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Sweech said:
I felt like Reich lost his job because he's a coach who isn't that great and runs a scheme from the 2000s and 2010s. He's just not a good modern coach. I know the S2 got a lot of traction but there were plenty of teams and draft analysts who didn't even care about the S2 and still put Bryce ahead.

I'm still also not fully convinced Bryce is actually a bust. Way too short a time to know yet for sure.
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I’m sure that played into as well..but I could easily see Reich having a 1 on 1 with Tepper and Reich explaining to him “look, he’s a great kid, but for what I want to do, he’s not a fit and I’m starting to lose the locker room by continuing to trot this kid out here…”. and Tepper being the know-it-all, freshly minted new owner used to getting his way showing Reich the door.

All I’m saying is Young was more than likely forced on Reich. And based on how the Panthers played with Dalton, I’ve got no problem believing that that team could’ve performed better with better qb play last year. There just comes a point when other guys on the team start looking out for themselves when they know they don’t have a realistic chance to win. You saw it with the Jets and Zach Wilson last year and you saw it with the Panthers and Bryce Young after like week 12 last year once Reich was let go and after the 1st game this year under Canales. They’d all but quit after seeing Bryce out there floundering; they know he’s not it.
 
steelbtexan said:
The Panthers looked a little bit different today with a legitimate QB behind center.
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That's why I don't like to see a rookie QB with a first time OC. A rookie QB trying to learn the system is going to make everybody look bad... I know Bryce is not a rookie. But it's the same thing.

Andy Dalton can better understand what the coach intends to say in a given situation & not make "everyone" look so bad.
 
steelbtexan said:
Nobody thought he was a good HC until the QB change.
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Mr teX said:
I’m sure that played into as well..but I could easily see Reich having a 1 on 1 with Tepper and Reich explaining to him “look, he’s a great kid, but for what I want to do, he’s not a fit and I’m starting to lose the locker room by continuing to trot this kid out here…”. and Tepper being the know-it-all, freshly minted new owner used to getting his way showing Reich the door.

All I’m saying is Young was more than likely forced on Reich. And based on how the Panthers played with Dalton, I’ve got no problem believing that that team could’ve performed better with better qb play last year. There just comes a point when other guys on the team start looking out for themselves when they know they don’t have a realistic chance to win. You saw it with the Jets and Zach Wilson last year and you saw it with the Panthers and Bryce Young after like week 12 last year once Reich was let go and after the 1st game this year under Canales. They’d all but quit after seeing Bryce out there floundering; they know he’s not it.
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My thing is we've seen Reich's offense not play well. It's a very 2010s NFL offense - lots of static routes, comebacks, curls, etc. that simply don't work all that well in the NFL anymore as defenses have adapted and most coaches who like that gameplan have filtered out of the league by now. We also watched that type of offense fail here in Houston too. In fact Mike McCarthy is the only coach I can think of right now whose playbook still uses a lot of those concepts.

We've seen Reich fail and then get a new job and fail much in the same way. Whereas we watched Canales have success, have success, and now start possibly having success. I'm not even saying Canales is the guy I'm more saying I know for a fact Reich isn't the guy. If Reich was the head coach of the Vikings do you think they beat us yesterday? I don't. That game would have likely ended 7-6 for us.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's why I don't like to see a rookie QB with a first time OC. A rookie QB trying to learn the system is going to make everybody look bad... I know Bryce is not a rookie. But it's the same thing.

Andy Dalton can better understand what the coach intends to say in a given situation & not make "everyone" look so bad.
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Or maybe Young just isn't a very good NFL QB. Alabama had the talent to bully most of the NCAA at every level, on O, D, and STs. The Texans had the ORY with a rookie play caller in 2023. Yes, that's an outlier, but it is still a fact. How many great NFL QBs have come out of Alabama? It's almost as bad as Ohio State QBs. Starr, Namath ( WAY OVERRATED IMO), Stabler. Starr is the only one I think should be in the NFL HOF. Namath is in because of beating the Colts, without Starr, and Stabler is in due to sentimental BS. It's actually become the Hall of the Very Good.
 
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