who we are built to beat? Yes, we beat them last time. I'm not convinced we won't lose the next 5 divisional games is a row...

You know what?, I think we're built to beat the Raiders, Cardinals, and Longhorns...

Well so far this year we are 1-0 against our division and like I said in my post. If we play like that against teams in our division or conference then worry. I am waiting to see how they bounce back from this loss and how they want to go into the bye a 4-2 team or 3-3. I am not pushing panic button yet.

 

[GP]

I noticed lots of times where our guys on defense are turning to each other, waving arms at each other, running to one spot and then realizing it's the wrong spot, and generally BARELY getting to a spot before the snap.

We had no clue, from a coaching standpoint to a player standpoint, what to do against the Giants offense.

When, all along, it was fairly obvious that all they were doing was throwing to Nicks on the sideline and/or Bradshaw out in the flats. Yet there was zero adjustment made by our coaches.

There's gotta' be something going on that we don't know about. There has to be some sort of shift within the staff and/or players that has got this group divided and easy prey.

They did not look like this last year. The rush defense was porous but that soon stopped. This thing, now, is just growing worse and worse as each week passes.

NFC East teams are devouring us like chicken wings. Whereas the NFC West teams (Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, 49ers) were soft, these NFC East teams are big, nasty road graders in the trenches. Just as we try to be built for stopping the Colts, it appears the NFC East teams are built to collide head-on with one another every year...and we just got in the way of the brawl.

Anyone else get that feeling? Like we just accidentally entered a really really bad bar fight between very large men with a high pain tolerance? "Excuse me, coming through, pardon me, uhh..ackk! What are you doing? NO! Oh dear God, please stop! Uggh. Ouch! Hey, that's not legal! Uumpph! Someone call 9-1-1! I'm one of Gary's kids! I'm a minor, he doesn't even know I'm here!!!"

 

[DexmanC]

I noticed lots of times where our guys on defense are turning to each other, waving arms at each other, running to one spot and then realizing it's the wrong spot, and generally BARELY getting to a spot before the snap.

We had no clue, from a coaching standpoint to a player standpoint, what to do against the Giants offense.

When, all along, it was fairly obvious that all they were doing was throwing to Nicks on the sideline and/or Bradshaw out in the flats. Yet there was zero adjustment made by our coaches.

There's gotta' be something going on that we don't know about. There has to be some sort of shift within the staff and/or players that has got this group divided and easy prey.

They did not look like this last year. The rush defense was porous but that soon stopped. This thing, now, is just growing worse and worse as each week passes.

NFC East teams are devouring us like chicken wings. Whereas the NFC West teams (Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, 49ers) were soft, these NFC East teams are big, nasty road graders in the trenches. Just as we try to be built for stopping the Colts, it appears the NFC East teams are built to collide head-on with one another every year...and we just got in the way of the brawl.

Anyone else get that feeling? Like we just accidentally entered a really really bad bar fight between very large men with a high pain tolerance? "Excuse me, coming through, pardon me, uhh..ackk! What are you doing? NO! Oh dear God, please stop! Uggh. Ouch! Hey, that's not legal! Uumpph! Someone call 9-1-1! I'm one of Gary's kids! I'm a minor, he doesn't even know I'm here!!!"

What you're describing, is when the defense quit playing for Richard Smith.
Wait for the players to drop the "We just run what's called" line, and you'll
have your answer.

 

[K_Jizzle....]

Man, I think it time for the Coach to go and the especially the Defensive Coordinator. We have a good front four and good linbackers but the DB's suck (Not Pollard). So with all the talent we have there is no excuse why we are last in defense. We don't blitz, no stunts, no linebacker blitz. We just play regular defense and get no pressure on the Quarterback. We need coaches that are defensive minded. Offense will be ok. But Defense is what wins CHAMPIONSHIPS........

 

[awtysst]

Man, I think it time for the Coach to go and the especially the Defensive Coordinator. We have a good front four and good linbackers but the DB's suck (Not Pollard). So with all the talent we have there is no excuse why we are last in defense. We don't blitz, no stunts, no linebacker blitz. We just play regular defense and get no pressure on the Quarterback. We need coaches that are defensive minded. Offense will be ok. But Defense is what wins CHAMPIONSHIPS........

Ok, Who would you replace them with? Its easy to say they should be fired, but its not so easy to come up with any solid replacements. There is a reason NFL coaches don't get fired in the middle of the season.

 

[Dutchrudder]

You idi0ts can't wait until we have a losing record to pull out the pink soap? C'mon guys...

 

[houstonspartan]

You idi0ts can't wait until we have a losing record to pull out the pink soap? C'mon guys...

Uh, no, idi0t.

No one "WANTS" to lose. I have not seen anyone say that they are rooting for a losing season. Most of us want to win, and want to win with KUBIAK.

What we are saying, however, is that some of us are not convinced that that is possible. If Kubiak takes us to the playoffs and beyond, I will HAPPILY eat crow and praise him. If he stinks it up, he will be criticized.

That's how it works.

 

[Double Barrel]

This is where I'm at as well, but it doesn't keep me from bitching about them. When the Oilers left town, I no longer cared about them. If the Texans leave town, the same there. As long as the Texans are a Houston team I'll always have them on my TV whether I'm cursing them or happy with them.

Football teams from Houston are just ill-fated it seems. Someone needs to hire a witch doctor or perform an exorcism or something.

I still think that Reliant/Astrodome are built on ancient Indian burial grounds or a nuclear waste dump or something equally disturbing.

Case in point: the Astros did nothing spectacular until they moved to Enron/Minutemaid, and then finally made it to a WS.

The Oilers history is well known, and that franchise never made it to the big dance until they left the Astrodome for Hillbillyville.

The Texans...8+ seasons and counting before they do anything...anything at all...anything worth even mentioning....still counting...

I second that motion for an exorcism!!

 

[Dutchrudder]

Uh, no, idi0t.

No one "WANTS" to lose. I have not seen anyone say that they are rooting for a losing season. Most of us want to win, and want to win with KUBIAK.

Yeah, I'm sure you love Kubiak a whole lot, just enough not to ask for him to be fired after 4 games. You gave him 5, good for you, lol...

Firing coaches mid-season works in baseball and sometimes basketball because the seasons last so long. In the NFL, there's really no point in removing a head coach mid-season because there won't be enough time for him to change anything significantly enough to turn the team around.

What we are saying, however, is that some of us are not convinced that that is possible. If Kubiak takes us to the playoffs and beyond, I will HAPPILY eat crow and praise him. If he stinks it up, he will be criticized.

That's how it works.

The team is 3-2, so how about waiting until they have a losing record before saying the Texans can't win with Kubiak?

 

[Mr. White]

Yeah, I'm sure you love Kubiak a whole lot, just enough not to ask for him to be fired after 4 games. You gave him 5, good for you, lol...

Firing coaches mid-season works in baseball and sometimes basketball because the seasons last so long. In the NFL, there's really no point in removing a head coach mid-season because there won't be enough time for him to change anything significantly enough to turn the team around.

I don't think anyone's advocating for him to be replaced during the middle of the season.

The team is 3-2, so how about waiting until they have a losing record before saying the Texans can't win with Kubiak?

The record isn't all that impressive considering who we beat. I expect us to get embarrassed again when we play the Ravens and Jets. The fact of the matter is that he's had 5 years and hasn't been able to put a physical team together yet except when he's playing the weak sisters.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

I see the pink soap is back.

There are only two types of coaches, ones that have been fired or those who are about to be.

 

[infantrycak]

The record isn't all that impressive considering who we beat. I expect us to get embarrassed again when we play the Ravens and Jets. The fact of the matter is that he's had 5 years and hasn't been able to put a physical team together yet except when he's playing the weak sisters.

Really? So Indy and the Redskins are weak sisters?

 

[Lucky]

Really? So Indy and the Redskins are weak sisters?

Do we really know how good the Colts are this season? Those two games seem like ancient history after the last 2 home debacles. With a 3-2 record, it's absurd to consider firing Kubiak in season. But, is it too soon to question whether Kubiak and his coaching style will ever lead this team to the playoffs and a championship? I don't think so.

 

[infantrycak]

Do we really know how good the Colts are this season? Those two games seem like ancient history after the last 2 home debacles. With a 3-2 record, it's absurd to consider firing Kubiak in season. But, is it too soon to question whether Kubiak and his coaching style will ever lead this team to the playoffs and a championship? I don't think so.

I get questioning Kubiak which is why I said nothing about him. But I hate when people get all silly and make whack assertions to support their arguments. The Colts have had 12 or more wins the last 7 years straight and have been in the playoffs 10 of the last 11 years. I think the idea they are suddenly a "weak sister" is absurd especially as an assertion of a fan from a team who just beat them for the 2nd time ever. Washington doesn't look like a behemoth but is leading the division and doesn't look like a weak sister either.

 

[Texan_Bill]

Not to mention that Oakland is better than people will admit.


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Pull out the pink soap, pull out the pink soap!!!

 

[houstonspartan]

Yeah, I'm sure you love Kubiak a whole lot, just enough not to ask for him to be fired after 4 games. You gave him 5, good for you, lol...

Firing coaches mid-season works in baseball and sometimes basketball because the seasons last so long. In the NFL, there's really no point in removing a head coach mid-season because there won't be enough time for him to change anything significantly enough to turn the team around.




The team is 3-2, so how about waiting until they have a losing record before saying the Texans can't win with Kubiak?

Do a search for all of my posts and tell me where, and when, I said Kubiak should be fired in the middle of the season.

Firing a coach in the middle of the season is a terrible idea, and rarely works. I have always argued that we should not have extended him. And, I am currently arguing that IF - repeat IF - we continue down the same consistent line of bullshit, he should be fired AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

IF - repeat IF - he turns this team around and gets us to the playoffs, then, I will have been wrong about him, and will admit it.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

 

[Ckw]

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

Dude, did someone hack your account or something?

The change in your posts is nothing short of miraculous. Is this still "Doug from the Woodlands?"

 

[GP]

No football in 2011 anyways, so I say let Kubiak stay through 2011. LOL.

I still think Gary Kubiak has this idea that he can build an offense and stock it with the right players (which he has, to some degree) and that it will beat any team's defense because of the superiority of the system he employs.

He just has an Ostrich mentality, the habit of sticking his head into a hole in the ground instead of doing something that will actually HELP everyone around him.

I don't think he recovers from this. I think the team, overall, has lost confidence in him as the head coach. I don't think they will fight for him like they normally did at the end of each previous season.

And if this "team" is taking games off and essentially choosing when to excel and when to sandbag it, then shame on them all. And shame on Gurry Kubiak for not doing something about it.

Man, it is such a kick in the nuts to be a fan of an NFL team who is either horrible and cannot win or is a faker and breaks your heart consistently when it looks like they can do something meaningful (but bombs out on you instead).

 

[steelbtexan]

Dude, did someone hack your account or something?

The change in your posts is nothing short of miraculous. Is this still "Doug from the Woodlands?"

This

I dont think he should be fired this season.

But I think we can all agree he shouldn't be signed to an extention either.

 

[DexmanC]

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.
Beat the Colts. Good win

Beat the Redskins. Required multiple miracles on both sides of the ball & special teams.

Got beat by the Cowboys. They were and are now WINLESS against everybody BUT The Texans

Beat the Raiders. Let them back into the game, and almost got beat.

Got embarrassed by the Giants. Coughlin and his coaching staff made
Kubiak and HIS team look like amateurs in ALL PHASES.

They've only gotten ONE 60-minute win against a good team, and I don't
remember the last time they beat a good team within the first
12 game window of ANY season under Kubiak. The Texans have
not given the fans any evidence they'll be able to survive the gauntlet
of games in November.

After November, we pretty much know who's going to the playoffs. All that's
left to be determined will be the seeding. The Texans bust be at least
7-5 by the end of November, to be in the running.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.

This is true for many NFL teams, and not just the Texans.

 

[DexmanC]

This is true for many NFL teams, and not just the Texans.

They still got me askin' "Who dey beat?"

Starting this week, they'll have to beat a LOT of reputable teams
to go to the playoffs. They must finish the season no worse
than 7-4 over the next eleven games.

 

[thunderkyss]

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.

What do you think about the 3-2 Greenbay Packers?
Wins: Philly, Buffalo, Detroit
Losses: Chicago, Washington

What do you think about the 3-2 Indianapolis Colts?
Wins: Giants, Broncos, Chiefs
Losses: Texans, Jaguars

Or the 3-2 New Orleans Saints
Wins: Minnesota, 49ers, Carolina
Losses: Atlanta, Arizona

What do you think about the 2-3 San Diego Chargers
Wins: Jacksonville, Arizona
Losses: Chiefs, Seattle, Oakland

 

[DexmanC]

What do you think about the 3-2 Greenbay Packers?
Wins: Philly, Buffalo, Detroit
Losses: Chicago, Washington

What do you think about the 3-2 Indianapolis Colts?
Wins: Giants, Broncos, Chiefs
Losses: Texans, Jaguars

Or the 3-2 New Orleans Saints
Wins: Minnesota, 49ers, Carolina
Losses: Atlanta, Arizona

What do you think about the 2-3 San Diego Chargers
Wins: Jacksonville, Arizona
Losses: Chiefs, Seattle, Oakland

I'm talking about the Texans, and Kubiak.
Each one of the head coaches of the teams you've
mentioned have been to postseason within the last
five years. Kubiak has not, so his margin for error
is NIL.

 

[Texan_Bill]

:wadepalm: Some of you people!!!


Including, Vista, and Brakos!!

 

[thunderkyss]

I'm talking about the Texans, and Kubiak.
Each one of the head coaches of the teams you've
mentioned have been to postseason within the last
five years. Kubiak has not, so his margin for error
is NIL.

So if Kubiak is doing as well as they are, he must be on the right track...

Cool.

 

[DexmanC]

So if Kubiak is doing as well as they are, he must be on the right track...

Cool.

We shouldn't have to use the word "if" when referencing Kubiak.
When the word "if" surfaces during a discussion about Kubiak, take
"if" as a sign Kubiak is not meetin expectations.

 

[JB]

We shouldn't have to use the word "if" when referencing Kubiak.
When the word "if" surfaces during a discussion about Kubiak, take
"if" as a sign Kubiak is not meetin expectations.

Ya know, you are starting ( or maybe have been for awhile) coming across as a perfectionist fan. If we went 19-0, you would probably be complaining about margin of victory, or upset that we now had the last pick in the draft.

And there is nothing wrong with that...


Have you ever been escited about this team? If so, then when was the turning point? When the Texans lost on 9/15/2002?

 

[DexmanC]

Ya know, you are starting ( or maybe have been for awhile) coming across as a perfectionist fan.

Not at all. I understand Kubiak has been given more rope than any
coach in recent history, and am analyzing his progress during his *bonus*
season. Looking at the schedule, I'm seeing the *tougher* games
backloaded onto the schedule, unlike what we had in 2009. 7-4
the rest of the way, considering you'll be playing your DIRECT competition
for the Division Championship and /or AFC Wildcard in TEN of the next ELEVEN
games, gets you a playoff spot. Tiebreakers look like they're gonna be a HUGE
factor in the seedings, and the Texans play dang-near all of the teams they
need tiebreakers on head-to-head.

I'm just looking for SOMETHING, that shows me the Texans will finally
achieve a winning record in the AFC, when it hasn't happened in five
seasons.

Perfectionist? No. However, I'm not looking at the losses as numbers
only. The way the Texans played, in both losses, is what is unacceptable.
When they come out woefully unprepared, unfocused, and out-schemed,
they'd better win the game. Piss-poor performances, is what I'm posting about.
If they're gonna lose, they'd better play some good football while
doing it.

 

[houstonspartan]

Ya know, you are starting ( or maybe have been for awhile) coming across as a perfectionist fan. If we went 19-0, you would probably be complaining about margin of victory, or upset that we now had the last pick in the draft.

And there is nothing wrong with that...


Have you ever been escited about this team? If so, then when was the turning point? When the Texans lost on 9/15/2002?

Trust me, Dex has given Kubiak a LOOOOONG leash. He used to be head of the Kubiak Cheerleading club. lol.

But, like a lot of fans, he reached his breaking point. No one coerced him into hating Kubiak. He saw things with his own eyes. It happens to all of us at some point.

 

[thunderkyss]

Not at all. I understand Kubiak has been given more rope than any
coach in recent history...



.

Do you believe there was anything unique about the team Kubiak took over?

Do you think he's done anything right?

 

[DexmanC]

Trust me, Dex has given Kubiak a LOOOOONG leash. He used to be head of the Kubiak Cheerleading club. lol.

But, like a lot of fans, he reached his breaking point. No one coerced him into hating Kubiak. He saw things with his own eyes. It happens to all of us at some point.

Damn, those were the good ol' days. LOL

 

[DexmanC]

Do you believe there was anything unique about the team Kubiak took over?

Do you think he's done anything right?

He's had a team good enough to go 8-8 for four consecutive years.
There have been coaches, who've taken 8-8 talent to the playoffs,
even won a Superbowl, even gone to the AFC Championship game,
within four years of having an 8-8 worthy team.

No excuses.

 

[thunderkyss]

He's had a team good enough to go 8-8 for four consecutive years.
There have been coaches, who've taken 8-8 talent to the playoffs,
even won a Superbowl, even gone to the AFC Championship game,
within four years of having an 8-8 worthy team.

No excuses.

Do you think Mike Singletary is a good coach?

 

[DexmanC]

Do you think Mike Singletary is a good coach?

If Singletary has four seasons (or less), with the same results he's had, he will and should
be fired. At the end of the day, results are what everyone's job comes
down to.

No excuses.

 

[thunderkyss]

If Singletary has four seasons (or less), with the same results he's had, he will and should
be fired. At the end of the day, results are what everyone's job comes
down to.

No excuses.

So..... is he a good coach or not? From what you know right now, do you think he's a good coach?

 

[thunderkyss]

He's had a team good enough to go 8-8 for four consecutive years.
There have been coaches, who've taken 8-8 talent to the playoffs,
even won a Superbowl, even gone to the AFC Championship game,
within four years of having an 8-8 worthy team.

No excuses.

Let's go back to this.

Anyone in the AFC South get to the play-offs with an 8-8 record?

Any of those 8-8 teams beat the Colts? Any of them had to beat the Colts twice in the same year?

It's not about excuses, it's about reality.

 

[DexmanC]

So..... is he a good coach or not? From what you know right now, do you think he's a good coach?

What do you mean when YOU say "good coach?"

 

[DexmanC]

Let's go back to this.

Anyone in the AFC South get to the play-offs with an 8-8 record?

Any of those 8-8 teams beat the Colts? Any of them had to beat the Colts twice in the same year?

It's not about excuses, it's about reality.

The reality is, Kubiak has got to get it (going to the playoffs) done.
His job is gonna come down to results, eventually, and it should be THIS
season.

 

[thunderkyss]

What do you mean when YOU say "good coach?"

When you think of a "good" head coach, does Singletary make your list?

The reality is, Kubiak has got to get it (going to the playoffs) done.
His job is gonna come down to results, eventually, and it should be THIS
season.

I don't disagree with this post in anyway. IMO, this is it for Kubiak. It sucks he's got to get to the play-offs with this schedule, but he built this team, which we all think is good enough to do it. So, we'll see.

I believe in the 4 year term. But I believe some coaches will get it done in 3 years, some coaches may need 5. I don't see anything wrong with that. I believe the situation they inherited & the way they decided to build the team will be a factor in how long it will take. To take this team from what he had, to Super Bowl contender, considering he wasn't ready to be a head coach when he took the job, 5 years is acceptable.

If Kubiak doesn't get this team to the play-offs, with this schedule, believe me, you won't hear any excuses from me. But to act as though he has already failed, when we are 3-2 & won our only division game so far, against our toughest division opponent at that.... is a little premature.

Lastly, results... I also believe there are some teams that W-L records are the last thing you need to be looking at when determining results. On a team that has never won (the Houston Texans) there focus can't be on winning & losing. Talent level has to get to a certain level, and the level of play has to get to a certain level before W-L becomes the primary focus. To me, 2009 is the only season that the W-L tells you anything about this team. The Detroit Lions shouldn't be worried about W-L, the St Louis Rams shouldn't be worried about W-L, the SF 49ers & the Oakland Raiders don't need to be worried about W-L. They need to be focused on acquiring talent & learning to play football at the highest level. Other wise, you're going to end up with 10+ years of bad football.

Kubiak chose to build primarily through the draft, & young Free Agents. That already sets you up for a long transition. You don't have to agree with how Kubiak decided to build. Just acknowledge it. To judge him against coaches who went heavy with FAs is disingenuous.

I believe this team is a Super Bowl contender (to me that means they should be able to get to the play-offs and do well). We'll see if Kubiak where Kubiak stands as a head coach.

 

[DexmanC]

When you think of a "good" head coach, does Singletary make your list?

In order to avoid confusion, I need to know what you mean
when you say "good coach." I'll answer your question, when
I understand your definition of "good coach."

 

[Blake]

No playoffs this year? Kubiak should be gone. It will be someone elses turn to whip this group into a actual playoff contender.

If Kubiak gets this team to makes the playoffs then he can play out another year of his contract.

 

[DexmanC]

I believe in the 4 year term. But I believe some coaches will get it done in 3 years, some coaches may need 5. I don't see anything wrong with that. I believe the situation they inherited & the way they decided to build the team will be a factor in how long it will take. To take this team from what he had, to Super Bowl contender, considering he wasn't ready to be a head coach when he took the job, 5 years is acceptable.

If Kubiak doesn't get this team to the play-offs, with this schedule, believe me, you won't hear any excuses from me. But to act as though he has already failed, when we are 3-2 & won our only division game so far, against our toughest division opponent at that.... is a little premature.

Lastly, results... I also believe there are some teams that W-L records are the last thing you need to be looking at when determining results. On a team that has never won (the Houston Texans) there focus can't be on winning & losing. Talent level has to get to a certain level, and the level of play has to get to a certain level before W-L becomes the primary focus. To me, 2009 is the only season that the W-L tells you anything about this team. The Detroit Lions shouldn't be worried about W-L, the St Louis Rams shouldn't be worried about W-L, the SF 49ers & the Oakland Raiders don't need to be worried about W-L. They need to be focused on acquiring talent & learning to play football at the highest level. Other wise, you're going to end up with 10+ years of bad football.

Kubiak chose to build primarily through the draft, & young Free Agents. That already sets you up for a long transition. You don't have to agree with how Kubiak decided to build. Just acknowledge it. To judge him against coaches who went heavy with FAs is disingenuous.

I believe this team is a Super Bowl contender (to me that means they should be able to get to the play-offs and do well). We'll see if Kubiak where Kubiak stands as a head coach.

Let's not pretend Kubiak struck gold in the draft every year. So far,
we can only say that about the '06 draft. He took Amobi Okoye over
Patrick Willis in the '07 draft. That decision, in my opinion, lost
his standing of "draft guru." If you're going to "build through the draft,"
you'd BETTER hit in EVERY SINGLE ONE of them.

The current Lions staff has had two drafts, and have gotten first round studs in both.
Matthew Stafford and Ndamukong Suh. Two drafts, two bell cows. The Texans
can not say the same.

 

[thunderkyss]

In order to avoid confusion, I need to know what you mean
when you say "good coach." I'll answer your question, when
I understand your definition of "good coach."

I'll tell you that I think Singletary is a good head coach.

 

[thunderkyss]

Let's not pretend Kubiak struck gold in the draft every year. So far,
we can only say that about the '06 draft. He took Amobi Okoye over
Patrick Willis in the '07 draft. That decision, in my opinion, lost
his standing of "draft guru." If you're going to "build through the draft,"
you'd BETTER hit in EVERY SINGLE ONE of them.

The current Lions staff has had two drafts, and have gotten first round studs in both.
Matthew Stafford and Ndamukong Suh. Two drafts, two bell cows. The Texans
can not say the same.

Do you or do you not think this team has the talent & the ability to get to the Super Bowl this year?

Doesn't matter on how many he "hit" on. If you think we're that good, we're that good.

If you don't think we're that good, what difference does it make if we get to the play-offs. That's not the goal. If we're going to the play-offs, & lose in the Wild-Card, that tells me we didn't belong to begin with, & the coach didn't do his job.

To me, that's setting your expectations low, that's a loser's mentality.

& I'll say it now. If we go to the play-offs, whether we win the division, or the wildcard & lose... I won't be on the Kubiak bandwagon.

If we go into Reliant at 10-5 & lose to the Jaguars, I don't care if it's the best game ever played & we lose by one point on a 72 yard field goal to end up 10-6, I won't be on the Kubiak band wagon.

(Let's see how long it takes Stafford & Sue to get to the play-offs)

 

[thunderkyss]

The current Lions staff has had two drafts, and have gotten first round studs in both.
Matthew Stafford and Ndamukong Suh. Two drafts, two bell cows. The Texans
can not say the same.

Let's not forget that by game 5 of the 2007 season, Okoye looked pretty good as well.

Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels.... that's three bell-cow studs & that's only one draft. I think the average over 2 years is still better than what Detroit has done.

drop the hateraid.......

 

[GP]

I'll tell you that I think Singletary is a good head coach.

You're delusional, in my opinion (of course).

I think you admire the man, but then again you seem to admire Kubiak too.

See, this is a big problem for a lot of people: They fall in love with the person, and so they marginalize the actual production on the field. It's what got David Carr a pass for so long. In fact, I'll bet Carr is a 49er because Singletary thinks he's a great, honorable role model...forget what he's done in the past (on the field), Carr is a Christian and Singletary wants more guys like him.

It's the NFL. You either got it, or you don't. And outside of the initial win vs. the Colts this season, this team has looked disorganized and can't adjust to the other team.

Arian Foster is the reason we started off 1-0. Coupled with a Colts defense that had major injuries AND a lack of preparation for our running game.

Andre Johnson is the reason we got to 2-0. His catch on 4th down? Miracle.

It goes downhill after game 2. We're seeing that outside of some fluke advantageous situations (Colts defense and Andre's catch) our beloved Texans are mere pretenders and not contenders.

My thoughts are now consumed with whether we will be picking in the middle of the first round or the early part of the first round. And also if there will be NFL in 2011 at all.

 

[thunderkyss]

You're delusional, in my opinion (of course).

I think you admire the man, but then again you seem to admire Kubiak too.

No, that's not it.

It's the NFL. You either got it, or you don't. And outside of the initial win vs. the Colts this season, this team has looked disorganized and can't adjust to the other team.

Yet we got the W....

It goes downhill after game 2. We're seeing that outside of some fluke advantageous situations (Colts defense and Andre's catch) our beloved Texans are mere pretenders and not contenders.

Which team do you think is perfect??

The biggest knock on this team, IMO, has been an inability to handle adversity in a game. True, that diversity shouldn't have been in some of those games... but it was there, & we've done better than not overall.

 

[Texan_Bill]

*Thanks God above that some members of this board or just that, and not in the Texans organization*

Idiots!!!