No... especially later in the draft I think the GM has more say in the pick. I'm saying those guys aren't on the team because Kubiak didn't like them, for whatever reason. A different coach & those guys could be on their way to a nice NFL career.
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No... especially later in the draft I think the GM has more say in the pick. I'm saying those guys aren't on the team because Kubiak didn't like them, for whatever reason. A different coach & those guys could be on their way to a nice NFL career.
Interesting take. Why do you think the GM has more or less control later in the draft? What gave you the impression that Kubiak didn't like those guys?
I'm just curious because neither thought ever crossed my mind
I think the GM & Scouts have more say later in the draft, because the coaches are too busy coaching during the season to be watching/scouting college players. They can only cram so much in from now to the draft.
& I just got the impression that Trevardo & Sam were in the doghouse from day 1.
Edelman is a decent receiver, I even had him on my fantasy team, but if you look at his stats for this past season they look a lot like A.J.'s
Edelman - 92 catches, 972 yds, 10.6 yds/catch, 4 TDs, 5 fumbles
Johnson - 86 catches, 936, 11 yds/catch, 3 TDs, 3 fumbles
Not too different.
But then factor in AJ had a cast of whodats trying to get him the ball and Edelman had the best QB (and the best coach) in the NFL.
I guess my question is: Is Edelman really all that good or is it Brady and the system? Makes me wonder what Brady and that system could have done with a young Andre Johnson?
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Routine has helped Texans QB Tom Savage's development
HOUSTON -- By the time the text message arrived, Houston Texansquarterback Tom Savage had already powered his hardy truck past the flooded streets that surrounded his apartment and was halfway to NRG Stadium.
Stay off the roads, practice is canceled, was the message sent last Tuesday morning. But Savage had already ignored the warnings of people who saw him heading to his truck, unaware of the extent of the flooding. He was determined to get to the Texans' facility and stay true to his routine.
Brian Hoyer said. "It really asks a lot of the quarterback. I think he’s made, from what I’ve seen on the cutups of film from last year to where he is now, to having conversations with him, his knowledge of the offense has gotten so much better. ...
"When you come into this system as a rookie, a lot is thrown at you and you’re just swimming. The best thing you can do is try to just hang on, survive, and learn."
That was essentially all Savage could do in his one bit of game action last season. He entered a most important game of the Texans' season -- a road contest against the Indianapolis Colts -- in the second quarter when Ryan Fitzpatrick broke his leg. Savage had a total QBR of just 13 and even struggled to make hand-offs. As the game progressed, Savage improved, but he suffered a hyperextended knee that ended his season.
"I’ve watched that game probably over 50 times," Savage said. "It still kind of haunts me a little bit. Not saying I’m happy I went through it that way -- I would’ve loved to get the win -- but it was good to get out there and see what it’s like."
Savage is quick to emphasize he has a lot to learn, but he's worked on a lot, too in the months since he last played. Timing is a big part of a quarterback's success in this offense. He focused this offseason on his footwork, on seeing his receivers better and enabling his mental clock to release the ball quicker.
"This offense, there’s always someone open," he said. "It’s our job to find them."
This offseason has been about learning, fixing and improving. Some of that was working at the Fischer Institute in Phoenix, where he sought the advice of quarterbacks like Drew Stanton and Carson Palmer. Part of their advice was to develop a routine.
So every morning Savage sets an alarm for 4:15 a.m. He wakes up his fiancée for just a moment, then lets her go back to bed as he heads off for work. He plays with his cat, has some coffee, then heads to the facility. He arrives there about 5:15 usually, gets some time in the hot tub and fills up his iPad with film he's already seen a lot of before having some breakfast. Then he heads to the meeting room, usually with Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, to watch more film for about an hour and a half.
"I think it's been a really, really big jump for me," Savage said. "From a confidence standpoint, I’m a lot more confident. I think I’m more vocal in the huddle, louder. The guys on our team helped me out. They helped me build up my confidence. ... I’ve got a lot to improve on, but for now that’s in the right direction."
Stay off the roads, practice is canceled, was the message sent last Tuesday morning. But Savage had already ignored the warnings of people who saw him heading to his truck, unaware of the extent of the flooding. He was determined to get to the Texans' facility and stay true to his routine.
Brian Hoyer said. "It really asks a lot of the quarterback. I think he’s made, from what I’ve seen on the cutups of film from last year to where he is now, to having conversations with him, his knowledge of the offense has gotten so much better. ...
"When you come into this system as a rookie, a lot is thrown at you and you’re just swimming. The best thing you can do is try to just hang on, survive, and learn."
That was essentially all Savage could do in his one bit of game action last season. He entered a most important game of the Texans' season -- a road contest against the Indianapolis Colts -- in the second quarter when Ryan Fitzpatrick broke his leg. Savage had a total QBR of just 13 and even struggled to make hand-offs. As the game progressed, Savage improved, but he suffered a hyperextended knee that ended his season.
"I’ve watched that game probably over 50 times," Savage said. "It still kind of haunts me a little bit. Not saying I’m happy I went through it that way -- I would’ve loved to get the win -- but it was good to get out there and see what it’s like."
Savage is quick to emphasize he has a lot to learn, but he's worked on a lot, too in the months since he last played. Timing is a big part of a quarterback's success in this offense. He focused this offseason on his footwork, on seeing his receivers better and enabling his mental clock to release the ball quicker.
"This offense, there’s always someone open," he said. "It’s our job to find them."
This offseason has been about learning, fixing and improving. Some of that was working at the Fischer Institute in Phoenix, where he sought the advice of quarterbacks like Drew Stanton and Carson Palmer. Part of their advice was to develop a routine.
So every morning Savage sets an alarm for 4:15 a.m. He wakes up his fiancée for just a moment, then lets her go back to bed as he heads off for work. He plays with his cat, has some coffee, then heads to the facility. He arrives there about 5:15 usually, gets some time in the hot tub and fills up his iPad with film he's already seen a lot of before having some breakfast. Then he heads to the meeting room, usually with Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, to watch more film for about an hour and a half.
"I think it's been a really, really big jump for me," Savage said. "From a confidence standpoint, I’m a lot more confident. I think I’m more vocal in the huddle, louder. The guys on our team helped me out. They helped me build up my confidence. ... I’ve got a lot to improve on, but for now that’s in the right direction."
cland
Rookie
I've always held the notion that 2016 will be the year Savage takes over the 2nd-round spot, and begins competing for the starting job. Beyond just effectively running the offense, the biggest thing I'd like to see is his ability to look off the safeties. He's got a great arm but has to have the discipline to go though his reads without staring down his primary target, and to have the confidence to get the ball out on time.
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Savage: ‘I Don’t Want To Do What I Did Last Year’
It’s pretty clear Tom Savage wants to improve on his rookie season. The 2014 fourth-round pick got his only extensive action of the season on December 14 with Ryan Mallett out and then Ryan Fitzpatrick getting hurt early that day against the Colts.
Needless to say, it wasn’t pretty. Savage was 10-19 for 127 yards, an interception, and he fumbled twice, losing one of those fumbles.
This season, even with Mallett and Brian Hoyer probably the clear-cut top two quarterbacks, Savage is determined to be better prepared.
“I’ve been in that position last year,” Savage said. “A guy breaks his leg and Mallett gets hurt. You get thrown in there with the dogs and I don’t want to do what I did last year.”
While it’s still early with OTA’s in its second week, his coaches and teammates are noticing a difference.
“I think he’s made a lot of progress,” Bill O’Brien said. “I think that, from the end of the season to where we are now, I think the guy’s done a good job.
“I see a guy that’s arriving in the building at 5:30 in the morning,” the Texans head coach added. “He’s one of the first guys to get here. He’s watching extra tape. It’s showing up on the field. It’s not always pretty, just like with every player, but I see a guy that’s made a lot of progress. And I will tell you that, as a coaching staff, we’re encouraged with how we’ve seen Tom progress.”
O’Brien raved about Savage’s knowledge, how it’s translated into more understanding as to when he needs to get rid of the football.
“Last year, I was kind of swimming in it,” Savage said. “I’m not saying that it’s easy now. I’m still trying to put the work in. I’m still trying to grasp a lot of knowledge out of this offense, but at the same time, it’s been good so far. Year Two, I think, has been a pretty big difference for myself, just (from) a confidence standpoint and being around the guys and understanding the schemes and what we’re trying to do.”
That confidence is felt all around.
“Last year, he was fumbling snaps, little stuff,” C.J. Fiedorowicz said. “Whether it was guys who were breaking hot and he didn’t see the hot coming. Yeah, just the confidence. He got a little bit of (playing time) in the Colts game, but he stuck around in the offseason, studied the playbook, and you can really tell it’s paying off.”
“This year, I actually know what’s going on out there,” Savage said. “I know the routes, instead of dropping back and figuring out what everyone is doing at the same time and then trying to figure out what the defense is doing. I think it’s more just playing the game and just trying to put the ball in those guys’ hands.”
Needless to say, it wasn’t pretty. Savage was 10-19 for 127 yards, an interception, and he fumbled twice, losing one of those fumbles.
This season, even with Mallett and Brian Hoyer probably the clear-cut top two quarterbacks, Savage is determined to be better prepared.
“I’ve been in that position last year,” Savage said. “A guy breaks his leg and Mallett gets hurt. You get thrown in there with the dogs and I don’t want to do what I did last year.”
While it’s still early with OTA’s in its second week, his coaches and teammates are noticing a difference.
“I think he’s made a lot of progress,” Bill O’Brien said. “I think that, from the end of the season to where we are now, I think the guy’s done a good job.
“I see a guy that’s arriving in the building at 5:30 in the morning,” the Texans head coach added. “He’s one of the first guys to get here. He’s watching extra tape. It’s showing up on the field. It’s not always pretty, just like with every player, but I see a guy that’s made a lot of progress. And I will tell you that, as a coaching staff, we’re encouraged with how we’ve seen Tom progress.”
O’Brien raved about Savage’s knowledge, how it’s translated into more understanding as to when he needs to get rid of the football.
“Last year, I was kind of swimming in it,” Savage said. “I’m not saying that it’s easy now. I’m still trying to put the work in. I’m still trying to grasp a lot of knowledge out of this offense, but at the same time, it’s been good so far. Year Two, I think, has been a pretty big difference for myself, just (from) a confidence standpoint and being around the guys and understanding the schemes and what we’re trying to do.”
That confidence is felt all around.
“Last year, he was fumbling snaps, little stuff,” C.J. Fiedorowicz said. “Whether it was guys who were breaking hot and he didn’t see the hot coming. Yeah, just the confidence. He got a little bit of (playing time) in the Colts game, but he stuck around in the offseason, studied the playbook, and you can really tell it’s paying off.”
“This year, I actually know what’s going on out there,” Savage said. “I know the routes, instead of dropping back and figuring out what everyone is doing at the same time and then trying to figure out what the defense is doing. I think it’s more just playing the game and just trying to put the ball in those guys’ hands.”
If he actually knows the offense, I'm impressed.
In the preseason he'll be running our system with a bunch of guys who will mess up because they'll still be trying to learn multiple positions. I wonder on what scale he'll be judged.
Once the season starts he'll be running the scout team again.
In the preseason he'll be running our system with a bunch of guys who will mess up because they'll still be trying to learn multiple positions. I wonder on what scale he'll be judged.
Once the season starts he'll be running the scout team again.
eriadoc
Texan-American
I'll take it easy on him at first. I just want to see him complete handoffs to the same level of success that other QBs do. Then we'll progress to the passing game.
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QB Tom Savage
(on what he has focused on this offseason) “Really just kind of familiarizing myself with this offense and really just trying to put some work in and grasp it. So if my time ever does come again, I’ll be ready.”
(on his first couple of practices) “I mean, I think I have a lot to work on, but at the same time, I’m really coming in early and trying to put as much work in as I can. Hopefully, just keep growing.”
(on the difference between last year and this year) “I think this year I kind of developed more of a routine in how I prepare for practice and everything. I think that’s helped a lot.”
(on the quarterback room) “It’s awesome. I mean, you want to talk about a competitive room. It’s pretty fun to be around. That’s what we want. That makes the team better. Everyone is striving to be the starter and just keep competing.”
(on having a year in the system) “It helped a lot. Obviously, last year I was kind of swimming in it. I’m not saying that it’s easy now. I’m still trying to put the work in and still trying to grasp a lot of knowledge out of this offense. But at the same time, it’s been good so far in year two. I think it’s been a pretty big difference for myself from a confidence standpoint and being around the guys and understanding schemes and what we’re trying to do.”
(on working with new wide receivers) “I think, especially this offseason, we’ve put in a lot of work together. All the quarterbacks, we’ve all taken reps with them. That’s the biggest thing because once preseason comes around, you don’t know who you’re going to be in there with. You got to really get as many reps as you can with everybody. I think we’ve been doing a good job after practice, kind of getting together and doing it.”
(on what QB Brian Hoyer has told him about year two) “Obviously, he’s played in this system before and he’s doing a really good job. He obviously comforts me a lot, talking about how he was the same way his first year and year two. I got to keep getting better and keep improving and that’s what coaches want to see.”
(on how much the game has slowed down) “I mean, it has definitely. This year I actually know what’s going on out there. I know the routes instead of dropping back and figuring out what ever yone is doing at the same time and then trying to figure out what the defense is doing. I think it’s more just playing the game and just trying to put the ball in those guys’ hands.”
(on what helps him more: film or practicing) “I think both. I think this year I’m putting a lot more work in with the film aspect of it. Last year, I was just trying to study the plays and figure out what everyone was doing and where everyone was supposed to be. Now that I know that, I think being able to understand tendencies. I still got to be able to anticipate things better and throw the ball quicker. But, like I said, I’m just trying to keep growing.”
(on when he changed his routine) “I think just this offseason. Last year, it was a privilege to be on this team and I realize that not a lot of teams keep three quarterbacks. I think you’ve really got to earn your spot in this league especially. You can’t take anything for granted. I’m going to really control what I can control. If that’s being the first one in here, then that’s what I’m going to do. It kind of lets me get in the right direction for the day and keep doing the same thing every day.”
(on if he see’s himself competing with the starters) “Oh yeah, absolutely. Obviously, I’ve been in that p osition last year where a guy breaks his leg, and (Ryan) Mallett gets hurt. You get thrown in there with the dogs. I don’t want to do what I did last year. I want to be able to go out there and help the team. I’ve been in the locker room when the guys won the last game and it was all up to another team. That’s what coach says, ‘We don’t want to put anything in anybody else’s hands.’ We want to be able to win and keep playing.”
(on if his mindset changed this offseason) “Yeah, especially for younger guys. I don’t think I realized it last year and I try to emphasize to the rookies now, it’s a catch up game. It’s not really like we come in here and we’re as good as these people and we understand what’s going on. It’s full blown catch up. You have to try to catch up to everybody. That includes whoever, Duane Brown. He’s been in the league for a really long time, so you’ve got to be able to go out there and show them that you can be in there and take control and be out there with them.”
(on what he has focused on this offseason) “Really just kind of familiarizing myself with this offense and really just trying to put some work in and grasp it. So if my time ever does come again, I’ll be ready.”
(on his first couple of practices) “I mean, I think I have a lot to work on, but at the same time, I’m really coming in early and trying to put as much work in as I can. Hopefully, just keep growing.”
(on the difference between last year and this year) “I think this year I kind of developed more of a routine in how I prepare for practice and everything. I think that’s helped a lot.”
(on the quarterback room) “It’s awesome. I mean, you want to talk about a competitive room. It’s pretty fun to be around. That’s what we want. That makes the team better. Everyone is striving to be the starter and just keep competing.”
(on having a year in the system) “It helped a lot. Obviously, last year I was kind of swimming in it. I’m not saying that it’s easy now. I’m still trying to put the work in and still trying to grasp a lot of knowledge out of this offense. But at the same time, it’s been good so far in year two. I think it’s been a pretty big difference for myself from a confidence standpoint and being around the guys and understanding schemes and what we’re trying to do.”
(on working with new wide receivers) “I think, especially this offseason, we’ve put in a lot of work together. All the quarterbacks, we’ve all taken reps with them. That’s the biggest thing because once preseason comes around, you don’t know who you’re going to be in there with. You got to really get as many reps as you can with everybody. I think we’ve been doing a good job after practice, kind of getting together and doing it.”
(on what QB Brian Hoyer has told him about year two) “Obviously, he’s played in this system before and he’s doing a really good job. He obviously comforts me a lot, talking about how he was the same way his first year and year two. I got to keep getting better and keep improving and that’s what coaches want to see.”
(on how much the game has slowed down) “I mean, it has definitely. This year I actually know what’s going on out there. I know the routes instead of dropping back and figuring out what ever yone is doing at the same time and then trying to figure out what the defense is doing. I think it’s more just playing the game and just trying to put the ball in those guys’ hands.”
(on what helps him more: film or practicing) “I think both. I think this year I’m putting a lot more work in with the film aspect of it. Last year, I was just trying to study the plays and figure out what everyone was doing and where everyone was supposed to be. Now that I know that, I think being able to understand tendencies. I still got to be able to anticipate things better and throw the ball quicker. But, like I said, I’m just trying to keep growing.”
(on when he changed his routine) “I think just this offseason. Last year, it was a privilege to be on this team and I realize that not a lot of teams keep three quarterbacks. I think you’ve really got to earn your spot in this league especially. You can’t take anything for granted. I’m going to really control what I can control. If that’s being the first one in here, then that’s what I’m going to do. It kind of lets me get in the right direction for the day and keep doing the same thing every day.”
(on if he see’s himself competing with the starters) “Oh yeah, absolutely. Obviously, I’ve been in that p osition last year where a guy breaks his leg, and (Ryan) Mallett gets hurt. You get thrown in there with the dogs. I don’t want to do what I did last year. I want to be able to go out there and help the team. I’ve been in the locker room when the guys won the last game and it was all up to another team. That’s what coach says, ‘We don’t want to put anything in anybody else’s hands.’ We want to be able to win and keep playing.”
(on if his mindset changed this offseason) “Yeah, especially for younger guys. I don’t think I realized it last year and I try to emphasize to the rookies now, it’s a catch up game. It’s not really like we come in here and we’re as good as these people and we understand what’s going on. It’s full blown catch up. You have to try to catch up to everybody. That includes whoever, Duane Brown. He’s been in the league for a really long time, so you’ve got to be able to go out there and show them that you can be in there and take control and be out there with them.”
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TOM SAVAGE VS INDIANAPOLIS
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Tom Savage was drafted by the Texans as a “project QB” for Bill O’Brien to work with and potentially mold into a starting QB. In his pre-draft scouting report Savage was noted as having a strong arm with a very good deep ball, the knowledge of how to run a pro-style offense, and the willingness to stay in the pocket and deliver a throw. His big flaws were his pocket awareness, advancing through his progressions, and his somewhat inconsistent accuracy in the short and mid range game. We were able to get an unexpected glimpse into Savage’s development when he was suddenly thrust into the starting role in the second quarter against Indianapolis in Week 15. Let’s see what skills, if any, Savage has improved in his time with the Texans.
Stats - 10/19, 127 yards, 6.68 YPA, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 2 fumbles, 1 Sack for 5 yards, 1 rush for -5 yards
Tom Savage enters the game for the injured Ryan Fitzpatrick with 13:20 left in the 2nd Quarter and the score tied at 7.
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Stats - 10/19, 127 yards, 6.68 YPA, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 2 fumbles, 1 Sack for 5 yards, 1 rush for -5 yards
Tom Savage enters the game for the injured Ryan Fitzpatrick with 13:20 left in the 2nd Quarter and the score tied at 7.
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Situation: 3rd and 4 at HST 42
Description: Q2 – (13:06) (Shotgun) T.Savage pass short left for D.Hopkins to IND 49 for 9 yards (J.Freeman; D.Toler)
Analyzing every Savage play with videos, long read/look.
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Good stuff! Keep em comin'
Not to start a fight but I have a question...
This pict shows D.Posey blowing by Vernon Davis, according that PFF color chart, the only "Elite" level player on the Colts' defense.
Help me understand why he couldn't see the field last year...?
Not to start a fight but I have a question...
This pict shows D.Posey blowing by Vernon Davis, according that PFF color chart, the only "Elite" level player on the Colts' defense.
Help me understand why he couldn't see the field last year...?
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
When blowing by a defender is RARE, you don't get the extended looks and move down the progression chart. That and throwing to the side with an elite player is also rare. They have a tendency to make you think the coverage is blown just to get you to challenge them.Good stuff! Keep em comin'
Not to start a fight but I have a question...
This pict shows D.Posey blowing by Vernon Davis, according that PFF color chart, the only "Elite" level player on the Colts' defense.
Help me understand why he couldn't see the field last year...?
CloakNNNdagger
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NFL Roundtable video: McClain, Smith on Tom Savage’s progress VIDEO
Posted on June 6, 2015
Posted on June 6, 2015
2nd year Savage
Stories like these are reminiscent of Romo's 2nd year in Dallas, before they "knew" he was going to be their backup.
Stories like these are reminiscent of Romo's 2nd year in Dallas, before they "knew" he was going to be their backup.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Stories like this are reminiscent of articles written about basically every 2nd year non-starting QB in the league.
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“Not a lot of teams keep three quarterbacks. You’ve really got to earn your spot in this league,” said Savage, who’s been one of the first Texans to arrive at the stadium every morning.
With the dearth of quality QBs in the league the roster limitations seem to work against development. We went through 4 QBs in 2014, as did ARI... teams should be encouraged to carry 3 on the roster and 1 on the practice squad, imo.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I'm still waiting for the stories for McCarron .
I saw one. Should have posted it for you. Sorry. (Thought of you though.)
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infantrycak
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Ever watch Blue Mountain State?
Trickle down economics in a practical application.
Can't help but wonder what's in the charismatically-themed package on the floor ... ?
badboy
Hall of Fame
I will get boo'd but I think Savage had better game of the three. Hoyer looked 'mmh' for the short time he had but TD really helped. Mallett (who I think has better chance of those two) was accurate but not deep where his weakness is.
Savage just seemed to bring a Keenum type "excitement". I hope he gets another year learning then pushes for starter 2016.
Savage just seemed to bring a Keenum type "excitement". I hope he gets another year learning then pushes for starter 2016.
You won't get boo'd by me. I know he probably won't do it, but I'd be jazzed as hell if OB gave Savage the starting job. IMV, he's got the most upside, and it'd make all these conspiracy theorists chug Clorox.
I won't boo you either. Savage certainly had the most exciting performance of the three.
TexansFight
Veteran
You won't get boo'd by me. I know he probably won't do it, but I'd be jazzed as hell if OB gave Savage the starting job. IMV, he's got the most upside, and it'd make all these conspiracy theorists chug Clorox.
I am in full agreement with you both. I also thought he had the best game. He was the only guy who looked deep and showed pocket mobility and elusiveness. Savage has the highest upside of the QBs we have. His improvement from last year is night and day. All he needs is reps and experience.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I always thought that it broke down to Mallett vs Hoyer with Savage having an opportunity if he stepped up while the others did not. I don't think OB really thought all three would step up and make the choice so difficult. I'm glad the choice is hard for all the right reasons. No wonder he is so ... upset... with the press who can't get past last year's narrative.You won't get boo'd by me. I know he probably won't do it, but I'd be jazzed as hell if OB gave Savage the starting job. IMV, he's got the most upside, and it'd make all these conspiracy theorists chug Clorox.
TexansFight
Veteran
I love the touch Savage showed on his balls. He has a strong arm, touch and has pocket mobility. The other 2 are missing either touch or arm strength.
Nitrofish
Let The Big Fish Eat!
You won't get booed by me either! I said this in another post and it's been said here, Savage has the what the other 2 don't. Better touch than Mallet, better arm strength than Hoyer, and better mobility than both! All he lacks is experience!
bah007
Hall of Fame
If his internal clock speeds up (as it should with experience) then I think he has a real shot. Physical talent is there and he looks comfortable in the offense.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
You won't hear any boos from this corner either. I already posted that Savage had the best chance of the 3 to be the answer, though he was far from a lock. I also said OB wouldn't name him as the starter due to prejudice, and I stand by that statement.
kingtexan
All Pro
Prejudice?
Seriously?
He is a against two other guys who already know the system. Him not starting is prejudice how?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
What prejudice would that be?
Still too many hammer puns to go through... imo
Savage looks like a different player this season as compared to last .... But he still has leaps and bounds to go to become a viable NFL starting QB .... Both Hoyer and Mallet are much better at this point than he is .... and I don't thing either of them are them are the long term solution at the position.