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Organized fan protest underway

Texans_Chick said:
This is why you are awesome.

If people are that upset, just don't go.

Coaching changes or no, if you wear bags or boo or do other nonsense, you are sending a terrible message to the good players that are on your team. If you are a good player, do you want to be associated with bag headed fans? Good players can choose to go anywhere.

I've always thought that teams need their fans more when times are tough. McNair is going to do what he is going to do. In the meantime, I am going to support the players who will likely remain no matter what changes are made.
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So according to you it's only awsome if you're cheering on the team no matter what is displayed no matter how much money you're spending to watch this team you're rooting for? What world of sunshine and lolipopps do you live in? That's not realistic.

Many of these fans have been here for ages and have been here far before the Texans ever arrived into town. They've got a lot of passion for this city and how their team represents it competitively. You can sit around and applaud Mcnair all that you want no matter what he does or doesn't do just because he owns a football team, but I'll boo them on poor efforts and a bad display of being unprepared in a game. I'll voice my frustration around this city until some sort of major change at HC is made, because I'm a football fan and a Houston fan that wants to see competency and has high standards of what I'd like to see out of my team. Those standards have never been met under this regime and if people aren't taking action right now or never did in the past than every owner would do absolutely nothing for their teams because they wouldn't have to. Like I said, it's a very unrealistic way to view things if you think that we've got a poor coach which isn't really debatable at this point in time now.
 
All I can say is that I have been and always will be a Houston die hard for every sport and accomplishment sports or otherwise out of HTown. Anyone who knows me or pays attention to my posts knows this. Hell, I refused to even watch football on a consistent basis between the Oilers and Texans. So yes, if I may say so, I am a hardcore and loyal fan not to even mention alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll my gear, collectibles, etc...

That said I am also damn near broke. So no, I do not have season tickets and when I get to go I stay all damn day and soak it up.

I AM pissed off enough though that I genuinely feel that if I COULD afford season tickets I would renew them, but I would send in the remainder of this year's tickets back to the box office as protest.

Why? Not because of Kubiak or the players or the never ending litany of shitscapade endings to games, but because of McNair.

You don't effing come out and say that the team is "on the right track" during this latest circumference around the toilet. What kind of patsy ***** listens to the other owners tell him how much they love his team and he not realize the reason WHY they love his team is because they know it is like a bye week for THEIR team and almost a guaranteed W.

Too bad Marvin Zindler is gone. Someone needs to find out just how the eff he became a billionaire with teddy bear snuggle wuggle approaches to this kind of ****?!?!?!?!
 
Carr Bombed said:
When you're still buying 11 beers (instead of 12), I don't think that's really going to show them Bill.
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Alright, I will also cut-out my obligatory "nasty dog"... (Chili cheese, all the way dog), which is merely used to handle my drunken munchies at halftime!!! How's that? :D
 
Shaft75 said:
Sounds logical, but it's application can be a little inappropriate. I don't want to chastise one of the best wr's ever, especially one that continues to ride things out with us. I'm just not that negative of a person.
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I gotta believe players like AJ and Arian have enough snap to realize that the fan's frusration isn't aimed at them but rather Kubiak & Bush. Hell, they know what's going on.
 
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HTown2ATX said:
You don't effing come out and say that the team is "on the right track" during this latest circumference around the toilet. What kind of patsy ***** listens to the other owners tell him how much they love his team and he not realize the reason WHY they love his team is because they know it is like a bye week for THEIR team and almost a guaranteed W.
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Really? Guaranteed a W? Playing us is like a bye week?

That's pretty harsh and narrow minded. Now if you say they know we'll find a way to lose, then that's fair, but the Texans are hardly a bye week of a team.

We're talking about a team that can't make it to the playoffs, not a terrible 1 to 2 win team. I think the whole debate about a protest stems from the fact Uncle Bob is okay with mediocrity.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Alright, I will also cut-out my obligatory "nasty dog"... (Chili cheese, all the way dog), which is merely used to handle my drunken munchies at halftime!!! How's that? :D
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:lol: "I'm gonna march right up to Mr.McNair and hand deliver my tickets!":lol: Like you would even be able to get 100 ft from him to deliver them. you don't think he hasn't stepped up the security around his box for those "disgruntle fans" that want to send a message?

The whole idea is ridonkulous.....:kubepalm::wadepalm::mariopalm:
 
BullNation4Life said:
:lol: "I'm gonna march right up to Mr.McNair and hand deliver my tickets!":lol: Like you would even be able to get 100 ft from him to deliver them. you don't think he hasn't stepped up the security around his box for those "disgruntle fans" that want to send a message?

The whole idea is ridonkulous.....:kubepalm::wadepalm::mariopalm:
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You do know that the guy said he never expected to see McNair right?
 
Carr Bombed said:
You do know that the guy said he never expected to see McNair right?
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Nope, didn't care to even read that far. The whole idea is asinine...

Like I've said before, you want to make a statement, it needs to be one that is news worthy, not TexansTalk message board worthy...

the billboard idea is the way to go.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Alright, I will also cut-out my obligatory "nasty dog"... (Chili cheese, all the way dog), which is merely used to handle my drunken munchies at halftime!!! How's that? :D
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So when we see HazMat Teams and the Stretcher Bearers start coming down into the stands, it will be because of you?
 
Texan4Ever said:
Not to derail this thread (didn't want to start a new thread about this) but anyways, I know some NFL teams allow season-ticket holders a chance to be present at meetings with HC and or management and ask them questions about the franchise as the Lions did after there 0-16 season.

Do the Texans allow this or hold a season-ticket holder meeting with the HC or GM and allow them to express there concerns? I think this is a good way for the team to allow fans to voice there opinions and make them feel that what they have to say actually counts.
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David Bailiff does that over at Rice. Things often get very "interesting" in these meetings.

If Kubiak held these meetings he would be wearing Kevlar and be sitting behind a 1 inch polycarbonate screen.
 
After the Denver game and seeing the press conference. I personally feel he knows the writing is on the wall.

Waste of time now.
 
Just what everyone wants...don't renew your season tickets so that some broker can get them and sell them overpriced to visiting fans. Genius...that will really make a dent in Bob's wallet.
 
Whether one agrees with this approach or not, one thing has become quite obvious. This city is desparate for a winner. Now, it will have gone "national."


[ESPN] Updated: December 28, 2010, 9:24 AM ET

Fans plan rally to sack Gary

A pair of Houston Texans fans who believe coach Gary Kubiak should be fired are organizing a rally for Sunday to make their point, the Houston Chronicle reported.

Fans Brad White and Scott Carter are hoping the demonstration before Sunday's season finale against the Jacksonville Jaguars will help convince team owner Bob McNair to change coaches, according to the report.

"I want to stress that I don't want people to come out to bash Kubiak," White told the Chronicle. "We don't want vulgar signs out there. We're not there to bash him. We're there to say that we want a change."

The Texans, who this season were thought to have their best chance of finally reaching the playoffs, instead have struggled to a 5-10 record.

"Five years has been enough," White said of Kubiak's coaching tenure in Houston, according to the report. "We've regressed this year. Minus a couple players, we believe the players aren't responding to [the coaching staff] anymore."

Kubiak's contract runs through the 2012 season, and McNair offered a vote of confidence for his coach two weeks ago -- after the team rallied from 21 points down to tie, but eventually lose, a Monday night game to Baltimore.

With Sunday's loss to Denver, Kubiak's record slipped to 36-43 through five seasons.

The Texans' defense ranks 29th overall and last against the pass, allowing 277 yards per game. Houston also has allowed 32 touchdown passes and 17 pass plays covering at least 40 yards, both league highs, and most of those defensive breakdowns have occurred in the fourth quarter.

The Texans have led or been tied in the fourth quarter of seven of their past eight games, and lost all but one of those.

Kubiak learned about the rally during his weekly news conference Monday, according to the report.

"It's part of my job, and I understand that," he said, according to the report. "I came here to win games and do a job to win games. That's what Bob [McNair] pays me to do. It's not a lack of effort and work, and it won't be this week, neither. So, I'm OK with all that."


Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Is there a predictive message that is hidden in this statement of Kubiak's??

"It's part of my job, and I understand that," he said, according to the report. "I came here to win games and do a job to win games. That's what Bob [McNair] pays me to do. It's not a lack of effort and work, and it won't be this week, neither. So, I'm OK with all that."
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After thinking about it for a week (And watching the Texans lose again), I find that the idea of a ticket turn-in (or whatever) for the Jacksonville game is silly. I don't think it's going to effect the decision of whether Kubiak should be retained (My best guess is that decision has already been made) and I do think it'll make our stadium look awfully silly on national tv if there are a bunch of people with signs outside of Reliant like they are some sort of pissed off hot dog vendors.

I just feel that all this stuff should be happening next year at the games if we are still rocking the same staff and front office in 2011. This year is already toast and we aren't getting next year's HC in place before the season is over. There's nobody on the staff currently that I could even fathom being a HC for an NFL team, so I wouldn't even care who the interim coach would be.

I still have no idea why we extended Kubiak in the offseason.
 
b0ng said:
After thinking about it for a week (And watching the Texans lose again), I find that the idea of a ticket turn-in (or whatever) for the Jacksonville game is silly. I don't think it's going to effect the decision of whether Kubiak should be retained (My best guess is that decision has already been made) and I do think it'll make our stadium look awfully silly on national tv if there are a bunch of people with signs outside of Reliant like they are some sort of pissed off hot dog vendors.

I just feel that all this stuff should be happening next year at the games if we are still rocking the same staff and front office in 2011. This year is already toast and we aren't getting next year's HC in place before the season is over. There's nobody on the staff currently that I could even fathom being a HC for an NFL team, so I wouldn't even care who the interim coach would be.

I still have no idea why we extended Kubiak in the offseason.
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Yes, people are taking this WAAAYYYYY too serious. Houston Texan football isn't something that you can't live without & for things like that, & If its getting folks this riled up, do yourself a favor & simply don't participate. The effect is 2-fold. You'll be much more stable & there will be changes made.......eventually.
 
DX-TEX said:
Could this backfire? Make any HC candidates not want to come here?
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New York , Philadelphia, Pittsburg, among others don't seem to have too much difficulty filling their HC positions.

I wouldn't want a coach who gets his feelings hurt by the media or their fans.

EARN IT.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Is there a predictive message that is hidden in this statement of Kubiak's??
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Judging from what was raised/bolded/colored in his post, I think he was pointing out that Kubes employed the double negative, which doesn't SPEAK well to his chances of staying. Just saying. Or not.

I'm not saying there's no way he's not going to be fired. :kitten:

That's my interpretation/prediction. :)
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
I don't know - part of me wants to lay down, like the Colts did for the Jets last year.
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Then I will boo part of you!

Lol.

If I know you like I think I do.... you will be cheering on our Texans once you get into it. Of course... provided we have a game like we did against the Patriots last season or the Seahawks destruction.

The picture of you with your arms crossed in the Chronicle still is embedded in my mind. The ultimate disappointed fan.

See you both on Sunday!!!
 
I know, as sure as I know the day is long, that the best thing for next year's Texans team is that they lose this game to Jacksonville, so between now and Sunday at 3:15 p.m., I will be hoping and angling for the Texans to lose. But, at 3:15 p.m. on Sunday, I will again become hypnotized (by Kubiak's clock mismanagement no doubt) and I will resume full-scale, unconditional rooting for the Texans to kick the Jags tails into oblivion and win, win win!!

If they lose, I will be furious, until Monday morning.
 
I assume one of those 2 guys in the article CnD posted were one of the guys who created firegarykubiak.com?

Well if so, no more rally.

Due to unrelenting hate mail and threats, I have decided that I am taking the site down. It was initially created as a fun place for people to gather who had the same thought process as I did. I really never intended for this to get as big as it did, and have no desire in taking on the world. Thank you to all of the supporters, and others that voiced their opinions. Time will tell if we get a new coach.

I also wanted to point out that the Shirts, Petition, and Rally were not my ideas, they were requests that came to me from Texans fans. I also want to point out that this was never designed to make money, to date I have barely made enough to pay for the site.

This site was created for me to have fun, and instead has ruined the game of football for me. I will not be attending the rally so to those of you that wanted to meet me to "punch me in the face", there is no need for you to go. If the rally continues, it will not be because I continued to promote it, it will be because OTHER fans think that it is a good idea, and want a way to voice their opiions, maybe you could punch some of them in my place.

Furthermore I would like to point out that I have NEVER attacked Gary Kubiak as a person and I never would. I think he is a fine person, and a great offensive mind. I simply wanted better for the team, for the city, and for the fans. I see now that in voicing that opinion it only breeds hate and discontent, something that I don’t want to surround myself with.

Thanks again to everyone who was on board, and thanks to the others that have managed to ruin football for yet another Houston fan.

The contact email account will also be disabled, so there is no need to continue to try and send me nasty-grams.

I turely hope that the Texans do well next year, with or without Kubiak.
 
Mr teX said:
Yes, people are taking this WAAAYYYYY too serious. Houston Texan football isn't something that you can't live without & for things like that, & If its getting folks this riled up, do yourself a favor & simply don't participate. The effect is 2-fold. You'll be much more stable & there will be changes made.......eventually.
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We've had our differences of opinions regarding Kubiak, but in the end we agree on the fundamental aspects of being a fan. I agree completely with your above post. Perspective is always in order to keep this entertainment medium from defining you as a person and influencing your mental and emotional state of mind.

I always think of voicing my opinion as a fan to be in the "football bubble", as I call it. Get riled up and chat/debate within that bubble, but as soon as you step out of it, let it go and live life.

Being a Texans fanatic neither defines me nor does it impact my well-being. I learned that hard lesson after 35-3, and it's one that I will never let myself forget. There are many important things in life, and watching football should probably not be high on that list at the end of the day. JMO.
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
I assume one of those 2 guys in the article CnD posted were one of the guys who created firegarykubiak.com?

Well if so, no more rally.

Due to unrelenting hate mail and threats, I have decided that I am taking the site down. It was initially created as a fun place for people to gather who had the same thought process as I did. I really never intended for this to get as big as it did, and have no desire in taking on the world. Thank you to all of the supporters, and others that voiced their opinions. Time will tell if we get a new coach.

I also wanted to point out that the Shirts, Petition, and Rally were not my ideas, they were requests that came to me from Texans fans. I also want to point out that this was never designed to make money, to date I have barely made enough to pay for the site.

This site was created for me to have fun, and instead has ruined the game of football for me. I will not be attending the rally so to those of you that wanted to meet me to "punch me in the face", there is no need for you to go. If the rally continues, it will not be because I continued to promote it, it will be because OTHER fans think that it is a good idea, and want a way to voice their opiions, maybe you could punch some of them in my place.

Furthermore I would like to point out that I have NEVER attacked Gary Kubiak as a person and I never would. I think he is a fine person, and a great offensive mind. I simply wanted better for the team, for the city, and for the fans. I see now that in voicing that opinion it only breeds hate and discontent, something that I don’t want to surround myself with.

Thanks again to everyone who was on board, and thanks to the others that have managed to ruin football for yet another Houston fan.

The contact email account will also be disabled, so there is no need to continue to try and send me nasty-grams.

I turely hope that the Texans do well next year, with or without Kubiak.
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Lol. Sounds like Bob's got to be feeling a little better about keeping Kubiak.

The threats were unnecessary though. Boo to the threateners!
 
Double Barrel said:
We've had our differences of opinions regarding Kubiak, but in the end we agree on the fundamental aspects of being a fan. I agree completely with your above post. Perspective is always in order to keep this entertainment medium from defining you as a person and influencing your mental and emotional state of mind.
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Except for the punch to the gut feeling when you take a hard loss (...back when we had playoff hopes) - I 100% agree.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
Except for the punch to the gut feeling when you take a hard loss (...back when we had playoff hopes) - I 100% agree.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna' lie. There are times when those losses just pissed me off. But, I quickly check the emotions and refuse to allow them to infect the rest of my day. I've got too much to be positive about than let this product steal my joy in life. :)

Now, however, it's apathy that I'm fighting within myself. I can't shake the feeling that I just don't care anymore...at least at this point. I'm still a fan and will watch in 2011, but honestly, if they decide to continue on our current course, I doubt that I'll pay much attention to the franchise in the off-season. Einstein's definition of insanity keeps running through my mind.

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