Texansballer74
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Re read my post again dude
Again why isn’t Corrosion highlighting the positives as well?
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Re read my post again dude
Again why isn’t Corrosion highlighting the positives as well?
Which QB's team is 3-0 and which is 0-3.
Which one beat the #1 seed Ravens in the playoffs to reach the AFC Championship game ?
Right now , this season , who's statistics are superior ?
One of them has three game winning drives in the last two minutes of his teams three wins this season , the other hasn't even kept his team close ...
Look , Watson has a higher ceiling and a higher floor .... but right now , he's not playing anywhere near the quality of QB that Tannehill is.
.....and Tannehill delivers the same results suited up in Watson’s place? Texans are 3-0 after Tannehill leads them on 3 game winning drives?
Tannehill was an Aggie. Quit Aggie bashing!!https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TannRy00.htm
Watson's 40 games: 24W-16L, 66.8 compl. pct., 10,508 yards (262.7 ypg), 75 TD - 32 INT, AY/A 8.1 (Air Yard/Attempt)
Tannerhill's 32 games: 15-17, low 60s., 7,207 yards (225.5 ypg), 36 TD - 30 INT, AY/A Low 6.1
next 8 games: 5-3, low 60s, 1907 yards (238.4 ypg), 14 TD - 6 INT, AY/A Low 6s
Tannerhill's 40 games: 20W-20L, low 60s completion pct., 9,114 yards (227.85 ypg), 50 TD - 42 INT, low 6s AY/A
Rushing yardage and TD scored on the ground: It's a joke to even trying to compare.
I have no idea how you can come up with that comparison.
Steeler's first offensive play.Watson hasn't been close in his three games where one drive would make a difference.
Tannehill has kept his team in position that those drives matter.
I don't think swapping Watson for Tannehill or even prime Drew Brees fixes all that ails this team .... but Watson puts himself in a lot of these situations by not taking those easy yards and ending up in long yardage situations. Contrary to popular belief , there are open pass catchers on damn near every play - Its not the system , its the trigger man.
Plenty of highlight plays but a lot of bad plays too ... and it only takes one to ruin a drive.
I'm starting to wonder what his mental process is in all of this - where's he starting at after the ball is snapped and how he's progressing thru the routes (or how he's been told to do so).
You guys are free to disagree ... I know my position isn't a popular one but this is what I see , particularly after breaking things down on the all-22.
Same thing, on the next first down, Big Ben had two guys underneath similar to the INT play by Watson, but he went deep and long with the LCB draping all over his receiver and was in phase from the get go (incompletion again).Watson hasn't been close in his three games where one drive would make a difference.
Tannehill has kept his team in position that those drives matter.
I don't think swapping Watson for Tannehill or even prime Drew Brees fixes all that ails this team .... but Watson puts himself in a lot of these situations by not taking those easy yards and ending up in long yardage situations. Contrary to popular belief , there are open pass catchers on damn near every play - Its not the system , its the trigger man.
Plenty of highlight plays but a lot of bad plays too ... and it only takes one to ruin a drive.
I'm starting to wonder what his mental process is in all of this - where's he starting at after the ball is snapped and how he's progressing thru the routes (or how he's been told to do so).
You guys are free to disagree ... I know my position isn't a popular one but this is what I see , particularly after breaking things down on the all-22.
I'm starting to wonder what his mental process is in all of this - where's he starting at after the ball is snapped and how he's progressing thru the routes (or how he's been told to do so).
Everybody makes them. In case you didn’t realize it, nobody scores on every drive they have.
Again why isn’t Corrosion highlighting the positives as well?
Steeler's first offensive play.
Big Ben had a wide open RB just past the LOS, but he went to the TE 85 four yards down the side line (for an incompletion, no less).
Why?
Because that was his first read.
There can be open receivers but it doesn't necessarily mean that he'll get the ball.
On second down, Big Ben threw behind a wide open receiver; what a terrible QB.
Then on third and ten, he had a wide open RB on the shallow crossing route but looked elsewhere.
Bad "Watson" bad.
He didn't let the ball go until the pocket collapsed on him and got hit big time.
Yeah, but he did miss a big play downfield. DUH.None of Big Ben's decisions led to an INT and momentum swings...try again
Playing devil's advocate. If Watson throws the ball away or throws a pass short of the sticks and the Texans punt. If the Steelers still score, did the short pass or punt cause a momentum swing?None of Big Ben's decisions led to an INT and momentum swings...try again
Yeah, but he did miss a big play downfield. DUH.
Playing devil's advocate. If Watson throws the ball away or throws a pass short of the sticks and the Texans punt. If the Steelers still score, did the short pass or punt cause a momentum swing?
Don't get me wrong the INT could have been avoided, but I have a hard time blaming an INT on the opponent's 20 yard line that was the equivalent of a punt swinging momentum in such a fashion that on their next drive, a 11 yard sack and false start had them at 3rd and 26.
Totally disagree.AGAIN, the int was more than just a TO....it killed momentum that they'd just gotten back on that particular drive. The issue wasn't that DW4 missed a big play downfield..although he did that too early in the game to Cooks...that happens....... it was that he forced it when he probably shouldn't have.
Playing devil's advocate. If Watson throws the ball away or throws a pass short of the sticks and the Texans punt. If the Steelers still score, did the short pass or punt cause a momentum swing?
Don't get me wrong the INT could have been avoided, but I have a hard time blaming an INT on the opponent's 20 yard line that was the equivalent of a punt swinging momentum in such a fashion that on their next drive, a 11 yard sack and false start had them at 3rd and 26.
Totally disagree.
It was like a punt.
The game is still in the balance. The Texans still led by one point.
The Steelers had to go a long way to score (79 yards).
If the D hold them to a FG, the task of coming back to win the game would have been better.
Momentum killer is how they got to 3rd and 15.
There was still some 13 minutes and a half left. A Punt is a Punt."Like" a punt and actually being 1 are 2 totally different things..for various reasons..#2.... YES, the game was still in the balance, so you're job as the qb is to not give the opposition any "hand up" in that situation. #3, the Steelers wouldn't have had to go 79 yards to score and take the lead..they could've driven 40 of that, kicked a FG and still taken the lead.
Furthermore, if the defense miraculously does hold them to a FG which we all know was pretty unlikely, we still lost the lead, the Steelers still got the extra possesion and we still as an offense have to get into position to take the lead back whether it was possible via a FG or not....against the #1 defense in the league.....on the road...when we weren't playing well on offense in the 2nd half.
Contrast that with throwing it short, maybe your FG kicker can knock in a 55 yarder & extend your lead.....NOW....the Steelers actually do have to go the full 80 yds and score a TD to take the lead, they have no momentum at their backs and the odds of your defense being able to hold them from scoring a TD are slightly better than they are of holding them to a FG. In addition to this, the clock is on your side at this point.
I know that's right.Just watching the action away from Mahomes excellence is amazing to me. That all 22 is incredible. It makes me want Bienemy even more.
I try to focus on improvement and DW4's not improved over tlast 8 games at all. I would say he's regressed.
now how bout sustain a drive and keep your defense and the opposing offense on the sidelines.
He simply has to learn to take what the defense gives you more. This is the biggest difference between he and Mahomes right now. He gets off the ball on time and let’s his playmakers do their thing. Period.
Nobody said his take wasn’t legit. My question is why aren’t we highlighting the positive as well.
See, I was thinking on the drive at the end of the half, when Watson hit Akins for the big gain... if that were Kelce, that would have been a TD.
Same thing when you were saying Waston should have thrown the ball to Akins or Johnson in the flat on 3rd & 15... yeah, if that were Kelce or Damian Wilson that's just as likely to pick up that first down as Watson throwing it across his body into double coverage. But we don't have playmakers like Kelce or whoever.
When we take the field, it looks like it's so small. So hard to get away from the defense. When KC takes the field, it looks so huge. Impossible to cover the whole field.
Right now, the only playmaker we have on the team, is Watson.
Zero points in the 2nd half makes it kinda hard to talk about the positives.
Very few teams get shutout in a half of football.
Even last night, they had beaters for every blitz. Even though their line isn't over powering, they never get beat off the snap and crumble the pocket. Off that tangent, those motions, stab motions, reverse motions, and the open angles they create in pockets is amazing to watch. Like I stated to steelbtexan, that offense looks like Texas tech offense with better players. It doesn't look like Andy Reid offense in Philly nor when he was oc in Green Bay. Walsh always said his offense is catered to the qb.I know that's right.
I watch the KC games (both playoffs and this year), and rewatch them many times.
How they draw up those plays, the route scheme, the blocking sheme, etc.
That is what Great Football is supposed to be about.
His mindset is stuck in the 1950's era of football. He doesn't even have the smashmouth players either to do what he wants.You obviously don't know OB as well as you think you do. OB can restrict things so severely trying to protect a 7-0 lead that he'll stand there and change nothing while watching his team get shut out for 3 quarters. He likes to lean heavily on his non-existent defense to hold 3 or 7 point leads the moment they're obtained.
They would need a HC with great people skills to handle all the different personalities; a true leader of men.The Texans will always be limited talent wise if all they ever want are choir boys. Andy Reid has always gambled on talent. I remember in the JJ draft, when Justin Houston was there, they took Brooks Reed. Marcus Peters sitting there, they take Kevin Johnson. This offseason, Kareem Hunt sitting there, they traded for David Johnson. This is something management needs to change
I'm going to watch that game now.Even last night, they had beaters for every blitz. Even though their line isn't over powering, they never get beat off the snap and crumble the pocket. Off that tangent, those motions, stab motions, reverse motions, and the open angles they create in pockets is amazing to watch. Like I stated to steelbtexan, that offense looks like Texas tech offense with better players. It doesn't look like Andy Reid offense in Philly nor when he was oc in Green Bay. Walsh always said his offense is catered to the qb.
They have soo much misdirection and movement, then its a series of fast guys in spaceI'm going to watch that game now.
Just saw the first big play, just a simple pass to Hill in one on one with Peters along the side line.
1 7:23 1 10 RAV 36 Patrick Mahomes pass complete deep right to Tyreek Hill for 32 yards (tackle by DeShon Elliott)
3 double team blocks on the play side; Mahomes had all day.
They cleared out the play side (and the throwing lane) with the slot receiver running a dig route to the middle and another receiver to the flat.
There were nothing between Mahomes and his target but the green grass of home.
I mean, that was as good (and easy) as it gets.
They have soo much misdirection and movement, then its a series of fast guys in space
See, I was thinking on the drive at the end of the half, when Watson hit Akins for the big gain... if that were Kelce, that would have been a TD.
Same thing when you were saying Waston should have thrown the ball to Akins or Johnson in the flat on 3rd & 15... yeah, if that were Kelce or Damian Wilson that's just as likely to pick up that first down as Watson throwing it across his body into double coverage. But we don't have playmakers like Kelce or whoever.
When we take the field, it looks like it's so small. So hard to get away from the defense. When KC takes the field, it looks so huge. Impossible to cover the whole field.
Right now, the only playmaker we have on the team, is Watson.
Yes Sir.
1 1:39 2 10 RAV 48 Patrick Mahomes pass complete short middle to Travis Kelce for 11 yards (tackle by Chuck Clark and Marlon Humphrey)
They set it up to look like RB screen to the right, then they sneaked Kelce off in the opposite direction.
Wide open and easy as usual.
2 12:55 3 5 RAV 5 Patrick Mahomes pass complete short middle to Anthony Sherman for 5 yards, touchdown
Faked roll out by the QB along with the RB, but turn back for a shovel pass to the FB (who had faked the block before turning back for the catch).
Easy peasy.
Yes Sir.End of the half, 11 personel with Johnson and Akins. No huddle, moved the ball easily. Defense gets a 3 and out to start the 3rd at. 1st play run, 2nd play run, almost blown up in the backfield. 3rd and 7 checkdown, punt. Defense forces a punt. 1st down, pressure a run by Watson for 6 yds. Next play a run, loss of 1. 3rd and 4, left guard gives it up easy and quick, punt. No motions, everything static.
Not even in the same level of footballYes Sir.
Watching the play call/scheme between the Texans and the Chiefs is like watching things from different planets..
Uh, I take that back.
It's more like from different universes.
Sometimes, one just have to laugh.
Andy Reid has never had a limit on his creativity. To add to that I bet the Chiefs have the fastest group of playmakers at WR in the NFL. Mahomes could lob the ball almost to any point and they could run it down. Not taking anything from Mahomes as he is extremely talented.Even last night, they had beaters for every blitz. Even though their line isn't over powering, they never get beat off the snap and crumble the pocket. Off that tangent, those motions, stab motions, reverse motions, and the open angles they create in pockets is amazing to watch. Like I stated to steelbtexan, that offense looks like Texas tech offense with better players. It doesn't look like Andy Reid offense in Philly nor when he was oc in Green Bay. Walsh always said his offense is catered to the qb.