TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Ridgeway started in SF’s front four, why wouldn’t Collins?
Rankins has played solid as a starter for the Jets. Why do you think his best days are behind him?
Post Draft 53 Man Roster Prediction (2023)
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Rankins has played solid as a starter for the Jets. Why do you think his best days are behind him?
Texian
Hall of Fame
I would carry Collins/Rankins/Ridgeway/Hinisch/Stallworth or Lopez. Cant ever have to much DL help. Can keep them fresh next yr.
A healthy Collins can start on 90% of NFL teams.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Updated roster prediction:
Valladay is out at RB. Adding Tomlinson at TE. I think Tomlinson brings value as a 6th OL type blocking TE in short yardage situations and think that’s a greater value than another RB unless they can contribute on ST with Pierce and Singletary offense only. We know Ogunbowale is good on ST so I have him as the favorite.
This lineup on offense will be good for a run-focused team. Pierce and Singletary can get 35-40 touches between each other per game with this cast of FBs/TEs supporting.
On defense, Hinish is out at DT. Adding Winovich. Think they’ll prefer an extra DE instead of DT. More versatility for ST and pass rush.
Also, Sheffield is out and Shaq Griffin is in to round out the CB unit.
There will be some tough battles, especially at LB with all the new additions. I debated removing Cashman for Carter or Hewitt but I believe Cashman’s superior speed will be more of an asset on ST.
Also, I currently have Heck as the favorite to be the swing OT but Greg Little if he plays to his potential could take that job.
This is an AFC South contending roster! New additions in bold:
25) Offense
(3) QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
(4) RB: Pierce, Singletary, Ogunbowale, Hairston
(6) WR: Woods, Collins, Metchie, Brown, Dell, Hutchinson
(4) TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Beck, Tomlinson
(3) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Heck
(3) OG: Green, Mason, Patterson
(2) OC: Scruggs, Deiter
(25) Defense:
(5) DE: Anderson, Greenard, Hughes, Horton, Winovich
(4) DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez
(3) OLB: Harris, Littleton, Cashman
(3) MLB: Perryman, Kirksey, To’o To’o
(5) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Griffin
(3) SS: Ward, Stewart, Hill
(2) FS: Pitre, Murray
(3) Specialists:
(1) K: Fairbairn
(1) P: Johnston
(1) LS: Weeks
Valladay is out at RB. Adding Tomlinson at TE. I think Tomlinson brings value as a 6th OL type blocking TE in short yardage situations and think that’s a greater value than another RB unless they can contribute on ST with Pierce and Singletary offense only. We know Ogunbowale is good on ST so I have him as the favorite.
This lineup on offense will be good for a run-focused team. Pierce and Singletary can get 35-40 touches between each other per game with this cast of FBs/TEs supporting.
On defense, Hinish is out at DT. Adding Winovich. Think they’ll prefer an extra DE instead of DT. More versatility for ST and pass rush.
Also, Sheffield is out and Shaq Griffin is in to round out the CB unit.
There will be some tough battles, especially at LB with all the new additions. I debated removing Cashman for Carter or Hewitt but I believe Cashman’s superior speed will be more of an asset on ST.
Also, I currently have Heck as the favorite to be the swing OT but Greg Little if he plays to his potential could take that job.
This is an AFC South contending roster! New additions in bold:
25) Offense
(3) QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
(4) RB: Pierce, Singletary, Ogunbowale, Hairston
(6) WR: Woods, Collins, Metchie, Brown, Dell, Hutchinson
(4) TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Beck, Tomlinson
(3) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Heck
(3) OG: Green, Mason, Patterson
(2) OC: Scruggs, Deiter
(25) Defense:
(5) DE: Anderson, Greenard, Hughes, Horton, Winovich
(4) DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez
(3) OLB: Harris, Littleton, Cashman
(3) MLB: Perryman, Kirksey, To’o To’o
(5) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Griffin
(3) SS: Ward, Stewart, Hill
(2) FS: Pitre, Murray
(3) Specialists:
(1) K: Fairbairn
(1) P: Johnston
(1) LS: Weeks
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
TBH, I prefer the 3rd string RB to be a young player with upside (the rookie Xazavian Valladay). Also, I believe he has some returner experience in college which would add value to special teams.
Regarding Little and Kirksey, both should be on the first thing smoking out of Hobby or Bush.
Practice squad Valladay if you don't think he's going to beat out Pierce or Singletary.
Kirksey I agree with you, Little I'd like to see compete with Heck for the swing tackle job
sandman
Brexit Advisor
So Deculus, Morrisey, Little, Deatherage and Q are gone? Asking because Oline isn't my space. Wonder if any would get snatched up and contribute elsewhere, or are we still not good enough to have castoffs that people want?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I’d try to get at least three OL on the PS. But I can see Little getting picked up on waivers if they cut him in camp by a team hit by injuries.
One of these guys will make the final 53.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
With Tomlinson cut, I will not add a new TE. Instead I will carry Greg Little as additional OL depth thinking he can’t sit on PS.
Gives team 9 OL and 9 DL on active roster.
Gives team 9 OL and 9 DL on active roster.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I meant Practice Squad rather than waivers. I think a team will pick him up on their 53 man roster if Texans cut him.
Here's ESPN's take on the Texans final roster.
RB (4) Dameon Pierce, Devin Singletary, Mike Boone, Dare Ogunbowale
FB (1) Andrew Beck
WR (6) Robert Woods, Nico Collins, Nathaniel Dell, John Metchie III, Xavier Hutchinson, Noah Brown
TE (3) Dalton Schultz, Teagan Quitoriano, Brevin Jordan
OL (9) Laremy Tunsil, Shaq Mason, Kenyon Green, Michael Deiter, Juice Scruggs, Scott Quessenberry, Jarrett Patterson, Tytus Howard, Charlie Heck
DL (9) Will Anderson Jr., Jonathan Greenard, Maliek Collins, Hassan Ridgeway, Sheldon Rankins, Roy Lopez, Jerry Hughes, Chase Winovich, Dylan Horton
LB (6) Christian Harris, Cory Littleton, Blake Cashman, Christian Kirksey, Henry To'oTo'o, Denzel Perryman
CB (5) Steven Nelson, Shaquill Griffin, Tavierre Thomas, Derek Stingley Jr., Desmond King II
(S) (4) Jimmie Ward, M.J. Stewart, Jalen Pitre, Eric Murray
ST (3) Ka'imi Fairbairn, Cameron Johnston, Jon Weeks
QB (3) C.J. Stroud, Davis Mills, Case Keenum
RB (4) Dameon Pierce, Devin Singletary, Mike Boone, Dare Ogunbowale
FB (1) Andrew Beck
WR (6) Robert Woods, Nico Collins, Nathaniel Dell, John Metchie III, Xavier Hutchinson, Noah Brown
TE (3) Dalton Schultz, Teagan Quitoriano, Brevin Jordan
OL (9) Laremy Tunsil, Shaq Mason, Kenyon Green, Michael Deiter, Juice Scruggs, Scott Quessenberry, Jarrett Patterson, Tytus Howard, Charlie Heck
DL (9) Will Anderson Jr., Jonathan Greenard, Maliek Collins, Hassan Ridgeway, Sheldon Rankins, Roy Lopez, Jerry Hughes, Chase Winovich, Dylan Horton
LB (6) Christian Harris, Cory Littleton, Blake Cashman, Christian Kirksey, Henry To'oTo'o, Denzel Perryman
CB (5) Steven Nelson, Shaquill Griffin, Tavierre Thomas, Derek Stingley Jr., Desmond King II
(S) (4) Jimmie Ward, M.J. Stewart, Jalen Pitre, Eric Murray
ST (3) Ka'imi Fairbairn, Cameron Johnston, Jon Weeks
BullRushTX
Frequently bemused
Not bad. I could see Boone, Ogunbowale, Jordan, Quessenberry, and Lopez not making the cut.
I think this team is still trending younger, and guys like Xazavian Valladay, Brandon Hill, and Austin Deculus make the team
BullRushTX
Frequently bemused
They've brought in leaders for every position, might as well have them train up the young guys. Get a home grown culture going.
I understand the numbers game... kinda liked Troy Hairston though
OzzO
.. and then?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
On Tuesday at 3 PM all the cuts will be made and the 53 man roster will be official. Though knowing Caserio, it will probably change a few times before game 1 again with cut downs and the late round pick trades! Here is my updated prediction:
25) Offense
(3) QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
(4) RB: Pierce, Singletary, Boone, Beck
(6) WR: Woods, Collins, Metchie, Brown, Dell, Hutchinson
(3) TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Tomlinson
(4) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Jones, Fant
(3) OG: Green, Mason, Patterson
(2) OC: Scruggs, Deiter
(25) Defense:
(5) DE: Anderson, Greenard, Hughes, Horton, Martin
(4) DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez
(4) OLB: Harris, Littleton, Kirksey Cashman
(2) MLB: Perryman, To’o To’o
(5) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Griffin
(3) SS: Ward, Stewart, Hill
(2) FS: Pitre, Murray
(3) Specialists:
(1) K: Fairbairn
(1) P: Johnston
(1) LS: Weeks
PUP: Heck, possibly P Johnston
I think/hopw the team can find an upgrade after cuts at TE. I could see the team moving Mills/Keenum and carrying a 3rd QB on the practice squad as well. I like the roster this year, think it’s a good starting point for the DeMeco era. Contending for the AFC South banner this year is the expectation!
25) Offense
(3) QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
(4) RB: Pierce, Singletary, Boone, Beck
(6) WR: Woods, Collins, Metchie, Brown, Dell, Hutchinson
(3) TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Tomlinson
(4) OT: Tunsil, Howard, Jones, Fant
(3) OG: Green, Mason, Patterson
(2) OC: Scruggs, Deiter
(25) Defense:
(5) DE: Anderson, Greenard, Hughes, Horton, Martin
(4) DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez
(4) OLB: Harris, Littleton, Kirksey Cashman
(2) MLB: Perryman, To’o To’o
(5) CB: Stingley, Nelson, Thomas, King, Griffin
(3) SS: Ward, Stewart, Hill
(2) FS: Pitre, Murray
(3) Specialists:
(1) K: Fairbairn
(1) P: Johnston
(1) LS: Weeks
PUP: Heck, possibly P Johnston
I think/hopw the team can find an upgrade after cuts at TE. I could see the team moving Mills/Keenum and carrying a 3rd QB on the practice squad as well. I like the roster this year, think it’s a good starting point for the DeMeco era. Contending for the AFC South banner this year is the expectation!
Texansballer74
The Marine
Dang so you think B Jordan getting cut. Big disappointment there
I think Collins starts over Kinlaw.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I think Schultz and Quitoriano have a spot on this roster. Whoever else at TE at the deadline will likely (hopefully) be upgraded after cutdowns.
It is the weakest position on this roster and Jordan offers no big play ability to go with being a liability as a blocker. If I am only getting 9 YPC from a player they better bring it as a blocker (like Tomlinson).
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Expectation for who? They've still got a lot to prove to be expected contenders. I mean unless you consider 5-7 wins contending. That's what I'm expecting. Not the contending part, the 5-7 wins part.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
9 wins gets the banner imo. I think if things break their way they can get there. 7 or 8 wins would be considered “contending” since they’d be presumably 1st or 2nd winning between 7 and 9 games.
Jags are the rightful favorites for the banner. The Titans, Colts and Texans all are starting from a similar place. Biggest difference between Jags and rest of division is their shiny franchise QB is in his 3rd year while the other teams will have rookies (and Titans have Tannehill for as long as he lasts).
I still think the Titans are the favorites if Tannehill's healthy. They won 9 games last yr with Tannehill as their starting QB.
I think the Jaguars addition of Calvin Ridley plus another year in Peterson's system makes them easy favorites to win the division
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
6-6 with Tannehill last season and roster has gotten worse last two years. The X factor Henry is two years older as well. With no AJ Brown it has only complicated matters, which is why they fired the GM for such an awful decision.
They could be in the mix for the banner… or they could be in the cellar this year. Vrabel is a good HC and gets the most out of his talent. Lots of variance with this year’s division but the end result is the same imo for whoever gets the banner (first round exit).
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Exactly. Jags obviously have the best QB, but the rest of the roster is a bit of a jumbled mess. If Tannehill stays healthy I think it's the Titans all the way.
Titans also have the best run defense in possibly the entire league and are already looking at a schedule with a lot of run heavy teams from the AFC & NFC South.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Was doing a thought exercise of this very subject last night to see what I thought the construction might look like. Obviously there will be a level of unknown variance as I could see us picking up ~3 players cut off other teams. I also go more vague with positions as modern NFL is so fluid with what players in each position are doing, especially when most teams play nickel the majority of the time.
Special Teams: 3
ST: Fairbairn, Weeks, Johnston
Offense: 25
QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
RB: Pierce, Singletary, Boone, Ogunbuwale
WR: Woods, Brown, Dell, Collins, Hutchinson, Metchie
OL: Tunsil, Green, Scruggs, Mason, Howard, Jones, Dieter, Patterson (Fant, Heck)
TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Schreck
FB: Beck
Defense: 25
DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez, Hinish
DE: Anderson, Hughes, Greenard, Martin, Horton
S: Ward, Pitre, Murray, Stewart
LB: Perryman, Harris, Cashman, To'o To'o, Littleton, Kirksey
CB: Stingley, Nelson, King, Thomas, Griffin
Initial things that jump out to me are the amount of guys who are on the cusp or we could look to upgrade which I feel is about 7 (Ogunbuwale, Dieter, Quitoriano, Schreck, Littleton, Kirksey, Griffin). Things like special teams will obviously have a massive effect on this as that's what gives the guys like Ogunbuwale the depth spot on the roster in the first place. It's also why I'm not sure what they'll do with DTs as 5 seems like a lot especially when they're not really special team contributors, but I think they really like all 5 guys.
O-line is also a question as I think they keep 8 but how that works especially with Howard's injury is a mystery. Is Howard simply going to play week 1? Is Jones ready enough to just simply play instead of Fant so he can get cut? Does Heck stay on the PUP list to start the season (probably)? Do they opt to keep Pattersson for fear of another team who had a draftable grade on him scooping him up?
Overall I think they'll probably drop someone on the backend of a position and add a DB, especially for special teams and also because 4 safeties and 5 corners is probably too light. Is Danztler that guy?
Also how serious is Johnston's injury? Do we need to go into week 1 with 2 punters?
There's several teams who look like they're really well stocked with RBs so is one available to us that makes cutting Ogunbuwale viable? I'd like to see it happen but I'm worried we're going to stick with the current group because of special teams.
Can we get a viable TE because everything after Schultz is just a pile of question marks.
Overall we're second on the waiver wire so it's a big opportunity for Nick that I'm hopeful he can take advantage of.
Special Teams: 3
ST: Fairbairn, Weeks, Johnston
Offense: 25
QB: Stroud, Mills, Keenum
RB: Pierce, Singletary, Boone, Ogunbuwale
WR: Woods, Brown, Dell, Collins, Hutchinson, Metchie
OL: Tunsil, Green, Scruggs, Mason, Howard, Jones, Dieter, Patterson (Fant, Heck)
TE: Schultz, Quitoriano, Schreck
FB: Beck
Defense: 25
DT: Collins, Rankins, Ridgeway, Lopez, Hinish
DE: Anderson, Hughes, Greenard, Martin, Horton
S: Ward, Pitre, Murray, Stewart
LB: Perryman, Harris, Cashman, To'o To'o, Littleton, Kirksey
CB: Stingley, Nelson, King, Thomas, Griffin
Initial things that jump out to me are the amount of guys who are on the cusp or we could look to upgrade which I feel is about 7 (Ogunbuwale, Dieter, Quitoriano, Schreck, Littleton, Kirksey, Griffin). Things like special teams will obviously have a massive effect on this as that's what gives the guys like Ogunbuwale the depth spot on the roster in the first place. It's also why I'm not sure what they'll do with DTs as 5 seems like a lot especially when they're not really special team contributors, but I think they really like all 5 guys.
O-line is also a question as I think they keep 8 but how that works especially with Howard's injury is a mystery. Is Howard simply going to play week 1? Is Jones ready enough to just simply play instead of Fant so he can get cut? Does Heck stay on the PUP list to start the season (probably)? Do they opt to keep Pattersson for fear of another team who had a draftable grade on him scooping him up?
Overall I think they'll probably drop someone on the backend of a position and add a DB, especially for special teams and also because 4 safeties and 5 corners is probably too light. Is Danztler that guy?
Also how serious is Johnston's injury? Do we need to go into week 1 with 2 punters?
There's several teams who look like they're really well stocked with RBs so is one available to us that makes cutting Ogunbuwale viable? I'd like to see it happen but I'm worried we're going to stick with the current group because of special teams.
Can we get a viable TE because everything after Schultz is just a pile of question marks.
Overall we're second on the waiver wire so it's a big opportunity for Nick that I'm hopeful he can take advantage of.
Man I love your optimism even though it's way out there but keep it up, it's entertaining.
We are gonna know a lot about this team and it's chances in the 2023 season by the end of September as we will have played both Indy and the Jags.
He looked “impressive” this preseason. Regular season hit & miss, invisible at times, absent all together on others.
he hasn’t been a model of consistency. Then again he’s been carrying Lopez & Heinish.
Henry, Hopkins Okonwu and when healthy Burks are some pretty good weapons and they added to their OL. I think Skoronski is going to be a really good LG. If Dillard can be a serviceable LT and they get Pierre-Fertite (SP) back that's a decent OL and you know that the titans will always have a good defense. It will really come down to Tannehill.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I forgot to factor in Hopkins… oversight this morning. He should still be an above average starter at this stage of his career. But a lot depends on older starters. Hopkins, Henry, Tannehill… Would not be surprised if they won the division or were in the cellar.
I was thinking more of Peterson & Ridley to show the improvement. Lawrence won't cost them too many games
BullRushTX
Frequently bemused
Looks like Kirksey, King, and Lopez got cut. The final 53 might be more surprising than anticipated.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Actually Lopez was waived, and I believe I heard on 610 will receive an injury settlement. If he passes waivers, he could then be resigned and placed on IR. Seems to be a different situation than Kirksey and King, who were given their release.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texans announce initial 53-man roster
The Houston Texans announced their initial 53-man roster for the regular season Tuesday, right on time with the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline.
www.houstontexans.com
#Texans three quarterbacks: C.J. Stroud, Davis Mills, Case Keenum
#Texans six wide receivers: Nico Collins, Robert Woods, John Metchie III, Tank Dell, Xavier Hutchinson and Noah Brown
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Kenyon Green to IR will miss the entire season. What a disaster of a draft pick. I will say that him missing this season is probably the only thing that can save his career whether it's with us or on another team. The dude has to sit down and get healthy, we saw him play last year with one arm and to say it wasn't pretty would be being nice. Him playing this year injured may have put his confidence at rock bottom.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Yeah he really just needs to get healthy, get in shape and then take it from there.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
I wouldn't beat him with a stick considering the first pick made was in the 3rd round. Cleaning up the draft capital mess of O'Brien's mismanagement isn't on him.
That said 2022 and onwards needs to be watched closely now. We had extra capital at those points and Kenyon Green is already looking rough and we have to hope Stingley can stay healthy as well.
BullRushTX
Frequently bemused
The legend of Derek Rivers continues
BullRushTX
Frequently bemused
The remaining linebackers are...interesting:
Harris, Perryman, Cashman
Hansen, To'oTo'o, Hewitt
Harris, Perryman, Cashman
Hansen, To'oTo'o, Hewitt