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Ryan Mallett (Houston, We Have A Monster)

I think it's really a three way competition with Savage being at a disadvantage due to inexperience. But I think and hope it is a real competition.

I could see OB thinking it would be nice if one stood out just to make the decision easier. But having two or three step up rather than meander about would be best for the team. The worst possibility would be all three taking a step back and making the decision hard because none responds to the challenge. That would lead to further QB turnover and panic. Most decisions made in panic mode are ultimately bad decisions.
 
I guess I'm the only one who wants to see three great QBs competing well and making the choice difficult for O'Brien.

Why would you think that? The current conversation is in response to a beat rider saying the fix is in.

No one is saying they hope OB has already made up his mind.
 
Why would you think that? The current conversation is in response to a beat rider saying the fix is in.

No one is saying they hope OB has already made up his mind.
I see a choosing of sides without the information required for a make the good decision. That is what I am responding to. Charges that the competition is a sham or that only Mallet supporters are upset seem to suggest such. But if you think this stirring of the pot shows everyone on the same page, so be it.
 
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I don't think anyone would try to argue that he is less credible than McClain on football matters. But does he have a history of being "in the know" on the inner workings of the Texans staff? It's still just a rumor. The only reason it's catching on is because Texans fans are notoriously pessimistic about this kind of stuff and just want to believe it is true. There is nothing about what he said that makes it any more believable than anything McClain has ever said. It doesn't even read like he's reporting it. It's his opinion.

It appears that the competition is only being looked at as a sham by people who want Mallett to win.

I want the better player to win, regardless of who that turns out to be. I'm also an admitted homer for OB. So I trust that the competition will play out fairly and the better player will start.
That there is the bottom line.
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I see a choosing of sides without the information required for a make the good decision. That is what I am responding to. Charges that the competition is a sham or that only Mallet supporters are upset seem to suggest such. But if you think this stirring of the pot shows everyone on the same page, so be it.

I've seen people openly express their favorites & I've seen some express displeasure at the thought that OB may have a favorite who is not their guy.

Then I've seen some try to position themselves as smarter than the rest by ignoring the reports, or simply dismissing them, that the "competition" may not be completely fair & objective.
 
I've seen people openly express their favorites & I've seen some express displeasure at the thought that OB may have a favorite who is not their guy.

Then I've seen some try to position themselves as smarter than the rest by ignoring the reports, or simply dismissing them, that the "competition" may not be completely fair & objective.

I am not sure what "fair" means. It certainly won't be objective, because one man will determine the "winner" based on what he values, not simply based on the player who scores highest on definable criteria.

Either fans can have confidence in OBriens decision-making, or not. I saw plenty from him last season to have confidence that he will steer this ship very well. Either way, I don't think "fairness" is really the issue.
 
Just reminded by this article... Mallett is to Hoyer what Garapolo is to Mallett, ie the reason Hoyer was made expendable to New England...

Mallett and Hoyer reunited in another quarterback competition, similar to their days in New England.

“It’s just like old times,” Mallett said. “We haven’t missed a step. He’s come in here, he’s worked hard, and I’m trying to do the same thing.”
 
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about? Obrien's QB competition decision is already documented in the already posted video from his decision at Penn St. Why in the world would OB have a bias about playing a QB that wouldn't win the most games? Particularly 2 days into OTAs !

I'm going to have get some Zen going on with these off the wall comments.
 
The thing we all need to keep in mind where this coming season is concerned and where the QB battle we're all about to watch will come to an end is this.

Case Keenum is three injuries and one practice squad signing away from leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Never forget that because that's a fact right there.

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The thing we all need to keep in mind where this coming season is concerned and where the QB battle we're all about to watch will come to an end is this.

Case Keenum is three injuries and one practice squad signing away from leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Never forget that because that's a fact right there.

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:lol:

This forum would have a very serious breakdown in reality.
 
The thing we all need to keep in mind where this coming season is concerned and where the QB battle we're all about to watch will come to an end is this.

Case Keenum is three injuries and one practice squad signing away from leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Never forget that because that's a fact right there.

:stirpot:

:ahhaha: omg lol Thorn is right - this place would come apart at the seams.
 
The thing we all need to keep in mind where this coming season is concerned and where the QB battle we're all about to watch will come to an end is this.

Case Keenum is three injuries and one practice squad signing away from leading the Texans to their first Super Bowl. Never forget that because that's a fact right there.

:stirpot:

Yup! There isn't anything more overrated than the ridiculously overhyped "battle" of who starts on opening day.
 
Brett Kollmann, who did the video, will be on 610AM today...

– tune in to Patrick Creighton this afternoon on Sports Radio 610, when I will be on the show at 4:30 CT to talk a little Texans.​

Thanks for posting this video. I will remember Mallet for the Browns game unless he shows me reason to feel otherwise. Mallet may have shown a wart or two. But when I look at Hoyer, I see someone whose played with way too many frogs.
 
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I heard an interview with him last night with John Harris and I'm just not getting why people think he's stupid. He's got a Texas accent, which many of us have to some degree, but he was bright, intelligent, and funny. And he's certainly driven to be a starting QB and brimming with confidence about O'Brien's offensive scheme.
 
I heard an interview with him last night with John Harris and I'm just not getting why people think he's stupid. He's got a Texas accent, which many of us have to some degree, but he was bright, intelligent, and funny. And he's certainly driven to be a starting QB and brimming with confidence about O'Brien's offensive scheme.

I think some people perceive him to be a wigger; thus the problem.
Adrian Peterson sounds like he has a mental illness but he sure can play ball. Does the player know the plays and what to do? Who cares after that?
 
I heard an interview with him last night with John Harris and I'm just not getting why people think he's stupid. He's got a Texas accent, which many of us have to some degree, but he was bright, intelligent, and funny. And he's certainly driven to be a starting QB and brimming with confidence about O'Brien's offensive scheme.

East Coast arrogance
 
East Coast arrogance

Do you have a top 5 list of things you hate and ascribe anything you disagree with to one of them?

Dislike of 'wiggers' has nothing to do with 'East Coast arrogance.' Folks on the east coast are probably a lot more accepting of that affect than folks in the south.
 
How Ryan Mallett develops better touch with his throws

HOUSTON -- Ryan Mallett's arm strength was never a problem, all the way back to his childhood. Playing catch with his father as a youngster was never easy on his father's hands. He once threw a football on his knees from the 50 yard line through the uprights across the field.
Knowing how to harness that power took time.

Mallett is now competing to be the Texans' starting quarterback against Brian Hoyer, who was Cleveland's starting quarterback for most of last season. Touch is a skill Texans coach Bill O'Brien has seen Mallett work on since 2011 when O'Brien was the Patriots' offensive coordinator and Mallett was a New England rookie quarterback. Touch is one of the many skills of a quarterback that matters to O’Brien -- but it fits into the category of adjustable physical skills.

"He would throw the 20 yard in cut just like he would throw the checkdown … they were both like 90 miles an hour," O'Brien said. “Now when he drops it down to the back, it’s a catchable ball. I think it has to do with footwork and repetition."

His coaches taught him to take some velocity off the ball by throwing on his toes to reduce his arm's power. Mallett practiced throwing to managers and others who weren't professional receivers.

“If they can catch it, I know my guys can catch it,” Mallett said. “It’s just about a feel of the ball and how you release it. … Just gotta know when to use the fastball and when to use the changeup.”

The reps with professional receivers were and are critical, too. Developing a better understanding of each receiver helps him better understand how to throw to each.

"A lot of times I try to get it there as fast as I can, but I don’t need to," Mallett said. "I’ve worked a lot on that. Just reps an reps and more reps. The older you get the more you understand when you need to throw it hard, when you need to throw it soft, who you need to throw it soft too, who can catch it, who can’t, all that stuff."

Doing that can make the quarterback a better teammate as it's also one of the ways he can make his receivers better.

"The quarterbacks can make the receivers better in a lot of ways," O'Brien said. "Post practice work, pre-practice work, what they do between the end of this minicamp and when training camp starts. I think once practice starts, 11-on-11, 7-on-7, it’s being accurate with the ball. Giving them a good ball to catch and putting it where they want it but also I think when the receivers and tight ends and backs, when they go out there and make tough catches for the quarterback, that creates trust."​
 
Four years in the league - three behind one of the best touch passers in the game today - surely he's not just NOW figuring out he needs to work on his touch?
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Time to revive this topic since Mal is the captain of the ship again...

For the newcomers, first click through and read/watch this:


The Film Room: Ryan Mallett (Houston, We Have A Monster)
By Brett Kollmann on Sep 3, 2014

Ryan Mallett's preseason with the Patriots was statistically underwhelming, but the eye in the sky doesn't lie. The Houston Texans just nabbed themselves a terrific quarterback.

Like most Texans fans, I was skeptical when first hearing about Bill O’Brien making a move to acquire Ryan Mallett. The former Arkansas Razorback and New England Patriot was a completely unknown commodity with just one year left on his contract, and his most notable claim to fame was tumbling in the 2011 NFL Draft for a plethora of off-the-field concerns. Even for a conditional sixth round pick, I questioned what sort of value Ryan Mallett could bring to the team.

And then I watched him play.

I am a firm believer that in order for one to have any sort of credibility when they are proven right, they must also admit when they are wrong. I was dead wrong about Ryan Mallett. The combined package of pure arm talent, pocket presence, and mental acuity that I saw against Philadelphia and Washington in the preseason was far beyond anything shown from any Texans quarterback this August. Some of Mallett’s throws were simply breathtaking. Patriots fans and media alike have always raved about the Howitzer attached to Mallett’s shoulder, but actually seeing the ball jump off his hands is an experience that exceeds all expectations. What excited me the most about Mallett’s preseason, however, was not physical. It was cerebral.

Out of 34 charted drop-backs in these two games, Mallett did not make a single "bad" read. Every decision, whether running or passing, was on point. Although Mallett’s 53% completion rate and 85.6 passer rating might suggest a mediocre performance, the tape reveals an almost surgical approach to the game. Take this first quarter snap against the Redskins as an example.

New England is running a hi-lo zone beater concept to the right and a rub concept to the left to beat man. Mallett identifies the single high safety look and knows that Washington is either running Cover One with man coverage underneath or a Cover Three zone. The hi-lo route combination should free at least one receiver up against the more likely defensive look, Cover Three, so that is Mallett’s first read. In the event of man coverage, Mallett’s next progression is the dart route over the middle that should come free from the rub (blue arrow).




Mallett keeps his eyes dead center to freeze the deep zones while double checking whether the linebackers are dropping into zone or trailing receivers in man. As expected, Washington is running a Cover Three.



Mallett already knows that the speed cut under the deep third zone should be open against Cover Three, so he immediately turns and fires a bullet to his receiver, Kenbrell Thompkins. Thompkins does a good job at flattening his route away from the corner to maintain good body positioning and hauls the pass in. Although preseason coverages are usually fairly vanilla, this is a clinical read by Mallett and the exact kind of throw that franchise quarterbacks need to make to keep drives alive.





One of the more underrated traits of a good quarterback is eye discipline. Making good reads and having the arm to make tough throws is obviously important, but young quarterbacks who can force open holes in defenses by deceiving people with their eyes are...



Then watch this followup video from Brett...



Then put yer pompoms on.
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I heard an interview with him last night with John Harris and I'm just not getting why people think he's stupid. He's got a Texas accent, which many of us have to some degree, but he was bright, intelligent, and funny. And he's certainly driven to be a starting QB and brimming with confidence about O'Brien's offensive scheme.

He's just not articulate is what I think it is...he got that white chocolate country boy swag...bubba sparx lol
 
There are some with little faith. From ESPN:

Texans' quarterback is TBD until March -- at least
6h
Kevin Seifert, NFL Nation

Barring an unlikely breakout, the Houston Texans will enter the third offseason of coach Bill O'Brien's tenure right where they started it in 2014: looking for an answer at quarterback.

It's true that we're months away from that point, which by definition leaves plenty of time for the narrative to change. But the recent history of coaches who have shared O'Brien's quick trigger, and the analysis we can apply to his decisions over the past month, suggest a franchise-debilitating black hole. Backup Ryan Mallett could provide the Texans a short-term boost, but it's much more likely that neither he nor deposed starter Brian Hoyer will be part of any long-term solution.

O'Brien, of course, awarded Hoyer the starting job on Aug. 24 and then benched him midway through the fourth quarter of his first start just 20 days later. Mallett will start Sunday at the Carolina Panthers, O'Brien confirmed Thursday, and it's anyone's guess what will happen after that.

The chart embedded in this post puts into context how rare, and ultimately unsuccessful, such moves have been in recent history. Over the past 10 years, 21 teams have started a different quarterback in Weeks 1 and 2. All but four of them, however, were due to injury.

Derek Anderson Cam Newton 5-8-1 7-8-1 Yes
2014 STL Shaun Hill Austin Davis 3-5 6-10 No
2014 ARI Carson Palmer Drew Stanton 5-3 11-5 Yes
2013 JAC Blaine Gabbert Chad Henne 4-9 4-12 No
2012 ARI John Skelton Kevin Kolb 3-2 5-11 No
2010 CLE Jake Delhomme Seneca Wallace 1-3 5-11 No
2010 DET Matthew Stafford Shaun Hill 3-7 6-10 No
2010 PHI Kevin Kolb Michael Vick 8-3 10-6 Yes
2009 KC Brodie Croyle Matt Cassel 4-11 4-12 No
2009 PHI Donovan McNabb Kevin Kolb 1-1 11-5 Yes
2008 TEN Vince Young Kerry Collins 12-3 13-3 Yes
2008 KC Brodie Croyle Damon Huard 1-2 2-14 No
2008 NE Tom Brady Matt Cassel 10-5 11-5 No
2008 TB Jeff Garcia Brian Griese 3-2 9-7 No
2007 BAL Steve McNair Kyle Boller 2-6 5-11 No
2007 CLE Charlie Frye Derek Anderson 10-5 10-6 No
2007 NYJ Chad Pennington Kellen Clemens 3-5 4-12 No
2006 KC Trent Green Damon Huard 5-3 9-7 Yes
2006 PIT Charlie Batch Ben Roethlisberger 7-8 8-8 No
2005 BAL Kyle Boller Anthony Wright 2-5 6-10 No
2005 WAS Patrick Ramsey Mark Brunell 9-6 10-6 Yes
* bolded entries were coaching decisions
** Source: Elias Sports Bureau, ESPN Stats & Information


Three of the teams that made changes based on performance finished the season with winning records, but only one -- the 2005 Washington Redskins -- advanced to the playoffs. More important to the big picture: None of the replacements made it to the end of the following season as his team's unquestioned starter. Here is how those situations panned out:

  • 2005 Redskins: Benched Patrick Ramsey in favor of Mark Brunell. Midway through 2006, the Redskins elevated 2005 first-round draft pick Jason Campbell to start over Brunell.

  • 2007 Cleveland Browns: Benched starter Charlie Frye in favor of Derek Anderson. In 2008, Anderson was one of four quarterbacks to start for a 4-12 Browns team.

  • 2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Benched starter Jeff Garcia in favor of Brian Griese. In 2009, the Bucs made Josh Freeman their first-round draft pick and installed him as their starter in Week 8 of that season.

  • 2014 St. Louis Rams: Benched starter Shaun Hill, an injury replacement for Sam Bradford, in favor of Austin Davis. After the season, the Rams acquired Nick Foles and did not re-sign Hill or Davis.
(It should be noted that the 2003 Carolina Panthers rode a Week 1 quarterback benching to the Super Bowl, but that season fell out of our 10-year range with Elias. Sorry, Jake Delhomme.)

The Texans could always buck history, of course. But what have you seen so far to suggest that Mallett could do it? Keep in mind that Hoyer was one of the NFL's five-worst starters last season, based on Total Quarterback Rating, and was ranked No. 30 of 32 in ESPN Insider's annual Quarterback Tiers project. O'Brien had a well-deserved reputation as a quarterback whisperer during his tenure as an assistant coach. If he thought Hoyer was the superior option last month, well, that doesn't say much for Mallett.

There's a stat to note here, via Pro Football Focus. Despite a reputation for a strong arm, Mallett has completed only one pass targeted at least 20 yards downfield in his five-season career.

To be fair, the Texans don't deserve all the blame here. A quick look at the NFL's Week 1 quarterbacks shows there simply aren't enough starters to go around. (Hello, Josh McCown and Kirk Cousins.) But it's worth exploring why the Texans were one of the teams left standing when the music stopped.

The decline of Matt Schaub in 2013 put the Texans in the best position imaginable to reload with a new coaching staff: the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 draft. Unfortunately for them, that draft had no quarterback who merited selection there. The Texans drafted pass-rusher Jadeveon Clowney, a defensible decision, but then declined to maneuver for any of the next five quarterbacks drafted -- a list that included Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, among others.

To this point, the selection of Tom Savage in the fourth round hasn't paid dividends. At the minimum, the first two years of O'Brien's tenure -- a time when the framework of a championship rebuild should be laid -- will be limited by patchwork personnel at the game's most important position. The season is barely underway, and already the Texans are en route to their second consecutive year of quarterback TBD. See you in March.
 
All Ryan Mallet has to do is not LOSE the damn game for us (like Hoyer and Fitz did)...be smart, be confident, take your chances when you need to, and we can win games, and he can be our answer at QB for at least the next two seasons. What he did in the Cleveland game and the last 5 minutes of the KC game is ALL we need out of him at this moment.
 
There are some with little faith. From ESPN:

Well, yeah. If you're willing pull your anointed starter after week one for the backup, it basically tells me that you don't think you have a QB. At this point, I think we can only hope that Mallett actually has something.
 
All he did was dink and dunk in the Cleveland game between 6-10 yds. The Bengals took that area and the running game away from him and by the late stages of the game when it wasn't prudent to dink and dunk he was all over the place trying to throw 15+ yds down the field. I'm not convinced that was all pec injury. The little bit of time in the KC game he still really didn't throw beyond 10 yds.

I think I have a good idea about his pocket skills and knowledge of the system... I have to see him challenging down field beyond his customary comfort zone of 6-10 yds accurately more for me to believe we've got something in this kid.
 
All he did was dink and dunk in the Cleveland game between 6-10 yds. The Bengals took that area and the running game away from him and by the late stages of the game when it wasn't prudent to dink and dunk he was all over the place trying to throw 15+ yds down the field. I'm not convinced that was all pec injury. The little bit of time in the KC game he still really didn't throw beyond 10 yds.

I think I have a good idea about his pocket skills and knowledge of the system... I have to see him challenging down field beyond his customary comfort zone of 6-10 yds accurately more for me to believe we've got something in this kid.

20 of 30 and he was all over the place ? I saw the same game you did and I felt like his medium to deep accuracy was pretty good. He took what the D gave him, and against KC he had some pretty good deep to mid range throws.
 
There are some with little faith. From ESPN:

Of course, it's the national media. They always half-ass their homework on the Texans.

Over the past 10 years, 21 teams have started a different quarterback in Weeks 1 and 2. All but four of them, however, were due to injury.

It's safe to say this situation is unique. The starter and the backup were determined out of a flawed bias formed by the coach's long history with them.

O'Brien had a well-deserved reputation as a quarterback whisperer during his tenure as an assistant coach. If he thought Hoyer was the superior option last month, well, that doesn't say much for Mallett.

The bolded is the crux of the writer's argument, which is, again, based on half-assing his research.

There's a stat to note here, via Pro Football Focus. Despite a reputation for a strong arm, Mallett has completed only one pass targeted at least 20 yards downfield in his five-season career.

Le sigh...
 
Except for the 3 20+ and one 40+ yd receptions. Kinda big exceptions.


In 2 games that ain't impressive...furthermore I'm fairly sure you're counting the garret graham TD pass right before the half in the Cleveland game amongst those 3 20+... Mallet hit him at about his customary 10 yd range..and graham did the rest with YAC. 15+ in the air is what I want to see.
 
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