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O'Brien & His Coaching Staffs

TheRealJoker said:
So no Brian Ferentz to OL coach?
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paycheck71 said:
Per coachingsearch.com - Brian Ferentz has not accepted the OL job with the Texans at this point & will remain on staff at Iowa
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Curious little piece of drama, there... I wonder if somebody pulled out their wallet...?

George Godsey -- OC(?)
??? -- OL
Stan Hixon -- WRs
Charles London -- RBs

Mike Vrabel -- LBs
Anthony Midget -- Safties(?)
John Butler -- CBs(?)

Bill Kollar -- DL

Craig Fitzgerald -- Strength & Conditioning
Jim Bernhardt -- QC

Oh, shoot...
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I can't even post without having to edit as soon as I hit reply...

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Buzz around the league is that Eric Mangini's final destination may very well end up being with Bill O'Brien in Houston
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Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 1h

Buzz around the league is that Eric Mangini's final destination may very well end up being with Bill O'Brien in Houston
 
silvrhand said:
FCKCKK YAH.. omg I will soil myself..

Mike Munchak
Bruce Matthews
Romeo Cronel...

BRING IT ON )(*@$A)@(


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Guys an NFL HC one week and potentially a lowly positions coach the next ?
What are we missing here ? And another thing, I thought O'Brien already hired his OL coach, the son of the Iowa U. HC ?
 
srrono said:
Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 1h

Buzz around the league is that Eric Mangini's final destination may very well end up being with Bill O'Brien in Houston
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Anybody else getting the feeling that this organization is taking a if you can't beat them join them mentality when it comes to the Patriots?

So when do we trade for Tom Brady?
 
O'Brien snagging 3 former head coaches in Munch, Crennel and Mangini sounds like a good idea. The players will be surrounded by coaches that command respect.
 
Allstar said:
O'Brien snagging 3 former head coaches in Munch, Crennel and Mangini sounds like a good idea. The players will be surrounded by coaches that command respect.
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Probably an either/or with Crennel or Mangini. I doubt he'll have two DCs.

Although, Mangini is an odd one. He was the DC of the Patriots for 1 year. But he's also served as an offensive assistant and he's with the Niners right now on the offensive side.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Probably an either/or with Crennel or Mangini. I doubt he'll have two DCs.

Although, Mangini is an odd one. He was the DC of the Patriots for 1 year. But he's also served as an offensive assistant and he's with the Niners right now on the offensive side.
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LZ tweeted he thinks Mangini would coach on offense.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Probably an either/or with Crennel or Mangini. I doubt he'll have two DCs.

Although, Mangini is an odd one. He was the DC of the Patriots for 1 year. But he's also served as an offensive assistant and he's with the Niners right now on the offensive side.
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Allstar said:
LZ tweeted he thinks Mangini would coach on offense.
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O'Brien will probably be calling the plays anyway... Mangini, if hired as the OC, would then have a similar role to Dennison.
 
TEXANRED said:
Anybody else getting the feeling that this organization is taking a if you can't beat them join them mentality when it comes to the Patriots?

So when do we trade for Tom Brady?
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I hope it works better than I'm starting to believe it will, because you can't exactly replicate Belichick and Brady.

We'll see.
 
Mangini as OC? WTF?

Sounds like BOB is surrounding himself with former head coaches
for a reason -- like maybe he feels the need for a lot of hand-holding.

Not happy with that thought..

Kind of fitting though, because Bortles reminds me of Pennington,
and I have a hunch the Texans will screw up the #1 pick and
take him over the other QB's, Clowney, or Matthews
 
That would be a huge step down from NFL head coach to offensive line coach. Doubt he couldn't do better but I'd love to have him in that capacity.
 
Why would Munchack want this job ? And what about the kid from Iowa who
reportedly was going to be the new Oline coach ?
 
Didn't he go from "office of line" ;) coach to HC?

Seriously though, he was never an OC right? I don't think he has ever really excelled at anything above coaching the offensive line.

Why would someone hire him for anything else?
 
I don;t understand why some folks are so hung up on what the previous staff did. Zone blocking, 3-4, zone, etc...it's a new era. If Munchack gets the OL to sing the D to sleep, who gives a ****? It'll be a step up from last year when the OL tried to tire the D to sleep by letting them run wild.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Didn't he go from "office of line" ;) coach to HC?

Seriously though, he was never an OC right? I don't think he has ever really excelled at anything above coaching the offensive line.

Why would someone hire him for anything else?
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Line coach to NFL Head Coach ? Excellent !
3 years as an NFL Head Coach directly to Line coach ? Not Good !
On a related story, former Houston Texans HC Gary Kubiak was rumored by
John McClain to be interviewing with current Texans HC Bill O'Brien for the QB coaching position.
 
PapaL said:
I don;t understand why some folks are so hung up on what the previous staff did. Zone blocking, 3-4, zone, etc...it's a new era. If Munchack gets the OL to sing the D to sleep, who gives a ****? It'll be a step up from last year when the OL tried to tire the D to sleep by letting them run wild.
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Hey! A couple of those defenses were pretty darned tuckered out by the end of the game. If those things had gone to overtime we'd have had them exhausted and right where we wanted them!

I'd be perfectly content with Munch and Matthews handling the OL coaching here. I doubt they would have any trouble understanding or coaching zone blocking schemes.
 
speedfreek said:
Mangini as OC? WTF?

Sounds like BOB is surrounding himself with former head coaches
for a reason -- like maybe he feels the need for a lot of hand-holding.

Not happy with that thought..

Kind of fitting though, because Bortles reminds me of Pennington,
and I have a hunch the Texans will screw up the #1 pick and
take him over the other QB's, Clowney, or Matthews
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Or IDK, maybe Bill O'brien wants a experienced coaching staff and guys he's comfortable with and he's won with in the past.

Btw.. Bortles is nothing like pennington. They couldn't be more complete opposites. Pennington had a noodle arm, but was accurate. Bortles has a elite arm, but needs to work on accuracy.
 
PapaL said:
I don;t understand why some folks are so hung up on what the previous staff did. Zone blocking, 3-4, zone, etc...it's a new era. If Munchack gets the OL to sing the D to sleep, who gives a ****? It'll be a step up from last year when the OL tried to tire the D to sleep by letting them run wild.
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Who's hungup? I think people are just curious as t what this means. I know I am.
 
IDEXAN said:
Line coach to NFL Head Coach ? Excellent !
3 years as an NFL Head Coach directly to Line coach ? Not Good !
On a related story, former Houston Texans HC Gary Kubiak was rumored by
John McClain to be interviewing with current Texans HC Bill O'Brien for the QB coaching position.
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That would be an interesting turn of events.
 
McClain:

O’Brien wants to have some assistants with NFL experience. Vrabel played 14 years in the NFL, including eight with the Patriots.

If he gets Munchak, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, for his offensive line and Romeo Crennel as his defensive coordinator, O’Brien will have two former NFL head coaches on his staff.

If O’Brien hires Munchak, he might also get Bruce

Matthews, another former Oilers offensive lineman in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, as his assistant offensive line coach.

Munchak had a 12-year playing career with the Oilers. He was a first-round pick in 1982 and played through the 1993 season before remaining in the organization as an assistant coach and head coach.

Munchak spent 32 years with the Oilers/Tennessee Titans organization. He would replace John Benton as the Texans’ offensive line coach.

During his 17 years as an assistant with the Oilers/Titans, Munchak was considered one of the NFL’s best offensive line coaches.

In his career as a left guard, Munchak was one of the most popular and respected players in Houston’s pro football history.

Munchak helped the Oilers make the playoffs from 1987-93 during what was called the run-and-shoot era. When he retired, he became an assistant offensive line coach and then was promoted to offensive line coach before being elevated to head coach by late Titans owner Bud Adams.

Meanwhile, Vrabel is leaving the Buckeyes after coaching linebackers and the defensive line for three years. When Vrabel won his Super Bowl rings, Crennel was his defensive coordinator.

O’Brien is hoping to hire Crennel, who won five Super Bowl rings working as an assistant coach for Bill Parcells with the New York Giants and Bill Belichick with New England.

Crennel, 66, was the head coach at Cleveland and Kansas City. He was fired by the Chiefs after the 2012 season with two years left on his contract. He didn’t coach in 2013.

Crennel had left the Patriots before Belichick gave O’Brien his first NFL job.

The Texans announced this week that Bill Kollar, assistant head coach/defensive line, has been retained by O’Brien. If O’Brien can get Munchak to go with Kollar, the offensive and defensive lines will be in veteran hands.

Special-teams coordinator Bob Ligashesky is still under contract, but his status hasn’t been determined.

Although nothing is official, O’Brien is bringing six assistants with him from Penn State: Charles London (running backs), Stan Hixon (receivers), John Butler (defensive backs), Anthony Midget (assistant defensive backs), Jim Bernhardt (special assistant to head coach) and Pat Fitzgerald (strength and conditioning).
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speedfreek said:
Sounds like BOB is surrounding himself with former head coaches
for a reason -- like maybe he feels the need for a lot of hand-holding.

Not happy with that thought.
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Former HCs tend to make good coaches. Problem is Munch and Mangenius will use it as stepping stone for HC gigs. Crennel not so much. I do have concern about too many chiefs, not enough indians.

I'm wondering if Mr. McNair opened his checkbook to out-pay for coaches/coordinators? And that explains some of what's beginning to look like confusion in coaching hires.
 
speedfreek said:
Mangini as OC? WTF?

Sounds like BOB is surrounding himself with former head coaches
for a reason -- like maybe he feels the need for a lot of hand-holding.

Not happy with that thought..

Kind of fitting though, because Bortles reminds me of Pennington,
and I have a hunch the Texans will screw up the #1 pick and
take him over the other QB's, Clowney, or Matthews
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Lol.

Hire experienced coaches because he needs hand holding?

That's funny sh!t right there!
 
Everyone cried that we needed changes and now we get changes and it's all wrong before a snap is even played.

One thing about the new changes, if they are going to f@ck it up, they are doing it at full speed ahead!


Batten down the hatches boys! Gonna be a helluva ride!
 
speedfreek said:
Kind of fitting though, because Bortles reminds me of Pennington, and I have a hunch the Texans will screw up the #1 pick and
take him over the other QB's, Clowney, or Matthews
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Horrible comparison. Pennington was a very intelligent QB with half the arm of Schaub. That isn't close to Bortles.
 
Playoffs said:
Former HCs tend to make good coaches. Problem is Munch and Mangenius will use it as stepping stone for HC gigs. Crennel not so much. I do have concern about too many chiefs, not enough indians.

I'm wondering if Mr. McNair opened his checkbook to out-pay for coaches/coordinators? And that explains some of what's beginning to look like confusion in coaching hires.
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I see no confusion here. What do you think looks confusing about these possible moves? Just curious. What am I missing?

It looks to me like they're going after higher profile coaches than in the past but all of them make sense to me.
 
infantrycak said:
Horrible comparison. Pennington was a very intelligent QB with half the arm of Schaub. That isn't close to Bortles.
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But at last Schaub's arm stayed in socket.. Felt bad for Penngington I don't think he could take a snap without his shoulder getting dislocated.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Mike Vrabel was the LB coach at Ohio State for the past couple years. He was also a recruiter for them, and was one of the coaches Urban Meyer kept on staff when he took over the team. He had a good career, won 3 rings with the Pats, and even played a little TE in goal line sets for the Patriots. I hope he does well, but this will be his first coaching job in the NFL.
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And the Chiefs too IIRC. :mad:
 
lol at the idea that O'Brien needs coaches to hold his hands. That's just absurd and most likely side effects from drinking too much hatorade.

A basic understanding of NFL history reveals the cycles that coaches go through as they get hired and fired. The only head coaches that never seem to pop back up as assistants are the ones with Super Bowl championship rings.

But, it is quite common (and always has been) for head coaches to get fired and go back to positions that they excelled at before getting a head coaching gig. Even head coaches who have lost Super Bowls get recycled as assistants. Just look at Ken Whisenhunt, who led the Cardinals to a Super Bowl and is now OC for the Chargers.

Hervoyel said:
I see no confusion here. What do you think looks confusing about these possible moves? Just curious. What am I missing?

It looks to me like they're going after higher profile coaches than in the past but all of them make sense to me.
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I agree. I think McNair has told O'Brien to hire the best coaches at every position, regardless of money. I don't think O'Brien is going about this haphazardly, but rather putting talented minds in position at all facets of the team so everyone is getting high caliber coaching.

O'Brien strikes me as a guy that is not threatened by the coaches around him. You see this in the great coaches, too. They surround themselves with the best staff they can get without concerning themselves about potential future scenarios.

And so much for "bottom line Bob" after this off-season. Hopefully his critics will find something based in reality to criticize in the future.
 
Pollardized said:
It gets old quick, doesn't it?
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Man, I swear I went from 2 people on it from the beginning of the season and now it's at 6 with this recent addition. This dude seriously thinks every move we're making sucks and is rocking a freaking Wade Phillips av who fielded the worst defense at takeaways in NFL history.
 
speedfreek said:
Mangini as OC? WTF?

Sounds like BOB is surrounding himself with former head coaches
for a reason -- like maybe he feels the need for a lot of hand-holding.

Not happy with that thought..
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Lance Zierline said that, not Bob O'Brien.
 
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