You would have to ask Florio's source.Are you serious?
who did he ask? McNair? Caserio? Easterby?
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You would have to ask Florio's source.Are you serious?
who did he ask? McNair? Caserio? Easterby?
Checkout PFTLink please?
well with some it wasn't because they were better lolTrue..Most teams have done better than the Texans with cap space etc..
You want to send an elite franchise QB to a team you play two times a year?i wanna know does watson wanna be here long term like in 4 years ..??? buts that another story
i do think unless the jags want him we should keep him in texans
I'm just saying he put it out there.Now you're giving Florio credit for having meaningful insight?
yeah u gotta roll the dice watson will be on a bad jags team tho and i think a trevor led texans team could beat anybody including watson and the jagsYou want to send an elite franchise QB to a team you play two times a year?
I think he's speculating again, just like you do. He's been proven to be full of hot air before...I'm just saying he put it out there.
It had to come from somebody unless you just think he's making stuff up.
I dont think he is. If you do then you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
You would have to ask Florio's source.
No. He never asked any one who matters about a trade.Checkout PFT
Me too. I hate to admit to myself that we have to go through hell to get through hell. Next year is going to be painful but at least we’ll have draft picks to show for it afterward. Go 2023.I'm really ok to see what a new GM and coach will do with what they can work with. I like Watson and want to see what he can do with the right cast..
I'm just telling you what was on his site.I think he's speculating again, just like you do. He's been proven to be full of hot air before...
You keep stating it as if it's fact and not crediting Florio... as it's your own thoughtsI'm just telling you what was on his site.
I'm not the person speculating.
I thought somewhere in this I stated I credited PFT and Florio.You keep stating it as if it's fact and not crediting Florio... as it's your own thoughts
No, he said there were rumblings, no actual evidence.I thought somewhere in this I stated I credited PFT and Florio.
Florio reported this. That's a fact.
Is this good enough for you?
“Individual Advisors.”DW4 was on the committee.
You dont think DW4 voiced who he wanted to be the next GM/HC?
He didn’t ask for a trade.Why do you think he asked for a trade?
They called it a search committee.“Individual Advisors.”
Not committee.
Texans: Team is relying on individual advisors, not a committee
In response to the report that the Texans have formed a five-person advisory committee to assist the formal search committee in its effort to find a new G.M. and head coach, the Texans say that it&…www.google.com
I agree with you but Jags prob like Trevor plus the other picks they have over Watson but I could be wrong.yeah u gotta roll the dice watson will be on a bad jags team tho and i think a trevor led texans team could beat anybody including watson and the jags
There have been updates that Watson did contact team owners quietly about trade; add that to CAL allegedly reaching out to Watson without response.He didn’t ask for a trade.
It was “reported” that Watson may have spoken to teammates quietly that he could possibly ask for a trade.
"Rumors already are circulating," Mike Florio writes. "And we’ve already heard them from multiple different people, that Watson has quietly broached with teammates the possibility of requesting a trade.”
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Watson is on vacation. Where did you see updates?There have been updates that Watson did contact team owners quietly about trade; add that to CAL allegedly reaching out to Watson without response.
What updates?There have been updates that Watson did contact team owners quietly about trade; add that to CAL allegedly reaching out to Watson without response.
The updates on TexansTalk of course.What updates?
The imaginary kind?The updates on TexansTalk of course.
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You would have to ask Florio's source.
Source?There have been updates that Watson did contact team owners quietly about trade; add that to CAL allegedly reaching out to Watson without response.
Again, several "reports"
DW4 never said he told his teammates that he requested a trade. If he said anything to a teammate it was “he could possibly request a trade.” Per Florio. And he “quietly suggested it”. So I think they were in a library or something.They called it a search committee.
Cal/ Easterby/DW4/Pancakes
If you want to play semantics fine. He told other players he would like to be traded and hasn't said anything to mg mt yet. Also he was an advisor and Cal chose not to take DW4's advice.
In a libraryDW4 never said he told his teammates that he requested a trade. If he said anything to a teammate it was “he could possibly request a trade.” Per Florio. And he “quietly suggested it”. So I think they were in a library or something.
That’s not semantics.
There are comments on all the major news sources for sports PFF, ESPN, Fox sports, Yahoo sports, the local radio stations, people in New York and Florida, etc. it's all over everywhere. Does not make any of it true but it is conversation. People can either Believe it or disbelieve it or just want to wait and see. But it is conversation that may or may not lead to DeShaun leaving Houston.Source?
No, there are no sources saying Watson spoke to anyone in the FO since Caserio was brought to Houston.There are comments on all the major news sources for sports PFF, ESPN, Fox sports, Yahoo sports, the local radio stations, people in New York and Florida, etc. it's all over everywhere. Does not make any of it true but it is conversation. People can either Believe it or disbelieve it or just want to wait and see. But it is conversation that may or may not lead to DeShaun leaving Houston.
Watson is on vacation with his hot girlfriend and recovering from an underwhelming season by the team. Is Watson pissed b/c he feels the difference between the Texans being a 4 win team versus a 11 win team is a GM and HC? Or, like Watt.....Watson doesn't want to waste his career with the Texans like Watt did and as he knows Andre Johnson did. And/or Watson is realizing he's about to burn the another 2 seasons up for an organizational effort at an express rebuild? He saw how Hopkins got out and may be using a similar effort to push himself out as well.There are comments on all the major news sources for sports PFF, ESPN, Fox sports, Yahoo sports, the local radio stations, people in New York and Florida, etc. it's all over everywhere. Does not make any of it true but it is conversation. People can either Believe it or disbelieve it or just want to wait and see. But it is conversation that may or may not lead to DeShaun leaving Houston.
TK come on you know individuals inside the Texans organization and other sports franchises are sources all the time. They just don't like the reports to come back to them. The Texans do leak info to certain people who report it. That is happen for you. That is how basketball and NFL work all the time. Certainly there are reporters, analysts and Talking Heads who make up stuff but that does not mean there are not things being said between Watson and the administration. DeShaun being on vacation does not have anything to do with him or his Representatives making contact with The Texans. Cal McNair would be a source and he did say that he has reached out to Watson and has not received any Reply. Maybe not to you but it does indicate to me that McNair is at least aware of DeShaun Watson possible unhappiness. It would seem logical that if DeShaun was not unhappy all he or if he was too occupied in Mexico his Agent to pick up the phone and say Cal no worries!No, there are no sources saying Watson spoke to anyone in the FO since Caserio was brought to Houston.
None.
Yep and they do have cell phone and Wi-Fi connectivity in Mexico the last I heard.Watson is on vacation with his hot girlfriend and recovering from an underwhelming season by the team. Is Watson pissed b/c he feels the difference between the Texans being a 4 win team versus a 11 win team is a GM and HC? Or, like Watt.....Watson doesn't want to waste his career with the Texans like Watt did and as he knows Andre Johnson did. And/or Watson is realizing he's about to burn the another 2 seasons up for an organizational effort at an express rebuild? He saw how Hopkins got out and may be using a similar effort to push himself out as well.
You must not have seen pictures of the girl friend...He is connected. But not to WiFiYep and they do have cell phone and Wi-Fi connectivity in Mexico the last I heard.
LOL actually I brought the first pictures of his girlfriend to the this message board.You must not have seen pictures of the girl friend...He is connected. But not to WiFi
There isn’t a source reporting even rumors of contact between Watson & the Texans since Caserio had been in Houston. If you are saying there is such a report we’re asking you to produce a link.TK come on you know individuals inside the Texans organization and other sports franchises are sources all the time.
First as has been said rumors, innuendos and one source quoting another that quoted another. Stale info often but many think "smoke.. fire". Much is clickbait.There isn’t a source reporting even rumors of contact between Watson & the Texans since Caserio had been in Houston. If you are saying there is such a report we’re asking you to produce a link.
The added tension has now led to trade rumors. There have been reports that Watson has quietly asked for a trade from the organization. Pro Football Talk reporter Mike Florio reported that it was a possibility.
Also from Florio: Watson discussing with players (but not Texans). Rumors but sometimes rumors lead to truth. From 247sports. Steven TarantoRumors already are circulating, and we’ve already heard from multiple different people, that Watson has quietly broached with teammates the possibility of requesting a trade,” Florio wrote in a Thursday report. “If that’s happening, it may just be a strategic effort to ensure his views are respected by ownership. Regardless, it raises the stakes and crosses a bridge and potentially sets the foundation for Watson eventually to decide that he’d like to continue his career elsewhere.”
bold could indicate he had talked recently and stopped after the hiring of Caserio. It might not but it could. https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-south/houston-texans/deshaun-watson-reportedly-hasnt-spoken-to-texans-front-office-in-daysFrom Fanduel
According to multiple reports, Watson is upset with the Texans’ brass for failing to include him in the process of hiring new general manager Nick Caserio. It is now apparent that Watson’s cryptic Tuesday night tweet which set off mild panic within the fanbase was indeed directed at the team.
Per NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, Watson has not spoken to Houston’s front office in the last few days, although members of the organization have tried to call him.
I’m not following. Are you saying that if he said, “I don’t know Keke, I might ask for a trade.”Again I am not saying Dashaun asked for a trade but sources are saying he did.
I am saying it is possible He talked to players about why he is upset. "They told me they would listened to my input. They told me they were changing "culture" and how they have historically done things. They gave me millions and want me to be face of the team but look what they did. I am not happy. What do you guys think about me asking out of here to where I am appreciated?" I think JJ Watt could be of those players and I think they both respect each other. Add in the dynamic if not necessarily understood tweets recently and a year ago IIRC. I think it is possible Dashaun's unhappiness was made known whether he called or emailed or texted CAL or not. McNair saying he has reached out to Watson with no reply from #4 does not say Dashaun asked for a trade but does indicate if not resolved it could lead to DW forcing his way out. I still believe he is PO about Hop.I’m not following. Are you saying that if he said, “I don’t know Keke, I might ask for a trade.”
that constitutes as asking for a trade? Because everything you posted pretty much saysDW4 has not spoken to the Texans.
This is the only thing I’m arguing. There is nothing supporting this. Not even rumors.There have been updates that Watson did contact team owners quietly about trade;
I wouldn't if I was Watson and I would advise against it if I was his agent.TK come on you know individuals inside the Texans organization and other sports franchises are sources all the time. They just don't like the reports to come back to them. The Texans do leak info to certain people who report it. That is happen for you. That is how basketball and NFL work all the time. Certainly there are reporters, analysts and Talking Heads who make up stuff but that does not mean there are not things being said between Watson and the administration. DeShaun being on vacation does not have anything to do with him or his Representatives making contact with The Texans. Cal McNair would be a source and he did say that he has reached out to Watson and has not received any Reply. Maybe not to you but it does indicate to me that McNair is at least aware of DeShaun Watson possible unhappiness. It would seem logical that if DeShaun was not unhappy all he or if he was too occupied in Mexico his Agent to pick up the phone and say Cal no worries!
Quoted for truthWatson is on vacation with his hot girlfriend and recovering from an underwhelming season by the team. Is Watson pissed b/c he feels the difference between the Texans being a 4 win team versus a 11 win team is a GM and HC? Or, like Watt.....Watson doesn't want to waste his career with the Texans like Watt did and as he knows Andre Johnson did. And/or Watson is realizing he's about to burn the another 2 seasons up for an organizational effort at an express rebuild? He saw how Hopkins got out and may be using a similar effort to push himself out as well.
Thank YouLOL actually I brought the first pictures of his girlfriend to the this message board.
Sounds exactly like something a childish narcissist would do.I wouldn't if I was Watson and I would advise against it if I was his agent.
Let me lay a scenario out for you.
Watson is chilling in Cabo pretending that football is still just something he plays for fun when he hears the news about Caserio. Maybe he's pissed, maybe he's not but either way he's already got people blowing up his phone asking what he thinks. Now Watson wants more say in who his HC will be, any QB would, and he knows he can use this just by going radio silent. Maybe he could, and does, send sends out another cryptic tweet because he saw what happened with his last one after Hopkins was traded. Or maybe while checking his phone to catch up he learns about the Blake ruling or maybe he sees how close the Georgia run off is or maybe he realizes he can kill a bunch of birds with one tweet. So he sends out another cryptic tweet that says nothing and can apply to everything from wanting a trade to him naming his favorite song from Frozen 2. (I have a two year old and lots of young nieces and nephews so yes I know the Disney songs that well.)
Then he just sits back and lets the media do what they do and run wild with the story and do his job for him. Texans start to feel pressured because they finally got the GM they have been chasing 3 years and first thing that happens is a national story that Watson is unhappy and wants out. Plus has them on the hook with a big contract and a no trade clause so its not like they can do anything to him. Meanwhile Watson has full plausible deniability because he told them he would be out of pocket and he didn't mean that tweet directed at the Texans it was just unlucky timing and "Oh by the way guys, about that HC search I have a few people I'd like to suggest that I thought up while in Cabo."
I have zero proof of any of this but then no one has had any proof about anything really so why should that get in the way of a good story.
Disagree, sounds like what someone that knows how to play the office politics game would do. You don't have to be the bad guy if you can get the media to do it for you. As a Texans fan I don't like it, as a Machiavelli fan I can respect it.Sounds exactly like something a childish narcissist would do.