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Nick Caserio - New GM

Mr teX

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Just curious, why?

I don't know if I believe this or not. But it is much more specific than the Watson rumors. It specifically says they were in talks about a deal. Khan could just deny it.

He was one of my favorites, I am disappointed if this is true.
perhaps it’s true, but it flies in the face of the OTHER rumor about no one wanting the job unless Easterby was gone. Clearly if they were supposedly in contract negotiations with Khan, he was prepared to take the job.......with Easterby still on board. So Easterby would have no reason to “fear” for his job. So....which is it, either the job is too toxic for anyone to want b/c of Easterby or candidates aren’t as concerned about him as apparently the local and national media are. I mean think about it, we just hired 1 of the best GM candidates available and the storyline is...........Jack Easterby.

The narrative is all over the place & the media is fluffing the **** out of it. I expect that when DW4 comes back from vacation, and he and Caserio talk, this will all blow over.
 
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Just curious, why?

I don't know if I believe this or not. But it is much more specific than the Watson rumors. It specifically says they were in talks about a deal. Khan could just deny it.

He was one of my favorites, I am disappointed if this is true.
Because Cal first and foremost is a business man and the Texans are ran like a corporation. Most of these moves that people don’t understand and complain about make complete sense if you view them from the idea of the Texans being a corporation first and a football team second.

With that in mind you don’t hire someone that will basically be the president of your company unless you are 100% sure either he is the perfect fit or you can’t get the guys ahead of him. The Texans would not have started to process unless they were sure and they certainly would not have got into contract negotiations. There are even potential legal issues if you back out on a candidate like that baring an issue found in there back ground check.

Caserio didn’t just out of the blue become available, everyone knew when he put his “I can leave” clause in his contract he was looking to be a GM somewhere and given the history Texans would be the likely source. Likewise Texans didn’t start trying to hire him only after Easterby got there, he’ll it wasn’t even Cal that started it it was his old man.

All signs point to TKs theory that everything has been done to lure Caserio here. When we started going after him during the tampering charges there were a lot of reports from the NE area that Texans might be the team that could actually lure Caserio away because of his personal friendship with OB and Easterby.

I agree with TK that Texans hired Easterby to entice Caserio and I’ll even go a step further and say that’s why they kept OB so long. Hell you can even say they made OB the GM so they wouldn’t have to fire someone and could just have a “Bill is stepping down as temporary GM to focus on coaching but turning it over to his good friend and long time peer Nick Caserio.” moment.
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
Sounds like @steelbtexan & @SnakeEyes were right. Watson wanted minority GM & HC.
I don’t know how you draw that conclusion from just “the team’s insensitivity toward social injustice.”

Also - the Texans, or OB for that matter, were one of the early teams to acknowledge the social injustice after the George Floyd death. Could they do more? Well let’s define what more is. You don’t solve social injustice by hiring a black assistant HC and make him your HC to solve such a thing. IMHO there are a lot better options. So until Watson speaks about what more is, we don’t know and can only ASS-U-ME.

I am sure there are a lot of putting in words in mouth and reading into something that isn’t there.

Remember - Mahomes talked up Bieniemy to Watson. He also was regarded by the national media to be a hot HC candidate.

Watson didn’t go searching on his own to find a black HC candidate and create a stand alone recommendation.
 

michaelm

vox nihili
So the narrative is that Cal was going to hire a different GM, but Easterby has Cal under a spell like some kind of hypnotist, and changed Cal's mind at the last minute???

Cal has had his eyes on Caserio for a long time so that narrative makes no sense.

Plus, who cares if Cal didn't go with Korn Ferry's recommendation? Caserio is a clearly better candidate than anyone on Korn Ferry's list.
Much ado about nothing
 

steelbtexan

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perhaps it’s true, but it flies in the face of the OTHER rumor about no one wanting the job unless Easterby was gone. Clearly if they were supposedly in contract negotiations with Khan, he was prepared to take the job.......with Easterby still on board. So Easterby would have no reason to “fear” for his job. So....which is it, either the job is too toxic for anyone to want b/c of Easterby or candidates aren’t as concerned about him as apparently the local and national media are. I mean think about it, we just hired 1 of the best GM candidates available and the storyline is...........Jack Easterby.

The narrative is all over the place & the media is fluffing the **** out of it. I expect that when DW4 comes back from vacation, and he and Caserio talk, this will all blow over.
Yep,

He's going to have a hard time explaining this away.
 

OptimisticTexan

2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Brady met with BB 1 on 1 weekly during the season. There’s footage of these meetings from Belichick’s 2 part football life...and other shows involving Brady. Now I’m Just guessing, but I’m sure BB talked with Brady & solicited his input about personnel moves here & there. Think about all the guys that have come thru NE’s doors over the years.

chad johnson
Randy moss
Antonio Brown

highly doubt BB didn’t at least check with TB12 before he brought those guys in.....probably didn’t when he let them go, but still.
I don’t think it was in TB’s 4th or 5th season.....probably a little later and a few more rings before Bill was seeking TB’s input.
 

ArlingtonTexan

Moderator
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Has anyone seen Korn Ferry's list?
It is the guys that were interviewed or scheduled to be interviewed before Casero was hired.

Houston Texans
  • Matt Bazirgan, Texans player personnel director: Interviewed
  • Malik Boyd, Bills pro scouting director: Interviewed
  • Nick Caserio, Patriots VP of player personnel: Hired
  • Scott Cohen, Ravens football research director: Interview requested
  • Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration: Interviewed
  • Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel: Interviewed
  • Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst/former Eagles exec: Interviewed


Also. some of the reports are acting like the organization cares about $600,000 over getting the guy they actually want. In NFL terms, that amount is the current minimum salary...other words player 53 on the roster.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Except the Bieniemy thing... Bieniemy’s season is far from over. Can’t really blame a team for not hiring a guy who isn’t available.
My whole thing about Bienemy is why is he even taking interviews if he knows that he is unlikely to be hired b/c he’s probably not gonna be available?

All these teams have interviewed him and if he’s just this great candidate, why are none of these teams seemingly willing to wait for him?
 

SnakeEyes

Rookie
I'm not ready to agree with this take. @steelbtexan and @SnakeEyes have been pushing some of the same narratives for weeks and they might even be the same person. They probably are enjoying this mess more than any posters on this forum

Don't get me wrong. I find the idea that a player would demand a minority for HC and GM as simply too unreasonable and ridiculous to even consider. That's why I cannot take their speculation seriously. If true, Cal should have immediately set expectations and not have Watson thinking his input would be valued.

I think when this all shakes out. It will be more about Easterby vs Watson than minority GM/HC hiring or even Cal vs Watson. If I had to speculate. I think when Watson left for vacation, he thought a new GM would be selected from the list and Easterby's role would be reduce or he would be out. Then he gets news via social media that not only was the list ignored but, it's one of Easterby's closest friends.

Again, pure speculation. I'm not stating it as fact. But that is more likely than a player wanting a minority GM and HC. NOW. If it's true about minority HC and GM then I will be first in line to apologize to @steelbtexan / @SnakeEyes and say they were right. But until then, they are not getting squat from me. LOL.
This guy must have been great at twister growing up. Because I have posted an option based on at the moment some very good facts. Then, I was man enough to post I was wrong about it.

Meanwhile, @Earl34 can't accept the fact Watson was talking about our new GM in his tweet. Or say he was wrong about non stop posts of that wasn't what he was talking about. Instead of twisting remaks to make his own opinion seem more valuable than others.

But, for once he gets a good post in. And yes Watson should not or ever have been on any committee. Cal did that and it was Cal being foolish. Yes, Easterby is involved with this one too. It will come down to Watson vs Easterby or Cal... maybe both. In that situation, Watson will lose. Then what happens when he loses?
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
This guy must have been great at twister growing up. Because I have posted an option based on at the moment some very good facts. Then, I was man enough to post I was wrong about it.

Meanwhile, @Earl34 can't accept the fact Watson was talking about our new GM in his tweet. Or say he was wrong about non stop posts of that wasn't what he was talking about. Instead of twisting remaks to make his own opinion seem more valuable than others.

But, for once he gets a good post in. And yes Watson should not or ever have been on any committee. Cal did that and it was Cal being foolish. Yes, Easterby is involved with this one too. It will come down to Watson vs Easterby or Cal... maybe both. In that situation, Watson will lose. Then what happens when he loses?
WTH are you talking about bro?
 

Lucky

Not like this. Not like this.
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  • Matt Bazirgan, Texans player personnel director: Interviewed
  • Malik Boyd, Bills pro scouting director: Interviewed
  • Nick Caserio, Patriots VP of player personnel: Hired
  • Scott Cohen, Ravens football research director: Interview requested
  • Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration: Interviewed
  • Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel: Interviewed
  • Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst/former Eagles exec: Interviewed
You look at that list, and you have to take Caserio. So Dorsey was never scheduled for an interview? That's the other guy that was available that really should have been talked to.
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
perhaps it’s true, but it flies in the face of the OTHER rumor about no one wanting the job unless Easterby was gone. Clearly if they were supposedly in contract negotiations with Khan, he was prepared to take the job.......with Easterby still on board. So Easterby would have no reason to “fear” for his job. So....which is it, either the job is too toxic for anyone to want b/c of Easterby or candidates aren’t as concerned about him as apparently the local and national media are. I mean think about it, we just hired 1 of the best GM candidates available and the storyline is...........Jack Easterby.

The narrative is all over the place & the media is fluffing the **** out of it. I expect that when DW4 comes back from vacation, and he and Caserio talk, this will all blow over.
Is it possible that this is all been created, driven, and manipulated by the media?

Houston sports has always been the red headed step child. (No offense to step children or gingers.)

I think the NFL and national media would rather see Watson “take his talents to South Beach” than stay here. They saw an opportunity to create controversy and have taken the opportunity to keep throwing gas on the fire with no sources whatsoever.
 

wildroot

Waterboy
My whole thing about Bienemy is why is he even taking interviews if he knows that he is unlikely to be hired b/c he’s probably not gonna be available?

All these teams have interviewed him and if he’s just this great candidate, why are none of these teams seemingly willing to wait for him?
Exactly, there's no hurry in interviewing EB because he can't sign with anyone until his season is over.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Is it possible that this is all been created, driven, and manipulated by the media?

Houston sports has always been the red headed step child. (No offense to step children or gingers.)

I think the NFL and national media would rather see Watson “take his talents to South Beach” than stay here. They saw an opportunity to create controversy and have taken the opportunity to keep throwing gas on the fire with no sources whatsoever.
Of course. I believe 70-80% of it is media driven for a number of reasons. But until DW4 and/or Caserio or both come out and put this **** to bed, we’ll have to endure the Florio’s of the world putting out every rumor and scenario to try to get at Easterby.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
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It is the guys that were interviewed or scheduled to be interviewed before Casero was hired.

Houston Texans
  • Matt Bazirgan, Texans player personnel director: Interviewed
  • Malik Boyd, Bills pro scouting director: Interviewed
  • Nick Caserio, Patriots VP of player personnel: Hired
  • Scott Cohen, Ravens football research director: Interview requested
  • Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration: Interviewed
  • Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel: Interviewed
  • Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst/former Eagles exec: Interviewed


Also. some of the reports are acting like the organization cares about $600,000 over getting the guy they actually want. In NFL terms, that amount is the current minimum salary...other words player 53 on the roster.
So all the talk about Caserio not being on the list was just BS
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
So no one has seen the actual list?
To my knowledge, Not anyone outside the Texans FO. The premise about Korn Ferry’s list comes from people in the media saying Caserio wasn’t in their top 10 of interviewees.
 
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Mr teX

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Yeah, which doesn't make a lot of sense
It just further gives credence to the idea that the leak is from someone high up or very close to someone like Jamey Rootes. I mean how else would anyone outside of the search team know who was on the list much less where Caserio may or may not have been on it?
 

ArlingtonTexan

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So no one has seen the actual list?
Since we have to keep posting Florio for Houston information

Second, Easterby really wins. As reported by Mike Garafolo of NFL Media, the Korn Ferry search firm identified five candidates for the job: Texans director of player personnel Matt Bazirgan, Seahawks V.P. of player personnel Trent Kirchner, Steelers V.P. of football and business administration Omar Khan, Louis Riddick, and Ravens director of football research Scott Cohen. Korn Ferry did not include Caserio on its list of finalists.
 

thunderkyss

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Since we have to keep posting Florio for Houston information



I can’t believe Korn Ferry identified Bazirgan. That looks like an error on the national media’s part.

A little reality (we did interview him), but not because he was on Korn Ferry’s list.
 

ArlingtonTexan

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I can’t believe Korn Ferry identified Bazirgan. That looks like an error on the national media’s part.

A little reality (we did interview him), but not because he was on Korn Ferry’s list.
This is one of the pieces that make the rumors sound like BS, but

Let's say Bazirgan WAS identified by Korn Ferry. The Texans (as pointed out by other posters) should have been giving Bazirgan the 3-month trial as temp GM or the Texans were like "really we work with and didn't see what the Korn Ferry saw?" and only gave the interview because that firm said so.

End of the day, all these guys were interviewing against Casero no matter if Easterby was helping Cal's memory of that or not.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
I can’t believe Korn Ferry identified Bazirgan. That looks like an error on the national media’s part.

A little reality (we did interview him), but not because he was on Korn Ferry’s list.
Which is yet something else that is wrong with all this mess. Folks crying about the search being a sham and wanting Easterby out for the sake of a “full house cleaning”...well does anyone think fans would’ve been happy with the internal hire of Bazirgan? No matter how far he was removed from it all, he has been part of this mess too. Also I’m paying you hundreds of thousands of dollars for you to come & tell me to look at a guy for the GM position that already works for me & I didn’t see it in him? Lol
 

SnakeEyes

Rookie
The main target was Nick. They tried last year and his contact and tampering charges stopped him. Now in the off-season, Nick redid his contact so it stated that he can leave anytime. Kinda odd if you think about it. Sure seems like Nick was interested but until he was able to get the new contract he couldn't leave. The FO probably had 2-3 backup GM candidates, but Nick was interested and they set up shop for him. Easterby is involved to a point, only as a tie to NE. As we have no idea what Nick thinks about Easterby. Only Hoodie and some players in NE have been quoted about it.
 

H_Town_Gaucho

Waterboy
So Caserio was going to the Jaguars and was going to take Easterby. Easterby went to Cal and convinced him that he would stay in Houston if he hired Caserio. Is that what happened? Read that somewhere.
 
So Caserio was going to the Jaguars and was going to take Easterby. Easterby went to Cal and convinced him that he would stay in Houston if he hired Caserio. Is that what happened? Read that somewhere.
Not even close, I have never read anything creditable that Caserio was considering any team except Miami years back, who he turned down because they wouldn’t let him fire the HC, and the Texans who he has lots of personal connections with and who have been after him since before Bob died.

This Easterby convinced him line makes no sense seeing as Texans wanted Caserio before Easterby was ever hired. I would more believe BoB McNair and Cal identified Caserio years ago and that was who Bob wanted and Cal is getting the guy his late father wanted. Lucky for us he does seem to be qualified for the job.
 

Earl34

All Pro
So Caserio was going to the Jaguars and was going to take Easterby. Easterby went to Cal and convinced him that he would stay in Houston if he hired Caserio. Is that what happened? Read that somewhere.
I thought the "report" was Caserio was going to the Panthers. Whether it's the Panthers or Jags, if this scenario is true, knowing the controversy swirling around Easterby, why would Caserio take this job?
 

thunderkyss

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I thought the "report" was Caserio was going to the Panthers. Whether it's the Panthers or Jags, if this scenario is true, knowing the controversy swirling around Easterby, why would Caserio take this job?
Yes, the report was Caserio was set to take the job in Carolina & take Easterby with him. Cal couldn’t live without Easterby so he made Caserio an offer he couldn’t refuse.
 

Double Barrel

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I for one hope trading Watson is the nuclear option. I just hate the thought of moving a sure thing very good young QB especially after so many years of QBswe’ve suffered through. Then again teams have won titles with good QBs and great teams built around them
Yep, I agree. I just don't think I can muster up much "give a ****" if this franchise has to start sorting through the riff/raff of QBs to even find a somewhat competent one. Especially while watching Watson tear it up with another team.

Good franchises figure this crap out without harming themselves. I've reached a point of realizing there is not much good - at all - with the Texans front office/ownership.

Of course he did, this is just an uncomfortable reality some dont want to face.

Time to purge this org totally and start over anew.
Feeling like it's almost time to purge this city and start over anew.

It won't be much longer before the McNairs start groveling for more public money after the stadium is two decades old.

I wonder what Easterby could’ve done to piss off the status quo up on Kirby.

Dude hasn’t said 1 word this entire time....in fact he doesn’t even attend press conferences that I’ve seen. That doesn’t strike me as someone trying to accumulate power; those types of folks crave the spotlight. He only strikes me as a tattletale. something tells me that a lot of what folks are after him about has to do with Brian Gaine and Palcic b/c that’s when all this crap about him started, albeit it hadn’t come to a fever pitch like it has now.

what are the chances that Easterby “uncovered” some real controversial **** in the FO of the Texans and he told Cal?
The Easterby paradox intrigues me. I have no other information beyond what we all know, but a few things about him makes me very skeptical and sets of my con-man spidey senses (a learned instinct after getting shafted by people in business for decades):

He's a "high character" person that lies on his resume.

He's just a "character coach" that hires an agent that represents front office executives (mainly head coaches and GMs). I've read that he's the only character coach in the NFL with an agent.

His constant message of "culture", which primarily revolves around morality issues and not a culture of winning/competitiveness/meritrocracy/etc (which is the norm for most other pro sports teams). Why such a demand of morality culture? I can only assume that it is important to image, a key factor in marketing.

I don't understand why a national media has created so much smoke if there's not at least a little fire there. I don't buy the "liberal conspiracy theories". They lack logic and reason and motive.

Based on the above, I would never hire such a person as a business owner. Too many red flags.

This is just general conversation stuff, nothing worth arguing about even in disagreement. None of us know the truth.

It's a curious situation. :popcorn:

Is it possible that this is all been created, driven, and manipulated by the media?

Houston sports has always been the red headed step child. (No offense to step children or gingers.)

I think the NFL and national media would rather see Watson “take his talents to South Beach” than stay here. They saw an opportunity to create controversy and have taken the opportunity to keep throwing gas on the fire with no sources whatsoever.
I would not doubt that the media is fanning a lot of this stuff. The national media has never really cared much about Houston for whatever reason(s), and this story just keeps on giving since there seems to be nobody with any real sense of insight coming out to set the record straight.

Cal and Nick did nothing to slow the roll at their press conferences and interviews. They were very ambiguous and shifty in their replies about the Easterby situation.

Probably b/c he knows Easterby isn’t nearly the threat media types and others think he is.
He's probably not a direct threat to Caserio. Other potential GM candidates probably read the SI and PFT stuff and it causes some concern about possible power struggles, especially knowing what has already happened on Kirby Drive in the past.

Personally, I hope Caserio sits Easterby's butt down and forces him back into the role he had with NE. That would tell Nick if Easterby is power hungry or not. Jack is not qualified for the positions of power that the media has been reporting about him. I'm not sure who or what to believe at this point. So I'll just be a passenger and wait for the destination.
 

Mr. White

H-Town Beatdown
This is one of the pieces that make the rumors sound like BS, but

Let's say Bazirgan WAS identified by Korn Ferry. The Texans (as pointed out by other posters) should have been giving Bazirgan the 3-month trial as temp GM or the Texans were like "really we work with and didn't see what the Korn Ferry saw?" and only gave the interview because that firm said so.

End of the day, all these guys were interviewing against Casero no matter if Easterby was helping Cal's memory of that or not.
Rasputin Easterby.jpg
 

OptimisticTexan

2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Instead of being pissed b/c he wasn't part of the actual hiring process of Nick Caserio.....Watson needs to take a step back and look at who the organization just landed as the new GM.

Nick Caserio has been with the Patriots organization for 20 years and was there for all of the Patriots success starting in 2001; 17 Division Titles, 9 AFC Championships, and 6 Super Bowl rings. He's actually had more say in the Patriots success than some of us originally thought.

Watson wasn't going to get a better GM from the current pool available for interview. Now, with the current news that Pederson was kicked to the curb by the Eagles.....I could see a union of Caserio, Pederson, and his staff as being one big jump in the right direction. I just don't think the Texans could do better in regards to leadership with this group.
 
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Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Instead of being pissed b/c he wasn't part of the actual hiring process of Nick Caserio.....Watson needs to take a step back and look at who the organization just landed as the new GM.

Nick Caserio has been with the Patriots organization for 20 years and was there for all of the Patriots success starting in 2001; 17 Division Titles, 9 AFC Championships, and 6 Super Bowl rings. He's actually more say in building some of those teams than most of us originally thought.

Watson wasn't going to get a better GM from the current pool available for interview. Now, with the current news that Pederson was kicked to the curb by the Eagles.....I could see a union of Caserio, Pederson, and his staff as being one big jump in the right direction. I just don't think the Texans could do better in regards to leadership with this group.
But, but, but Easterby! ..that’s all anyone wants to talk about.
 

theCATALYST

Football Messiah
Instead of being pissed b/c he wasn't part of the actual hiring process of Nick Caserio.....Watson needs to take a step back and look at who the organization just landed as the new GM.

Nick Caserio has been with the Patriots organization for 20 years and was there for all of the Patriots success starting in 2001; 17 Division Titles, 9 AFC Championships, and 6 Super Bowl rings. He's actually more say in building some of those teams than most of us originally thought.

Watson wasn't going to get a better GM from the current pool available for interview. Now, with the current news that Pederson was kicked to the curb by the Eagles.....I could see a union of Caserio, Pederson, and his staff as being one big jump in the right direction. I just don't think the Texans could do better in regards to leadership with this group.
I am in full agreement with this.
If Watsons feelings are hurt.....winning a few playoff games, attending a few championships and getting a chance at a SuperBowl will go a long way to healing those hurts.

Caserio/Pederson/Watson seems like the perfect match......which makes me feel somehow the Texans will Texans it all up and go with Caldwell.
 


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