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RGV82

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The 34 point loss to the Ravens does skew things but still when you have 8 one score wins in one season it is a matter for concern.

It shows up in the playoffs where you are consistently playing better teams. We played the Bills pretty much how we played all season. We won by 3 points & it took overtime to do it.
In 2019, it was actually 6 games were decided by 3 points or less, and another 4 games decided by a TD or less. So 10 total games were decided by a TD or less. I would be a lot more optimistic if we won games more convincingly.
 

steelbtexan

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When you break down the scoring last season we have:

8 Games decided by 6 points or less
3 Games decided by 7 points

Won 2 Games by more than 7 points
Lost 3 Games by more than 7 points

Most people say a 1 score game is basically a coin flip. When you look at it the Texans were basically a 500 team who got lucky at times & other times they were saved by Watson's off script heroics.

One bright spot is that for the first time under Billy O they did not have a losing record against above 500 teams. They were 3-3 in 2019.
Yep, it was all luck and DW4. Smdh

What this tells me is the Texans aren't as talented as some on here think they are.
 

mws

Waterboy
I understand 11 wins and losses but I was talking about just wins. "The 34 point loss to the Ravens does skew things but still when you have 8 one score wins in one season it is a matter for concern."
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
In 2019, it was actually 6 games were decided by 3 points or less, and another 4 games decided by a TD or less. So 10 total games were decided by a TD or less. I would be a lot more optimistic if we won games more convincingly.
Does this indicate a team which needs to be totally torn down and rebuilt? Or does it indicate a team which only needs a tweak or two to improve and step it up a notch?
 

mws

Waterboy
In 2019, it was actually 6 games were decided by 3 points or less, and another 4 games decided by a TD or less. So 10 total games were decided by a TD or less.
I count 11 one score games. 8 wins & 3 losses.

2019 One Score Wins

2019 Week 02 - Texans 13 - Jaguars 12 - Point Diff 1
2019 Week 03 - Texans 27 - Chargers 20 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 06 - Texans 31 - Chiefs 24 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 08 - Texans 27 - Raiders 24 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 12 - Texans 20 - Colts 17 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 13 - Texans 28 - Patriots 22 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 15 - Texans 24 - Titans 21 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 16 - Texans 23 - Buccaneers 20 - Point Diff 3

2019 One Score Losses

2019 Week 1 - Texans 28 - Saints 30 - Point Diff 2
2019 Week 4 - Texans 10 - Panthers 16 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 7 - Texans 23 - Colts 30 - Point Diff 7
 

RGV82

Random guy
I count 11 one score games. 8 wins & 3 losses.

2019 One Score Wins

2019 Week 02 - Texans 13 - Jaguars 12 - Point Diff 1
2019 Week 03 - Texans 27 - Chargers 20 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 06 - Texans 31 - Chiefs 24 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 08 - Texans 27 - Raiders 24 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 12 - Texans 20 - Colts 17 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 13 - Texans 28 - Patriots 22 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 15 - Texans 24 - Titans 21 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 16 - Texans 23 - Buccaneers 20 - Point Diff 3

2019 One Score Losses

2019 Week 1 - Texans 28 - Saints 30 - Point Diff 2
2019 Week 4 - Texans 10 - Panthers 16 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 7 - Texans 23 - Colts 30 - Point Diff 7
You’re right. My bad.
 

steelbtexan

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I count 11 one score games. 8 wins & 3 losses.

2019 One Score Wins

2019 Week 02 - Texans 13 - Jaguars 12 - Point Diff 1
2019 Week 03 - Texans 27 - Chargers 20 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 06 - Texans 31 - Chiefs 24 - Point Diff 7
2019 Week 08 - Texans 27 - Raiders 24 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 12 - Texans 20 - Colts 17 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 13 - Texans 28 - Patriots 22 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 15 - Texans 24 - Titans 21 - Point Diff 3
2019 Week 16 - Texans 23 - Buccaneers 20 - Point Diff 3

2019 One Score Losses

2019 Week 1 - Texans 28 - Saints 30 - Point Diff 2
2019 Week 4 - Texans 10 - Panthers 16 - Point Diff 6
2019 Week 7 - Texans 23 - Colts 30 - Point Diff 7
Most NFL games are 1 score games.
 

mws

Waterboy
I was going to do all the playoff teams but this post is long enough already. Here are the AFC Playoff teams & the Vikings who were also 10-6.

2019 AFC Division Winners

Patriots 12-4
420 - 225
+195 Points

Ravens 14-2
531 - 282
+249 Points

Chiefs 12-4
451 - 308
+142 Points

Texans 10-6
378 - 385
-7 points

2019 AFC Wild Cards

Bills 10-6
314 - 259
+55 points

Titans 9-7
402 - 331
+71 points
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Vikings 10-6
407 - 303
+104 points
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
In 2019 we averaged 5.9 points per quarter, and our opponents scored 6.0 points per quarter on us. This was one of our biggest problems last year, how we managed a 10-6 record, yet we were outscored by our opponents. Any team finishing 10-6 should be outscoring their opponents by at least a +30 on the year. We ended up 378-385 (-7).

And there were two games where they won by 20+ …. 26-3 in the second Jax game and 53-32 against Atlanta that inflate the points for. (Ravens 41-7 loss)

I guess that could point to a positive …. they were able to win a lot of close games ??

Regardless , that offense didn't play up to its talent by any stretch of the imagination.
Not a single first quarter TD for the entire season with your starting QB ? …. only Nine sustained drives for the entire season (10 plays or more resulting in a TD.) , that's 0.6 per game.
 

steelbtexan

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And there were two games where they won by 20+ …. 26-3 in the second Jax game and 53-32 against Atlanta that inflate the points for. (Ravens 41-7 loss)

I guess that could point to a positive …. they were able to win a lot of close games ??

Regardless , that offense didn't play up to its talent by any stretch of the imagination.
Not a single first quarter TD for the entire season with your starting QB ? …. only Nine sustained drives for the entire season (10 plays or more resulting in a TD.) , that's 0.6 per game.
I think you're onto something.

I also think it's funny that McCarron scored on his 1st drive. This shows the disconnect between HC/Starting QB. This has to change.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
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I think you're onto something.

I also think it's funny that McCarron scored on his 1st drive. This shows the disconnect between HC/Starting QB. This has to change.

I'm not onto anything , I was just piggybacking off of @RGV82

I wonder how many other 10-6 teams were outscored over the course of a season ?
 
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austins23

Hall of Fame
I wonder how many other 10-6 teams were outscored over the course of a season ?
Quick search of the 2018 season.
Cowboys were 10-6 and were just a +15 point differential. Other 10-6 teams that year were WAY on the + side of points scored.

2016 Season
Miami Dolphins were 10-6 and were -17 in the point differential. Just for giggles and grins, the Texans won the AFCS that year at 9-7 and were -49 in point differential. 279 for, 328 against. smh

2015 Season
Seattle Seahawks were 10-6 and OUTscored its opponents by 146, for comparison.
 

austins23

Hall of Fame
Bored at work...
1993 Season
Oakland Raiders were 10-6 / -20 point differential
Detroit Lions were 10-6 / +6 point differential

1995 Season
Philadelphia Eagles were 10-6 / -20 point differential

The Jets were 10-6 twice back in the day and were +13 and +20 both times.
The Titans were 10-6 back in the day and were +4
The Bengals were 10-6 and were +14
 

RGV82

Random guy
Bored at work...
1993 Season
Oakland Raiders were 10-6 / -20 point differential
Detroit Lions were 10-6 / +6 point differential

1995 Season
Philadelphia Eagles were 10-6 / -20 point differential

The Jets were 10-6 twice back in the day and were +13 and +20 both times.
The Titans were 10-6 back in the day and were +4
The Bengals were 10-6 and were +14
Thanks for looking into this. Very interesting that of the countless 10-6 teams year after year, we have to go this far back to find teams even remotely close to us in terms of point differential.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
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Thanks for looking into this. Very interesting that of the countless 10-6 teams year after year, we have to go this far back to find teams even remotely close to us in terms of point differential.
Last year Seattle was 11-5 with a pt differential of 7
 

RGV82

Random guy
Last year Seattle was 11-5 with a pt differential of 7
Yeah, that is odd. 12 of their games were decided by one score. 10 of those games were wins, and 2 in O.T. Seattle had a very strange season last year and managed to pull off wins in INCREDIBLY close games all year. Crazy to think 10 of their 11 wins were by 1 score or less.
 

Earl34

Veteran
Of course you dont find this odd.

Or ask why this may have happened.
Did Kelly call the plays? There were reports that game plans were implemented, practice and then last minute changes were being made to the game plans on Saturdays. With a new starter and a meaningless game, did they streamline the game plan, minimized last minute changes? Once the game started and Watson was not playing, did the Titans relaxed or did it take the Titans a drive to adjust their game plan? Why couldn't the Texans score again in the 2nd or 4th quarter after the opening score?

They are several plausible scenarios I can come up with before "being onto the something" you want to get into.
 
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Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
There have been multiple mentions that Kelly called the plays in the Atlanta game. I know Atlanta's defense was bad. But if Kelly called the plays that led to a 400 yard passing day and the biggest scoring output of the season.

Random thought: Why didn't Kelly call more games?

I think h called that game because Bill knew that defense was very weak. So he let Kelly get feet wet. Or you can say he did him like a trainer would do to a young boxer. ( Put him in a match he knows he’s going to win and win convincingly)

I remember hearing Kelly would have a game plan ready to go, since he was conducting the practices while O’Brien was busy with general manager duties. Then on that last day of practice O’Brien would change that plan. Therefore, he probably didn’t want him to perform in that roll as of yet. Just sit back and continue to learn .
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Did Kelly call the plays? There were reports that game plans were implemented, practice and then last minute changes were being made to the game plans on Saturdays. With a new starter and a meaningless game, did they streamline the game plan, minimized last minute changes? Once the game started and Watson was not playing, did the Titans relaxed or did it take the Titans a drive to adjust their game plan? Why couldn't the Texans score again in the 2nd or 4th quarter after the opening score?

They are several plausible scenarios I can come up with before "being onto the something" you want to get into.

The defense game plan was on Watson and not AJ. Once they got settled in and made the necessary adjustments, AJ and that offense couldn’t do squat else.


Man my brother was saying that same crap a few weeks ago. I asked him what happened after that drive? And he really couldn’t answer that question.

On that first drive we were seeing a lot of short routes and quick hitters. Big difference from the long crossing routes and fly routes. We also didn’t have one of the linemen stalling drives with penalties either.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
I think you're onto something.

I also think it's funny that McCarron scored on his 1st drive. This shows the disconnect between HC/Starting QB. This has to change.
The Texans offense only scored 14 points in the game and lost by 21!

Just two weeks prior, Texans scored 24 in Nashville with Watson and won the game.

I'll take a victory & more points scored over a 1st drive TD any day!
 

steelbtexan

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The Texans offense only scored 14 points in the game and lost by 21!

Just two weeks prior, Texans scored 24 in Nashville with Watson and won the game.

I'll take a victory & more points scored over a 1st drive TD any day!
This is what usually happens when Clark is your starting LT.
 

steelbtexan

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Did Kelly call the plays? There were reports that game plans were implemented, practice and then last minute changes were being made to the game plans on Saturdays. With a new starter and a meaningless game, did they streamline the game plan, minimized last minute changes? Once the game started and Watson was not playing, did the Titans relaxed or did it take the Titans a drive to adjust their game plan? Why couldn't the Texans score again in the 2nd or 4th quarter after the opening score?

They are several plausible scenarios I can come up with before "being onto the something" you want to get into.
These are thing we dont know, although I would be surprised if the Titans took it easy, since they were playing for their playoff lives.

I wouldn't take any of these scenario's seriously since the Texans were playing their backups at most positions.
 

steelbtexan

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Or why AJ resigned. If what you are inferring is true, you’d think he would look for a better “chance to start” opportunity.

& you know I believe in AJ
Looks like AJ's going to be a career backup. (A very good one)

Hue/Sashi screwing up that trade with the Bengals screwed AJ out of any chance to prove AJ could handle the starting QB gig.
 

thunderkyss

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I also think it's funny that McCarron scored on his 1st drive. This shows the disconnect between HC/Starting QB. This has to change.
Or why AJ resigned. If what you are inferring is true, you’d think he would look for a better “chance to start” opportunity.

& you know I believe in AJ
Looks like AJ's going to be a career backup. (A very good one)

Hue/Sashi screwing up that trade with the Bengals screwed AJ out of any chance to prove AJ could handle the starting QB gig.
None of that has anything to do with your initial assertion. As if the connection between Aj & BO'b is better than the connection with Watson.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
None of that has anything to do with your initial assertion. As if the connection between Aj & BO'b is better than the connection with Watson.

Do you think that's terribly off base ?

OB's offensive system doesn't really suit Watson's strengths …. He's not the prototypical pocket passer who's going to excel standing in the pocket in that system where McCarron is more of the traditional pocket passer.
 

thunderkyss

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Do you think that's terribly off base ?

OB's offensive system doesn't really suit Watson's strengths …. He's not the prototypical pocket passer who's going to excel standing in the pocket in that system where McCarron is more of the traditional pocket passer.
OB's offensive system? There you go talking about unicorns.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Here’s a random thought, for those always complaining that the Texans don’t take chances on guys with character issues


WTF?
Baker had a guaranteed NFL contract of $9 million............

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According to an affidavit released by the Miramar Police Department, Baker, Seattle cornerback Quinton Dunbar, and third unidentified man were alleged to have threatened attendees at the gathering, with Baker reportedly brandishing a semiautomatic firearm.

The affidavit further goes on to claim that Baker allegedly directed Dunbar to take cash and watches from the victims by force. Baker and Dunbar were said to have allegedly stole $12,400 and four watches worth an estimated $61,100 from multiple victims.

One of he victims told police that he had met Baker and Dunbar at a party at another social gathering a couple of days before the incident, a meeting in which the two cornerbacks allegedly lost about $70,000.


Also according to the affidavit, the 22-year-old Baker is alleged to have directed an unnamed man wearing a red face mask to shoot an unidentified party as that person entered the room.

No one was believed to have been physically harmed during the incident.

The Miramar Police Department confirmed that an arrest warrant has been issued for Baker. In addition to the legal percussions, the incident is expected to be reviewed under the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy.

Any action taken by the league against Baker, per the terms of the new CBA agreed to by the players union and the NFL earlier this year, will be determined by a neutral party appointed by the league and the NFLPA.

LINK
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The 3 involved criminals had 3 separate getaway cars waiting for them outside.............all low profile, of course.............new Mercedes, BMW and Lamborghini.............. :toropalm:
 
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Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
He thinks he does …. Most of us think he's got a screw or two loose.
so why tear down Deshaun Watson in order to justify a faulty management structure? Quite a broad stroke to say "Watsons strengths dont fit OBriens system" when it has been that very thing that has kept this team relevant and the coaches employed yet those coaches are understood to have a "screw loose"? For the love of Pete how many more "pocket passers" do you guys need to see? Every single QB OBrien has trotted through here has been just that. Watson has been the difference among all those guys, the offense is finally looking like a threat, and now it wont work because Watson cant make it work, but yet somehow OBrien still is getting a pass and guys going out of their ways to bring up RIDICULOUS arguments! Comparisons to Andy Reid, how DVOA isnt really applicable to OBrien, turning a blind eye to historically bad personnel management, how Watson doesnt fit this "system" among all the slander and ignorant takes on Watson the player, and now inferring that AJ McCarron is somehow a better QB for this team AJ MCCARRON?? SMH and those are just THIS WEEKS bad takes!!! LMAO
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
so why tear down Deshaun Watson in order to justify a faulty management structure? Quite a broad stroke to say "Watsons strengths dont fit OBriens system" when it has been that very thing that has kept this team relevant and the coaches employed yet those coaches are understood to have a "screw loose"? For the love of Pete how many more "pocket passers" do you guys need to see? Every single QB OBrien has trotted through here has been just that. Watson has been the difference among all those guys, the offense is finally looking like a threat, and now it wont work because Watson cant make it work, but yet somehow OBrien still is getting a pass and guys going out of their ways to bring up RIDICULOUS arguments! Comparisons to Andy Reid, how DVOA isnt really applicable to OBrien, turning a blind eye to historically bad personnel management, how Watson doesnt fit this "system" among all the slander and ignorant takes on Watson the player, and now inferring that AJ McCarron is somehow a better QB for this team AJ MCCARRON?? SMH and those are just THIS WEEKS bad takes!!! LMAO
That’s because they’re the only ones going back over films and trying to find warts to Watson’s game. Every quarterback will make mistakes. Especially three years into their careers. Prime example Peyton Manning. But in order for Watson to be a franchise quarterback he has to be the author of perfection.
 
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Texansphan

All Pro
That’s because they’re the only ones going back over films and trying to find warts to Watson’s game. Every quarterback will make mistakes. Especially three years into their careers. Prime example Peyton Manning. But in order for Watson to be a franchise quarterback he has to the author of perfection.
That’s because they’re the only ones going back over films and trying to find warts to Watson’s game. Every quarterback will make mistakes. Especially three years into their careers. Prime example Peyton Manning. But in order for Watson to be a franchise quarterback he has to the author of perfection.
For some on this board, the last sentence would certainly seem to be the case.
 


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