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Super Mario not so super so far

Let's not start talking trash about Mario. He was a good player and would have been retained had he not been so elite. The guy will produce and has in the past. He is an excellent player. He chose to move on and be paid much higher than he would have been as a Texan. It was a mutually beneficial breakup.
 
srrono said:
2 preseason games zero stats registered. I wonder if bills fans are worried.
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Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.
 
Lucky said:
Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.
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That's the issue. How many seasons was Mario totally healthy? I can think of maybe one.
 
There are two certains with Mario:

1. He will produce.
2. He will get hurt somewhere along the way.

With all that said, no Bills fans shouldn't be worried because when the lights come on, he'll be there for them. Now when he gets hurt, then we can ask if Bills fans are worried.
 
Hookem Horns said:
That's the issue. How many seasons was Mario totally healthy? I can think of maybe one.
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Who in the NFL is totally healthy? 2007 and 2008 were his best seasons and he didn't have any debilitating injuries. Mario has been good for about 13 games and 9 sacks. I believe he would have put up excellent numbers in Wade's defense, but that's moot. Williams will be good in Buffalo. Maybe Pro Bowl good. But not as good as he could have been in Houston.
 
It's preseason, as in not real football. :kitten:

I wish Mario good luck, as best as his interests don't conflict with our interests.
 
Yes bills fans should be worried but not because of the no stats stuff. He's no longer in wades defense and supposedly he's back up over 300 lbs. They paid him at a level where he needs to perform at an elite level consistently and I don't know if buffalo is the place for him to do that.
 
Lucky said:
Didn't we used to have these same preseason Mario threads (0-0-0)? Williams will put up numbers (if healthy). Numbers worth $100 million? That's another story.
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Agreed..... his only issue here, was staying healthy & I think that was a by-product of playing 90% of the snaps. He's a warrior & I'm sure the Bills will be pleased with him.

Until that $100M starts to affect their ability to keep other players. But since they were so far below the cap & have pretty much stayed away from "known" players, i shouldn't be a problem for a while.

I watched the game vs Washington, hadn't watched the most recent game. But as a fan, I would be pleased to see that he's working on his hand game. Not relying on the bull rush, or his speed.

When the games count, I'm sure you'll see him use more of what works & less experimenting/practicing.
 
I was watching the Bills play and he has been run right at several times...not impressive, but I think vets like him are just trying not to get hurt. It's cold up there in Buffalo soon! Good thing heaters only cost money.
 
of course they should be worried if i got 80 mill gurantee i might conisder retiring from football go home and eat some ice cream LOL
 
on a BTW i watched him in the bills / minny game man he did nothing LOL

why does he always do that rushes in a half circle around the QB behind him thats all he did he didnt even touch the QB with one finger LOL he didnt even get within 3 feet from him the hole game LOL
 
He won't be a fat Albert hayneswoth, but if the bills fans are expecting reggie white they are in for a big disappointment. Mario was a good and too oft injured player for us. I think he'll be good for the bills but not 100 million good.
 
He's not Bruce Smith 2.0 and not even Bruce Smith lite.

Bills fans will be disappointed regardless of his performance because their expectations are too high and that $100 million price tag did nothing to help them be pragmatic about it.

My in-laws are from Buffalo and they just returned from a two week visit up there. They said Bills fans are expecting great things from Mario and anything less will be a huge disappointment. Hopefully the thick skin he developed here during the VY Sausage Fest is something he can use to handle the inevitable criticism up there.

I wish no ill will on the guy. Just calling it like I see it.
 
Fiddler said:
Agreed..... his only issue here, was staying healthy & I think that was a by-product of playing 90% of the snaps. He's a warrior & I'm sure the Bills will be pleased with him.

Until that $100M starts to affect their ability to keep other players. But since they were so far below the cap & have pretty much stayed away from "known" players, i shouldn't be a problem for a while.

I watched the game vs Washington, hadn't watched the most recent game. But as a fan, I would be pleased to see that he's working on his hand game. Not relying on the bull rush, or his speed.

When the games count, I'm sure you'll see him use more of what works & less experimenting/practicing.
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Exactly. A lack of quality DE rotation left him on the field way too much, and unfortunately I think he's got Kearney behind him now which won't bode well to the rotation. Probably an even worse option if you think about it.

I have no ill feelings towards Mario, he was an okay player here overall, and chased the money while it was there for the taking. Any one of you would have done the same thing.

But I'd bet a wooden nickel Barwin out produces this year over what Mario does.
 
I hate to say this, but I'm glad to see it. It seemed to me the press thought very little of him for his entire tenure in Houston and the minute he goes to Buffalo it's HOLY CRAP Buffalo is a contender.

Mario does do this from time to time but usually while he's taking on two blockers so his mates can do their thing.
 
Kubiak is a coach down in Texas
You know he knows just exactly what the cap is
He ain't gonna listen to richard justice
He makes his livin' off of the people's Texans

Mario in blue, whoa, whoa, he slipped away
Vince Young caught up to him the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They're not down south and they're still running today
Singin' go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
 
I was always skeptical of Mario's play. He'd show flashes of greatness, then fall a sleep for whole games.

Mario played his best football in the final year of his contract. Now that he's been paid, you won't see him again until the final year of this contract.

Good luck Bills, you're going to need it.
 
I caught some of the game late & Mario seemed very sluggish & unmotivated. Buffalo was within 2 scores & had about 5-6 minutes left. I guess he just shut it down early. I'm very disappointed, because I always liked him & couldn't fault him for accepting a $100+ million contract. However, I'm a firm believer in earning the money you're paid.
 
well, he ended his career with a big paycheck. the bills may flounder, but as long as they sell lamborghini's in new york, mario will be just fine.
 
Bills LE Mario Williams was held to a single tackle in his Buffalo debut.
Mario also got just one hit on Mark Sanchez, after Sanchez released the ball. Williams was "furious" after the game about the replacement refs' no-calls of alleged penalties by Jets RT Austin Howard. "Pass blocking doesn't include hands to the face," Williams said. "When someone tells the officials that, and they just walk away, or they don't call it, that is disheartening.
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http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3636/mario-williams
 
Hottoddie said:
I caught some of the game late & Mario seemed very sluggish & unmotivated. Buffalo was within 2 scores & had about 5-6 minutes left. I guess he just shut it down early. I'm very disappointed, because I always liked him & couldn't fault him for accepting a $100+ million contract. However, I'm a firm believer in earning the money you're paid.
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Are you talking about Albert???:spin:
 
He's filthy rich now, he isn't going to try hard ever again.

I always thought there was something a bit off about Mario. Sure, he never caused problems in Houston. He was chill. But yet he never really stood out, never seemed to make others better.

When was he ever helping out those around him, getting them in position and making them hustle up and stuff??? Instead, he looked like a Lone Ranger to me. Lone wolf.

So, no surprise that he gets a huge payday and goes AWOL in the first game. Bills fans are not going to be happy. He'll have some injury, and the story will be that "maybe Mario was just hurt and he'll come back stronger when he's healed up." Yeah, sure he will....
 
weve known mario isnt a game changer, he sprinkles in multi-sack games here and there. big games he disappears..
 
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kwayshauntay said:
Why bump a thread and pile on a guy that didn't even play today?

[okay so I stole that from a bills forum (: ]
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Why cause it shows we made the right decision to let him move on and that we see the same thing as we've always seem. A dominant physique and skillset that plays about 50% of the time, aka no heart.
 
silvrhand said:
http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/149773-100-million-dollar-mistake/page__st__40

Ouch lol..
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Oh, the horror...
Looks just like he did in the pre-season. Slow,out of shape. Take the money and run. Couldn`t beat a scrub lineman.Just start watching him giving up on plays.
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Ever wonder why the Texans did not resign him? Mario Williams is no Bruce Smith. He was a lamb today.
The entire defense was no better than last years defense. Our defense is a paper tiger.Useless, impotent,
no pass rush, we scare nobody, an utter**waste of a 100 million dollars.And Chan Gailey has said all along
that they are way ahead of the offense in training camp? What is he smoking? We were supposed to have the
most dominating defensive line in football. They played like choir girls!!! All of them!
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At this rate... 0 sacks, 16 tackles... $100 million seems worth it! :D
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Peter King's assessment on MMQB:

Goat of the Week
Mario Williams, DE, Buffalo.
You can excuse a preseason of no production, because no one cares about the preseason. But no team had the kind of crisis the Jets had at right tackle in the preseason, dumping starter Wayne Hunter in favor of the untested Austin Howard, and on Sunday, Williams got nothing done playing across from Howard. This much of nothing: one tackle, zero sacks, zero quarterback hits. A pathetic opening display for a man who will make $40 million over the first two years ($1.18 million for his no-show Sunday) of a six-year, $96 million deal.

Ouch.
 
GP said:
He's filthier richer now, he isn't going to try hard once again.

I always thought there was something a bit off about Mario. Sure, he never caused problems in Houston. He was chill. But yet he never really stood out, never seemed to make others better.

When was he ever helping out those around him, getting them in position and making them hustle up and stuff??? Instead, he looked like a Lone Ranger to me. Lone wolf.

So, no surprise that he gets a huge payday and goes AWOL in the first game. Bills fans are not going to be happy. He'll have some injury, and the story will be that "maybe Mario was just hurt and he'll come back stronger when he's healed up." Yeah, sure he will....
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Fixed it for ya. He was made filthy rich by the Texans.

And never say ever again

:marionaner:
 
Showtime100 said:
I hate to say this, but I'm glad to see it. It seemed to me the press thought very little of him for his entire tenure in Houston and the minute he goes to Buffalo it's HOLY CRAP Buffalo is a contender.

Mario does do this from time to time but usually while he's taking on two blockers so his mates can do their thing.
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I feel the same way(bolded statement). The media coverage bothered me more than it should have, but I'm glad to see Buffalo fan is getting to see the other side of this double-edged sword.
 
silvrhand said:
Why cause it shows we made the right decision to let him move on and that we see the same thing as we've always seem. A dominant physique and skillset that plays about 50% of the time, aka no heart.
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That's what I said about Mario the entire time he was here. Can't count the times Dale and I were either laughed at or spewed at for pointing out the obvious with Mario. He is going to really stink in Buffalo. They're going to be really bad for years, and he'll hate that cold weather over there. He'll be cut after his 3rd season there.
 
I wish Mario and the Bills all the best but like I said in the Jacoby Jones thread, a Zebra don't change his stripes. Mario is what he is, an overhyped talented player who doesn't always play up to his potential. He takes plays off and sometimes takes games off.
 
:facepalm: Bills Fan!

Posted by Billsnation2010
Are you kidding me, someone talks and you're brain washed after a game? LOL If I am not mistaken he was drafted #1 overall by a poor Houston Texans Defensive team, he was it with a bunch of ok guys. They built that defense around Mario Williams, they became great because of him. He has not played in almost a season, ok he is making what 96 M to play like a madman I understand that but you are not paying him are you? So let things play out before we go calling this anything more than a guy trying to get his sea legs back.
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Yo dumbass, the defense wasn't good until that "almost a season" he didn't play...
 
I'm guessing the Bills fan base isn't the most intelligent in the league:

Originally Posted by FloridaGatorsBuffaloBills
To be fair, this is the first live action he's seen in nearly 13 months. I don't expect guys to come back in game ready shape after missing 11 games last year.
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Didn't Marion go out in the 5th game of the season?? Obvioulsy, but wouldn't that be less than even 12 months ago??? :thinking:
 
Texan_Bill said:
I'm guessing the Bills fan base isn't the most intelligent in the league:



Didn't Marion go out in the 5th game of the season?? Obvioulsy, but wouldn't that be less than even 12 months ago??? :thinking:
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You need to understand that Buffalo is much further north than we are, which means that their rotation period around the sun is longer than ours. Ergo, from Oct 2011 to Sept 2011 may only be 11 months for us, but it is 13 months for them. :toropalm:





:sarcasm: for those who missed it.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
You need to understand that Buffalo is much further north than we are, which means that their rotation period around the sun is longer than ours. Ergo, from Oct 2011 to Sept 2011 may only be 11 months for us, but it is 13 months for them. :toropalm:





:sarcasm: for those who missed it.
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To be fair.. watching a game, waiting for MW to earn his paycheck can feel like an eternity, thus the time continuum factor can feasibly stretch 11 months into 13, just from a single game. Remember... Us Texans fans have had 6 seasons to adjust to this. Poor Bills fans.. they know not what they do.
 
Is Mario becoming the next Hainesworth? Big signing, no show on the turf! Sucks when they hit pay dirt and "retire" mentally. Bills fans are using excuses because they are afraid his big contract, will suck a lot of cap $ for future contracts. Its a make or break on his signing. So far...not good.
 
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