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Texans Wide Receivers
- Thread starter Toro Bravo
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Thank you. It's been a minute since I watched a Texans "highlight" that was truly a "highlight'"
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Hey don’t say that out loud. Might offend those pro Mills fans . Lol
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I don't think the Texans will be in a position to pick TE- Bowers (Georgia), but I wouldn't hesitate to re-sign Schultz and sign TE- Hunter Henry (NE) as an UFA in the off-season. They could pick up a blocking TE late in the draft to work with these two.
It seems like the open receiver is thriving in this offense, whether it be Collins, Dell, Woods. Heck, Stroud is even hitting TEs. I'm glad that Collins is finally living up to his potential. Having an accurate QB certainly helps a ton in that area.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Man I hate to use this comp because it's heretical. But Nico reminds me a lot of Andre.
Both are big, tall, strong men who are smooth long striders and deceptively fast, they can shake off defenders and get YAC, good route runners, generally reliable hands, and can outmuscle smaller dudes for a 50/50 ball when necessary. If that doesn't remind you of AJ I don't know what to say.
No I'm not saying Nico is Andre...yet! A couple of very good games does not make a career. But these traits I am seeing just make me think AJ.
The big thing with Nico is health. IF (big if) Nico can stay healthy, the sky is the limit. This offense feels like the perfect glove on a hand for Nico. It's funny to me how Pep couldn't scheme this guy open. He looked like a lazy route runner and all his catches were contested. All the sudden, he's open constantly and looks like a great route runner. Whoever says coaching isn't important - sit in the corner with a dunce cap on!
Credit to Bobby and the coaches for seeing that talent and finding ways to use it. And...with CJ he's got a guy that is pinpoint accurate and is putting Nico in prime position for YAC's for miles. CJ is going to end up making Nico a very wealthy man when they sign him to an extension.
Both are big, tall, strong men who are smooth long striders and deceptively fast, they can shake off defenders and get YAC, good route runners, generally reliable hands, and can outmuscle smaller dudes for a 50/50 ball when necessary. If that doesn't remind you of AJ I don't know what to say.
No I'm not saying Nico is Andre...yet! A couple of very good games does not make a career. But these traits I am seeing just make me think AJ.
The big thing with Nico is health. IF (big if) Nico can stay healthy, the sky is the limit. This offense feels like the perfect glove on a hand for Nico. It's funny to me how Pep couldn't scheme this guy open. He looked like a lazy route runner and all his catches were contested. All the sudden, he's open constantly and looks like a great route runner. Whoever says coaching isn't important - sit in the corner with a dunce cap on!
Credit to Bobby and the coaches for seeing that talent and finding ways to use it. And...with CJ he's got a guy that is pinpoint accurate and is putting Nico in prime position for YAC's for miles. CJ is going to end up making Nico a very wealthy man when they sign him to an extension.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
It's possible Nico was always this good, he just didn't have anybody to throw to him. When you got an accurate QB, most receivers will look good. Especially when the receiver has a QB that can hit them in stride on a hard run. Nico didn't even slow down on his 2nd TD, CJ just floated it perfectly to him.
Health has always been the biggest question for Collins to answer IMHO.
Good thing about this offense is if they take away Collins, then Dell or Woods will get the ball. Imagine if they added a guy like Nabers to this crew. Mitchell from Texas is another guy that has a very similar skillet that Collins has.
Late 2nd/ Early 3rd grade on Mitchell for me.
Flyingfish
Waterboy
In the discussion of QB's, WR's, etc the same things keeps coming to mind... coaching and play calling. The Texans have had a severe lack of coaching for some time, and that deficiency was made even worse by crappy game plans. Hard to blame any player for not achieving their full potential under the BOB, Culley or Lovie Smith regimes. Many were probably not the players the Texans needed (piss poor drafting), but they weren't used or developed properly either.
Currently, it makes watching so much more enjoyable not to see pass attempts that are always short of the sticks, or for just 5 yards. So glad to not see every running play require that the running back put his helmet in a lineman's butt and try to move forward. I watch a game now, even the losses, and I feel like there is a plan, not a panic.
Currently, it makes watching so much more enjoyable not to see pass attempts that are always short of the sticks, or for just 5 yards. So glad to not see every running play require that the running back put his helmet in a lineman's butt and try to move forward. I watch a game now, even the losses, and I feel like there is a plan, not a panic.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
That one and the one to Tank last week were two of the prettiest throws I've seen in a while.
CJ also doesn't put his WRs in bad positions for big hits very often, so that should help Nico stay healthy enough to play week in and week out.
Hope you are right.
I'm more confident in Stroud's accuracy than Nico's ability to stay healthy. The Texans have been a passing interest for me the last three years, so I'm not even sure what Collin's injury history is. Soft tissue? Concussions? I dunno.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Maybe I romanticizing things, but I feel like in the last couple of years when he was on the field, it was sideline outs and jump balls for Nico. Long striders need space to get up to speed. AJ and Foster were both long striders too.
Soft tissue and a broken collar bone IRRC.
No thanks. He'd just ***** about not getting enough targets and be a $3M cancer. And who would you take playing time away from?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Noah Brown designated to return from IR. Could be just in time with Dell out. Not the same weapon as Dell but could figure into the rotation.
Though i’d like to see the youngsters Metchie and Hutchinson get more opportunities, the staff may lean to the veteran that knows where he’s supposed to be each play.
Though i’d like to see the youngsters Metchie and Hutchinson get more opportunities, the staff may lean to the veteran that knows where he’s supposed to be each play.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Don’t know if what dude heard is accurate or not.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
To quote the Spartans: IF.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I am so impressed with what Nico has done this season. He's only 14 yards from equaling last season's yardage total and equaled his career TDs. Collins is playing at a Pro Bowl level (even if it really no longer exists).
But Dre was on a different level as an athlete. His muscles had muscles. The power. The speed. He could get so open even David Carr could get the ball to him 100 times in a season. Easily one of the top 5 athletes I've seen at WR in the NFL (Moss, Calvin Johnson, James Lofton, Tyreek Hill).
The guy I might compare Nico's ceiling to is the ex Jags WR Jimmy Smith. Smith had a slow start to his career in Dallas, but blossomed in JAX as a high volume target that could go across the middle and make plays downfield.
A solid week from Collins here with 6 targets 4 catches for 80 yards.
For the season among Wide Receivers
7th in total yards with 547 (on pace for 1,550 for the season)
Tied for 10th in TD's with 3
3rd in yards per catch at 18.9
4th in Yards Per Route Run
He also only has 1 drop on 42 targets
I do wonder about how viable he is as a #1 for a team that is looking to contend at a high level soon but I'm not sure how founded that fear is. He's big, fast, physical, has good YAC ability, and has good hands. The only real elements that I see missing from his game is he isn't really a guy who terrifies defenses deep and he's not really a jump ball guy. But I think he's found his lane and I'm interested to see if he can keep this up.
For the season among Wide Receivers
7th in total yards with 547 (on pace for 1,550 for the season)
Tied for 10th in TD's with 3
3rd in yards per catch at 18.9
4th in Yards Per Route Run
He also only has 1 drop on 42 targets
I do wonder about how viable he is as a #1 for a team that is looking to contend at a high level soon but I'm not sure how founded that fear is. He's big, fast, physical, has good YAC ability, and has good hands. The only real elements that I see missing from his game is he isn't really a guy who terrifies defenses deep and he's not really a jump ball guy. But I think he's found his lane and I'm interested to see if he can keep this up.
Add a guy like one of the top 4 WR's in the 2024 draft and the WR corps will be very dangerous. On a Miami/Buffalo/San Fran type level.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Collins has build-up speed to his 4.4-40. He's not sudden. At the moment, the OL isn't strong enough to give Collins time to hit his top speed, but I think we could see some of this happening once a healthy OL can stay on the field for 3 consecutive games. It will also help when Dell returns and Metchie gains his health, not to mention his game legs.
Imagine if they had drafted Pickens over Metchie like some wanted them to do at that time in the draft.
He hasn't established himself as a #1 WR yet. He's making a good case for it, but imo, I'm still looking for WR1 in the next draft.
Nothing wrong with having two #1 receivers on a team.
Definitely agree. Unfortunately the Browns are just a good team and I don’t think we’re gonna be picking too high this draft so guys like Keon Coleman will likely be out of reach.
Don't sleep on Caserio. You might not like how he does it, but if he wants Keon Coleman, he's likely to go up & get Keon Coleman.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Yep, like it or not there is no draft slot off the table if riverboat Nick sees a prospect he likes.
Texansballer74
The Marine
With 8 games being played here’s what our receiver core done so far.Nico Collins: 631 yards and 4 Touchdowns
Tank Dell: 454 yards and 4 touchdowns
Dalton Schlutz: 350 yards and 4 touchdowns
N. Brown: 267 yards and 1 touchdown
R. Woods: 227 yards and 1 touchdown
Texansballer74
The Marine
Nico Collins: 11 games, 59 receptions 991 yards and 6 touchdowns. That’s puts him at 10th in the league.
He's going to get more targets now that Dell is out.
I don't know. If I were the other team I'd bracket Mr "9 catches 191 yards."
Noah Brown, Robert Woods, Schultz/Jordan need to make sure that doesn't happen.
This got me curious so here is a list of the leading receiver in each game.
Ravens - N. Collins 6-80
Colts - N. Collins 7-140 1 TD
Jaguars - T. Dell 5-145 1 TD
Steelers - N. Collins 7-168 2 TDs
Falcons - D. Schultz 7-65 1 TD
Saints - N. Collins 4-80
Panthers - N. Brown 3-57
Buccaneers - N. Brown 6-153 1 TD
Bengals - N. Brown 7-172
Cardinals - T. Dell 8-149 1 TD
Jaguars - N. Collins 7-104 1 TD
Broncos - N. Collins 9-191 1 TD
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
It kind of makes me wonder if all the predraft talk about Stroud looking better than he was because of his great receivers was actually backwards. Maybe Stroud made his college receivers look better just like he is making the Texans receivers look better than they have ever been.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Doesn't seem to matter as CJ finds a guy.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I'd wager all the receivers better be on high alert if they are on the field.
His favorite receiver is the open receiver.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Look at the loss at Carolina. Putrid. Look at every line after that! Wow
And Schultz only on there once. Which is fine because you don’t want your TE being the leading receiver unless your name is Kelce, Gronk, etc.
I wish they’d get the TE more involved tho.
I think this WR group is better than most people (not our board) think.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Dang if Tank doesn’t get injured, we would have had two receivers over 1000 yards. Freaking injury bug!
badboy
Hall of Fame
If healthy for 17 games what do you think Noah Brown would have accomplished?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Probably another 1000 yards receiver