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Rumor: VY scores a 6

YoungTexanFan said:
haha, yeah...spelling was never one of my best subjects.

I do, however, have an excellent vocabullary and can communicate intelligently with superiors.

...but thanks...:rolleyes:
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Keep working on that vocabulary and some day you will be the superior...:rolleyes:

You are welcome.

:jk:

I need a little joviality in my life. I've been taking all this MB arguing to seriously.

:coffee:
 
The more I think about it, if this "6" is true this is going to kill his draft position.

What he didn't do in college:
Take very many snaps under center.
Have to read a defense while dropping back.

What Mack Brown did do for him:
Let him make less decisions and run more often.
Dumb down the offense.

Lets face it the guy became a Texas hero by his athletic abilities, not because he read a defense.

Will he develop into a great pocket passer? who knows but at this point he is a higher risk and his stock has to be falling fast. If Aaron Rogers dropped into the 20's last year, I would not be shocked to see Vince Young drop out of the top 10. Heck before the Rose bowl he wasn't a top 10 pick.

PS: Hook'em Horns!!! I still love ya Vince.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Most of that post was meant as sarcasm. I'll post a :sarcasm: next time I assume something is blatently obvious.
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I figured you were being sarcastic and not being totally serious. It gave me an opportunity to make my point. There are different standards for us,regular students and athletes, especially the elite ones when it comes to being accepted into college and making the grades.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
haha, yeah...spelling was never one of my best subjects.

I do, however, have an excellent vocabullary and can communicate intelligently with superiors.

...but thanks...:rolleyes:
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I think the word you are looking for is vocabulary (oh, and label rather than lable). j/k Sorry, couldn't resist as a follow up.
 
With all of the conspiracies being solved on this thread due to VY scoring a 6 on the test I am surpirsed no one has linked him to Al-Qaeda.

Awful management, awful preparation from VY and his team. This is inexcusable and it will hurt his draft status. It has nothing to do with how he will play on the field or how he will lead. In fact I would venture to guess that he will become one of the largest value picks in the draft.

The question that no one has asked on this thread surprisingly is that what does it do for our trade down possibilities? Lot of guys out there are more interested in bad mouthing a kid than thinking about the Texans draft implications.
 
infantrycak said:
I think the word you are looking for is vocabulary (oh, and label rather than lable). j/k Sorry, couldn't resist as a follow up.
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Curses!!

I'm just going to type as Vince would talk. Everyone can understand 2nd grade vocab. (notice I cut the word down so I wouldn't have to spell it!)
 
Kaiser Toro said:
The question that no one has asked on this thread surprisingly is that what does it do for our trade down possibilities? Lot of guys out there are more interested in bad mouthing a kid than thinking about the Texans draft implications.
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Don't think it has any impact on our trade down possibilities. Haven't heard of any team in the league trading up to get anyone other than Leinart for the most part, maybe a few Bush mentions. Have you seen any dicsussion of a team trading up to get VY?
 
This is everyone's daily reminder (from now on) that the only source reporting this 6 is a tabloid website with a history of being incredibly unreliable. You guys are wasting a lot of time debating something that's the equivalent of a National Enquirer story.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Curses!!

I'm just going to type as Vince would talk. Everyone can understand 2nd grade vocab. (notice I cut the word down so I wouldn't have to spell it!)
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Geez, good to see a little humor return to the MB. :thumbup

Unfortunately, now that you cut the word down for ease of spelling, someone else is going to ask, "what's a vocab.?"
 
DomDavis said:
This is everyone's daily reminder (from now on) that the only source reporting this 6 is a tabloid website with a history of being incredibly unreliable. You guys are wasting a lot of time debating something that's the equivalent of a National Enquirer story.
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Well then give us something new to argue about. This is just my entertainment in between the combine coverage.
 
infantrycak said:
Geez, good to see a little humor return to the MB. :thumbup

Unfortunately, now that you cut the word down for ease of spelling, someone else is going to ask, "what's a vocab.?"
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Yes, but you using your "lawyer" talk will not help solve anything and will not allow me to understad any better!! :)
 
ESPN has just announced that it has retained a copy of Vince Young's official Wonderlic scorecard and has discovered some peculiarities. Well, see for yourself:
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I’m a VY supporter but, the Aggie in me just couldn’t help but make a joke of this.:stooges:
 
That is a pretty poor score if true, but bad preparation can effect it. This is not a "right minus wrong" kind of test. A person should look at the question, and if they don't immediately know the answer guess one and move on. Fifty questions, five choices - that would be a ten on average. If you guess on the harder ones and get the easier ones you should do better than that.

I think, but I don't know, that the player can choose to take the test again.
 
I was floored when I read this ..... unbelievable ..... this is as much of an indictment of VY's management as it is of his intelligence .... on a side note my 7 year old made a 15 but his 40 time sucks ....
 
infantrycak said:
C'mon--it had to be done in that situation.
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Not saying it didn't, as I would be doing it too, but I'm off to a "slow" start today.

(Notice the double entendre implied about Vince.)
 
Ok guys, the Vince Wonderlic score is true. I emailed John McClain who is at the combine and he just replied to me. Here it is, my original email is at the bottom:
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On 2/26/06, McClain, John wrote:

True. You can read about in the Chronicle Monday. He can take it as much as he wants, but even if he doubles it, a 12 Wonderlic score isn't good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL.

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From: Harrisment [mailto:*****@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 2/26/2006 8:58 AM
To: McClain, John
Subject: Vince Wonderlic Score


John,

The rumor that is making its way around the net is that Vince has scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test. Since you are at the Combine, can you confirm what his score was? Also if true, do you think that hurts his draft stock?
 
chuckm said:
I was floored when I read this ..... unbelievable ..... this is as much of an indictment of VY's management as it is of his intelligence .... on a side note my 7 year old made a 15 but his 40 time sucks ....
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haha
 
Dan Marino's stock dropped with his 13 test score. I'm sure the Chiefs were happy with the much 'smarter' Todd Blackledge when they picked him over that dope Marino.
 
Vinny said:
Dan Marino's stock dropped with his 13 test score. I'm sure the Chiefs were happy with the much 'smarter' Todd Blackledge when they picked him over that dope Marino.
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True, we can find examples that point out how the test isn't a true indicator of future NFL success, but what's your take on it? Does this change your opinion of what the Texans should do?
 
chuckm said:
True, we can find examples that point out how the test isn't a true indicator of future NFL success, but what's your take on it? Does this change your opinion of what the Texans should do?
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donno...6 is pretty awful. I've mentioned privately to a few folks who will read this that I didn't think Young was all that bright over the last month or so...so this really doesn't shock me too much (I was thinking 10-15 range though). For instance, Steve McNair didn't strike me as too bright when the Oilers drafted him out of Alcorn State. I remember my Father in Law arguing for Kerry Collins due to the "QB smarts" factor....and I see Vince with the same area mentally as I do McNair. I think if Steve McNair can figure it out, so can Young. I've mentioned in a few other places that I think we draft Bush...so that hasn't changed in my mind.

Frankly I feel kind of bad for Young but he's gonna be a rich man and probably doesn't care too much what some people think. I know some folks that aren't naturally gifted when it came to critical thinking and general "smarts" and hate to see people running around kicking them and calling them stupid for testing poorly. It's classless.
 
According to Pro Football Talk, the word at the Combine is that Vince Young scored a 6 out of 50 on the Wonderlic.
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Yet, somehow, his defenders try to rationalize this? Way to go Einstien's! :)

Said the source, who knows a thing or two about evaluating college players:

"I predict he'll fall all the way out of the first round."
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Coach Mac, "Hey Vince, we're going to run a double right Charlie 10 pigeon...got it?"

VY: "Yeah coach, got it, run a six"

Coach Mac to the offensive coordinator "Ok guy, change all the play numbers in the book to six, I think we've found how to make him successful"

LOL
 
Vinny said:
donno...6 is pretty awful. I've mentioned privately to a few folks who will read this that I didn't think Young was all that bright over the last month or so...so this really doesn't shock me too much (I was thinking 10-15 range though). For instance, Steve McNair didn't strike me as too bright when the Oilers drafted him out of Alcorn State. I remember my Father in Law arguing for Kerry Collins due to the "QB smarts" factor....and I see Vince with the same area mentally as I do McNair. I think if Steve McNair can figure it out, so can Young. I've mentioned in a few other places that I think we draft Bush...so that hasn't changed in my mind.

Frankly I feel kind of bad for Young but he's gonna be a rich man and probably doesn't care too much what some people think. I know some folks that aren't naturally gifted when it came to critical thinking and general "smarts" and hate to see people running around kicking them and calling them stupid for testing poorly. It's classless.
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Won't happen, but I wish his (for the Texans' sake not his) stock would plummet. Bush or a trade down in the 1st, VY at #33. Now that would be interesting.
 
infantrycak said:
Don't think it has any impact on our trade down possibilities. Haven't heard of any team in the league trading up to get anyone other than Leinart for the most part, maybe a few Bush mentions. Have you seen any dicsussion of a team trading up to get VY?
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^ thats true, even though we have the #1 ovrl. pick in this draft, the team that has all the leverage is New Orleans. The #2 pick in the draft has alot of value, simply due to the fact that we signed Carr to a extension and its widely expected were going to take Bush and with Edge and Shaun possibly being on the market and the depth at RB this year, there isn't a whole lot of people wanting to move up.

Plus with the fact that New Orleans, Tennessee, and the Jets all needing QBs I doubt there is to many teams willing to move down. I do see Vince falling however and if thats the case that only hurts the value of our pick, since teams will be willing to take a gamble to see if he falls.

The top of the draft seems pretty set. Houston will draft Reggie of trade down, but I don't think they'll have a partner to trade down with. New Orleans will take Matt Lienart, and Tennessee will take either Vince or Cuttler, but after this test and after reading other reports and the fact that Jeff Fisher coached Cutler, I wouldn't be surprised is they bypassed Vince and took Cutler.

The Jets seem like they would be willing to make a deal depending on how the Pennington situation turns out. Vince could free fall in this draft if the top 4 teams pass on him.
 
Harrisment said:
Ok guys, the Vince Wonderlic score is true. I emailed John McClain who is at the combine and he just replied to me. Here it is, my original email is at the bottom:
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On 2/26/06, McClain, John wrote:

True. You can read about in the Chronicle Monday. He can take it as much as he wants, but even if he doubles it, a 12 Wonderlic score isn't good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL.

________________________________

From: Harrisment [mailto:*****@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 2/26/2006 8:58 AM
To: McClain, John
Subject: Vince Wonderlic Score


John,

The rumor that is making its way around the net is that Vince has scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test. Since you are at the Combine, can you confirm what his score was? Also if true, do you think that hurts his draft stock?
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Did you copy and paste exactly?
 
check back at the profootballtalk.com web site ...

they have a follow-up article proposing that Vince'll change management ....
 
All of the misspellings on a thread knocking a low Wonderlich score is too ironic for me. Stop, I can't take anymore.

Or should I say anymoor.
 
VinceEinstein.jpg


Maybe he'll change his jersey number to match his score?
 
Htown34s said:
All of the misspellings on a thread knocking a low Wonderlich score is too ironic for me. Stop, I can't take anymore.

Or should I say anymoor.
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It's Wonderlic, not Wonderlich.
 
Htown34s said:
All of the misspellings on a thread knocking a low Wonderlich score is too ironic for me. Stop, I can't take anymore.

Or should I say anymoor.
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ROFL, that was my thought exactly.

But I did take a course from the Evln Woodhead sped reding corse. It make me red much beter and fast. Now I dont sem so much lik a dumy nemore.
 
Carr Bomb said:
Plus with the fact that New Orleans, Tennessee, and the Jets all needing QBs I doubt there is to many teams willing to move down. I do see Vince falling however and if thats the case that only hurts the value of our pick, since teams will be willing to take a gamble to see if he falls.

The top of the draft seems pretty set. Houston will draft Reggie of trade down, but I don't think they'll have a partner to trade down with. New Orleans will take Matt Lienart, and Tennessee will take either Vince or Cuttler, but after this test and after reading other reports and the fact that Jeff Fisher coached Cutler, I wouldn't be surprised is they bypassed Vince and took Cutler.

The Jets seem like they would be willing to make a deal depending on how the Pennington situation turns out. Vince could free fall in this draft if the top 4 teams pass on him.
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Vince will not freefall like suggested. Arizona and Oakland are both very likely to take him if he slips.

I am not sold on Tenn. taking Young or Cutler. I still believe that if we do not take Fergueson, they will. I said that BEFORE young took this test.
 
Htown34s said:
All of the misspellings on a thread knocking a low Wonderlich score is too ironic for me. Stop, I can't take anymore.

Or should I say anymoor.
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Pretty funny when you have misspellings also buddy. :ok:
 
maybe we could get him with our first pick in the second round?

just trying to give some hope to the longhorn faithful.
 
I bet he is the 1st to score a 6 after single handedly winning a championship...the guy breaks records from all angles.
 
I'm not going to waste much time on this ridiculous subject, but the Wonderlic score means squat. Squat. Any team that's interested in drafting Vince Young will watch tape with him and go over defensive formations and protection schemes. How Vince fares in the Q&As (and what he's shown on tape) will determine the NFL's opinion of Young as a QB prospect.
 
infantrycak said:
Won't happen, but I wish his (for the Texans' sake not his) stock would plummet. Bush or a trade down in the 1st, VY at #33. Now that would be interesting.
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Nope, that's still no good. If we took him at #33, #66, #99, or whatever we'd
still have all the local Longhorns crying & whining to get him in the game as
soon as Carr thru his first interception (or maybe just his first incompletion).
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Vince will not freefall like suggested. Arizona and Oakland are both very likely to take him if he slips.

I am not sold on Tenn. taking Young or Cutler. I still believe that if we do not take Fergueson, they will. I said that BEFORE young took this test.
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With Arozona inking a new contract with Warner I think they would pass on Young. (I think they are in the win now mode with a vetern QB and the young talented receivers they have.) I do agree with you that Young at Oakland seems reasonable, but like I said I also wouldn't be surprised is Young happened to slip down the draft.
 
Htown34s said:
All of the misspellings on a thread knocking a low Wonderlich score is too ironic for me. Stop, I can't take anymore.

Just having a 'lighter' discussion than what has been happening around here since the Rose Bowl.

YoungTexanFan is being a sport about it. :ok:
Nothing malicious, it's all in good fun.:cool:

Without aol's research and learn dictionary I would be in serious trouble when it comes to spelling.

I will refrain from questioning VYs intelligence. I have never taken the test so I really wouldn't know how it's related to intelligence.

Regardless of his test score he will soon be a wealthy young man.

:coffee:
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This is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. All the UT homers lover boy turned out to be well, dumb. If the whole NFL thing doesn't go for him he can't join the Army, you gotta take a test and its most likely harder than the Wunderlic. He can always pull a Cartman on South Park and go to the Special Olympics, he might not have to act as hard to be handicapped as Cartman did though.:stirpot:
 
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