TexansBull
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That’s not true. He got along with Slowik.
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Slowik and the offense
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That’s not true. He got along with Slowik.
That's not what LZ Said or for that matter CJ's body language on the sidelines this yr said.
What makes you think they got along.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Zierlein said Slowik got in CJs face. CJ returned the favor.
Then Demeco had to do damage control to get CJ to agree to get drafted for Texans.
CJ was adult and mature enough to reconsider.
Season One no issues. Winning. Everyone big happy family.
Season Two when Slowik’s offense couldn’t block or score in the second half is when problems happened. Slowik lost the locker room. That’s on Slowik.
How many times when the Texans lost you heard a player say - “We need to game plan better?” I heard it quite a few and commented here about it. Now we know why. Slowik was a dead man walking in the middle of the season.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
You’re not comprehending. The dispute isn’t whether this person told you something that was true or not. It’s whether u chose to believe it and then make up your own biased conclusions off that..b/c you already had a bias beforehand. So unless there's more you know about CJ that you aren't telling.....Based off this 1 story you heard from your "source" you came up with all these biased conclusions:
CJ needs to grow up
CJ's not a leader
CJ has problems with his OC's.
That is the issue. Mind you there were 2 people involved in the situation....but you only have takes on the 1 you guy you already low key had it out for b/c he's a client of another guy you don't like.
Slowik was a dead man walking the minute CJ was drafted.
I was surprised they had successful rookie yrs together. Imagine if you were on an interview and the interviewer said something you didn't like and you acted like CJ did, what do you think the chances of you being hired would be. Well upper mgmt demanded that a QB be taken and the rest is history.
Look at the crying (feel free to disagree with me)
Leaders dont pout, they act more like Mixon and less like CJ.
0-2 on OC's and counting.
Feel free to disagree with me.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol....based on what CJ did in college, he was probably on point to have "issues" with 1 of his OC's there if that's even true..which im sure probably isn't...espcially if u keep bringing it up. I mean Look at all this..
C.J. spent three years with the program and was one of the top quarterbacks in the nation in 2021 and 2022
• A two-time Heisman Trophy finalist and Ohio State’s only two-time finalist (finalists were first named by the Heisman Trophy Trust in 1982)
• A two-time Big Ten Conference offensive player of the year and a two-time Big Ten quarterback of the year
• Also named Big Ten freshman of the year for a total of five Big Ten individual awards to tie for second all-time in conference history with Justin Fields and Orlando Pace and behind only Braxton Miller’s seven
• Second-team All-American in 2022 by Walter Camp Foundation, CBS Sports and American Football Coaches Association after earning third-team honors in 2021 (Associated Press) along with freshman All-America laurels (The Athletic)
• A finalist in 2022 for Walter Camp Player of the Year, the Maxwell Award and the Dave O’Brien Award
• 21-4 as an Ohio State starter
• Directed Ohio State to No. 9 ranking nationally in total offense (490.7 ypg) and No. 2 in scoring (44.2 ppg) as a third-year sophomore in 2022
• Led the best offense in the nation as a freshman in 2021 with Ohio State No. 1 nationally in total offense (561.5) and scoring offense (45.7) while also finishing No. 2 in passing efficiency and and No. 3 in passing offense (380.9 ypg)
• Set 16 Ohio State passing and total offense records and an additional three Big Ten records: season passing yards (3,193) and season TD passes (34) in Big Ten games only in 2021; career pass efficiency (182.39)
• Led the nation in pass efficiency rating in 2022 (177.7) and was second in 2021 (186.6)
• Ranked second nationally in TD passes in 2022 (41) and third in 2021 (44)
• The first QB in Big Ten history to have back-to-back seasons with 30 or more touchdown passes
• His school records include single game yards (573 in 2021 vs. Utah); single game touchdown passes (6 two times vs. Michigan State and also vs. Utah); season completion percentage (71.9 in 2021); season (369.6 in 2021) and career passing yards per game (290.1); season and career 300-yard games (9 in 2021; and 15); season and career 400-yard passing games (5 ini 2021); season and career passer efficiency rating (186.6 in 2021; and 182.39); consecutive pass completions (17 vs. Michigan State in 2021); and most games vs. Big Ten teams with five or more TD passes (seven)
• Total offense records include single game total offense (583 in 2021 vs. Utah); average total offensive yards for a season (367.9) and career (294.9)
• Set five Rose Bowl game records vs. Utah: 573 passing yards; six touchdown passes; 583 yards of total offense; TDs (6); and points (36) responsible for
• Spectacular against No. 1 Georgia in 2022 Peach Bowl with 348 passing yards, four TDs, no interceptions and 71 rushing yards in a last-second, 42-41 defeat, with none of his Top 5 weapons (Marvin Harrison Jr., Jaxon Smith-Njigba, TreVeyon Henderson, Miyan Williams and Cade Stover) available for either the game or second half
• Honored five times as Big Ten’s offensive player of the week and seven times in 2021 as freshman of the week
• A two-time Maxwell Award National Player of the Week in 2022: following six-TD, 361-yard game vs. Michigan State and also after five-TD, 297-yard game vs. Indiana
• Named Walter Camp National Player of the Week Nov. 21, 2021 after a spectacular first half against No. 7 Michigan State when he completed 29 of 31 passes for 393 yards and a school record-tying six touchdowns
• The first Ohio State quarterback to throw five TD passes without an interception in back to back games (2021 vs. Rutgers and Maryland)
• Topped those 10 TDs in consecutive games without an interception by throwing 11 TD passes without an interception vs. nationally ranked Purdue and Michigan State, including a school record-tying six vs.
Look at his 1st 2 years in the NFL LEADING his team to the playoffs & winning a playoff game..
Look at how his own teammates & peers look up to him having him ranked as the 20th best player in the league as a rookie...
Look at Slowik in the unemployment line........still.
Get out of here bro.
Texansballer74
The Marine
He got along with all of his college coaches too.
Texansballer74
The Marine
CJ didn’t have any issues with his college OC. The coaches over there said CJ was very coachable and that he got along with every last one of them. I posted a tweet last night and dude ignored it.
CJ didn’t have any issues at all
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yeah b/c being interviewed for 8 dollars an hour at McDonalds where there are a million + folks who could do the job they're hiring for is the same as being interviewed for a job that pays you millions where there aren't a even 32 people in the world who can do it as well as you can currently.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
If I was in an interview and the interviewer got in my face like Slowik did I would have the same reaction and get back in their face and be ready to throw hands.
Plenty of other places that could use my talent that I could go work for.
But guess what - upper management knew of my skills and had one of the top executives come begging for me to reconsider.
So I said Ok.
Exactly! If I'm in an interview and I'm telling a potential employer how I did something at another company to demonstrate my knowledge and they dropped, "I don't give a F*** what you did at that other company", that's an immediate red flag and a disqualifier for working with that person or company.
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Then that’s called taking all information being delivered with 3rd, 4th, etc parties with a grain of salt.
Reminds me of that whole 1938 Orson Wells, War of the Worlds broadcast….sure had folks coming out of their skin in fear, but it was just a story.
BTW. Did anyone from the 49ers come along to coach besides Slowik? Isn't it odd that with all of these teams running this Shanny/Kubiak scheme, they hired an OL coach who was unfamiliar with the scheme?
Maybe Bobby has some insecurity issues. Just saying...
It's hilarious that Adam Schefter is being used as an example of insider information. Many people in the media despises Schefter because he is a useful tool for agents, players and teams. In return for favors, regardless of the veracity, he will spread whatever they want to get out to the public.
"Adam Schefter of ESPN.com reports that Carroll wants back in. Which means, frankly, that Carroll’s agent has specifically told this to Schefter in the hopes that Schefter would broadcast it to the world, in the hopes of generating public opinion. Then, Carroll’s agent will owe Schefter big time.
It’s one thing to express authentic and organic and unsolicited opinions, like we did recently when questioning whether Brian Flores’s lawsuit against the NFL and multiple teams will stand in the way of a second head-coaching opportunity. It’s another thing to let your strings be pulled by “sources” (probably only one source, but making it plural always sounds better) who want to get their back scratched — and who will return the favor, possibly many times over."
Pete Carroll wants another NFL head-coaching job
Last year, the Seahawks unceremoniously kicked head coach Pete Carroll to the curb.
www.nbcsports.com
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Did you hear the part where Zierlein said that Slowik was a "by the book coordinator" who didn't really have a "feel" for the Shanahan scheme that other coordinators have?
badboy
Hall of Fame
wait... what? I thought the cold germs killed the Martians??
What's your point?
Truth is like Derrick we will never agree. I'm not willing to spend time debating like I did with Derrick
Neither one of you guys answered my question. If you acted like CJ did during that interview would you be hired, regardless of how the interviewer acted?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Brian Johnson (Eagles OC) would be a nice interview.
Former Eagles OC, now Commanders QB coach. Johnson's one season as the Eagles coordinator was controversial. Fans and media questioning play calls, questions regarding who was actually calling the plays, and the strange love/hate triangle between Johnson/Hurts/Nick Sirianni. All the while, the Eagles had a top 10 scoring and yardage offense.
Johnson also coached Dak Prescott at Mississippi State. He's been around a lot of successful QBs. Has play calling experience, is young (37), and has been with successful teams. Checks a lot of boxes.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Oh but if he had Saquin Barkley he would still be their OC.
Barkley is a problem solver.
Porky
Hall of Fame
He wasn’t fired. His contract expired (I think) and he’s still a being considered as part of a new staff as OL coach.
That’s not me agreeing with that last part…just reporting what I have heard and read.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Are you equating a job interview to a pre-draft interview? Not sure that's as apples to apples as you are making it out to.
You are being interviewed by your potential future bosses in both situations, correct? Seems pretty apples to apples to me.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
I can tell a future boss, thanks but no thanks; for the most part a draftee cannot. That's a fairly significant difference between interviewing for a job and being interviewed to be drafted
A potential draftee can get up and walk out of an interview, just like a potential employee can get up and walk out on an interview.
Cj has definitely not earned this. He had a good year & a fools gold year. We don't know who this kid is.
Doesn't matter what I think about him crying like a bch.. or what steelbtexan or djohn2oo8.
Hopefully it's a motivational chip for the guy. We'll see who he is soon enough.
Makes me wonder what kind of bs y'all would come up with if we drafted Sanchez
Or Gabbert.
I'm hoping he grows up & man up.
I didn't know how to put this into wordsCj has definitely not earned this. He had a good year & a fools gold year. We don't know who this kid is.
Doesn't matter what I think about him crying like a bch.. or what steelbtexan or djohn2oo8.
Hopefully it's a motivational chip for the guy. We'll see who he is soon enough.
Makes me wonder what kind of bs y'all would come up with if we drafted Sanchez
Or Gabbert.
Great post
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Facts
badboy
Hall of Fame
End of this week..I would think we would have heard "Chip Kelly scheduled for interview next [fill in a date].
I am thinking that a private call has been made and Kelly said not interested.
I know I went "CJ Ohio State, first round draft picks Egbuka receiver and offensive tackle Josh Simmons Ohio State..." hmm
I think we might have helped Kelly and his oline coach Frye get raises.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
You know when the Texans wanted Caserio Cal flew on the company jet to go get him.
If we wanted Chip Kelly I would fire up the jet and talk to him in person vs a phone call.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Yes, but a potential employee walking out of an interview never has to deal with that person again, a draftee might and that's a significant difference.
That was back when we had men of action in the FO like Easterby.
Yeah... if Kelly is out I'm sure they're going internal. JJ will be OC, Pop will be OL coach (which I don't have a problem with) & Case will be our QB coach.... I think Cj would actually like this if he can't get Kelly or Day.
badboy
Hall of Fame
If so, it adds in my opinion a slight increase of concern for 2025.
Huge point!