maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'll always view the signing of Osweiler as a McNair move. RS got on board b/c he was given his marching orders and doing as instructed. I think Osweiler's sole value in the eyes of McNair......he beat the Patriots while putting up some decent numbers during his short stint as starting QB. The Patriots game elevated his stock.
When OB stated he only coaches the players he's given.....when asked about Osweiler, pretty much summed it up for me that he was not n the talks when it was decided to sign him. Anyone in here remember when the two of them got along great? In my mind, OB pushed the team to trade Osweiler b/c he felt like he wasn't going to win with him as starting QB.
Watson's in the same boat. He's not a OB hand selected pick.....he's a RS pick. The difference, Watson's proven to have talent and is capable of winning games. I think if OB had a way to put Watson in the dog house he probably would. OB is set in his ways and I just don't see Watson as the QB OB wants running his prized offense. Did anyone else see any photos of OB and other members of the Texans War Room jumping up and slapping high fives or patting RS on the back after the Watson trade-up and pick?
Texans are n another quandary, keep these two together and win just enough to no longer have relevant drafts, fire OB and bring in HC and staff that can build an offense around Watson's strengths, or trade Watson, keep OB and give him the picks needed to rebuild the team in his vision with the QB he's envisioned to run his offense. There really isn't any gray area in what must be done.
I agree with you except the bolded. Oh I fully agree that Watson wasn't the QB that OB wanted and the war room photo keeps getting dragged up but we have to remember that was 3 years ago. Lot of things have changed since then and I think OB is sincere when he talks about liking Watson and how you can win a SB with that kid. Here is a counter to the war room photo, after the Pats win it was Watson that made the speech and gave the game ball to OB and they hugged and generally seemed to like each other. Now that could just be the emotion of a big win but that sort of thing is hard to fake.
I do agree that Watson isn't the type of QB that OB wants, not Watson himself but mobile, duel threat QBs. OB has always favored big arm pocket passers, we saw it with Mallot, Hoyer, Savage, though neither of them had a great arm, and even Osweiler was very much a pocket passer he was just a pocket passer that couldn't pass. What Watson had going for him that has caused OB to try and make it work is that Watson is a true student of the game and wants to win as much as any player to ever play the game. Add to that I think he is very easy to get along with and wants to be coached and there you go.
I mentioned this before but when talking about Jason Garrett and why he keeps going back to the passing game when they are built to run. One person on ESPN says coaches default to what they know in high pressure situations. I think a pocket passer system is what OB's default is and it just doesn't work with this QB and this team. What we see in games like the Jags and the Pats is OB overcoming his default and seeing and using the team as it is built, what we see in the Denver and Ravens game is OB defaulting back to how he wishes the team was built. Sadly I don't know that he will ever be able to overcome his default enough to win it all at least not as a Texan.