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Texans hire Bill O'Brien as HC

Quick: everyone name the best things Pats coordinators have done as head coach since leaving Belichick. Go.
 
TEXANS84 said:
You know what, I'd be pissed if this happens.

I'm tired of Patriots cast offs as everyone knows by now (with all the other failures associated from the Pats), STOP.

NO. No No No!

They have not been successful. AT ALL.

Want to lose Dre? There you go. Want a 5-11 season and consider it a success? There you go.

Sick and tired of this ****. How can Isray get it right but a multi-billionaire can't?

There you go.
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Your assessment of O'Brien's possible hire is basically down to how other former Patriots coaches performed? Do you really think this is the only reason that O'Brien is coveted by numerous NFL and NCAA teams? Do you know anything about this coach? I know being a fan is all about emotion, but at some point you have to use your mind.
 
steelbtexan said:
And both of them were out of work for more than 1 season before Gary hired them. More FoG if you ask me. I wish I knew a site that you could see what AC's have been paid throughout the yrs and the correlation between paying AC's vs winning teams.

Can you tell me what Sherman/Rhodes were paid PER yr while they were here? If not I think we are both jumping to conclusions. The fact that Sherman/Rhodes were out of work for multiple yrs before signing on with Gary leads me to believe they came on the cheap.
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Sherman was fired by the Packers after the final game of the 2005 season (Jan. 1, 2006) and hired by the Texans on Feb. 15, 2006. That's about 6 weeks. Ray Rhodes was never on the market for any length of time either. After his health issues, he stayed on with the SeaHawks in a reduced role thru the 2007 season. He started with the Texans in the 2008 season.

You say we're both jumping to conclusions, and if you mean neither of us has objective, verifiable facts we can point/link to, then as I said before, yes - I agree with that. If by jumping to conclusions you mean stating things with no other reasoning or logic (beyond a couple of incorrect statements about how long the assistant coaches were out of work), then only one of us has done that.
 
Lauren said:
Quick: everyone name the best things Pats coordinators have done as head coach since leaving Belichick. Go.
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Well, one took over a college program full of scandal, where students were allowed to transfer out without penalty, where new recruits were told there was no hope for a national championship, no hope for a bowl game, and has put together 2 winning seasons.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what any others have done, because they are not being interviewed for the head coaching position with the Houston Texans.
 
Pollardized said:
Well, one took over a college program full of scandal, where students were allowed to transfer out without penalty, where new recruits were told there was no hope for a national championship, no hope for a bowl game, and has put together 2 winning seasons.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what any others have done, because they are not being interviewed for the head coaching position with the Houston Texans.
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But he's from the north! A damned Yankee!
 
TEXANS84 said:
You know what, I'd be pissed if this happens.

I'm tired of Patriots cast offs as everyone knows by now (with all the other failures associated from the Pats), STOP.

NO. No No No!

They have not been successful. AT ALL.
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I hear what you're saying, but unlike all the others, O'Brien actually did something after leaving Belichick's fold & becoming an NFL head coach. This one might be different.

I wanted the Whizz.... but I liked all the guys mentioned in our "search"
 
Lauren said:
Oh, boom. You burned me.

The Texans don't have a great history (as evidenced by the fact that Marciano was allowed to peddle his BS forever), so call me skeptical.
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No argument from me with Marciano. His tenure here was a joke.

I like Bill O though. What he did under the tremendous pressure at Penn State was impressive.

Plus if he was listening and learning, working under Belichick could be a great asset.
 
bOODRO87 said:
This guy is by far the best candidate available. Who the hell wants Lovie Smith? Whisenhunt? We'd look like the same old Texans. This guy is a leader and knows a thing or two about a thing or two. This team is going to change if they get him and it's going to be good for everyone.
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For some reason I get the feeling you would have poo-pood the decision to hire Belichick after he failed miserably in Cleveland.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, I am thinking about 2011 when Andre was either out/ or hobbled after week two... We are damn good that year!
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If we could run the ball like we did back then, with a halfway decent play maker at QB (who can read the blitz in the second half).... this team can go places.
 
Would've rather had a proven NFL winning HC. But I really like the O'Brien hire. If he can talk Mangini into becoming his DC that would make me very happy.

I'm just glad BoB spent the $$$$ for a quality hire.
 
thunderkyss said:
If we could run the ball like we did back then, with a halfway decent play maker at QB (who can read the blitz in the second half).... this team can go places.
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Did Keenum/Schabub forget how to read defenses in 2nd halves of games? Or is/was that on Gary/Dennison.
 
houstonspartan said:
Well, we're now in the messy stage of job negotiations: money and details. This could take a few days of back and forth before a deal is reached.


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Definitely won't be announced before Wade finishes coaching his last game. McNair may be a lot of things, but he's not an asshatdouche
 
steelbtexan said:
Did Keenum/Schabub forget how to read defenses in 2nd halves of games? Or is/was that on Gary/Dennison.
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Neither Gary or Dennison was on the field when the team was blitzed. Schaub has mobility issues, Case has "scared little girl syndrome" Teams blitzed him more frequently as the game went on (i.e. second half).
 
Just like with draftable players, I judge hc candidates as independent men. Its the organizational skills of the coach moreso than than the tree. I hope he brings weiss and romeo with him.
 
DX-TEX said:
But with O'Brien we get our 2014 motto:

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure!
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Woke up turned on tv to watch teddy Bridgewater and seen the announcement that we are trying to come to terms with Obrian. Figure this must be a sign. Looks like it's going to be Obrian and teddy.

Second play of the game teddy gets sacked for a safety. Ugghh!!
 
thunderkyss said:
Neither Gary or Dennison was on the field when the team was blitzed. Schaub has mobility issues, Case has "scared little girl syndrome" Teams blitzed him more frequently as the game went on (i.e. second half).
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None of this popped up in the 1st half of games?
 
mussop said:
Woke up turned on tv to watch teddy Bridgewater and seen the announcement that we are trying to come to terms with Obrian. Figure this must be a sign. Looks like it's going to be Obrian and teddy.

Second play of the game teddy gets sacked for a safety. Ugghh!!
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That's right about weiss.
 
steelbtexan said:
None of this popped up in the 1st half of games?
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I'm still rooting for Case. But he has not played well enough for us to not take a QB on day one of the upcoming draft & with Kubiak gone, the deck is stacked against him unless Bob hires Briles/Sumlin out of the blue.

Maybe he'll be our Drew Brees & maybe we'll make the right decision & keep him. But it's a longshot from here on out.
 
JB said:
Why?
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He played in the NFL

His formative coaching years were with the Steelers

He won a Super Bowl as the Steelers offensive coordinator

He saw a bad organization first hand with the Cardinals

He won the NFC Championship with a 9-7 team.

He took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl & that was one of the best Super Bowls I had seen in a long time & I think the Cardinals were a poorly ran organization before Wisenhunt got there so I'm not holding their lack of talent against him.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
So what's this O'Brien guy's style offensively and defensively?
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IIRC, he was the mastermind behind the New England 2-TE offense with Gronk and Hernandez a few years ago. Ran a pro-style offense at Penn State but didn't have a problem spreading it out. Loves to utilize multiple TE sets.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
So what's this O'Brien guy's style offensively and defensively?
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New England Patriots
He became the quarterbacks coach and offensive play-caller following the 2008 season after the departure of quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in February 2011.

The Patriots gave the Jacksonville Jaguars permission to interview O'Brien for their head coaching vacancy during the Patriots' playoff bye week; O'Brien was scheduled for an interview, but never actually interviewed for the job. Instead, O'Brien interviewed with Penn State staff on January 5, 2012, was offered the head coach position, and signed a four-year contract to become the Nittany Lions' coach. O'Brien continued as New England's offensive coordinator through Super Bowl XLVI.
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steelbtexan said:
Would've rather had a proven NFL winning HC. But I really like the O'Brien hire. If he can talk Mangini into becoming his DC that would make me very happy.

I'm just glad BoB spent the $$$$ for a quality hire.
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I also wanted Vince Lombardi or George Halas. Turns out they are not available. Most proven NFL HCs are either dead, retired, current coaching an NFL team, or proven losers.

I like the idea of O'Brien better than the usual retread (Lovie Smith, Crennel, Jason Garrett - oops got a couple of days ahead of the curve there). Years ago I would have liked Cowher but he's been away too long.

Don't worry. If the Texans hire O'Brien someday they will lose a game, or fail to get a first down, or some such failure and you will blame it all on BoB being too cheap.
 
houstonhurricane said:
Report: PSU recruit says he just talked to O'Brien who told him that he was staying...
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Well then that settles it, because no one has ever told a fib about such a thing, especially a football coach.

Until the contract is signed and the Brink's trucks have delivered the money from Bob to BOB, there is a tiny chance he could wind up staying so of course he would tell a recruit that he is staying.
 
Well let's hope one of our tight ends doesn't end up being a murderer.

I wonder if this means Daniels won't be cut. I'm comfortable with Daniels and Graham as dual tight ends. Hopefully he knows how to use Foster and Andre too. Hopefully he's play action-heavy. When it's working right, there's not an offense I'd rather have.
 
Lauren said:
Oh, boom. You burned me.

The Texans don't have a great history (as evidenced by the fact that Marciano was allowed to peddle his BS forever), so call me skeptical.
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Well, to be fair, going by your statement you'd probably be just as skeptical of any other Texans hire, because you're judging the history of the organization, and history of other Patriots coordinators, and not the candidate himself.
 
michaelm said:
Well, to be fair, going by your statement you'd probably be just as skeptical of any other Texans hire, because you're judging the history of the organization, and history of other Patriots coordinators, and not the candidate himself.
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Yep. And for that, I blame that last franchise. Oilers ****ed SO MANY people up.
 
TEXANS84 said:
You know what, I'd be pissed if this happens.

I'm tired of Patriots cast offs as everyone knows by now (with all the other failures associated from the Pats), STOP.

NO. No No No!

They have not been successful. AT ALL.

Want to lose Dre? There you go. Want a 5-11 season and consider it a success? There you go.

Sick and tired of this ****. How can Isray get it right but a multi-billionaire can't?

There you go.
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Sooner or later one of them is going to pan out. Lets just hope O'Brien is the one that does.
 
DX-TEX said:
Does anyone else that somehow Kraft and belichick were whispering in Bobs ear?
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I don't think anyone in the NFL would go to the trouble. Bob's proven to the world that he's perfectly capable of making stupid football decisions all on his own.
 
I'm wait-and-see on Bill O.

But I think he came across as pretty classless when interviewed on the field after the Ticket City Bowl in 2012.

His team was throttled by Keenum and UH, yet he didn't mention them, let alone congratulate them. All he talked about was how his team fought through the Sandusky scandal to show up. And oh, by the way, UH lost its coach (Sumlin) just a couple of weeks earlier. So they didn't have it so easy, either.

But if O'Brien has the personality of Belichick, it won't matter as long as he can coach. And in fairness, he came across well in the HBO Real Sports feature this year on him, his wife and their severely disabled son:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/s...ill-obrien-no-stranger-to-adversity.html?_r=0
 
Tolar's Ghost said:
I'm wait-and-see on Bill O.

But I think he came across as pretty classless when interviewed on the field after the Ticket City Bowl in 2012.

His team was throttled by Keenum and UH, and he didn't mention them, let alone congratulate them. All he talked about was how his team fought through the Sandusky scandal to show up. And oh, by the way, UH lost its coach (Sumlin) just a couple of weeks earlier. So they didn't have it so easy, either.

But if O'Brien has the personality of Belichick, it won't matter as long as he can coach. And in fairness, he came across well in the HBO Real Sports feature this year on him, his wife and their severely disabled son:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/s...ill-obrien-no-stranger-to-adversity.html?_r=0
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Don't believe that was O'Brien they interviewed...he wasn't the coach until the next year...IIRC, he was still with New England...I believe that was was Paterno's son they interviewed.
 
tedr said:
Don't believe that was O'Brien they interviewed...he wasn't the coach until the next year...IIRC, he was still with New England...I believe that was was Paterno's son they interviewed.
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Definitely not O'Brien. When he took the job PSU was on probation and bowl ban.
 
It wasn't Jay Paterno, but you're right - it wasn't O'Brien.

It was Tom Bradley, who was the interim coach.

Thanks for pointing that out.

You can tell in the first minute of this clip that it wouldn't be O'Brien's style to act like that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1BE3HcZ9PE

I think I like the guy.

Meanwhile, for some reason the Steelers flagship stations hired Bradley for their postgame coverage. He's a huge drag.
 
Tolar's Ghost said:
I'm wait-and-see on Bill O.

But I think he came across as pretty classless when interviewed on the field after the Ticket City Bowl in 2012.

His team was throttled by Keenum and UH, yet he didn't mention them, let alone congratulate them. All he talked about was how his team fought through the Sandusky scandal to show up. And oh, by the way, UH lost its coach (Sumlin) just a couple of weeks earlier. So they didn't have it so easy, either.
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Wasn't that Tom Bradley, their interim HC?

O'Brien became their coach for the 2012 season and they haven't been bowl-eligible while he's coached them.
 
I don't know if this has been posted yet but it doesn't look good for O'brien fans

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Bill-OBrien-tells-Thomas-Holley-hes-staying-168244

Brooklyn (N.Y.) Abraham Lincoln five-star defensive tackle and Penn State commit Thomas Holley spoke with head coach Bill O'Brien a few minutes ago regarding the ESPN report that O'Brien was in the process of working on a deal to become the Houston Texans next head coach.

“I just off the phone with him," Holley told 247Sports Luke Stampini. "He said he isn’t going. It’s not true."

Holley, the No. 24 player in the country according to 247Sports, is in Florida this week competing in the Under Armour All-America Game.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm still rooting for Case. But he has not played well enough for us to not take a QB on day one of the upcoming draft & with Kubiak gone, the deck is stacked against him unless Bob hires Briles/Sumlin out of the blue.

Maybe he'll be our Drew Brees & maybe we'll make the right decision & keep him. But it's a longshot from here on out.
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Agreed

Case was put in a bad situation and will probably have a long career as a backup QB.
 
GlenRice said:
I don't know if this has been posted yet but it doesn't look good for O'brien fans

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Bill-OBrien-tells-Thomas-Holley-hes-staying-168244

Brooklyn (N.Y.) Abraham Lincoln five-star defensive tackle and Penn State commit Thomas Holley spoke with head coach Bill O'Brien a few minutes ago regarding the ESPN report that O'Brien was in the process of working on a deal to become the Houston Texans next head coach.

“I just off the phone with him," Holley told 247Sports Luke Stampini. "He said he isn’t going. It’s not true."

Holley, the No. 24 player in the country according to 247Sports, is in Florida this week competing in the Under Armour All-America Game.
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Chip Kelly said the same thing
 
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