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Congrats to Reggie Bush on his first NFL touchdown. While I'm at it. Congrats to Vince Young a couple of games ago on his first touchdown, and same to Matt Leinart.
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Reggie Bush gets first TD
- Thread starter kastofsna
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Couldn't have said it better. Expect alot of these over the season. Did anyone hear what that TOOL Collinsworth said about RB when they highlighted the the Return. "The player that should have been the No.1 pick"
Seriously, what difference does it make?? I mean they're getting darn near the same money, N.O. is happy they got him. If it weren't for us passing on REggie, we'd all be amazed that the SanAntonio Saints are 4-1.
We got our guy, they got their guy, why do they want Reggie in Houston so badly?? So he wouldn't have to play second fiddle to Duece?? So they can blame the OLine, for his performance??
Why should he have been the #1 pick, I mean after 4 years, does anybody care that Eli was taken, and forced a trade that sent a bunch of picks that have helped make the SD (Super)Chargers a legit playoff contender??
Does anyone care that TimCouch was picked ahead of DonovanMcNabb?? Or that AlexSmith didn't throw a touchdown 'till he faced the Texans?? Looking back right now, can you tell Harrington was picked #3, and that Peppers wasn't the #1 overall in that Draft.
The best player isn't always the #1 pick. The team picking decides what they need, and look at what's available & decide how they go about spending their draft choices at that time.
13 posts.... all about Reggie Bush.
on a HoustonTexans message board.
& you wonder why we talk about Reggie Bush........
20 touches, to get around a 100 yards.
Imagine if you give Duece 20 touches.
Imagine if Colston got 20 catches......
150 yards, maybe 160??
Goldeagle
Veteran
According to NFL.com
Wes Welker
Receiving
G GS Rec Yds Avg
4 0 18 222 12.3
Kick Returns
G No Yds Avg Lg
4 11 270 24.5 39
Punt Returns
G Ret FC Ret Yds Avg Lg
4 7 6 99 14.1 47
REGGIE BUSH
Receiving
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg
4 1 23 187 8.1 32
Punt Returns
G Ret FC Ret Yds Avg Lg
4 9 0 57 6.3 14
Rushing
G GS Att Yds Avg Lg
4 1 45 147 3.3 18
Wes Welker: Undrafted
Total Yards: 591
REGGIE BUSH: THE GREATEST EVER, SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED #1
Total Yards: 391
Wes Welker: 591
Reggie Bush: 391
?????????????????
I can conclude, Wes Welker is GOD!
Wes Welker
Receiving
G GS Rec Yds Avg
4 0 18 222 12.3
Kick Returns
G No Yds Avg Lg
4 11 270 24.5 39
Punt Returns
G Ret FC Ret Yds Avg Lg
4 7 6 99 14.1 47
REGGIE BUSH
Receiving
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg
4 1 23 187 8.1 32
Punt Returns
G Ret FC Ret Yds Avg Lg
4 9 0 57 6.3 14
Rushing
G GS Att Yds Avg Lg
4 1 45 147 3.3 18
Wes Welker: Undrafted
Total Yards: 591
REGGIE BUSH: THE GREATEST EVER, SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED #1
Total Yards: 391
Wes Welker: 591
Reggie Bush: 391
?????????????????
I can conclude, Wes Welker is GOD!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I'm not saying RB is just a 3rd down back but you need to ask yourself your own question. 3rd down backs don't get drafted except by mistake in the 1st round. They are much closer to getting drafted in the 4th like DD.
wicked_wayz
all blacks
TFL
Waterboy
Ok, and if there was no sack on Culpepper the staduim would not have exploded the team would not have been pumped, and you never know what would have happened in that drive. If he did not get that sack they would have not been in a 3 and +10 to go. Which would have increased there chances of continuing that drive would have increased. So he might not have scored a GW TD that for a Defensive player is like making a GW play.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I've been saying from jump that we shouldn't take Reggie with the #1 overall.
He wasn't the best running back on that team, & he wasn't the best WR on that team. I wonder had Reggie gone back for his senior year, would he be the guy??
Does his college accomplishments make him a first rounder??
I don't know. But I can think of alot of players I'd have rather had than ReggieBush.
LBC_Justin
Rookie
If I am not mistaken Reggie Bush is an actor specializing in making comercials. On sundays he plays football, his primary position is decoy, which he is a probowler at....if you ask the media.
Congrats to Bush for the TD. I am sure that took a lot of the pressure off and made him look like less of an on field disappointment. I am soooooooo glad the Texans passed on him and went with Defense.
hope he picks up his running game, or he has seen his last big pay day.
ps: No way Kubiak takes a Running Back in the first round. That would shock me.
Hottoddie
Veteran
Hmmmm...., I wonder if Reggie will even get to the 50 "all purpose yards" mark against a very strong Philadelphia defense? I love how ESPN is really reaching when they list his "all purpose yards", because his rushing & receiving yards only average out to 84 yards per game. Yea', that's right, he's the best RB since Gale Sayers & Barry Sanders. Right now, Bush couldn't even carry their used jock straps.
Reggie Bush is AVERAGE!!!
Reggie Bush is AVERAGE!!!
DCSaints_fan
Practice Squad
Yeah Reggies rush game has been disappointing. However I think some are took quick too judge. Sure there were guys like Sanders and Faulk who came in the league and starting averaging 5.0 a carry. But Tomlinson and Walter Payton only averaged 3.5-3.6 their rookie years. I think you need to give more time before you say that he can't run from scrimmage.
Yeah, the big 3 (Bush, Vince, Matt) played very well today.
Now about Bush, I'm going to go out and say he's officially not the RB we'd thought he'd be. He damn sure isn't Barry Sanders I'll tell you that much. Right now, he looks like a great reciever, great returner, and an OK runningback. RBs are instant impact players, so I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say this. He was easily stuffed on 2 goaline attempts against the Falcons.
Brian Westbrook is a perfect comparison. There's a reason Andy Ried throws so much and it's because 1) Brian Westbrook is an excellent passing threat and 2) Brian Westbrook is not a good runningback. He just can't push the pile like a big runningback can and goes down really easily. He doesn't break tackles or get the tough inside yards. There are times when it looks like he could fall down if someone breathed too hard on him. Now for the record, Bush is a much better player than Westbrook I think.
Bush is still awsome in the open field, but when the heck does a runningback get a chance to get in the open field? Not many. He's a hard guy to catch, but not much of a threat to break tackles off the line-of-scrimmage and break it to the n-zone (which is what everyone thought). Besides today's punt return, all the Bush highlights have been with him doing his best Steve Smith impression at WR. I haven't seen anything from him when it comes to running the football. I don't know how good/bad that Oline is, but McCallister doesn't seem to have any problems with it. McCallister is definitely not leaving New Orleans any time soon. Still early in the season, but what I've said has been accurate thus far. I'd rather see a guy who can consistently get me yards than a guy who's going to potentially break it to the n-zone once every 4-5 games.
Now about Bush, I'm going to go out and say he's officially not the RB we'd thought he'd be. He damn sure isn't Barry Sanders I'll tell you that much. Right now, he looks like a great reciever, great returner, and an OK runningback. RBs are instant impact players, so I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say this. He was easily stuffed on 2 goaline attempts against the Falcons.
Brian Westbrook is a perfect comparison. There's a reason Andy Ried throws so much and it's because 1) Brian Westbrook is an excellent passing threat and 2) Brian Westbrook is not a good runningback. He just can't push the pile like a big runningback can and goes down really easily. He doesn't break tackles or get the tough inside yards. There are times when it looks like he could fall down if someone breathed too hard on him. Now for the record, Bush is a much better player than Westbrook I think.
Bush is still awsome in the open field, but when the heck does a runningback get a chance to get in the open field? Not many. He's a hard guy to catch, but not much of a threat to break tackles off the line-of-scrimmage and break it to the n-zone (which is what everyone thought). Besides today's punt return, all the Bush highlights have been with him doing his best Steve Smith impression at WR. I haven't seen anything from him when it comes to running the football. I don't know how good/bad that Oline is, but McCallister doesn't seem to have any problems with it. McCallister is definitely not leaving New Orleans any time soon. Still early in the season, but what I've said has been accurate thus far. I'd rather see a guy who can consistently get me yards than a guy who's going to potentially break it to the n-zone once every 4-5 games.
DCSaints_fan
Practice Squad
I don't think that Reggie necessarily has to be a plow through everyone type running back in order to be a useful. Did you see the Chargers/Stellers game today - they mentioned how the Chargers used Michael Turner as a between the tackles type, so Tomlinson could be more of a finesse back. I think it might evolve into a similiar situation with Reggie/Deuce.
Who really knows what kind of running back Reggie Bush is going to be in the NFL. How many plays do you think they really run for Reggie as the guy??
Duece is a big up the middle you can't bring him down Tailback.
REggie isn't.
How much playing time do you think Reggie get's with the first team??
of course you can say well, what about Maroney, or what about DAngelo??
Maroney is a better Dillon, younger, fresher legs... DAngelo is a younger better Foster.
If Reggie was in Washington, or Atlanta, he'd be doing a lot better.
I honestly don't know why he isn't stretching the field with that speed though.
The difference, is that Tomlinson is an all around back, and can take it between the tackles as well. When he is on the field, you don't know which way he's going to go.
With Reggie, you can just cover the outsides, going up the middle, he ain't going too far.
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
you are correct.
R
real
Guest
I don't understand why we have to degrade one player to lift up the other...IMO, Leinart, Young, Mario, and Bush have done pretty much what their teams have asked of them...nothing more...nothing less....All of them seem to have pretty bright futures if they can just stay on track....And one thing that you certainly can't judge them on is their "stats"...Who honestly expected these guys to come out and play like veterans ? to totally dominate from day 1? ...
I understand what you are saying. It is the media that has created a dislike for Reggie (for me anyway), and that what makes me mad. Reggie seems like a great young man, who is an exciting talent, but the media seems to change the rules for him and that is what I don't like. Example now we keep all purpose yards- rushing, receiving, and punt returns. It used to be rushing and recieving, but now the media adds punt returns to justify their stance. Dante Hall used to do all three Receiver, Run reverses, punt returns and return kicks, but his were list individual or the Returns combined as return yards, never all-purpose. They seem to create stats to help justify their placing him as the new diety of football. Reggie had a great punt return and props to him. But now it is a game ending return (by the media), but there was still 4:18 left in the game. Shepard's Int return for a TD in the closing seconds is a game ending play not his Int with 3+ minutes left.
I know this shouldn't suprise me, the media has done it before (Vick, Carter and others) and they will do it again. Just wish they would cover the game, and show the highlights. Quit trying to force me to believe who they think is the greatest, and let me decide who is the best by the play on the field.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Why is any comment that isn't glowing about Bush taken as degrading him? For instance, it seems like a perfectly legitimate observation to note as McClain and the 610 am guys just did (and I did watching the game) that Bush's return was one of the best blocked, most straight forward returns ever--pick a side and run, no cuts, no broken tackles. That is observing the game. Noting he is racking up receptions (and thereby helping his team) but the majority are short is fact not degrading. I don't get why Bush is a taboo subject unless it is to genuflect to him.
texan279
Hall of Fame
My deal with the Bush thing is he was and still is so hyped and everyone dogged us for not drafting him because he would have "helped our running game so much". Well he has done jack squat to this point as a running back, which IMO if I pick a guy #1 or #2 overall, I want him to be a running back first then punt returner or receiver second. All of the hype about this triple threat and to date he has scored 1 TD on a punt return in 5 games and hasn't done anything for the Saint's running game.
R
real
Guest
Honestly man...I think you mis-heard what they said, and your mind is already set to be mad at the media so in your mind what they actually said got twisted...Because when I heard about the game they called it a game "winning" touchdown...not game "ending"....To call it game ending doesn't really make sense....and I can't really see them referring to it that way.....
What I don't understand is....why you expect the media to do something otherwise....They are going to market what makes money....Reggie is what makes money....nothing more...nothing less.....
R
real
Guest
I agree...the run wasn't all that impressive.....I kept waiting for a move or something and all he did was run straight....
And talking bad about Reggie isn't taboo...and I've read many post that have been negative about Bush...so although it may "seem" that it is a taboo subject...it's really not....and thats kind of besides the point anyways...What I meant was.... why do we have to bring up one players name in a negative light to try and build up another player.....totally different from just talking negatively about a player....
Honestly I heard it called both game winning and game ending (by Chris Collinsworth, so I guess I should take that with a grain of salt).
Because they would make money off the NFL even if they didn't display their huge men crushes on certain players (not just Reggie). But I guess I should just get use to it, but I can't.......Sorry.
R
real
Guest
Reggie isn't the first player they've hyped to super stardom before he proved himslef....
Look at Lebron James....He was hyped unbelievably before he had done anything too....Vick....They hype players every year....
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Totally agree with that. It's going to happen though no matter how silly it is.
& both of them produced just like the hype suggested as rookies, & then some.
Nothing against Reggie, but once in a lifetime??
DD as a backup had better stats than Reggie as a rookie so far.
texan279
Hall of Fame
Vick had a good 2nd year in the NFL but really has done nothing spectacular as a QB in 6 seasons except for what he has done with his legs.
which was what everybody expected, what the hype was all about.
R
real
Guest
Kyss....what exactly does that mean? prove? determine?
Does that mean Reggie sucks?
Does it prove Mario doesn't ?
Does that determine who the better players will be in the long run ?
If you can't answer yes to any of those questions then whats really the point of that statement? What does that mean ??? All I said was that there have been others hyped....I never said all those players lived up to the hype...I never said that there haven't been second rounders better than first rounders....
texan279
Hall of Fame
Sorry, but if I draft a QB #1 overall, I want a QB, not a running back who plays QB. Just like with Bush, if I draft a RB #2 overall, I want a running back, not a punt returner.
R
real
Guest
Well Im pretty sure those respective coaches would respect your opinion(or not)....But obviously they felt that at the time those respective players were worth the pick...and thats all it boils down to...not what positon they play...it's how that pick helps them win....and I'm not saying whether or not said player is helping his team win....all I'm doing is defending the picks themselves....
what was the point of pointing out other players that were hyped before they played in the NFL?? Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to use examples like TimBiakabutuka, BlairThomas, RickyWilliams, or RonDayne??
I'm with you, but the Falcons knew exactly what they were getting when they drafted him, and they knew what they had when the extended him to a $100,000,000 contract even before he completed a full season.
I never would've drafted Vick in the top ten of the draft, much less the #1 overall.
But he was hyped as a running back who can throw, and he is playing well, as a runningback who can throw.
R
real
Guest
No...Those players didn't recieve that amount of hype that Reggie, or Vick or LeBron did...these guys were supposed to revolutionize...and the reason I pointed out that other players have been hyped, is because people are acting like Reggie is the first ESPN poster child...he isn't...and he won't be the last......I am not discussing how good or bad he is...........other players haven't lived up to the hype....thats besides the point......
But you made the comment that DD did better than RB in his 1st year....
ok....
What does that mean??????
He got hyped for revolutionizing a position, & so far, he's not doing much better (if any) than our 4th round pick 4 years ago......
I'm begginning to believe that I don't think on the same wavelength as the rest of you guys. This makes total sense to me, and is completely relevant. Since this is all about us Passing on REggie Bush. If it doesn't make sense to you, fine, I'll drop it.
R
real
Guest
hmmm.......now thats interesting.....So Kyss....Did you expect Reggie to live up to the hype after 5 games ? I didn't.....Saying that DD had better stats than Reggie in his first whatever games is just like comparing Mario's stats to Manny Lawson's.....or any other random player in the history of the leauge.....DeMeco has played better than A.J Hawk as well.....Marques Colston is on track to have a better rookie year than Andre Johnson and Terrell Owens Combined....What does that mean ??? my answer: nothing
How can you use one players accomplishments to justify whether another player is good??? or will succeed???
You never answered my question...DD had better stats than Reggie has so-far at equal points in their career.....ok.....what does that piece of information mean ???
jerek
Pro Hobbyist
Dude this is a message board designed for debate. If I or anyone else thinks that Reggie Bush isn't performing up to his deified expectations and doesn't deserve a 30-minute weekly Sportscenter highlight reel for 3.1 YPC, then why can't we state that without you and a handful of other posters swinging a kung fu kick at us off of Reggie's jock?
Seems to me you are really stretching to perceive an ulterior, all-consuming hatred in any non-glowing comment made about RB.
Agreed that so far, almost all of the rookie's are living up to expectations -- my expectations, at any rate -- VY is showing some early season chops, Reggie finally showed us a glimpse of this much-vaunted "playmaker ability," Mario finally notched a sack or two, Leinart looked very good as a rookie, and all of them are demonstrating some improvement.
I or anyone else can disagree with your premise -- whatever it is, since you seem content only to knock down any poster who doesn't say that Reggie will redefine the NFL. I think Reggie is Brian Westbrook, period point blank, end of story. At best a good back and a must-respect speed threat who if properly gameplanned for is going to be eaten up by good defenses.
R
real
Guest
Jerek...You or anyone else can have, state, or announce whatever opinion you have.....Can I not do the same??? And I honestly don't care if you talk bad about Bush's game...I just find it hilarious that some try and use negative things one player has done to make another one look good...especially when all the players have played on about the same level.....and Jerek it may "seem" as if everytime someone says something negative about Bush I defend him...But what "seems" like and what actually is are two totally different things......so Im sorry if it "seems" that way, but that isn't my problem....I have not said one positive thing about Bush in this thread....In fact I talked about how un-impressive his TD was....So for you to suggest that Im "swinging from Bush's Jock strap" is hilarious in itself.....
R
real
Guest
I didn't. All the ESPN guys & MarshallFaulk did. Chris Collinsworth saying he is going to do the exact same thing in the NFl that he's been able to do in College. He did none of the things to make him a #1 overall pick as a RB, or as a WR, now we are seeing why he should not have been a consideration.
Manny Lawson is an OLB in a 3-4 defense. Last I checked, 4 out of the 5 players on their defensive line have 2 sacks & nine tackles, or something similar, so he is playing up to par with other's in his system, in very similar situations.
IF Reggie was on this team(if you remember, a lot of guys wanted us to draft him) with those stats, he would be a dissappointment, I can say this, because DD did pretty much what Reggie is doing, and we were disappointed. (I wasn't, but the more football savvy guys were/are).
That means N.O. & the Texans had pretty good drafts considering the company you are putting them in. Of course, it is up to the player to continue to perforem at said levels, and looking at those guys, I can't see any reason to believe they won't. Just like I have little reason to believe Reggie will perform any differently than he has.
For running backs in Houston, DD has set the bar. Our next Running Back has to produce better than DD. Period.
First, not necessarily better stats, but comparable. Houston Fans weren't happy with those stats from DD, he's an avg back, and would never be anything more(not my feelings) Reggie is pretty much the same.... he's got more speed, but it isn't helping him any more than DDs will to succeed.
Which wouldn't be bad, if Reggie can keep his knees together. Westbrooks only real flaw.
well that, and he can't run the ball, forcing McChoke to have to throw, and give up the game.
I'm sorry, I didn't mention my point about this statement. If Duece wasn't playing like he is behind the same offensive line, then I'd give REggie some slack. But I can think of 2 TDs, and atleast a nother 20-30 ypg Duece would've had if the Saints weren't trying so hard to get Reggie "involved" in a game.
R
real
Guest
Yeah I agree....at this point it seems like Reggie is hurting their offense more than he's helping....I just don't know whether it's the teams fault or Reggie's....
But Reggie isn't the starting RB because he isn't the best RB on the team....and he isn't a starting WR because he isn't the best WR on the team....But that doesn't mean that he will or won't have future success....
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
Although I think Bush was a safer pick by the Texans, the early returns don't necessarily support that. Bush is struggling at hitting the interior holes and gaps. He is having problems getting around the corner off a handoff. To be a true #1 back you have to be able to do both of those things.
Currently he is a great utility player and looks like he will have a similar career in stats and game impact as Eric Metcalf. Is that worth the #1 pick overall? That is the million dollar question. Metcalf was great and probably single handedly won the Browns about 5-7 games in a 3 year span. Is that enough production for #1 pick money and salary cap impact?
Bush has already pretty much won one game for the Saints in his first 5 tries...that is on par with Metcalf's impact and has been an asset in every game for a team that has gone 4-1. That is already doubling last year's win total in Week 5. Seems like if your a Saints fan you are happy with the pick and if you passed on him (like we did) we try and microanalyze Bush's impact and production in order to somehow validate our choice of Mario. Bottom line is Saints sucked last year and drafted Bush and are now looking like a bonafide playoff team. Does that mean Mario sucks or that we screwed up? No. It just means that the Saints made the right pick for their team. Period.
*drinks beer* Cheers. Here is to Mario being a commodity for years to come and helping Carr and Co. lead the team to greater glory.
Doug From The Woodlands
Currently he is a great utility player and looks like he will have a similar career in stats and game impact as Eric Metcalf. Is that worth the #1 pick overall? That is the million dollar question. Metcalf was great and probably single handedly won the Browns about 5-7 games in a 3 year span. Is that enough production for #1 pick money and salary cap impact?
Bush has already pretty much won one game for the Saints in his first 5 tries...that is on par with Metcalf's impact and has been an asset in every game for a team that has gone 4-1. That is already doubling last year's win total in Week 5. Seems like if your a Saints fan you are happy with the pick and if you passed on him (like we did) we try and microanalyze Bush's impact and production in order to somehow validate our choice of Mario. Bottom line is Saints sucked last year and drafted Bush and are now looking like a bonafide playoff team. Does that mean Mario sucks or that we screwed up? No. It just means that the Saints made the right pick for their team. Period.
*drinks beer* Cheers. Here is to Mario being a commodity for years to come and helping Carr and Co. lead the team to greater glory.
Doug From The Woodlands
LBC_Justin
Rookie
I think everyone agrees the guy is going to be a good NFL player.
The main problem that people in Houston have is that for months the Texans were treated like retards and moron for passing on the great Reggie Bush.
He was billed as...
"Once in a Lifetime type player"
"The best player in a Generation"
"a once in 30 years type player"
seriously sit down and think about what a "Once in a Lifetime type player" would actually be. He would have to start out as a probowler! He would have to start destroying teams and taking over games from the beginning of his career. There could be no excuses. He was billed as that good.
He doesn't even look like he is the best running back in his draft class, maybe #3 or #4....maybe. Forget about the best player in the last 10, 20, 50 years.
That is the reason Bush catches a lot of crap on these boards.
Heres my two cents:
ESPN and the media invest their credibility into promoting Reggie. He was one of the greatest college athletes of all time, and his marketability is sky high. As a result, ESPN and the media show replays of everything he does because they know that it appeals to the majority of NFL fans.
ESPN is a business, and even if Mario has 5 sacks in a game and Reggie only scores 1 TD, Reggie will get the footage because there are about 100x more Bush fans than Williams fans. Is it right? Probably not, but unless you want to live in a socialist society, you have to realize that the media will market players who are marketable, and that means Reggie. Texans fans don't matter to the marketing executives, because frankly, outside of Houston and the surrounding area, there are practically zero.
Now onto his production. Is he doing amazing? Nope. In fact, as a running back, he's still adjusting to the NFL and doing it slower than most other rookies. But he is doing very well as a receiver, and leading the league in receptions. He's not putting up huge statistics, but the NO saints were the 2nd worst team in the NFL last year, and they are now 4-1 this year. Are defenses keying on him as much as the announcers would have you believe? Probably not. Is it the coaching change? Probably so. Maybe he is simply INSPIRING his team with his attitude. Whatever it is, something has CHANGED the NO Saints, and they are now a winning team.
So in summary,
1. Quit complaining about Reggie publicity because ESPN and the media have to do it. They invested in him, the public loves him, and we are going to see a lot of him.
2. Quit bashing him to build up Mario Williams. Only MW's performance will determine the value of this pick. No matter how well or poorly Bush performs, only MW's performance validates MW's pick.
3. Quit saying RB is doing amazing. So far, he's been average to below average.
4. Quit saying RB is a bust. He's played 5 games, is leading the league in receptions, and has 1 game winning punt return TD.
5. Quit trying to argue that MWs sack was more important than Reggies game winning TD. MWs sack may have changed the tone of the game, but Reggies TD directly won the game for them.
And finally, quit reading this thread if it makes you angry! Its one thread on a messageboard FILLED with other threads. You don't HAVE to read it if you really hate the guy so much
ESPN and the media invest their credibility into promoting Reggie. He was one of the greatest college athletes of all time, and his marketability is sky high. As a result, ESPN and the media show replays of everything he does because they know that it appeals to the majority of NFL fans.
ESPN is a business, and even if Mario has 5 sacks in a game and Reggie only scores 1 TD, Reggie will get the footage because there are about 100x more Bush fans than Williams fans. Is it right? Probably not, but unless you want to live in a socialist society, you have to realize that the media will market players who are marketable, and that means Reggie. Texans fans don't matter to the marketing executives, because frankly, outside of Houston and the surrounding area, there are practically zero.
Now onto his production. Is he doing amazing? Nope. In fact, as a running back, he's still adjusting to the NFL and doing it slower than most other rookies. But he is doing very well as a receiver, and leading the league in receptions. He's not putting up huge statistics, but the NO saints were the 2nd worst team in the NFL last year, and they are now 4-1 this year. Are defenses keying on him as much as the announcers would have you believe? Probably not. Is it the coaching change? Probably so. Maybe he is simply INSPIRING his team with his attitude. Whatever it is, something has CHANGED the NO Saints, and they are now a winning team.
So in summary,
1. Quit complaining about Reggie publicity because ESPN and the media have to do it. They invested in him, the public loves him, and we are going to see a lot of him.
2. Quit bashing him to build up Mario Williams. Only MW's performance will determine the value of this pick. No matter how well or poorly Bush performs, only MW's performance validates MW's pick.
3. Quit saying RB is doing amazing. So far, he's been average to below average.
4. Quit saying RB is a bust. He's played 5 games, is leading the league in receptions, and has 1 game winning punt return TD.
5. Quit trying to argue that MWs sack was more important than Reggies game winning TD. MWs sack may have changed the tone of the game, but Reggies TD directly won the game for them.
And finally, quit reading this thread if it makes you angry! Its one thread on a messageboard FILLED with other threads. You don't HAVE to read it if you really hate the guy so much
I totally disagree with you here. Deuce may be good, but if he was #1 the entire game, getting all the carries and catches that Reggie is getting, his production would be much worse. Deuce is a great player, but he is very injury proned, is not a great receiver, and probably isn't conditioned to be a 30+ carry a game back at this point.
Bringing Reggie in spells Deuce, gives them a complete change of pace, provides them with a great 3rd down RB, and allows Deuce to prevent getting hurt.
The Saints have a perfect running back by committee at this point:
Deuce gets 20+ carries a game, catches maybe 1-2 passes
RB gets 5-10 carries a game, catches 5-10 passes.
Both of their production is inflated by having the other on the team, not the other way around.