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[Pick 67] Davis Mills QB Stanford

Speedy

Former Yeller Dweller
OK, how about this: Highest Rated Rookie Passers in NFL history? (with a minimum of 14 passes per game)
1. Dak Prescott - 104.9
2. RG III - 102.4
3. Russell Wilson - 100.0
4. Justin Herbert - 98.3
5. Ben Roethlisberger - 98.1
6. Dan Marino - 96.0
7. Baker Mayfield - 93.7
8. Mac Jones - 92.5
9. Marcus Mariota - 91.5
10. Gardner Minshew - 91.2
11. Nick Mullens - 90.8
12. Joe Burrow - 89.8
13. Davis Mills - 88.8
14. Greg Cook - 88.3
15. Matt Ryan - 87.7
16. Daniel Jones - 87.7
17. Kyler Murray - 87.4
18. Tua Tagovailoa - 87.1
19. Teddy Bridgewater - 85.2
20. Austin Davis - 85.1
21. Cam Newton - 84.5

This does not mean that he's going to be a great quarterback or anything, but it is pretty impressive.
Wait, I didn't say it was great. I don’t think anyone else did either. I only saw the article and posted it. As Pencil Neck points out his numbers are about mid tier of rookie passer rating all time. I mean Dan Mario is on the list he posted.
You guys obviously missed the part about reality. The kid has played in 13 games and you’re comparing him to Dan Marino?? OK.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Mills sets a Texans rookie record, and people are led to believe that’s some kind of great accomplishment,
I go by how the board reacts to such posts.

It was a story someone found & shared. No one suggested a parade or put Davis Mills in a gold jacket. There have been a few responses of the, "good for him" variety.

I don't think anyone is overplaying this "news"
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
You guys obviously missed the part about reality. The kid has played in 13 games and you’re comparing him to Dan Marino?? OK.
Who's missing the part about reality? The numbers are the numbers. Davis Mills has the 13th best rookie passer rating in the history of the NFL. That's the reality. That's the fact.

I'm going to go on a little rant here about comparing people. You can compare any player to any player. Brady to Manning, sure. Brady to the other Manning, sure. Marino to Unitas, sure. Brady to Dave Ragone? Yes. Just because you're comparing two players doesn't mean anyone is saying that they're the same player or that they're going to have the same or even remotely similar careers.

Just because Mills' rookie passer rating is between Joe Burrow (a Bengal QB who's looking pretty good his second year) and Greg Cook (one of the great Bengal QBs) doesn't mean he's going to be a great Bengal quarterback. Just because he's on the same list as Marino doesn't mean he's going to have a Marino-like career. (I really hope he has a better career in terms of winning SBs that Marino.)

Mills is playing in a different time where passing efficiency is much more highly prized than it was back in Marino's day. It was a different game back then, offenses are different and defenses are different. The fact that Marino is so high on that list shows just how great he was, but the fact that today's game is different and that rookies are trained and brought up differently can be seen in the fact that Gardner Minshew and Marcus Mariota are also on that list and are higher than Davis Mills. This list is very skewed toward modern passers because of the differences in the games and the differences in how players are brought along. Roethlisberger really was a harbinger of a new era of rookie quarterbacks where a great coach could make a rookie be efficient and not hurt the team.

These numbers and these comparisons are simply finding something positive about Davis Mills and a craptacular season. Davis Mills has shown some signs of at least being a decent QB. That's all. He can still fail miserably which is why I made the comparison of him to Tom Savage in another thread, not to say he's not already better than Tom Savage but that this might be as good as he gets and it's not good enough.
 

sometexansfan

Blue Bomber
OK, how about this: Highest Rated Rookie Passers in NFL history? (with a minimum of 14 passes per game)
1. Dak Prescott - 104.9
2. RG III - 102.4
3. Russell Wilson - 100.0
4. Justin Herbert - 98.3
5. Ben Roethlisberger - 98.1
6. Dan Marino - 96.0
7. Baker Mayfield - 93.7
8. Mac Jones - 92.5
9. Marcus Mariota - 91.5
10. Gardner Minshew - 91.2
11. Nick Mullens - 90.8
12. Joe Burrow - 89.8
13. Davis Mills - 88.8
14. Greg Cook - 88.3
15. Matt Ryan - 87.7
16. Daniel Jones - 87.7
17. Kyler Murray - 87.4
18. Tua Tagovailoa - 87.1
19. Teddy Bridgewater - 85.2
20. Austin Davis - 85.1
21. Cam Newton - 84.5

This does not mean that he's going to be a great quarterback or anything, but it is pretty impressive.
That's very impressive for Greg Cook, he did that pre 1978 rule changes and with a torn rotator cuff most of his rookie season. Shame that injury derailed his career after that.
 

Earl34

All Pro
OK, how about this: Highest Rated Rookie Passers in NFL history? (with a minimum of 14 passes per game)
1. Dak Prescott - 104.9
2. RG III - 102.4
3. Russell Wilson - 100.0
4. Justin Herbert - 98.3
5. Ben Roethlisberger - 98.1
6. Dan Marino - 96.0
7. Baker Mayfield - 93.7
8. Mac Jones - 92.5
9. Marcus Mariota - 91.5
10. Gardner Minshew - 91.2
11. Nick Mullens - 90.8
12. Joe Burrow - 89.8
13. Davis Mills - 88.8
14. Greg Cook - 88.3
15. Matt Ryan - 87.7
16. Daniel Jones - 87.7
17. Kyler Murray - 87.4
18. Tua Tagovailoa - 87.1
19. Teddy Bridgewater - 85.2
20. Austin Davis - 85.1
21. Cam Newton - 84.5

This does not mean that he's going to be a great quarterback or anything, but it is pretty impressive.
I think this is more of a feel good list than anything else. When you look at this list, Nick Mullens threw 13 TDs and 10 INTs and Bridgewater threw 14 TDs and 12 INTs but are on the list. With that note. I'm not sure of the significance of the list.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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I think this is more of a feel good list than anything else. When you look at this list, Nick Mullens threw 13 TDs and 10 INTs and Bridgewater threw 14 TDs and 12 INTs but are on the list. With that note. I'm not sure of the significance of the list.
List just says Mills is a viable prospect. He could go up. He could go down. But he's earned a one year investment... 2022
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I think this is more of a feel good list than anything else. When you look at this list, Nick Mullens threw 13 TDs and 10 INTs and Bridgewater threw 14 TDs and 12 INTs but are on the list. With that note. I'm not sure of the significance of the list.
Agreed,

But, what impresses me more than anything is that you can see Mills improving with the more experience he gets.
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
Well, no matter what Davis becomes I don't see them beating the Bills or Chiefs. Those teams have studs at QB that shredded defenses that were playing at a high level. Neither QB lost in that game. Depressing for the Texans. We are a grand canyon away from beating those teams when it counts
 

OptimisticTexan

2022 Rebuilding Block 2 / Go Texans
Well, no matter what Davis becomes I don't see them beating the Bills or Chiefs. Those teams have studs at QB that shredded defenses that were playing at a high level. Neither QB lost in that game. Depressing for the Texans. We are a grand canyon away from beating those teams when it counts
On the flip side….the Texans could look completely different come 2024 and/or 2025. Bills & Chiefs could be completely different teams come 2024 & 2025 b/c of the cap. If anything, they could be a couple of years older while the Texans are a few years younger.

Who knows? I’ll know more after watching Caserio navigate his second season.
 
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steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Well, no matter what Davis becomes I don't see them beating the Bills or Chiefs. Those teams have studs at QB that shredded defenses that were playing at a high level. Neither QB lost in that game. Depressing for the Texans. We are a grand canyon away from beating those teams when it counts
Not right now, but in 2-3 years alot of things can happen. Injuries/fa losses/ regression of play etc....
 

Jack Burton

Rookie
Well, no matter what Davis becomes I don't see them beating the Bills or Chiefs. Those teams have studs at QB that shredded defenses that were playing at a high level. Neither QB lost in that game. Depressing for the Texans. We are a grand canyon away from beating those teams when it counts
Joe Burrow did not look very good his rookie year.
he’s light years better this year.
Mills gets another year to see if he can do the same. If not, it’s no biggie. HOU will have amassed picks and can go get their guy.
 

OptimisticTexan

2022 Rebuilding Block 2 / Go Texans
Joe Burrow did not look very good his rookie year.
he’s light years better this year.
Mills gets another year to see if he can do the same. If not, it’s no biggie. HOU will have amassed picks and can go get their guy.
Let’s see the Texans amass teams like the Bills and Bengals did for their young QB’s before expecting a 9-8 or 10-7 turnaround by Mills.
 

Dejaview

All Pro
I go by how the board reacts to such posts.

It was a story someone found & shared. No one suggested a parade or put Davis Mills in a gold jacket. There have been a few responses of the, "good for him" variety.

I don't think anyone is overplaying this "news"
Yeah I don’t get it. Nobody is overplaying it, only pointing out something positive and tangible. wonder how magnanimous his detractors would be if he showed no promise? I’ve always noticed negative people usually don’t hold higher principles.
 


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