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The thing is, it's not what you think or what @Mr teX thinks. It's what the Texans coaches think.
Oh I know that. But you and saw how terrible DP was and you know they saw it too. They’re only keeping DP because he’s equivalent to PJ Tucker ( ex Rockets), just younger. He’s a just a hard worker out there with no special skill set.
 
Oh I know that. But you and saw how terrible DP was and you know they saw it too. They’re only keeping DP because he’s equivalent to PJ Tucker ( ex Rockets), just younger. He’s a just a hard worker out there with no special skill set.
lol, no.
 
Ability to score a KR td and 50+ yard rushing td is a very particular set of skills.
Everybody on here were complaining about dude just can’t see the holes . Complained about how terrible he looked in preseason and all of last season. Now there’s a change of heart. Like I said he’s not a good back period.
 
Are u serious? It’s pretty clear the coaching staff didn’t see Akers as the 2nd best back behind Mixon at any point like the fans did. This trade all but confirms what I thought all along about him. His style of running isn’t a fit for the scheme. Akers doesn’t run hard enough. And to back that up, he does have a rep as a fumbler. Glad they got something for him and got him outta here.
Were not most of us saying the same thing about Pierce not being the running back for this offense?
 
Were not most of us saying the same thing about Pierce not being the running back for this offense?
I wasn’t. I didn’t like what I was seeing from Pierce last year, but he himself admitted that he was struggling a little bit to pick up the scheme all last year. This year I don’t think we got enough of a sample size to see how he’d grown and learned. And he didn’t get enough snaps in the regular season before he got hurt.

Some fans just saw Akers lighting it up in the preseason against practice squad guys & fell in love with him as the “clear” #2 behind Mixon; Well, Luckily for me I didn’t watch much of the preseason beyond the 1st series’ with the 1’s 😏. So my 1st instance of seeing him in a Texans uniform was in the Minny game and the Jax game..& I didn’t like what I saw overall.

They tried featuring Akers in the Minny game and the Jax game by giving him the most carries of the RB’s. By the Buffalo game that ratio had flipped in favor of Dare. And of course we know what happened in the Pats game. All the other backs do something else on ST. Akers did nothing else except play RB…& he wasn’t even that great at that. Like I said, this trade says a lot about how the coaching staff felt about him all along.
 
Akers as the 2nd best back behind Mixon at any point like the fans did. This trade all but confirms what I thought all along about him. His style of running isn’t a fit for the scheme.
Isn't that what "we've" been saying about Pierce?
 
Everybody on here were complaining about dude just can’t see the holes . Complained about how terrible he looked in preseason and all of last season. Now there’s a change of heart. Like I said he’s not a good back period.
I hear you bro but we have to acknowledge this isn’t a top 10 offensive line unit. From run blocking to pass blocking, the things Cj and Joe Mixon are doing with this line is really special. The offensive ranking #’s makes them look good. I would rank them around 17-22nd spot.

I never spoke bad about Pierce because I’ve seen where holes don’t open up. Even, on a couple of Joe Mixon runs last game, he had to bounce to the outside on an inside run play a couple times because the hole just wasn’t there.
 
Everybody on here were complaining about dude just can’t see the holes . Complained about how terrible he looked in preseason and all of last season. Now there’s a change of heart. Like I said he’s not a good back period.
My only complaint was that he was getting tackled too easy. Seeing the hole, not seeing the hole didn't really bother me, he's only been learning the system since he got in the league behind an OL trying to learn the system.

But if he can break tackles like he did as a rookie he should be able to earn time in real games to learn the system. If he's getting dropped for negative yards, he can't learn fast enough.
 
My only complaint was that he was getting tackled too easy. Seeing the hole, not seeing the hole didn't really bother me, he's only been learning the system since he got in the league behind an OL trying to learn the system.

But if he can break tackles like he did as a rookie he should be able to earn time in real games to learn the system. If he's getting dropped for negative yards, he can't learn fast enough.
This is the thing that gets lost when discussing him. This is only his 3rd year and he’s still a young player. I remember people saying a lot of the same things about Derrick Henry his 1st couple of years in the league..which weren’t great for a guy picked where he was. He came on his 3rd year.
 
Still not convinced about Pierce. One big run doesn't immediately change my mind.
So you've said.

I don't think anyone has said he's going to be a hall of famer much less a pro bowler... or even a starter.

DeMeco basically said you've got playmaker & you've got JAGs, he thinks Damien Pierce is a playmaker. We're saying, "show us"
 
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Really enjoyed this video. Loved seeing Diggs and Stover make impactful blocks in the running game AND seeing Pierce breaking tackles!

If you want to have a top tier running game the WRs/TEs have to get their hands dirty.

And between Mixon/Pierce, the Texans have two RBs that defenses are going to hate tackling in the 4th quarter as we saw last week. We’ll need to lean on them this week against a tough Green Bay team.
 
Oh I know that. But you and saw how terrible DP was and you know they saw it too. They’re only keeping DP because he’s equivalent to PJ Tucker ( ex Rockets), just younger. He’s a just a hard worker out there with no special skill set.
I have to come to the defense of PJ Tucker, who has been a very good defender and a solid 3 point shooter over 12 NBA seasons. He's got skillz!
 
I have to come to the defense of PJ Tucker, who has been a very good defender and a solid 3 point shooter over 12 NBA seasons. He's got skillz!
I have to come to the defense of PJ Tucker, who has been a very good defender and a solid 3 point shooter over 12 NBA seasons. He's got skillz!
In the past 4-5 years PJ has been a liability on both ends of the court. No way he should’ve been a starter his last few seasons as a Rockets. But my point is the only reason why he continued to play was because of his hard work and that’s it. Coaches love player who put in the hard work. In practice they tend to stand out.

BTW : Every player who makes it to the big leagues have skill.
 
In the past 4-5 years PJ has been a liability on both ends of the court. No way he should’ve been a starter his last few seasons as a Rockets. But my point is the only reason why he continued to play was because of his hard work and that’s it.
Well, I disagree. Tucker is 38, so he's no longer getting starter minutes, as he did in Houston. But if you need a guy to slow the roll of a scorer in the 4th quarter, PJ is still the guy. Hitting 37% from the 3 point line, to boot. If Pierce can have the impact Tucker has had over his career, the Texans will gladly take it.
 
Well, I disagree. Tucker is 38, so he's no longer getting starter minutes, as he did in Houston. But if you need a guy to slow the roll of a scorer in the 4th quarter, PJ is still the guy. Hitting 37% from the 3 point line, to boot. If Pierce can have the impact Tucker has had over his career, the Texans will gladly take it.
Not right now but when he was in Houston and his two stops after that he was starting and playing heavy minutes. And he wasn’t giving those teams anything. Many nights his stat line was zeroes.
 
Pierce is in the role he should be..the role he was in at Florida; which is a complimentary hammer in much the same way as Gus Edwards and Michael “the burner” Turner are/were used in Baltimore and San Diego respectively.

I could easily see Pierce giving us 600-700 yards of rushing to compliment Mixon’s 900-1000.
 
I don't have faith in any RB on the roster not named Joe Mixon. Pierce is a big play guy who consistently gets 2 ypc, if he doesn't bust one. Dare O is a good blocker and receiver but has no wiggle or explosion.
I believe (hope) that Nick has a plan in process for adding another RB. I would like to see Nick poach this guy off the Giants practice squad.
Donte Miller; Columbia University graduate
5'9", 200 lbs. 4.27 40 time.
28 reps on bench press @225 lbs.
High Character and upside. He can also return kicks.
He was screwed out of eligibility by the NCAA in 2022 & 2023
 
I don't have faith in any RB on the roster not named Joe Mixon. Pierce is a big play guy who consistently gets 2 ypc, if he doesn't bust one. Dare O is a good blocker and receiver but has no wiggle or explosion.
I believe (hope) that Nick has a plan in process for adding another RB. I would like to see Nick poach this guy off the Giants practice squad.
Donte Miller; Columbia University graduate
5'9", 200 lbs. 4.27 40 time.
28 reps on bench press @225 lbs.
High Character and upside. He can also return kicks.
He was screwed out of eligibility by the NCAA in 2022 & 2023
Good story, but I doubt it. He would need to be signed to the 53-man roster plus occupy that roster spot for a minimum of three weeks even if released early. Can't see that happening unless...nope not gonna say it.
 
I think we need to seriously talk about what running scheme we're using. That's not exclusively ZBS, one cut & go.
JT O’Sullivan is calling this ‘Wham’ in the QB school. Seems to be a complicated scheme to set up and coach, but seems to suit DP in particular to get an angle to break a big play.
 
JT O’Sullivan is calling this ‘Wham’ in the QB school. Seems to be a complicated scheme to set up and coach, but seems to suit DP in particular to get an angle to break a big play.
Seth Payne had mentioned it as well. Wham is a wrinkle you put in a few times a game. But not a foundational part of your gameplan. He said if you run it too much then a good NT will pick up on it and destroy the play.
 
Seth Payne had mentioned it as well. Wham is a wrinkle you put in a few times a game. But not a foundational part of your gameplan. He said if you run it too much then a good NT will pick up on it and destroy the play.
Yeah, so they sprinkled this in quite heavily vs the Patriots and you could already see the NT beginning to look straight at the TE who was coming for him as the game wore on.

It seems all of our big running plays came off this concept last week.

There are a number of variations on this theme with trap plays, looking up wham/crunch/g trap has given me a good learning curve. Seems like our OL and Pierce specifically really suit this scheme, whilst Mixon is good enough to make anything work. I could see different concepts coming and going through the season as they try to keep their opponents guessing.

The passing game worked really nicely last week, also, even the INT was a bit of a freak play, hopefully the trend of this offense clicking can continue against some of the better D’s were slated to face over the coming months.
 
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