Any idea what the swap price would be?
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Any idea what the swap price would be?
Troy Chapman
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Not yet.
Yeah, yet another player going into contract year offered up. Not sure it's the right thing to do to "buy" expensive players, but...
I was asking which ONE TPN was talking about
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I'd assume he was referring to Nix considering Crick and Pagan played fairly well
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Translation: asking price too rich for our tastes.
Brisco_County
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Hey guys, I'll be on a plane while the draft is on, so don't post any draft results until I have a chance to get home and watch it, ok?
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I was seeing Brockers as an interior player, maybe I was wrong about that. But I was seeing him being brought in because of a lack of faith in Nix's development.
kiwitexansfan
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Get the feeling Nix is trash at this point.
Won't be surprised to see a DT taken at some point
CloakNNNdagger
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Hmmm...............
Hmmm...............
CloakNNNdagger
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Amazing!..........Well Texans?
powda
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From another thread...
Same song and dance...every year. Teams maneuver around US. trades happen as do runs before we pick. And we settle. Maybe I'm paranoid and conjuring a conspiracy, speculation to be sure...but maybe...
...we have someone on our payroll making a check with other teams?
Same song and dance...every year. Teams maneuver around US. trades happen as do runs before we pick. And we settle. Maybe I'm paranoid and conjuring a conspiracy, speculation to be sure...but maybe...
...we have someone on our payroll making a check with other teams?
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What show?
I'm not seeing anything about this, and I think it would be big news... although seems highly improbable to me.
It was probably Lopez or Wright throwing out one of their hypotheticals to try to draw some calls
It was on the morning show on 610 with John Lopez and that other guy. It was a rumor though but I didn't believe it either. They reported it last Friday.
But there's no logic to it. Even if Kubiak wanted to do that, what possible pull/influence would he have with the Patriots or Belichick??
I thought the same thing.
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It's under "No Huddle" at the 4:15 mark here: http://houston.cbslocal.com/audio/in-the-loop-with-nick-and-lopez/
Sounded like a "straight-faced" joke to me that they never came back and cleaned up.
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Marshall
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Photo Chopped, Sliced, Diced and Blended.
I'm so glad you posted. I almost believed that one.
Marshall
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~There are some very gullible people on this site, but I didn't think you were one of them.~
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Maurice Jones Drew was in Texans camp yesterday repping a virtual reality device and he shared a story,
Playing vs. Texans MJD got tired of a trash talking Texan and called him out, both players making plans to meet after the game and settle it man to man.
The locker rooms are right next to each other, and MJD said he's a serious guy and meant what he said. MJD asked a team official to get the player out of the Texans locker room so he could kick his butt and shut him up, but DJ Swearinger never showed.
Playing vs. Texans MJD got tired of a trash talking Texan and called him out, both players making plans to meet after the game and settle it man to man.
The locker rooms are right next to each other, and MJD said he's a serious guy and meant what he said. MJD asked a team official to get the player out of the Texans locker room so he could kick his butt and shut him up, but DJ Swearinger never showed.
Jameis Winston looks forward to “fun matchup” with J.J. Watt
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-looks-forward-to-fun-matchup-with-j-j-watt/
Watching someone poke the bear is fun to watch from outside the habitat
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-looks-forward-to-fun-matchup-with-j-j-watt/
Watching someone poke the bear is fun to watch from outside the habitat
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Some Texans notes to chew on in the dead time...
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WR Deandre Hopkins is 2nd-youngest player in @NFL history w/ 2000 career receiving yds and was 7th-youngest w/ 1000 yds in a season
In 2014, RB Alfred Blue became first player in franchise history to record a rushing, receiving & return TD in the same season
The Texans offensive line has blocked for 37 100-yd rushing performances since the start of 2010, the most in the @NFL in that span
Texans were 1 of 4 teams with a 1,200-yd rusher & 1,200- yd receiver in 2014: RB @ArianFoster (1,246 yds) & WR @Nukdabomb (1,210 yds)
Texans ran the ball a league-high 51.9 percent of the time and posted an AFC-best eight individual 100-yd rushing performances in '14
Texans were the only team to have 2 different RBs rush for 150+ yards in a game in 2014: @ArianFoster (twice) & @AlfredBlue4 (once)
In 2014, Texans DE @JJWatt became first player in @NFL history with 10+ sacks, 5 fumble recoveries, 3 forced fumbles & at least one TD
Texans defense led @NFL w/ 34 takeaways in 2014 & caused a turnover in every game but one. 11 different players recorded the 20 team INTs
Since 2010, Texans RB Arian Foster is tied for the @NFL lead with 62 overall touchdowns and is 3rd in rushing yards with 6,052 in that span
Since 2011, Texans DE @JJWatt leads the @NFL with 11 opponent fumble recoveries. NT Vince Wilfork is tied for 7th with six in that span
The Texans defense allowed opponents to convert on only 33.9 percent of third down attempts in 2014. Ranked third best in the @NFL
Texans are the only team with two players who finished in the top-10 in YPC in 2014. Nate Washington, 7th/16.2 avg and Deandre Hopkins, 8th/15.9 avg
The Texans defense led the AFC and ranked third in the @NFL allowing only 293 yards per game over the last seven games of 2014
In 2014, RB Alfred Blue became first player in franchise history to record a rushing, receiving & return TD in the same season
The Texans offensive line has blocked for 37 100-yd rushing performances since the start of 2010, the most in the @NFL in that span
Texans were 1 of 4 teams with a 1,200-yd rusher & 1,200- yd receiver in 2014: RB @ArianFoster (1,246 yds) & WR @Nukdabomb (1,210 yds)
Texans ran the ball a league-high 51.9 percent of the time and posted an AFC-best eight individual 100-yd rushing performances in '14
Texans were the only team to have 2 different RBs rush for 150+ yards in a game in 2014: @ArianFoster (twice) & @AlfredBlue4 (once)
In 2014, Texans DE @JJWatt became first player in @NFL history with 10+ sacks, 5 fumble recoveries, 3 forced fumbles & at least one TD
Texans defense led @NFL w/ 34 takeaways in 2014 & caused a turnover in every game but one. 11 different players recorded the 20 team INTs
Since 2010, Texans RB Arian Foster is tied for the @NFL lead with 62 overall touchdowns and is 3rd in rushing yards with 6,052 in that span
Since 2011, Texans DE @JJWatt leads the @NFL with 11 opponent fumble recoveries. NT Vince Wilfork is tied for 7th with six in that span
The Texans defense allowed opponents to convert on only 33.9 percent of third down attempts in 2014. Ranked third best in the @NFL
Texans are the only team with two players who finished in the top-10 in YPC in 2014. Nate Washington, 7th/16.2 avg and Deandre Hopkins, 8th/15.9 avg
The Texans defense led the AFC and ranked third in the @NFL allowing only 293 yards per game over the last seven games of 2014
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SOTT: The Stakes are High for the Texans' Keshawn Martin
P.D. Starr|Owner/Editor
Every year is a new year and the NFL is known to be a "what have you done for me now" league. That can be applied Houston Texans wide receiver Keshawn Martin. The fourth-year wide receiver is entering his biggest season with the Texans, which also is his contract year.
This offseason saw the Texans add Cecil Shorts, Nate Washington, and two drafted rookies in Jaelen Strong and Keith Mumphery. For Martin, the clock is ticking for him to be the player the Texans envisioned him to be when he was drafted out of Michigan State in the fourth round of the 2012 NFL draft.
“I look at it as everyday competition,” explained Martin. “I mean you look at competition is always good for the team,” said Martin of the new-look receiving group. “When you have multiple guys competing for a spot, at least you know you have depth in the spot."
Martin is not letting the new competition keep him from what he needs to do on the field, especially when training camp arrives. “As for me,
I approach as trying to get better everyday and make as many plays as I can."
2014 was Martin's lowest offensive production in his career, with only six receptions for 78 yards and he was the team’s primary punt returner, which saw him only averaging 6.2 yards a return. Overall, it was a down year for Martin but he is not letting last year define him.
“Be more consistent,” Martin said of what he needs to do in 2015. “Just fine tune some things, pick out the little details to get better at. Once you get better at the little things, the rest come to you."
Martin’s best way to make the team is to show he can be the team’s primary returner for both punts and kickoffs. With the ability to play both inside and outside receiver, Martin knows what he has to do to make the team coming out of camp.
“I want to get on everything,” Martin said of returning kicks and punts. “Whatever the coaches want to do, whatever role I need to fill, that is what I want to do.”
With his contract year arriving, Martin knows his first goal is to make the team, but his long-term goal is to re-sign with the Texans after the season.
“I definitely would,” Martin said on returning to the Texans. “I love it out here. You grow to love it.”
This offseason saw the Texans add Cecil Shorts, Nate Washington, and two drafted rookies in Jaelen Strong and Keith Mumphery. For Martin, the clock is ticking for him to be the player the Texans envisioned him to be when he was drafted out of Michigan State in the fourth round of the 2012 NFL draft.
“I look at it as everyday competition,” explained Martin. “I mean you look at competition is always good for the team,” said Martin of the new-look receiving group. “When you have multiple guys competing for a spot, at least you know you have depth in the spot."
Martin is not letting the new competition keep him from what he needs to do on the field, especially when training camp arrives. “As for me,
I approach as trying to get better everyday and make as many plays as I can."
2014 was Martin's lowest offensive production in his career, with only six receptions for 78 yards and he was the team’s primary punt returner, which saw him only averaging 6.2 yards a return. Overall, it was a down year for Martin but he is not letting last year define him.
“Be more consistent,” Martin said of what he needs to do in 2015. “Just fine tune some things, pick out the little details to get better at. Once you get better at the little things, the rest come to you."
Martin’s best way to make the team is to show he can be the team’s primary returner for both punts and kickoffs. With the ability to play both inside and outside receiver, Martin knows what he has to do to make the team coming out of camp.
“I want to get on everything,” Martin said of returning kicks and punts. “Whatever the coaches want to do, whatever role I need to fill, that is what I want to do.”
With his contract year arriving, Martin knows his first goal is to make the team, but his long-term goal is to re-sign with the Texans after the season.
“I definitely would,” Martin said on returning to the Texans. “I love it out here. You grow to love it.”
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AFC South Q&A: Can the Texans challenge the division?
Tania Ganguli, ESPN Staff Writer
Tania Ganguli, ESPN Staff Writer
Today's question: Are the Texans better now than they were last year? Can they challenge for the division as they are?
Mike Wells, Indianapolis Colts: No. But I like Houston's defense. We're talking about a defense that already features J.J. Watt and has added veterans Vince Wilfork to anchor the middle of the defensive line and Rahim Moore at safety. The Texans re-signed cornerback Kareem Jackson and selected another cornerback, Kevin Johnson, in the first round of the draft. And you can't forget about defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 draft, coming back after missing most of last season with a knee injury. Houston's offense? That's a different story. Several people have told me you need at least a serviceable quarterback if you expect to be able to challenge for a playoff spot. The Texans continue to have a revolving door at that position. The decision to part ways with receiver Andre Johnson continues to be a head scratcher. Watt and Co. will be looking up at the Colts in the division for the third straight year.
Mike DiRocco, Jacksonville Jaguars: I like what the Texans did in the draft, especially in beefing up the defense by landing cornerback Kevin Johnson and linebacker Benardrick McKinney in the first two rounds. Receiver Jaelen Strong also should make an immediate impact and help offset the loss of Andre Johnson. The Texans should be as good on defense as they were in 2014 (fifth in scoring defense; 10th in rushing defense) and will be able to run the ball. However, I can't see them being significantly better because of their quarterback play. I know Bill O'Brien has a reputation as a QB guru but he's not working with much: Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett and Tom Savage. Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels also were offensive coordinators in New England with Tom Brady and they didn't exactly work any magic elsewhere. The Texans are better and they will push the Colts, but the division still belongs to Indianapolis. I can see the Texans making the playoffs behind their defense but QB play will hold them back.
Paul Kuharsky, Tennessee Titans: They're better. I think they are better for one main reason -- they're in Year 2 under a coach who did very well getting the most out of his roster last season. I love Bill O'Brien's work product and I'm not expecting a sophomore slump. I think he will continue to get production from a pretty good roster while surviving at quarterback. They can challenge, but only if things go very wrong for the Colts while they simultaneously go right for the Texans. Houston needs a QB, and I don't know what the long-term plan is for getting one. At some point they are probably going to have to give up a great deal to move up and draft their guy.
Mike Wells, Indianapolis Colts: No. But I like Houston's defense. We're talking about a defense that already features J.J. Watt and has added veterans Vince Wilfork to anchor the middle of the defensive line and Rahim Moore at safety. The Texans re-signed cornerback Kareem Jackson and selected another cornerback, Kevin Johnson, in the first round of the draft. And you can't forget about defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 draft, coming back after missing most of last season with a knee injury. Houston's offense? That's a different story. Several people have told me you need at least a serviceable quarterback if you expect to be able to challenge for a playoff spot. The Texans continue to have a revolving door at that position. The decision to part ways with receiver Andre Johnson continues to be a head scratcher. Watt and Co. will be looking up at the Colts in the division for the third straight year.
Mike DiRocco, Jacksonville Jaguars: I like what the Texans did in the draft, especially in beefing up the defense by landing cornerback Kevin Johnson and linebacker Benardrick McKinney in the first two rounds. Receiver Jaelen Strong also should make an immediate impact and help offset the loss of Andre Johnson. The Texans should be as good on defense as they were in 2014 (fifth in scoring defense; 10th in rushing defense) and will be able to run the ball. However, I can't see them being significantly better because of their quarterback play. I know Bill O'Brien has a reputation as a QB guru but he's not working with much: Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett and Tom Savage. Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels also were offensive coordinators in New England with Tom Brady and they didn't exactly work any magic elsewhere. The Texans are better and they will push the Colts, but the division still belongs to Indianapolis. I can see the Texans making the playoffs behind their defense but QB play will hold them back.
Paul Kuharsky, Tennessee Titans: They're better. I think they are better for one main reason -- they're in Year 2 under a coach who did very well getting the most out of his roster last season. I love Bill O'Brien's work product and I'm not expecting a sophomore slump. I think he will continue to get production from a pretty good roster while surviving at quarterback. They can challenge, but only if things go very wrong for the Colts while they simultaneously go right for the Texans. Houston needs a QB, and I don't know what the long-term plan is for getting one. At some point they are probably going to have to give up a great deal to move up and draft their guy.
One flat azz "no". And two semi-"yeses" with a "fix the QB position" qualifier.
...and just when I was starting to feel better
playa465
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I wouldn't put too much stock into an Indy beat writer who up until a couple of years ago was purely covering basketball.One flat azz "no". And two semi-"yeses" with a "fix the QB position" qualifier.
...and just when I was starting to feel better
infantrycak
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A "down" year? Don't you really have to have an actual "up" year for that to be true?
I understand having your image of what your receiving corps looks like, but you have to play the cards you have and I thought OB did a miserable job of that last season. 1st season he gets a pass on it. These are now his guys.
Marshall
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Mike Wells, Indianapolis Colts: Vaguely remembers the headlines. Nothing new here.
Mike DiRocco, Jacksonville Jaguars: Nice job. Read the entire articles. But still working off last years script on offense.
Paul Kuharsky, Tennessee Titans: OB believer, but also on last season's script on offense.
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Danieal Manning retires from football.
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In 2014, Texans RB Arian Foster became the 7th player in the last 20 years with 5+ TDs receiving & 5+ TDs rushing in the same season
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CloakNNNdagger
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Don't remember seeing this posted.
Thanks. But I think it's in the 2015 FA thread. They're waiting for you to give your medical opinion of him.
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Brian Hoyer will be the Texans starting quarterback Week 1. He's going to beat out Ryan Mallett this training camp and preseason. That's my Texans thought of the day. If I'm wrong then so be it. Prove it, Ryan Mallett. He deserves nothing handed to him.
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With the info I added in that thread (not an isolated ACL tear), have to be guarded re. his recovery.
What makes you think that? Does Hoyer deserve something handed to him? IMO, there's a higher upside with Mallett than Hoyer. I'm just going to sit back and see who OB picks. That pick will go a long way in determining OB's career with the Texans.
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Well, I'll say this much. It's going to seem a lot different with all of the young wideouts we have. There isn't an Andre Johnson to shelter these guys with a go-to target when times get tough. DeAndre Hopkins may be ready to take on a bigger role and become a leader on offense.
Jaelen Strong has a chance to blossom into a real star and All Pro caliber wide receiver in the NFL but only time will tell. I don't want to make any unfair comparisons but Jaelen Strong out of Arizona State reminds me of a young Dez Bryant coming out of Oklahoma State. Just in terms of his size, athleticism and agility. He has that Dez Bryant type of body. He's one of the young rookies I'm looking forward to seeing featured on Hard Knocks.
Hopefully one of those quarterbacks we have can find a quick connection and develop a rhythm together with the young wide receivers. My worst fear is we don't have a franchise quarterback on our roster. I'm really hoping that Ryan Mallett becomes one but his body seems so fragile. Tom Savage is a long shot to become anything special at the NFL level. He strikes me as a career backup at best. I guess I just sort of buy into Brian Hoyer's body of work. I know it isn't much but he played some good football for the Browns in a few games I watched. Unfortunately, just like Mallett, he had trouble staying healthy. But I believe that Hoyer gave the Browns a better chance to win than the circus of clowns they had in that awful environment.
Jaelen Strong has a chance to blossom into a real star and All Pro caliber wide receiver in the NFL but only time will tell. I don't want to make any unfair comparisons but Jaelen Strong out of Arizona State reminds me of a young Dez Bryant coming out of Oklahoma State. Just in terms of his size, athleticism and agility. He has that Dez Bryant type of body. He's one of the young rookies I'm looking forward to seeing featured on Hard Knocks.
Hopefully one of those quarterbacks we have can find a quick connection and develop a rhythm together with the young wide receivers. My worst fear is we don't have a franchise quarterback on our roster. I'm really hoping that Ryan Mallett becomes one but his body seems so fragile. Tom Savage is a long shot to become anything special at the NFL level. He strikes me as a career backup at best. I guess I just sort of buy into Brian Hoyer's body of work. I know it isn't much but he played some good football for the Browns in a few games I watched. Unfortunately, just like Mallett, he had trouble staying healthy. But I believe that Hoyer gave the Browns a better chance to win than the circus of clowns they had in that awful environment.
Bulls never said the job would be handed to Hoyer. He predicted Hoyer would beat out Mallett.
And that upside stuff.... man, I'm getting saturated with that term.
IMO, it's just wishing and hoping no matter who has that label tagged on him.
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Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer.
Nope. No matter how many times I say it, doesn't become an NFL QB.
Nope. No matter how many times I say it, doesn't become an NFL QB.
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The oldest player on the Houston Texans current 90-man roster is P Shane Lechler at 38. The youngest is rookie receiver Jaelen Strong at 21
The Houston Texans current 90-man roster has 62 players that are age 25 or younger & 4 players that are age 30 or older. Average age is 24.9
WR DeAndre Hopkins is only player in Houston Texans franchise history to have 50+ catches & average 15+ yards per catch for two seasons in a row
Houston Texans CB Kevin Johnson finished college w/ 35 pass break-ups (4th-highest total in @WakeFB school history) & was 2nd team All-ACC in '14
As a senior at River Hill HS in 2010, Houston Texans CB Kevin Johnson led the country by rushing for 1,220 yds and 15 TDs on 137 carries (9.0 avg)
The Houston Texans current 90-man roster has 62 players that are age 25 or younger & 4 players that are age 30 or older. Average age is 24.9
WR DeAndre Hopkins is only player in Houston Texans franchise history to have 50+ catches & average 15+ yards per catch for two seasons in a row
Houston Texans CB Kevin Johnson finished college w/ 35 pass break-ups (4th-highest total in @WakeFB school history) & was 2nd team All-ACC in '14
As a senior at River Hill HS in 2010, Houston Texans CB Kevin Johnson led the country by rushing for 1,220 yds and 15 TDs on 137 carries (9.0 avg)