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Schaub injured (update)

fiasco west said:
Best case scenario from today.

-Matt is only out for 6-7 weeks. Coming back right in time for playoffs.
-The other Matt plays great during that period. His trade value would be pretty high.
-Texans have a tough decision to make...

I still have a lot of faith in this team.

As long as Foster stays healthy along with Cushing, D.Brown, Myers, Winston, J.Joseph...

This team is loaded with talent guys. They are not going to fall off the cliff, if they can survive Andre going out they can survive Matt going out.
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It's weird, with our revamped defense and strong running game, we've made almost a 180 degree turnaround from a couple years ago.
 
So is anyone going to ask why Kubiak had Schaub in the game when we are up by 4 scores? Seems like it should have been done by now...
 
fiasco west said:
Best case scenario from today.

-Matt is only out for 6-7 weeks. Coming back right in time for playoffs.
-The other Matt plays great during that period. His trade value would be pretty high.
-Texans have a tough decision to make...

I still have a lot of faith in this team.

As long as Foster stays healthy along with Cushing, D.Brown, Myers, Winston, J.Joseph...

This team is loaded with talent guys. They are not going to fall off the cliff, if they can survive Andre going out they can survive Matt going out.
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I see were you are going but quite frankly QB>>>>>WR. It is what it is. I just hope that Leinart seizes the opportunity.
 
I have no idea who the hell Lis or Frank is but they just ruined my freaking week!

First Arian pulls a hammy on the first practice and takes a while to get back to form.

Then Mario has a freak injury just reaching out his arm for the QB.

Then AJ gets injured for half the damn season by just running. Wasn't even touched.

And now Schaub breaks his foot on a QB sneak? I didn't like the call then, and I like it a lot less now! I know hindsight is 20/20 but I actually wanted a play fake there.

WTF? You ^#@$!@ Football Gods. I swear if I ever meet one of these football Gods, we're going to go 12 rounds mano e mano.

Leinart sucks. Plain and simple. If it's one or two games we have enough in the run game and d to potentially win, and we might get to 10 or possibly even 11 with Leinart with a weak schedule, but come playoff time we'll be rolled in game 1. No way in hell do we win a game in the playoffs with Matt L.

Wake up Porky, it's only a nightmare. :overreact::kubepalm::wadepalm:

:overreact:
 
sometexansfan said:
Call Brett Fav....errrr nevermind. :backsout:
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Austrian said:
I see were you are going but quite frankly QB>>>>>WR. It is what it is. I just hope that Leinart seizes the opportunity.
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I am a big proponent of players having a impact no matter where they play. If they play great at that position you will miss them. Texans will miss Andre, Andre will add a lot to this team no matter who is under center no less a former heisman winning top 5 pick at QB that has worked under so-called guru Kubes.

Not devaluing the impact of a QB, but the Texans have a lot of playmakers. If Carr could make Andre a threat in the passing game, Leinart should not have no problem doing the same...especially with possibly the leagues best Oline and Running game.
 
Thorn said:
It's Houston. There's something cosmically unaligned about this place.
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I thought I had reached a point of not believing in voodoo, superstitions, or curses.

But now I see that I was only denying reality. :worm:
 
I say we cut off Schaub's leg with the injured foot and replace it with one of those prosthetic ones that the guys from the Special Olympics wear. I would take that over Leinart.
 
From the front page of NFL.com:

Kubiak said Schaub suffered the injury when his foot got caught in a pileup on a first-half quarterback sneak coming out of the Texans' end zone. Schaub did not exit the game, however, both of his touchdown passes came in the first half as the Texans relied on their running game over the final two quarters.
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I hated that freakin' series and that call when it happened, and I really freakin' hate it now. When it started, I said "OK, over a minute and a half left; let's do a 2-min drill and get a TD". So hand off, sneak, handoff. Yeah. The only real blemish on an otherwise great game, and now we find out it's a really bad blemish.

**** you, Kubiak.
 
Rey said:
Damn...This is shocking...

Hopefully Leinart shines and we can trade him to some QB hungry team in the off-season or just keep him as a great ins policy...
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How long is Lienart signed for?
 
eriadoc said:
From the front page of NFL.com:



I hated that freakin' series and that call when it happened, and I really freakin' hate it now. When it started, I said "OK, over a minute and a half left; let's do a 2-min drill and get a TD". So hand off, sneak, handoff. Yeah. The only real blemish on an otherwise great game, and now we find out it's a really bad blemish.

**** you, Kubiak.
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They were on the half yard line, got lucky to not get tackled for a safety, and were up only 6-0. How could you argue with that call?! This is the NFL. Injuries happen. Dumb luck. Not Kubiak's fault for an injury.
 
Dutchrudder said:
So is anyone going to ask why Kubiak had Schaub in the game when we are up by 4 scores? Seems like it should have been done by now...
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They're saying Matt broke his foot at the end of the 2nd Qtr... he played the second half with a broken foot.
 
TEXANS84 said:
LisFranc injury is what Schefter has heard he has.
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Christ, I hope not.
A Lisfranc (midfoot) injury is a significant injury that often has a prolonged recovery time. Fracture of the midfoot bones and/or disruption of the midfoot ligaments (Figure 1) leads to pain, swelling, and often an inability to weight-bear. During normal standing and walking the ligaments of the midfoot are subject to forces that are 2-3 times body weight. These ligaments and bones must heal before normal walking can occur and this often takes a number of months.
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Link
 
a little good news
Kubiak: Danieal Manning is making great progress and should contribute before season is over.
 
thunderkyss said:
They're saying Matt broke his foot at the end of the 2nd Qtr... he played the second half with a broken foot.
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I see that now.


So here's the series from ESPN:

Houston Texans at 1:39 HOU TAM
1st and 10 at HOU 5 A.Foster left guard to HST 8 for 3 yards (A.Haynesworth). PENALTY on HST-C.Myers, Offensive Holding, 2 yards, enforced at HST 5 - No Play.
1st and 12 at HOU 3 A.Foster right tackle to HST 1 for -2 yards (M.Bennett).
Timeout #2 by TB at 01:31.
2nd and 14 at HOU 1 M.Schaub up the middle to HST 2 for 1 yard (A.Haynesworth).
Timeout #3 by TB at 01:27.
3rd and 13 at HOU 2 A.Foster up the middle to HST 4 for 2 yards (A.Haynesworth, G.Hayes).

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=311113027&period=2

Looks like Haynesworth was the guy who did it...
 
For some reason I'm feeling optimistic about Leinart being the starter. Something tells me that he's not going to flop now that he's been given a 2nd chance as a starter. I actually think he's going to look good out there.

Doesn't hurt that he gets Andre Johnson back.
 
TexanFan881 said:
They were on the half yard line, got lucky to not get tackled for a safety, and were up only 6-0. How could you argue with that call?! This is the NFL. Injuries happen. Dumb luck. Not Kubiak's fault for an injury.
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They were not on the yard line when the drive began, and I thought it would have been a perfect time for a pass on 1st down.
 
Even if Leinart pans out ok, I think we are missing the bigger problem:


Eric Winston is now our blindside tackle in pass protection.


To me that spells trouble more than anything else.










Troll/facepalm post of the day (hopefully century):


Anyone know if Carr is available....:kitten::kubepalm:
 
eriadoc said:
They were not on the yard line when the drive began, and I thought it would have been a perfect time for a pass on 1st down.
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wasn't it when Arian almost got stopped for a safety and he reached over the line? Next play Schaub ran a qb sneak?
 
OMG this sucks.

If you could have picked the one player we couldn't afford to lose, Schaub was it.
 
This news was a TREMENDOUS blow to me. It came out of nowhere. I knew I heard somethin about a walking boot but I didn't pay too much mind to it. But when this news just got back to me it feels like someone punched me dead in my stomach. I can't believe it. Some people may hate on Schaub but he is a key element.

But looking on a positive side if things:

We have arguably the best running back duo in the league. Both backs on the verge of going over 1,000 yards. Our WHOLE O-Line should make the Pro Bowl. Andre is on the way back and the number ONE defense in the league! STINGY defense!

It's another injury test we have to pass. Arian was out but we got through. We lost Andre and Mario and we got through on BOTH sides of the ball. Andre is on the way back then we lose Schaub. We'll pass this test too. This can be a time that Matt Leinart can prove himself and possibly save his career. He was supposed to be somebody in the league if I'm correct. Let's just pray for the best and a speedy recovery.

Go Texans. 7-3
 
TheCD said:
Even if Leinart pans out ok, I think we are missing the bigger problem:


Eric Winston is now our blindside tackle in pass protection.
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Brown and Winston may switch positions... a lot of teams typically do this with lefties. Whether or not they can implement such a change in 2 weeks, that's another story.
 
reposting this because it was the last one of the page and probably will get missed

1st-10, HOU5 1:39 Houston committed 2 yard penalty
1st-12, HOU3 1:36 A. Foster rushed to the right for 2 yard loss
2nd-14, HOU1 1:31 M. Schaub rushed up the middle for 1 yard gain
3rd-13, HOU2 1:27 A. Foster rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain
4th-11, HOU4 0:28 B. Hartmann punt. P. Parker returned punt for 11 yards
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20111113027&page=plays
 
Well this should make a ton of posters in here very happy since so many folks have wanted Matt Schaub sent packing. You guys that hate Matt Schaub are getting your wish now, and you're going to see what the Texans look like without a top 10 QB.
 
TheCD said:
Even if Leinart pans out ok, I think we are missing the bigger problem:


Eric Winston is now our blindside tackle in pass protection.


To me that spells trouble more than anything else.










Troll/facepalm post of the day (hopefully century):


Anyone know if Carr is available....:kitten::kubepalm:
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Actually.....this is the best point made so far in this thread and has taken away most of my optimism...

Forgot that Leinart is a lefty...
 
The thought of Leinart taking the field makes me queasy. Would the league let Schaub play using one of those Rascal Scooters?
 
Why why why!?

Is this a joke? This SUCKS!!!

Hey Houston, you are 7-3 and going into a bye week, time to lose another one of your best players not to mention your starting QB.

I really hope he can be back in time for the playoffs and Leinart comes up big in the mean time.
 
Fortunately our division is pretty weak. Even with Schaub out, we should still be able to handle Jacksonville, Indy, and Tennessee. We have a pretty simple schedule left and we still have an awesome rushing attack. Hopefully Leinart can manage the game well.

It's gonna be a long two weeks until we find out what Leinart can actually do.
 
Texecutioner said:
Well this should make a ton of posters in here very happy since so many folks have wanted Matt Schaub sent packing. You guys that hate Matt Schaub are getting your wish now, and you're going to see what the Texans look like without a top 10 QB.
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Again, I don't think that's what the Anti-Schaub group was proposing. They knew how important he was to the team this year, and were more worried about long term.

Obviously, if Schaub were to be sent packing, another QB would already be here to take his place.
 
brakos82 said:
Brown and Winston may switch positions... a lot of teams typically do this with lefties. Whether or not they can implement such a change in 2 weeks, that's another story.
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I have a pretty good deal of faith that the offensive minds can scheme well enough to handle the switch to a lefty.
 
On the bright side, the schedule still isn't very difficult and if Leinart can at least be average we'll still win the division.

I think Leinart will surprise people, he's no Schaub but i don't think he was given a fair shake in Arizona and think he'll be out to prove he can be a good QB in this league.

Think of it like USC. Foster, Tate at running back, Andre at wide receiver, an abundance of tight ends and solid possession receivers.

If he plays within the offense like he did at USC we can win with him.
 
Jacoby was just now learning how to catch the ball with a clockwise rotation.. now what is he going to do when the ball is spinning counterclockwise

:kubepalm:

:kitten::bender:
 
brakos82 said:
Brown and Winston may switch positions... a lot of teams typically do this with lefties. Whether or not they can implement such a change in 2 weeks, that's another story.
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Line play is my weak area, so I don't know that much. But I have read that linemen tend to like to play to a side that feels more natural to them. Don't know if that would change swapping the tackles, but I can see how pass blocking a guy coming from your right would be miles different than from your left in terms of how you're using your body to combat bull rushes/swim moves/etc.
 
TdotTexas2Step said:
Again, I don't think that's what the Anti-Schaub group was proposing. They knew how important he was to the team this year, and were more worried about long term.

Obviously, if Schaub were to be sent packing, another QB would already be here to take his place.
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I don't remember it being that way at all a few weeks ago. I remember several threads where Schaub was blatantly bashed and discussions centered around the idea that he was a choker and how we needed to draft a new QB in the next season.

Well, now people can see what this team is like without the guy and quite possibly they'll learn to appreciate him even though he isn't some high end clutch guy or elite QB. Or maybe they'll love the new team without him. Only time will tell, but Leinart will be the guy that dictates those decisions unfortunately.
 
Kubes needs to take notes from Denver....

If the QB can't throw, don't let him!
I think we can run the option/veer or wishbone....
 
We should have collectively felt this coming as Houston football fans.

7-3 is a historic record with this franchise. It was too good to be true for long. :shades:
 
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